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"Just heard a radio ad encouraging..well, you and me basically to phone a hotline if we suspect others of terrorist activities..the natural distrust of the state we all share leaps forward, screams Big Brother alert WARNING! WARNING!...but another voice in me head wonders..aren't we all charged with the responsibility of looking after our society, our home?" We are but the saying "The responsiblity of everyone is the responsiblity of no one" springs to mind. I would be interested to know if they gave any "criteria" for identifying possible "terrorists". Methinks they will not be obvious. "Incitement to hatred" would be easier to identify. | |||
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"With the blink of an eye I would shop nonce cases, muggers, burglars and drug dealers..and terrorists. Im just waiting for the civil rights dogooder brigade to get on the case and say its victimising certain 'types'" That is the thing. Logically any "serious" terrorist is not going to show signs of being a terrorist are they? | |||
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"I wouldn't think twice I'd shop the cunts straight away no bother and if they wanted a hang man for em I'd do it fa free " +1 apart from the use of the c word | |||
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"Just heard a radio ad encouraging..well, you and me basically to phone a hotline if we suspect others of terrorist activities..the natural distrust of the state we all share leaps forward, screams Big Brother alert WARNING! WARNING!...but another voice in me head wonders..aren't we all charged with the responsibility of looking after our society, our home?" Yes i would have to although i would make sure i was sure at what i was accusing someone of doing. | |||
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"I wouldn't think twice I'd shop the cunts straight away no bother and if they wanted a hang man for em I'd do it fa free +1 apart from the use of the c word " Sowey it's a rather emotive subject for me for personal reasons xx | |||
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" welsh" ???..'kay just managed to stop laughing me nut off, to ask why...bad meet in Cardiff or summink?! | |||
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"I wouldn't think twice I'd shop the cunts straight away no bother and if they wanted a hang man for em I'd do it fa free " +1 | |||
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"terrorists, benefit cheats, the welsh, i would shop em all. lol" +1 apart from the welsh | |||
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"terrorists, benefit cheats, the welsh, i would shop em all. lol" love the Welsh, tho I'd prefer the multimillionaire tax dodgers to get done any day, over the less than 1% benefit fraud that most benefits have: it's a drop in the ocean, compared to the £billions cheated by tax dodgers. Our NHS, for example, would be in need of no cutbacks if tax was paid. As for shopping terrorists: I'd shop potential murderers, of any type. | |||
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"terrorists, benefit cheats, the welsh, i would shop em all. lol love the Welsh, tho I'd prefer the multimillionaire tax dodgers to get done any day, over the less than 1% benefit fraud that most benefits have: it's a drop in the ocean, compared to the £billions cheated by tax dodgers. Our NHS, for example, would be in need of no cutbacks if tax was paid. As for shopping terrorists: I'd shop potential murderers, of any type. " they can be very scary in charge of a trolley. | |||
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" welsh ???..'kay just managed to stop laughing me nut off, to ask why...bad meet in Cardiff or summink?!" well was gonna say the Dutch (ala micheal kane in goldmember) but remembered im part dutch so it wouldnt work lol. only thing i have about the welsh is bad childhood holidays in Rhyl lol | |||
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" welsh ???..'kay just managed to stop laughing me nut off, to ask why...bad meet in Cardiff or summink?! well was gonna say the Dutch (ala micheal kane in goldmember) but remembered im part dutch so it wouldnt work lol. only thing i have about the welsh is bad childhood holidays in Rhyl lol" Awww, put that down to bad parenting surely. | |||
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" welsh ???..'kay just managed to stop laughing me nut off, to ask why...bad meet in Cardiff or summink?! well was gonna say the Dutch (ala micheal kane in goldmember) but remembered im part dutch so it wouldnt work lol. only thing i have about the welsh is bad childhood holidays in Rhyl lol Awww, put that down to bad parenting surely." i dunno. they did their best. suppose a holiday is a holiday, but still....Rhyl... its just gotten worse over the years lol | |||
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" welsh ???..'kay just managed to stop laughing me nut off, to ask why...bad meet in Cardiff or summink?! well was gonna say the Dutch (ala micheal kane in goldmember) but remembered im part dutch so it wouldnt work lol. only thing i have about the welsh is bad childhood holidays in Rhyl lol Awww, put that down to bad parenting surely. i dunno. they did their best. suppose a holiday is a holiday, but still....Rhyl... its just gotten worse over the years lol" phew and so bliddy windy! | |||
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"Just heard a radio ad encouraging..well, you and me basically to phone a hotline if we suspect others of terrorist activities.." Wouldnt think twice. I can see the arguments for not shopping people for minor things… but possible terrorism that could kill thousands and change the way this country runs? No brainer. Steve | |||
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"It is more suspicious or what you believe is suspicious activity that you would be reporting. Where you have a inkling something is not right or why a certain person is doing something. Better to be safe than sorry." That'll sound really convincing when you phone in! | |||
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"Ok,,,a twist.. Would you shop someone you saw nicking some food in a supermarket if you knew them and knew them to be genuine, on the breadline and hungry I wouldnt... And, although I have never stolen anything, I would have absolutely no qualms about stealing food to eat or coal/wood to keep warm if my family had nothing to eat or no means to keep warm.." Short answer?? yes And i would expect and require my child to shop ME if i broke the law as well and im serious on that | |||
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"Ok,,,a twist.. Would you shop someone you saw nicking some food in a supermarket if you knew them and knew them to be genuine, on the breadline and hungry I wouldnt... And, although I have never stolen anything, I would have absolutely no qualms about stealing food to eat or coal/wood to keep warm if my family had nothing to eat or no means to keep warm.. Short answer?? yes And i would expect and require my child to shop ME if i broke the law as well and im serious on that" I've seen the 'Railway Children' would you really have locked Peter up for trying to keep his mother warm whilst his father was in prison having being wrongfully convicted of treason!? | |||
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"It is more suspicious or what you believe is suspicious activity that you would be reporting. Where you have a inkling something is not right or why a certain person is doing something. Better to be safe than sorry. That'll sound really convincing when you phone in! " That is the whole point of it, you are not going to get someone going around saying "I am a terrorist", they want people to ring in with what we may think is mundane, however it could be part of the bigger picture. Your next door neighbour who moved in three months ago and is always smelling of marzipan, does not always mean he likes to decorate cakes. He may well do, but then certain explosives smell of marzipan. Better safe then sorry | |||
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"With the blink of an eye I would shop nonce cases, muggers, burglars and drug dealers..and terrorists. Im just waiting for the civil rights dogooder brigade to get on the case and say its victimising certain 'types' That is the thing. Logically any "serious" terrorist is not going to show signs of being a terrorist are they?" You be surprised what people give away by their actions etc. the gov web site has load of things to look out for. Personally I think it is everyone's respond ability to shout out if they think something is wrong. How would you feel if you did not say and then kids were killed. Remember bombs kill no matter age, sex, belief or religion. | |||
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"It's the criteria that's worrying though. Amongst the "clues" the Government highlight are to watch out for people who keep their curtains closed, don't talk to neighbors, use local shops & always pay with cash. " That's everyone in my road | |||
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"I wouldn't think twice I'd shop the cunts straight away no bother and if they wanted a hang man for em I'd do it fa free " | |||
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"LOL, I love how many keyboard warriors there are in this thread. Look guys, retaliation is a logical step for a criminal. Criminals work in gangs for this reason, so that if one of their members is incapacitated, then the others continue the business. If you shop a member of a gang, they work on a Old Testament style of justice, an eye for an eye. Getting murdered or assaulted if you shop a gang member is a very real prospect and not one to be taken lightly simply because you'd *like* to shop them. I'm willing to bet good money, that 90% of the people in this thread, would back now in a real life situation. You either have to be a person of astounding moral integrity or else pig-ignorant to interfere with a criminal gang. I think when most of you are thinking of 'criminality', you're thinking of groups of chavs wandering around being odious like they always are. The reality is very different. Chavs are the bottom feeders, they have absolutely no money or power. You can shop them as much as you like. But they are not real criminals, they are almost always at the margins of true criminality because they are basically too stupid to be hired by organized criminal gangs, amateurs! " I know someone from streatham who shopped a middle sized drug dealer. he's only got eight fingers now | |||
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"I wouldn't think twice I'd shop the cunts straight away no bother and if they wanted a hang man for em I'd do it fa free " +1 | |||
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"With the blink of an eye I would shop nonce cases, muggers, burglars and drug dealers..and terrorists. Im just waiting for the civil rights dogooder brigade to get on the case and say its victimising certain 'types'" Yes. The suicidal mass-murdering types. Bless 'em. | |||
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"If someone is breaking the law then i don't see any problem in reporting them. I see more of a problem with people who don't do so." But would you grass a group of doggers?...or, if you were at a party and the Charlie came out would you walk out and ring crimestoppers?..would any of you?..especially the doggers on here who have said they would grass anyone.. Its all about this 'casting the first stone' business... (Not picking on you personally KPLP btw xx) | |||
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"It is more suspicious or what you believe is suspicious activity that you would be reporting. Where you have a inkling something is not right or why a certain person is doing something. Better to be safe than sorry. That'll sound really convincing when you phone in! " I have friends who have worked in this business. They are not going to raid a house after one phonecall. It's a jigsaw piece, not the full picture. But if the pieces start coming together, they may turn into a picture | |||
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"If someone is breaking the law then i don't see any problem in reporting them. I see more of a problem with people who don't do so." | |||
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"It is more suspicious or what you believe is suspicious activity that you would be reporting. Where you have a inkling something is not right or why a certain person is doing something. Better to be safe than sorry. That'll sound really convincing when you phone in! I have friends who have worked in this business. They are not going to raid a house after one phonecall. It's a jigsaw piece, not the full picture. But if the pieces start coming together, they may turn into a picture" | |||
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