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"Australia is in it too "I was just about to say that  | |||
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"It's oil isn't it. Is it oil ? Coffee ? Drug cartels ??? Dunno .... It's warm there though." In cahoots with the US over something. | |||
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"Australia is in it too "I don't think Eurovision is the issue It has, however, provided a platform for OP to get his thoughts in script | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!!" Didn't Israel win a few years ago? | |||
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"Is it called Euro vision because the EU has a vision of taking over the world?" That plan is mostly to expand jean claude junckers wine celler tho... | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago?" They won 4 times. Your probably thinking of the one with the beard. Personally my favourite was the song polish milk maid. It's pure filth  | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago? They won 4 times. Your probably thinking of the one with the beard. Personally my favourite was the song polish milk maid. It's pure filth " | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago? They won 4 times. Your probably thinking of the one with the beard. Personally my favourite was the song polish milk maid. It's pure filth "The beardy one was Austrian The Israeli one was Dana International I'm thinking early 2000's? | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago? They won 4 times. Your probably thinking of the one with the beard. Personally my favourite was the song polish milk maid. It's pure filth
The beardy one was Austrian
The Israeli one was Dana International
I'm thinking early 2000's?"Yes your right she was Austrian. I got confused because the Israel winner did that chicken dance. The polish milkmaid had massive tits and was churning butter like it was a lubed up cock. Honestly it's filth. I urge you to see. | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago? They won 4 times. Your probably thinking of the one with the beard. Personally my favourite was the song polish milk maid. It's pure filth
The beardy one was Austrian
The Israeli one was Dana International
I'm thinking early 2000's?"Conchita Wurst And Dana won in 1998 In Bhm | |||
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"Obviously they won last year as well ..." Why obviously? | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago? They won 4 times. Your probably thinking of the one with the beard. Personally my favourite was the song polish milk maid. It's pure filth
The beardy one was Austrian
The Israeli one was Dana International
I'm thinking early 2000's?
Yes your right she was Austrian. I got confused because the Israel winner did that chicken dance.
The polish milkmaid had massive tits and was churning butter like it was a lubed up cock. Honestly it's filth. I urge you to see."Cleo&donatan my Slowianie - polish one | |||
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"Obviously they won last year as well ... Why obviously?" Nation who wins host the next contest | |||
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"Obviously they won last year as well ... Why obviously? Nation who wins host the next contest" Ah right. I never watch it unless there something to perv over. | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago? They won 4 times. Your probably thinking of the one with the beard. Personally my favourite was the song polish milk maid. It's pure filth
The beardy one was Austrian
The Israeli one was Dana International
I'm thinking early 2000's?
Yes your right she was Austrian. I got confused because the Israel winner did that chicken dance.
The polish milkmaid had massive tits and was churning butter like it was a lubed up cock. Honestly it's filth. I urge you to see."Can you post a you tube link lol | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago? They won 4 times. Your probably thinking of the one with the beard. Personally my favourite was the song polish milk maid. It's pure filth
The beardy one was Austrian
The Israeli one was Dana International
I'm thinking early 2000's?
Yes your right she was Austrian. I got confused because the Israel winner did that chicken dance.
The polish milkmaid had massive tits and was churning butter like it was a lubed up cock. Honestly it's filth. I urge you to see.
Can you post a you tube link lol"This is the link to the best bits https://youtu.be/Iqu6qCnssUE | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago? They won 4 times. Your probably thinking of the one with the beard. Personally my favourite was the song polish milk maid. It's pure filth
The beardy one was Austrian
The Israeli one was Dana International
I'm thinking early 2000's?
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And Dana won in 1998 In Bhm"Not the only ones to appear in drag Anyone remember the 2002 Slovenian entry? https://youtu.be/pr9Pr3GRBA4 | |||
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"I don't know about the politics of it all (lost my way half way through your post op) but I am going to a Eurovision party tonight "Really?? That's a thing ?? | |||
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"I'm quite lost, you connecting Jews (faith), with Izrael(nation), that's two different things. Its like saying Arab thinking of iranian" Yes the two completely separate e.g a faith and a violent evil war mongering genocidal country, I have lots of nice Jewish friends who are disgusted with Israel and its behavior. Like some abused people sometimes turn abuser this has sadly happened with Israel. | |||
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"I don't know about the politics of it all (lost my way half way through your post op) but I am going to a Eurovision party tonight Really?? That's a thing ??"It's not really my thing but a very good friend is hosting one so I'm in. | |||
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"I don't know about the politics of it all (lost my way half way through your post op) but I am going to a Eurovision party tonight "I can have a guess at the scores for you right now. England, nil points. | |||
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"Should this not belong in the "Politics" forum. I know this one's for general chat but it's a bit heavy for a swinging site. " Don't worry this will take the edge off it https://youtu.be/Iqu6qCnssUE | |||
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"I don't know about the politics of it all (lost my way half way through your post op) but I am going to a Eurovision party tonight
I can have a guess at the scores for you right now. England, nil points."Don't want to be funny but since Katrina and the Waves, GB entries were kind of poor | |||
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"Should this not belong in the "Politics" forum. I know this one's for general chat but it's a bit heavy for a swinging site. Don't worry this will take the edge off it https://youtu.be/Iqu6qCnssUE" Hmmmm maybe the party won't be that bad after all | |||
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"I don't know about the politics of it all (lost my way half way through your post op) but I am going to a Eurovision party tonight
I can have a guess at the scores for you right now. England, nil points."England? Is it not just England when it's a good thing and Britain when it's crap?  | |||
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"I don't know about the politics of it all (lost my way half way through your post op) but I am going to a Eurovision party tonight
I can have a guess at the scores for you right now. England, nil points.
Don't want to be funny but since Katrina and the Waves, GB entries were kind of poor "I don't think the UK wants to even be in it anymore. It's so moribund. The voting is purely political anyway and you always know the same counties vote for each other, regardless of how bad or good the songs are. | |||
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"Should this not belong in the "Politics" forum. I know this one's for general chat but it's a bit heavy for a swinging site. Don't worry this will take the edge off it https://youtu.be/Iqu6qCnssUE Hmmmm maybe the party won't be that bad after all "Can you dress like a milk maid?  | |||
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"I don't know about the politics of it all (lost my way half way through your post op) but I am going to a Eurovision party tonight
I can have a guess at the scores for you right now. England, nil points.
England? Is it not just England when it's a good thing and Britain when it's crap? "It's like Andy Murray, British when on top, Scottish when loosing | |||
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"I'm quite lost, you connecting Jews (faith), with Izrael(nation), that's two different things. Its like saying Arab thinking of iranian Yes the two completely separate e.g a faith and a violent evil war mongering genocidal country, I have lots of nice Jewish friends who are disgusted with Israel and its behavior. Like some abused people sometimes turn abuser this has sadly happened with Israel. " Yes, i hear what you're saying and i understand your point of view. I would like to make clear that the op was a criticism of Israel, not of the Jewish people as a whole. Conversely, i have met many Jews, unfortunatley the vast majority think that Israel's actions are completely justified. How anyone can jump to the conclusion that a criticism of Israel automatically makes one anti-Semitic is beyond me, to suggest so sounds to me as though Israeli propaganda is working, as i said ' woe betide anyone that dares to criticise them'. If anyone was to criticise Australia, for example, for it's treatment of the Aborigines would that automatically make them anti-Christian? That's quite a leap. The reason for this post was not that Israel is included in the competition, that's by the by, but the actions of the organisers to quash any form of protest making the actions of the Israeli nation seem of little consequence. | |||
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"Do we have to boycott Madonna as well? We dont have to. However....... "She will just embarrass herself again by falling off the stage. Especially if she wears that eye patch. | |||
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"I'm quite lost, you connecting Jews (faith), with Izrael(nation), that's two different things. Its like saying Arab thinking of iranian Yes the two completely separate e.g a faith and a violent evil war mongering genocidal country, I have lots of nice Jewish friends who are disgusted with Israel and its behavior. Like some abused people sometimes turn abuser this has sadly happened with Israel. Yes, i hear what you're saying and i understand your point of view. I would like to make clear that the op was a criticism of Israel, not of the Jewish people as a whole. Conversely, i have met many Jews, unfortunatley the vast majority think that Israel's actions are completely justified. How anyone can jump to the conclusion that a criticism of Israel automatically makes one anti-Semitic is beyond me, to suggest so sounds to me as though Israeli propaganda is working, as i said ' woe betide anyone that dares to criticise them'. If anyone was to criticise Australia, for example, for it's treatment of the Aborigines would that automatically make them anti-Christian? That's quite a leap. The reason for this post was not that Israel is included in the competition, that's by the by, but the actions of the organisers to quash any form of protest making the actions of the Israeli nation seem of little consequence. " To be honest all Jews I know don't want to have noting to do with Israel as country, and condemned actions of Israel towards Palestinians. As a country with nuclear capability it no longer have nothing to do with faith as such. Its a country and it should be consider as such regardless of dominating faith | |||
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"Should this not belong in the "Politics" forum. I know this one's for general chat but it's a bit heavy for a swinging site. Don't worry this will take the edge off it https://youtu.be/Iqu6qCnssUE Hmmmm maybe the party won't be that bad after all
Can you dress like a milk maid? "Maybe, but I can definitely milk it | |||
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"Should this not belong in the "Politics" forum. I know this one's for general chat but it's a bit heavy for a swinging site. Don't worry this will take the edge off it https://youtu.be/Iqu6qCnssUE Hmmmm maybe the party won't be that bad after all
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"The state of Israel and its leaders are the issue, not the Jewish faith. We also seem to forget about the actions of Saudi Arabia against The Yemenese people " Of course, every nation has committed similar atrocities against indiginous peoples at some point in it's history; the Conquistadors in South America, the pioneers in North America, the British in India, Stalin is responsible for the death of approximately 20 million of his own people. I'm not suggesting that what happened to the Jews under Nazi Germany wasn't appallingly tragic yet the holocaust pales besides these genocides. The difference is is that Israel continues to capitalise on it as justification to commit atrocities of their own. | |||
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"The state of Israel and its leaders are the issue, not the Jewish faith. We also seem to forget about the actions of Saudi Arabia against The Yemenese people Of course, every nation has committed similar atrocities against indiginous peoples at some point in it's history; the Conquistadors in South America, the pioneers in North America, the British in India, Stalin is responsible for the death of approximately 20 million of his own people. I'm not suggesting that what happened to the Jews under Nazi Germany wasn't appallingly tragic yet the holocaust pales besides these genocides. The difference is is that Israel continues to capitalise on it as justification to commit atrocities of their own." "Of course, every nation has committed similar atrocities" Too true. Lest we forget Jemini who were the UK entry in 2003 scoring "nul points" and finishing in last place. | |||
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"The state of Israel and its leaders are the issue, not the Jewish faith. We also seem to forget about the actions of Saudi Arabia against The Yemenese people " But it's ok because Saudi Arabia give us lots of money in return for weapons, so much so that we threw in a free extra large camouflage net. Saudi Arabia drape it over any country they wish to commit atrocities against | |||
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" In their arrogance the claim to be 'the chosen people', so what does that make the rest of us? Untermensch? (Now where have i heard that before?)" There are plenty of Jews who reject or do not take seriously any notion of being 'chosen'. "For the record, i'm not anti- Semitic but i am most certainly anti-Israel. Free Palestine. " If this is true, you should be more careful in the way you talk. Your title to this thread is about 'Jews' not 'Israel', which reeks of anti-semitism, and as I mention above, you are generalising in the kind of way that bigots do. | |||
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"I'm quite lost, you connecting Jews (faith), with Izrael(nation), that's two different things. Its like saying Arab thinking of iranian Yes the two completely separate e.g a faith and a violent evil war mongering genocidal country, I have lots of nice Jewish friends who are disgusted with Israel and its behavior. Like some abused people sometimes turn abuser this has sadly happened with Israel. Yes, i hear what you're saying and i understand your point of view. I would like to make clear that the op was a criticism of Israel, not of the Jewish people as a whole. Conversely, i have met many Jews, unfortunatley the vast majority think that Israel's actions are completely justified. How anyone can jump to the conclusion that a criticism of Israel automatically makes one anti-Semitic is beyond me, to suggest so sounds to me as though Israeli propaganda is working, as i said ' woe betide anyone that dares to criticise them'. If anyone was to criticise Australia, for example, for it's treatment of the Aborigines would that automatically make them anti-Christian? That's quite a leap. The reason for this post was not that Israel is included in the competition, that's by the by, but the actions of the organisers to quash any form of protest making the actions of the Israeli nation seem of little consequence. " Having watched quite a few documentaries on Israel and Palestine, the two prominent religions seem at conflict with one another. None seem to be "peaceful" and not willing to live in harmony side by side. In my opinion there doesn't seem more violence on one side and both as bad as each other. Life seems to short for all this nonsense. | |||
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"I'm quite lost, you connecting Jews (faith), with Izrael(nation), that's two different things. Its like saying Arab thinking of iranian Yes the two completely separate e.g a faith and a violent evil war mongering genocidal country, I have lots of nice Jewish friends who are disgusted with Israel and its behavior. Like some abused people sometimes turn abuser this has sadly happened with Israel. Yes, i hear what you're saying and i understand your point of view. I would like to make clear that the op was a criticism of Israel, not of the Jewish people as a whole. Conversely, i have met many Jews, unfortunatley the vast majority think that Israel's actions are completely justified. How anyone can jump to the conclusion that a criticism of Israel automatically makes one anti-Semitic is beyond me, to suggest so sounds to me as though Israeli propaganda is working, as i said ' woe betide anyone that dares to criticise them'. If anyone was to criticise Australia, for example, for it's treatment of the Aborigines would that automatically make them anti-Christian? That's quite a leap. The reason for this post was not that Israel is included in the competition, that's by the by, but the actions of the organisers to quash any form of protest making the actions of the Israeli nation seem of little consequence. Having watched quite a few documentaries on Israel and Palestine, the two prominent religions seem at conflict with one another. None seem to be "peaceful" and not willing to live in harmony side by side. In my opinion there doesn't seem more violence on one side and both as bad as each other. Life seems to short for all this nonsense. " In the 1930's Palestine was the one of richest countries in the Middle East, now it's people are amongst the poorest. No wonder they're pissed off. | |||
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"Australia is in it too "As have Georgia, Jordan and Morocco in the past The biggest part of Turkey isn’t in Europe either | |||
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Are there atrocities by both sides in the conflict? Of course there are.
But are you really making references to the Eurovision contest and Israeli foreign policy?
Government policy, rarely reflects the everyday person in countries. Assuming you're British,do you think you should be thrown out of the Olympics because of atrocities in history by the UK?
The rather naff contest has no connection to politics and is a harmless event where countries pretty much laugh at each other.
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"Euro vision is ridiculous. As is the situation in Palestine and Israel. Israel is most definitely an abuser of Human Rights. No more so than we as a Nation also are.. Iraq? Afghanistan? Libya? etc. The Palestinian people have it awful though and the dream of a Jewish State has come at a terrible price. I don't see them as terrorists, I see them as Freedom Fighters. Yet nobody pays their just cause any attention, no matter what they do to raise awareness. Branded terrorists by a religion of people who as a group hold an non-proportionate amount of power in politics, and the media and finance. Abusing their power the world over, influencing elections e.g. Branding Corbyn and any other politician who is a Palestinian sympathizer. Anti-semitism exists, it's disgusting to tarnish all Jews for the behavior of Israel as a nation. Things like that happen when you commit atrocious acts in the name of a religion though. No better than blaming all Islam for the acts of a few misguided ass holes. Israel and the more right leaning, hawkish and Orthodox people need to think before they start trying to brand us all Anti-semites for questioning Foreign Policy that's based around Fundamentalism. On a side note I see a prominent Baroness is seeking to change laws around what is and isn't Islamaphobia. Christians in the USA and N. Ireland with fucked up laws on abortion.. This is what happens when religions poke their noses into politics. Lives are lost and people get destroyed. " Well said. | |||
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"Obviously they won last year as well ... Why obviously? Nation who wins host the next contest Ah right. I never watch it unless there something to perv over." I learnt that from 'father Ted' | |||
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" I always thought the Jewish people were displaced and provided with the country of Israel in 1948. Much of that population came from displaced Jewish people as a consequence of persecution in World War 2 (cant believe I'm having to say this! ).
Are there atrocities by both sides in the conflict? Of course there are.
But are you really making references to the Eurovision contest and Israeli foreign policy?
Government policy, rarely reflects the everyday person in countries. Assuming you're British,do you think you should be thrown out of the Olympics because of atrocities in history by the UK?
The rather naff contest has no connection to politics and is a harmless event where countries pretty much laugh at each other.
Shame on you. "Shame on me? I think not. It's interesting that many contributors have picked up on this one aspect of my op whilst disregarding the others. Yes, it is true that Israel was founded on the back of atrocities committed by the Nazi regime but i fail to see why such people couldn't simply be repatriated back to the country of their origin. Instead we allow the displacement of the Palestinians, two wrongs do not make a right. Going back to the Eurovision aspect; my op was inspired by an interview this morning where the Icelandic contestants claim they were told by the organisers that any attempt made by them to protest would immediately see the performance pulled and the country punished (still not sure how they hope to achieve this). So, not only is the west continuing to turn a blind eye to the actions of the Israeli state, they also hope to quash any voice that dares to speak against it. Now do you see the connection? | |||
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" I always thought the Jewish people were displaced and provided with the country of Israel in 1948. Much of that population came from displaced Jewish people as a consequence of persecution in World War 2 (cant believe I'm having to say this! ).
Are there atrocities by both sides in the conflict? Of course there are.
But are you really making references to the Eurovision contest and Israeli foreign policy?
Government policy, rarely reflects the everyday person in countries. Assuming you're British,do you think you should be thrown out of the Olympics because of atrocities in history by the UK?
The rather naff contest has no connection to politics and is a harmless event where countries pretty much laugh at each other.
Shame on you.
Shame on me? I think not.
It's interesting that many contributors have picked up on this one aspect of my op whilst disregarding the others. Yes, it is true that Israel was founded on the back of atrocities committed by the Nazi regime but i fail to see why such people couldn't simply be repatriated back to the country of their origin. Instead we allow the displacement of the Palestinians, two wrongs do not make a right.
Going back to the Eurovision aspect; my op was inspired by an interview this morning where the Icelandic contestants claim they were told by the organisers that any attempt made by them to protest would immediately see the performance pulled and the country punished (still not sure how they hope to achieve this).
So, not only is the west continuing to turn a blind eye to the actions of the Israeli state, they also hope to quash any voice that dares to speak against it.
Now do you see the connection? "The Icelandic entry had a BDSM theme. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1HNhA-7OEU | |||
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"Israel has offered for Palestine to be a state of its own on numerous occasions If you go down the stolen land route which is false in the first place .. why don’t you go all the way back to see who it was stolen from originally it was the Jews Gaza has had more aid than the whole of Europe did during the rebuilding after world war 2 I could go on The people of Gaza suffer under an oppressive regime that throws gay people off buildings sends kids as suicide bombers and steals money from foreign donations. Israel wants peace and to be recognised the LEADERS of Palestine want to wipe the Jews off the map Which side is seems unreasonable? All while innocent Israelis and Palestinians die because the leaders of Gaza are a terrorist group ( The UNs words not mine) " My dear chap, while some of your points may be true the UN is so far up the arses of the Israelis only it's feet are sticking out. Why do you think they've never been brought to account for their actions? Do you really think that the Two State solution is the answer when Israel gets to keep all the rich, fertile land while the Palestinians just get desert? As i said earlier, in the 1930's Palestine was one of the richest countries in the Middle East, now look at it. | |||
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"Eurovision is being held in Tel Aviv, excuse me for asking but since when has Israel been in Europe? " I got rid of the rest of the OP's diatribe because it feels oppotunistic to try and like eurovision to the stuff they are peddling... 1) please don't bring your politics into eurovision.... 2) Eurovision is run by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU)...... Israel has been part of the EBU since 1957...... | |||
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"If your OP was about Israel and not Jews, maybe try the title "Israeli Eurovision" instead? I don't know a single Jewish person who agrees with the actions of the Israelis, including one or two I know who were born there. It may well not have been intentional but the post did come across as anti-Semitism. " Point taken. | |||
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"Israel has offered for Palestine to be a state of its own on numerous occasions If you go down the stolen land route which is false in the first place .. why don’t you go all the way back to see who it was stolen from originally it was the Jews Gaza has had more aid than the whole of Europe did during the rebuilding after world war 2 I could go on The people of Gaza suffer under an oppressive regime that throws gay people off buildings sends kids as suicide bombers and steals money from foreign donations. Israel wants peace and to be recognised the LEADERS of Palestine want to wipe the Jews off the map Which side is seems unreasonable? All while innocent Israelis and Palestinians die because the leaders of Gaza are a terrorist group ( The UNs words not mine) My dear chap, while some of your points may be true the UN is so far up the arses of the Israelis only it's feet are sticking out. Why do you think they've never been brought to account for their actions? Do you really think that the Two State solution is the answer when Israel gets to keep all the rich, fertile land while the Palestinians just get desert? As i said earlier, in the 1930's Palestine was one of the richest countries in the Middle East, now look at it." The UN condemns Israel’s actions a lot you just choose not to see it. All of my points are correct The Israelis turned the land fertile Palestine was never a country look it up got that one wrong How many Jews in Arab country’s ? Near zero what happened to them oh they got murdered or escaped to Israel How many Arabs and Palestinians in Israel? A lot What about all the Ethiopian Jews? Persecuted and seeked refuge in Israel No one is going to solve the Middle East problem here but keep your anti Semitic comments coming | |||
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"Eurovision is being held in Tel Aviv, excuse me for asking but since when has Israel been in Europe? I got rid of the rest of the OP's diatribe because it feels oppotunistic to try and like eurovision to the stuff they are peddling... 1) please don't bring your politics into eurovision.... 2) Eurovision is run by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU)...... Israel has been part of the EBU since 1957...... " And this is probably where the directive to ban any form of protest came from. | |||
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"Israel has offered for Palestine to be a state of its own on numerous occasions If you go down the stolen land route which is false in the first place .. why don’t you go all the way back to see who it was stolen from originally it was the Jews Gaza has had more aid than the whole of Europe did during the rebuilding after world war 2 I could go on The people of Gaza suffer under an oppressive regime that throws gay people off buildings sends kids as suicide bombers and steals money from foreign donations. Israel wants peace and to be recognised the LEADERS of Palestine want to wipe the Jews off the map Which side is seems unreasonable? All while innocent Israelis and Palestinians die because the leaders of Gaza are a terrorist group ( The UNs words not mine) My dear chap, while some of your points may be true the UN is so far up the arses of the Israelis only it's feet are sticking out. Why do you think they've never been brought to account for their actions? Do you really think that the Two State solution is the answer when Israel gets to keep all the rich, fertile land while the Palestinians just get desert? As i said earlier, in the 1930's Palestine was one of the richest countries in the Middle East, now look at it. The UN condemns Israel’s actions a lot you just choose not to see it. All of my points are correct The Israelis turned the land fertile Palestine was never a country look it up got that one wrong How many Jews in Arab country’s ? Near zero what happened to them oh they got murdered or escaped to Israel How many Arabs and Palestinians in Israel? A lot What about all the Ethiopian Jews? Persecuted and seeked refuge in Israel No one is going to solve the Middle East problem here but keep your anti Semitic comments coming "Umm he's not being anti Semitic, it's just a veiw on a longstanding problem. I wonder if Russia will get any points tonight. They've been such rouge's of late. | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago?" Was that guy with the beard in the frock not from Israel ? | |||
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"Israel has offered for Palestine to be a state of its own on numerous occasions If you go down the stolen land route which is false in the first place .. why don’t you go all the way back to see who it was stolen from originally it was the Jews Gaza has had more aid than the whole of Europe did during the rebuilding after world war 2 I could go on The people of Gaza suffer under an oppressive regime that throws gay people off buildings sends kids as suicide bombers and steals money from foreign donations. Israel wants peace and to be recognised the LEADERS of Palestine want to wipe the Jews off the map Which side is seems unreasonable? All while innocent Israelis and Palestinians die because the leaders of Gaza are a terrorist group ( The UNs words not mine) My dear chap, while some of your points may be true the UN is so far up the arses of the Israelis only it's feet are sticking out. Why do you think they've never been brought to account for their actions? Do you really think that the Two State solution is the answer when Israel gets to keep all the rich, fertile land while the Palestinians just get desert? As i said earlier, in the 1930's Palestine was one of the richest countries in the Middle East, now look at it. The UN condemns Israel’s actions a lot you just choose not to see it. All of my points are correct The Israelis turned the land fertile Palestine was never a country look it up got that one wrong How many Jews in Arab country’s ? Near zero what happened to them oh they got murdered or escaped to Israel How many Arabs and Palestinians in Israel? A lot What about all the Ethiopian Jews? Persecuted and seeked refuge in Israel No one is going to solve the Middle East problem here but keep your anti Semitic comments coming
Umm he's not being anti Semitic, it's just a veiw on a longstanding problem.
I wonder if Russia will get any points tonight. They've been such rouge's of late."Thanks Jeremy Corbyn | |||
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"Israel has offered for Palestine to be a state of its own on numerous occasions If you go down the stolen land route which is false in the first place .. why don’t you go all the way back to see who it was stolen from originally it was the Jews Gaza has had more aid than the whole of Europe did during the rebuilding after world war 2 I could go on The people of Gaza suffer under an oppressive regime that throws gay people off buildings sends kids as suicide bombers and steals money from foreign donations. Israel wants peace and to be recognised the LEADERS of Palestine want to wipe the Jews off the map Which side is seems unreasonable? All while innocent Israelis and Palestinians die because the leaders of Gaza are a terrorist group ( The UNs words not mine) My dear chap, while some of your points may be true the UN is so far up the arses of the Israelis only it's feet are sticking out. Why do you think they've never been brought to account for their actions? Do you really think that the Two State solution is the answer when Israel gets to keep all the rich, fertile land while the Palestinians just get desert? As i said earlier, in the 1930's Palestine was one of the richest countries in the Middle East, now look at it. The UN condemns Israel’s actions a lot you just choose not to see it. All of my points are correct The Israelis turned the land fertile Palestine was never a country look it up got that one wrong How many Jews in Arab country’s ? Near zero what happened to them oh they got murdered or escaped to Israel How many Arabs and Palestinians in Israel? A lot What about all the Ethiopian Jews? Persecuted and seeked refuge in Israel No one is going to solve the Middle East problem here but keep your anti Semitic comments coming
Umm he's not being anti Semitic, it's just a veiw on a longstanding problem.
I wonder if Russia will get any points tonight. They've been such rouge's of late.
Thanks Jeremy Corbyn "Why, is Jeremy a Jew too? | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago? Was that guy with the beard in the frock not from Israel ? " That's what I thought. The woman with beard was Austrian. Last year's Israel winner did the chicken dance. | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago? Was that guy with the beard in the frock not from Israel ? That's what I thought. The woman with beard was Austrian. Last year's Israel winner did the chicken dance." So it was. Kosher mate kosher | |||
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"Hmmm...did you only just notice that israel is in the eurovision contest, i mean only since 1973...the same year dark side of the moon was released, perhaps thats where you have been staying? Oh i see now, your one of them moon dwelling nazi men..welcome back to earth then!!! Didn't Israel win a few years ago? Was that guy with the beard in the frock not from Israel ? That's what I thought. The woman with beard was Austrian. Last year's Israel winner did the chicken dance. So it was. Kosher mate kosher "I'll also add it was the milkmaid with the pump that distracted me. | |||
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"Eurovision is being held in Tel Aviv, excuse me for asking but since when has Israel been in Europe? Why does the west continually have to crawl up the arses of these people? The irony here is that we're expected to turn a blind eye to the attrocities they repeatedly commit against the indiginous, occupied Palestinians and at the same time accuse us of doing exactly the same to their plight in the 1930's. A psychologist would claim that they have 'identified with the aggressor'. They are guilty of oppression, indiscriminate murder and ethnic cleansing. They deny both food and medical aide, nothing short of war crimes all the while expecting us to stand back and say nothing, reminding us of the guilt we should be feeling, it's high time we let that go. In their arrogance the claim to be 'the chosen people', so what does that make the rest of us? Untermensch? (Now where have i heard that before?). Now it seems that if there is the slightest notion of an artist daring to protest on stage against Israel their performance will immediately be shut down and the offending nation punished (though i'm not sure how that can be achieved), woe betide anyone that dares to criticise them. For the record, i'm not anti- Semitic but i am most certainly anti-Israel. Free Palestine. " who cares it's all shite | |||
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"Eurovision is being held in Tel Aviv, excuse me for asking but since when has Israel been in Europe? Why does the west continually have to crawl up the arses of these people? The irony here is that we're expected to turn a blind eye to the attrocities they repeatedly commit against the indiginous, occupied Palestinians and at the same time accuse us of doing exactly the same to their plight in the 1930's. A psychologist would claim that they have 'identified with the aggressor'. They are guilty of oppression, indiscriminate murder and ethnic cleansing. They deny both food and medical aide, nothing short of war crimes all the while expecting us to stand back and say nothing, reminding us of the guilt we should be feeling, it's high time we let that go. In their arrogance the claim to be 'the chosen people', so what does that make the rest of us? Untermensch? (Now where have i heard that before?). Now it seems that if there is the slightest notion of an artist daring to protest on stage against Israel their performance will immediately be shut down and the offending nation punished (though i'm not sure how that can be achieved), woe betide anyone that dares to criticise them. For the record, i'm not anti- Semitic but i am most certainly anti-Israel. Free Palestine. who cares it's all shite" As was Jemini. The 2003 UK entry. | |||
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"It saddens me to see that so many people seem to be ok with what Israel's up to and that so many people think that to speak out against Israel one must therefore be an anti-Semite. Anti-Semitism, by definition, a hatred or prejudice against Jews. 'However, criticism of Israel similar to that levelled at any other country cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic' (source:IHRA). With the aforementioned post re Jeremy Corbyn it would be interesting to know what was actually said to bring about the accusations of anti-Semitism there. Unless such knowledge is released into the public domain how can we be sure it was actually such and not merely a criticism of the State of Israel." So then why did you use the word Jews in your thread title? Completely unnecessarily in my view, and as other people have already said in this thread, just the use of that word against the backdrop of the rest of your post smacks of anti semitism. You could have titled it "Eurovision -v- Israel" or something like that, but you didn't - you went for the jugular with "Jews" | |||
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"It saddens me to see that so many people seem to be ok with what Israel's up to and that so many people think that to speak out against Israel one must therefore be an anti-Semite. Anti-Semitism, by definition, a hatred or prejudice against Jews. 'However, criticism of Israel similar to that levelled at any other country cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic' (source:IHRA). With the aforementioned post re Jeremy Corbyn it would be interesting to know what was actually said to bring about the accusations of anti-Semitism there. Unless such knowledge is released into the public domain how can we be sure it was actually such and not merely a criticism of the State of Israel. So then why did you use the word Jews in your thread title? Completely unnecessarily in my view, and as other people have already said in this thread, just the use of that word against the backdrop of the rest of your post smacks of anti semitism. You could have titled it "Eurovision -v- Israel" or something like that, but you didn't - you went for the jugular with "Jews" " I have taken these comments on board and will endeavour to be more careful with my wording in future. | |||
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