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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

"In the last few months Prince William, Kate, Prince Harry and Meghan have been working hard behind the scenes to launch an exciting new project - Shout UK.

The 24/7 text service aims to help people who are struggling to cope by offering immediate help at any time - the first of its kind in the UK."

Google 'Shout UK' for info.

Do you think a text service will work better than a telephone help line?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think so yes.

I feel much more comfortable texting my problems. I find I can word things easier, my sobs aren’t amongst the words and I can make myself clearer.

Plus, loads of people (myself included) feel anxious on the phone.

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By *cottish guy 555Man
over a year ago

London

Difficult to say, but I would think that anything would be of help. Different people respond to the various forms of communication

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By *adeiteWoman
over a year ago

Staffordshire

I hate talking on the phone to strangers. So yes. Much much easier to get help. And more discreet. You could be out with friends but internally struggling texting doesn't seem out of the ordinary.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think so yes.

I feel much more comfortable texting my problems. I find I can word things easier, my sobs aren’t amongst the words and I can make myself clearer.

Plus, loads of people (myself included) feel anxious on the phone. "

Texts can be sent on the bus, at work, anywhere that you might not be able to talk.

Good point about feeling anxious talking too. X

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By *arlo82Couple
over a year ago

the gym and random places

If I'm a little down then text yes would work. Sometimes a rant works. Many can't put their feelings across verbally so would work well for them .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whilst I agree with this.

I wonder why launch it as a new service, could they not have worked with the Samaritans or Mind or another existing to create this?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Whilst I agree with this.

I wonder why launch it as a new service, could they not have worked with the Samaritans or Mind or another existing to create this?

"

It's part of their Heads Together charity that already exists.

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

Anything that brings down the barrier of people getting help is a good thing

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

You can also text or email Samaritans, just for info. The more support that's available the better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was part of a secret group on fb offering an ear to our forces. Issues need to be heard in the open.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I heard it on the radio this morning and think it’s a great idea. Not everyone’s good at talking to anyone so texting is a good thing and opens up another form of help x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As far as I’m aware there is already a text service available to people suffering with mental illness

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I was part of a secret group on fb offering an ear to our forces. Issues need to be heard in the open. "

Why was it secret? Do you mean like a closed group?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"You can also text or email Samaritans, just for info. The more support that's available the better. "

Good info, thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I think it will be and I agree about it being a better way of communicating for people who suffer from anxiety. Somebody who is very close to me suffers from anxiety and depression, benefits a lot from using the online chat when dealing with domestic things he needs to sort out as well as ordering his repeat prescriptions which otherwise would have to be done over the phone or face to face.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The more options out there the better

Was on the top floor of a carpark earlier to take pics and found few notices with Samaritan number

Initially thought strange place to put it but then realized maybe not, esp before the roof barriers went up

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I'm reading all the replies.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The more options out there the better

Was on the top floor of a carpark earlier to take pics and found few notices with Samaritan number

Initially thought strange place to put it but then realized maybe not, esp before the roof barriers went up"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The more options out there the better

Was on the top floor of a carpark earlier to take pics and found few notices with Samaritan number

Initially thought strange place to put it but then realized maybe not, esp before the roof barriers went up

"

Just as well I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliant idea for all kinds of reasons

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By *carlet_heavenWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the sticks

Hmmm...

So, what are we saying?

Lots of money & resources have been spent on an advertising campaign for a service that connects people to 'help' during a mental health crisis?

I'm wondering if anyone has personal experience of trying to get 'help' during a mental health crisis & if they did indeed get access to any 'help'?

It seems to me that an awful lot of time & money is directed to access to services, but that the services behind all the hype really just don't deliver.

The average person in crisis is unlikely to have access to a bed in a psychiatric hospital for months because there are just no beds.

There is very little support for people with mental illness & struggling in society-the shortfall being picked up as best they can by mental health charities such as MIND.

And as for any type of psychotherapy...the criteria for psychological therapies is so strict that hardly anyone is offered it & if they are the average waiting time is 9 months.

So good luck to anyone having a crisis...but at least now you can be let down by text too

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hmmm...

So, what are we saying?

Lots of money & resources have been spent on an advertising campaign for a service that connects people to 'help' during a mental health crisis?

I'm wondering if anyone has personal experience of trying to get 'help' during a mental health crisis & if they did indeed get access to any 'help'?

It seems to me that an awful lot of time & money is directed to access to services, but that the services behind all the hype really just don't deliver.

The average person in crisis is unlikely to have access to a bed in a psychiatric hospital for months because there are just no beds.

There is very little support for people with mental illness & struggling in society-the shortfall being picked up as best they can by mental health charities such as MIND.

And as for any type of psychotherapy...the criteria for psychological therapies is so strict that hardly anyone is offered it & if they are the average waiting time is 9 months.

So good luck to anyone having a crisis...but at least now you can be let down by text too "

Perhaps they should do nothing at all then there's no let down?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anything that helps is a bonus. So many agencies are overstretched and poorly funded.

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford


"Hmmm...

So, what are we saying?

Lots of money & resources have been spent on an advertising campaign for a service that connects people to 'help' during a mental health crisis?

I'm wondering if anyone has personal experience of trying to get 'help' during a mental health crisis & if they did indeed get access to any 'help'?

It seems to me that an awful lot of time & money is directed to access to services, but that the services behind all the hype really just don't deliver.

The average person in crisis is unlikely to have access to a bed in a psychiatric hospital for months because there are just no beds.

There is very little support for people with mental illness & struggling in society-the shortfall being picked up as best they can by mental health charities such as MIND.

And as for any type of psychotherapy...the criteria for psychological therapies is so strict that hardly anyone is offered it & if they are the average waiting time is 9 months.

So good luck to anyone having a crisis...but at least now you can be let down by text too "

Yes, I’ve had personal experience in this situation and I agree that everything you say about long term care is correct.

What they can do here is save people from doing something bad in the next five minutes. In an hour or a day or a week they might be in the same situation, but that’s better than being in hospital with their stomach pumped.

I thought the rest of the NHS was under resourced, but mental health takes the gold medal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hmmm...

So, what are we saying?

Lots of money & resources have been spent on an advertising campaign for a service that connects people to 'help' during a mental health crisis?

I'm wondering if anyone has personal experience of trying to get 'help' during a mental health crisis & if they did indeed get access to any 'help'?

It seems to me that an awful lot of time & money is directed to access to services, but that the services behind all the hype really just don't deliver.

The average person in crisis is unlikely to have access to a bed in a psychiatric hospital for months because there are just no beds.

There is very little support for people with mental illness & struggling in society-the shortfall being picked up as best they can by mental health charities such as MIND.

And as for any type of psychotherapy...the criteria for psychological therapies is so strict that hardly anyone is offered it & if they are the average waiting time is 9 months.

So good luck to anyone having a crisis...but at least now you can be let down by text too "

Yes I’ve had experience, my son has been put to the top of the waiting list to see a psychiatrist, as part of the learning disability team since the beginning of December. He had his first appointment this week, and he was a priority. God knows how long he’d have to wait if he wasn’t x

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By *ydrewMan
over a year ago

forest

I really struggle with this idea. Text mags can be so easily misinterpreted and then there the whole thing of the haven't replied. I think the idea is brilliant. Raising awareness of mental health is amazing. Just not sure on texting. I hope it works.

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By *carlet_heavenWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the sticks

No. Something desperately needs to be done as our mental health services in this country are a national disgrace.

I agree totally with raising the profile on mental health & suicide in particular, but I'm saying that resources are often used in areas which are less useful to the person suffering an acute mental health crisis. There is in actuality very little or no support offered by the NHS in this situation. Most care available at this level is offered by volunteers & charities such as MIND & the Samaritans or possibly SANE.

Offering a text service (or any kind of direct access to service) makes it appear to Joe Public that something proactive is happening & we can all carry on safe in the knowledge that we're a fully functioning society with world class healthcare.

However, I'm just pointing out the reality of the situation : In a crisis all you are offered are pharmaceuticals; sedatives, sleeping tablets, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants. Psychiatrists openly admit to not knowing any of these drugs work on the brain & therefore give no guarantees of them working & I can tell you that the 'trial & error' element of working through this period is excruciating to experience or watch.

At the crisis stage, you are offered no one to talk to & you are offered no therapy...nothing...for a long time. You're on your own, on a hospital waiting list, a hospital which you probably will never see the inside of.

In my considered opinion, the money could be better spent on employing someone people can actually talk to. Positive social (face to face) interactions are known to release beneficial hormones lacking in the depressed/unwell patient. I'm wondering what the research says about texting...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No. Something desperately needs to be done as our mental health services in this country are a national disgrace.

I agree totally with raising the profile on mental health & suicide in particular, but I'm saying that resources are often used in areas which are less useful to the person suffering an acute mental health crisis. There is in actuality very little or no support offered by the NHS in this situation. Most care available at this level is offered by volunteers & charities such as MIND & the Samaritans or possibly SANE.

Offering a text service (or any kind of direct access to service) makes it appear to Joe Public that something proactive is happening & we can all carry on safe in the knowledge that we're a fully functioning society with world class healthcare.

However, I'm just pointing out the reality of the situation : In a crisis all you are offered are pharmaceuticals; sedatives, sleeping tablets, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants. Psychiatrists openly admit to not knowing any of these drugs work on the brain & therefore give no guarantees of them working & I can tell you that the 'trial & error' element of working through this period is excruciating to experience or watch.

At the crisis stage, you are offered no one to talk to & you are offered no therapy...nothing...for a long time. You're on your own, on a hospital waiting list, a hospital which you probably will never see the inside of.

In my considered opinion, the money could be better spent on employing someone people can actually talk to. Positive social (face to face) interactions are known to release beneficial hormones lacking in the depressed/unwell patient. I'm wondering what the research says about texting..."

I really don't think they're trying to solve the issue, just help. If it helps some people I think it's better than nothing.

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By *imandHerNottsCouple
over a year ago

North Notts

Not much use for the illiterate portion of vulnerable people though is it?

Great for the larger percentage of people needing some support though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What if you're out of credit?

Are the mobile networks in on it to assist with those on the bones of their arse?

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..

I think it has its place and should be welcomed as another form of seeking support. For some people it will be a much more comfortable way of seeking help. We have to move with the times.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What if you're out of credit?

Are the mobile networks in on it to assist with those on the bones of their arse?"

It's free.

"Telecommunications Partners

We would like to thank the following networks for providing the Shout’s text service free to the service user and ‘off bill’.

EE, O2, Three, Vodafone, BT Mobile, Tesco Mobile, Virgin Mobile, iD Mobile, Sky, Telecom Plus, Lebara and GiffGaff"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What if you're out of credit?

Are the mobile networks in on it to assist with those on the bones of their arse?

It's free.

"Telecommunications Partners

We would like to thank the following networks for providing the Shout’s text service free to the service user and ‘off bill’.

EE, O2, Three, Vodafone, BT Mobile, Tesco Mobile, Virgin Mobile, iD Mobile, Sky, Telecom Plus, Lebara and GiffGaff""

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Whilst I agree with this.

I wonder why launch it as a new service, could they not have worked with the Samaritans or Mind or another existing to create this?

"

The Samaritans already run a text service on top of their face to face,email, letter and phone support.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"No. Something desperately needs to be done as our mental health services in this country are a national disgrace.

I agree totally with raising the profile on mental health & suicide in particular, but I'm saying that resources are often used in areas which are less useful to the person suffering an acute mental health crisis. There is in actuality very little or no support offered by the NHS in this situation. Most care available at this level is offered by volunteers & charities such as MIND & the Samaritans or possibly SANE.

Offering a text service (or any kind of direct access to service) makes it appear to Joe Public that something proactive is happening & we can all carry on safe in the knowledge that we're a fully functioning society with world class healthcare.

However, I'm just pointing out the reality of the situation : In a crisis all you are offered are pharmaceuticals; sedatives, sleeping tablets, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants. Psychiatrists openly admit to not knowing any of these drugs work on the brain & therefore give no guarantees of them working & I can tell you that the 'trial & error' element of working through this period is excruciating to experience or watch.

At the crisis stage, you are offered no one to talk to & you are offered no therapy...nothing...for a long time. You're on your own, on a hospital waiting list, a hospital which you probably will never see the inside of.

In my considered opinion, the money could be better spent on employing someone people can actually talk to. Positive social (face to face) interactions are known to release beneficial hormones lacking in the depressed/unwell patient. I'm wondering what the research says about texting...

I really don't think they're trying to solve the issue, just help. If it helps some people I think it's better than nothing. "

Exactly. They are recognising that the way people communicate has changed and a lot of people prefer the anonymity and non invasive method of texting. You can pick it up whenever you feel like it.

No one is disputing the fact that services for mental health in this country are underfunded or under staffed etc but that is for the government to solve. Having bridging services such as this could help those who are not yet in acute crisis as described above. Not everyone who needs support needs access to hospitals it beds etc. They just need someone to talk to, be it face to face it via any other method.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whilst I agree with this.

I wonder why launch it as a new service, could they not have worked with the Samaritans or Mind or another existing to create this?

The Samaritans already run a text service on top of their face to face,email, letter and phone support. "
Since posting, I've been told this too. So I don't know what this new service has to offer? I will have to look into it.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Whilst I agree with this.

I wonder why launch it as a new service, could they not have worked with the Samaritans or Mind or another existing to create this?

The Samaritans already run a text service on top of their face to face,email, letter and phone support. Since posting, I've been told this too. So I don't know what this new service has to offer? I will have to look into it. "

Some people think the Samaritans are a religious service so are put off contacting them. Having another service gives them options.

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

I work in Mental Health Services so any new project is welcome to take the stress off the NHS who struggle to cope with the need for services

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By *lienrockMan
over a year ago

Fife

I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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"I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them."

Some of them are people that have suffered with mental health issues so why shouldn’t they use their status for good?

The can’t do right for doing wrong

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


"No. Something desperately needs to be done as our mental health services in this country are a national disgrace.

I agree totally with raising the profile on mental health & suicide in particular, but I'm saying that resources are often used in areas which are less useful to the person suffering an acute mental health crisis. There is in actuality very little or no support offered by the NHS in this situation. Most care available at this level is offered by volunteers & charities such as MIND & the Samaritans or possibly SANE.

Offering a text service (or any kind of direct access to service) makes it appear to Joe Public that something proactive is happening & we can all carry on safe in the knowledge that we're a fully functioning society with world class healthcare.

However, I'm just pointing out the reality of the situation : In a crisis all you are offered are pharmaceuticals; sedatives, sleeping tablets, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants. Psychiatrists openly admit to not knowing any of these drugs work on the brain & therefore give no guarantees of them working & I can tell you that the 'trial & error' element of working through this period is excruciating to experience or watch.

At the crisis stage, you are offered no one to talk to & you are offered no therapy...nothing...for a long time. You're on your own, on a hospital waiting list, a hospital which you probably will never see the inside of.

In my considered opinion, the money could be better spent on employing someone people can actually talk to. Positive social (face to face) interactions are known to release beneficial hormones lacking in the depressed/unwell patient. I'm wondering what the research says about texting..."

Not to mention the irony of elite billionaire Royals with every service at their 'beck and call' championing unpaid volunteers to provide the services that should be funded by the NHS (and which could be funded if the elites and corporations were paying their due tax).

The last 20 years have seen the biggest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich ever. The NHS is being deliberately defunded so that it can be broken up and sold off to the corporations. Charities like this are just helping this process.

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By *lienrockMan
over a year ago

Fife


"No. Something desperately needs to be done as our mental health services in this country are a national disgrace.

I agree totally with raising the profile on mental health & suicide in particular, but I'm saying that resources are often used in areas which are less useful to the person suffering an acute mental health crisis. There is in actuality very little or no support offered by the NHS in this situation. Most care available at this level is offered by volunteers & charities such as MIND & the Samaritans or possibly SANE.

Offering a text service (or any kind of direct access to service) makes it appear to Joe Public that something proactive is happening & we can all carry on safe in the knowledge that we're a fully functioning society with world class healthcare.

However, I'm just pointing out the reality of the situation : In a crisis all you are offered are pharmaceuticals; sedatives, sleeping tablets, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants. Psychiatrists openly admit to not knowing any of these drugs work on the brain & therefore give no guarantees of them working & I can tell you that the 'trial & error' element of working through this period is excruciating to experience or watch.

At the crisis stage, you are offered no one to talk to & you are offered no therapy...nothing...for a long time. You're on your own, on a hospital waiting list, a hospital which you probably will never see the inside of.

In my considered opinion, the money could be better spent on employing someone people can actually talk to. Positive social (face to face) interactions are known to release beneficial hormones lacking in the depressed/unwell patient. I'm wondering what the research says about texting...

Not to mention the irony of elite billionaire Royals with every service at their 'beck and call' championing unpaid volunteers to provide the services that should be funded by the NHS (and which could be funded if the elites and corporations were paying their due tax).

The last 20 years have seen the biggest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich ever. The NHS is being deliberately defunded so that it can be broken up and sold off to the corporations. Charities like this are just helping this process."

Completely agree

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them."

Do if you're rich you can't suffer from mental health issues?

Not even when your mum dies in a horrific car accident?

Not even if your upbringing is played out in the media?

Not even if your parentage is questioned every time there's a need story about you?

Stop being bloody ridiculous. They are doing something good. It isn't for them to fix everything. They couldn't if they tried. There is an element of social responsibility which we all just shoulder. We should all look out for each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, mental health difficulties does not choose certain people to suffer from it

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By *lienrockMan
over a year ago

Fife


"I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them.

Do if you're rich you can't suffer from mental health issues?

Not even when your mum dies in a horrific car accident?

Not even if your upbringing is played out in the media?

Not even if your parentage is questioned every time there's a need story about you?

Stop being bloody ridiculous. They are doing something good. It isn't for them to fix everything. They couldn't if they tried. There is an element of social responsibility which we all just shoulder. We should all look out for each other. "

It's not bloody ridiculous for tax payers to comment on royals about anything this isn't 1392 and car accident is a matter of opinion personally I think they bumped her off because she was a real person with real feelings and tried to live without them

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"No. Something desperately needs to be done as our mental health services in this country are a national disgrace.

I agree totally with raising the profile on mental health & suicide in particular, but I'm saying that resources are often used in areas which are less useful to the person suffering an acute mental health crisis. There is in actuality very little or no support offered by the NHS in this situation. Most care available at this level is offered by volunteers & charities such as MIND & the Samaritans or possibly SANE.

Offering a text service (or any kind of direct access to service) makes it appear to Joe Public that something proactive is happening & we can all carry on safe in the knowledge that we're a fully functioning society with world class healthcare.

However, I'm just pointing out the reality of the situation : In a crisis all you are offered are pharmaceuticals; sedatives, sleeping tablets, anti-psychotics, anti-depressants. Psychiatrists openly admit to not knowing any of these drugs work on the brain & therefore give no guarantees of them working & I can tell you that the 'trial & error' element of working through this period is excruciating to experience or watch.

At the crisis stage, you are offered no one to talk to & you are offered no therapy...nothing...for a long time. You're on your own, on a hospital waiting list, a hospital which you probably will never see the inside of.

In my considered opinion, the money could be better spent on employing someone people can actually talk to. Positive social (face to face) interactions are known to release beneficial hormones lacking in the depressed/unwell patient. I'm wondering what the research says about texting...

Not to mention the irony of elite billionaire Royals with every service at their 'beck and call' championing unpaid volunteers to provide the services that should be funded by the NHS (and which could be funded if the elites and corporations were paying their due tax).

The last 20 years have seen the biggest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich ever. The NHS is being deliberately defunded so that it can be broken up and sold off to the corporations. Charities like this are just helping this process."

And how is funding the NHS and corporate tax Dodgers anything the Royals can fix?

That's the Government's remit and if anyone should be questioned about the money they earn it's that lot! They fit there and give themselves an 11% payrise year in year out but the people who work for them essentially get a pay cut due to cost of living increases.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them.

Do if you're rich you can't suffer from mental health issues?

Not even when your mum dies in a horrific car accident?

Not even if your upbringing is played out in the media?

Not even if your parentage is questioned every time there's a need story about you?

Stop being bloody ridiculous. They are doing something good. It isn't for them to fix everything. They couldn't if they tried. There is an element of social responsibility which we all just shoulder. We should all look out for each other.

It's not bloody ridiculous for tax payers to comment on royals about anything this isn't 1392 and car accident is a matter of opinion personally I think they bumped her off because she was a real person with real feelings and tried to live without them"

That doesn't answer my question. You stated that the royals have no idea of real mental health issues. That is where you are bloody ridiculous. If argue that losing your mother at such a young age means they do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think, given the stature of the people involved in the service that it’s a great way of raising awareness.

Fair play to them.

The service has been running for sometime already and has helped countless people according to the interviews I heard on the radio yesterday.

Unfortunately it’s bound to be inundated in callers with the current awareness campaign and they’re attempting to train 3000 new voluntary operators.

I’m interested to know how many of you would volunteer in the current recruitment drive?

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By *lienrockMan
over a year ago

Fife


"I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them.

Do if you're rich you can't suffer from mental health issues?

Not even when your mum dies in a horrific car accident?

Not even if your upbringing is played out in the media?

Not even if your parentage is questioned every time there's a need story about you?

Stop being bloody ridiculous. They are doing something good. It isn't for them to fix everything. They couldn't if they tried. There is an element of social responsibility which we all just shoulder. We should all look out for each other.

It's not bloody ridiculous for tax payers to comment on royals about anything this isn't 1392 and car accident is a matter of opinion personally I think they bumped her off because she was a real person with real feelings and tried to live without them

That doesn't answer my question. You stated that the royals have no idea of real mental health issues. That is where you are bloody ridiculous. If argue that losing your mother at such a young age means they do. "

Losing their mum was awful but it hasn't stopped them running with the official story or enjoying the most spoiled upbringing on the planet. Getting fake exam passes & pretending to be a soldier 50miles away from enemy lines not to mention hanging out with a pair of ancient nazis with a horrid history & partying tax payers money away on good times. They are all wankers in my book apart from harry he can be quite funny at times

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them.

Do if you're rich you can't suffer from mental health issues?

Not even when your mum dies in a horrific car accident?

Not even if your upbringing is played out in the media?

Not even if your parentage is questioned every time there's a need story about you?

Stop being bloody ridiculous. They are doing something good. It isn't for them to fix everything. They couldn't if they tried. There is an element of social responsibility which we all just shoulder. We should all look out for each other.

It's not bloody ridiculous for tax payers to comment on royals about anything this isn't 1392 and car accident is a matter of opinion personally I think they bumped her off because she was a real person with real feelings and tried to live without them

That doesn't answer my question. You stated that the royals have no idea of real mental health issues. That is where you are bloody ridiculous. If argue that losing your mother at such a young age means they do.

Losing their mum was awful but it hasn't stopped them running with the official story or enjoying the most spoiled upbringing on the planet. Getting fake exam passes & pretending to be a soldier 50miles away from enemy lines not to mention hanging out with a pair of ancient nazis with a horrid history & partying tax payers money away on good times. They are all wankers in my book apart from harry he can be quite funny at times "

What an abhorrent and ignorant point of view you have. You clearly do not understand mental health at all and are just taking the opportunity to take an I'll judged swipe at the royal family.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Hmmm...

So, what are we saying?

Lots of money & resources have been spent on an advertising campaign for a service that connects people to 'help' during a mental health crisis?

I'm wondering if anyone has personal experience of trying to get 'help' during a mental health crisis & if they did indeed get access to any 'help'?

It seems to me that an awful lot of time & money is directed to access to services, but that the services behind all the hype really just don't deliver.

The average person in crisis is unlikely to have access to a bed in a psychiatric hospital for months because there are just no beds.

There is very little support for people with mental illness & struggling in society-the shortfall being picked up as best they can by mental health charities such as MIND.

And as for any type of psychotherapy...the criteria for psychological therapies is so strict that hardly anyone is offered it & if they are the average waiting time is 9 months.

So good luck to anyone having a crisis...but at least now you can be let down by text too "

I hear what your saying.

That wasn't my experience.

When I was ill I had daily support from the local cris team, either in a home visit or twice daily phone call.

For 3 months.......

Maybe it depends where you are?

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By *lienrockMan
over a year ago

Fife


"I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them.

Do if you're rich you can't suffer from mental health issues?

Not even when your mum dies in a horrific car accident?

Not even if your upbringing is played out in the media?

Not even if your parentage is questioned every time there's a need story about you?

Stop being bloody ridiculous. They are doing something good. It isn't for them to fix everything. They couldn't if they tried. There is an element of social responsibility which we all just shoulder. We should all look out for each other.

It's not bloody ridiculous for tax payers to comment on royals about anything this isn't 1392 and car accident is a matter of opinion personally I think they bumped her off because she was a real person with real feelings and tried to live without them

That doesn't answer my question. You stated that the royals have no idea of real mental health issues. That is where you are bloody ridiculous. If argue that losing your mother at such a young age means they do.

Losing their mum was awful but it hasn't stopped them running with the official story or enjoying the most spoiled upbringing on the planet. Getting fake exam passes & pretending to be a soldier 50miles away from enemy lines not to mention hanging out with a pair of ancient nazis with a horrid history & partying tax payers money away on good times. They are all wankers in my book apart from harry he can be quite funny at times

What an abhorrent and ignorant point of view you have. You clearly do not understand mental health at all and are just taking the opportunity to take an I'll judged swipe at the royal family. "

Just because I think the royals are media opportunistic hungry people doesn't mean I don't understand mental health issues. I've had my fair share & used support services but that doesn't mean I believe in the royal commitment to this. Are you a BBC let's street party every time the queen takes a shite kind of person by any chance?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them.

Do if you're rich you can't suffer from mental health issues?

Not even when your mum dies in a horrific car accident?

Not even if your upbringing is played out in the media?

Not even if your parentage is questioned every time there's a need story about you?

Stop being bloody ridiculous. They are doing something good. It isn't for them to fix everything. They couldn't if they tried. There is an element of social responsibility which we all just shoulder. We should all look out for each other.

It's not bloody ridiculous for tax payers to comment on royals about anything this isn't 1392 and car accident is a matter of opinion personally I think they bumped her off because she was a real person with real feelings and tried to live without them

That doesn't answer my question. You stated that the royals have no idea of real mental health issues. That is where you are bloody ridiculous. If argue that losing your mother at such a young age means they do.

Losing their mum was awful but it hasn't stopped them running with the official story or enjoying the most spoiled upbringing on the planet. Getting fake exam passes & pretending to be a soldier 50miles away from enemy lines not to mention hanging out with a pair of ancient nazis with a horrid history & partying tax payers money away on good times. They are all wankers in my book apart from harry he can be quite funny at times

What an abhorrent and ignorant point of view you have. You clearly do not understand mental health at all and are just taking the opportunity to take an I'll judged swipe at the royal family.

Just because I think the royals are media opportunistic hungry people doesn't mean I don't understand mental health issues. I've had my fair share & used support services but that doesn't mean I believe in the royal commitment to this. Are you a BBC let's street party every time the queen takes a shite kind of person by any chance?"

Nope. I'm a let's not judge people based on their circumstances sort of person. Just because someone us born into money it doesn't make them a bad person.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them.

Do if you're rich you can't suffer from mental health issues?

Not even when your mum dies in a horrific car accident?

Not even if your upbringing is played out in the media?

Not even if your parentage is questioned every time there's a need story about you?

Stop being bloody ridiculous. They are doing something good. It isn't for them to fix everything. They couldn't if they tried. There is an element of social responsibility which we all just shoulder. We should all look out for each other. "

I love it when people slate the Royal family for doing things they themselves don't do.

It's like all the problems of the world are the fault of Royalty and it's their duty to fix every problem in society.

Sometimes words fail me......

And back to the actual OP, I think it's a bloody brilliant idea.

Anything that offers additional support can only be welcomed.

And I dare say Royal patronage will only help bring the service to a wider audience, again, that can only be a good thing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think, given the stature of the people involved in the service that it’s a great way of raising awareness.

Fair play to them.

The service has been running for sometime already and has helped countless people according to the interviews I heard on the radio yesterday.

Unfortunately it’s bound to be inundated in callers with the current awareness campaign and they’re attempting to train 3000 new voluntary operators.

I’m interested to know how many of you would volunteer in the current recruitment drive?"

I'm looking into the volunteer aspect.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them.

Do if you're rich you can't suffer from mental health issues?

Not even when your mum dies in a horrific car accident?

Not even if your upbringing is played out in the media?

Not even if your parentage is questioned every time there's a need story about you?

Stop being bloody ridiculous. They are doing something good. It isn't for them to fix everything. They couldn't if they tried. There is an element of social responsibility which we all just shoulder. We should all look out for each other.

I love it when people slate the Royal family for doing things they themselves don't do.

It's like all the problems of the world are the fault of Royalty and it's their duty to fix every problem in society.

Sometimes words fail me......

And back to the actual OP, I think it's a bloody brilliant idea.

Anything that offers additional support can only be welcomed.

And I dare say Royal patronage will only help bring the service to a wider audience, again, that can only be a good thing."

Absolutely right! If raises awareness then that’s a great idea.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hmmm...

So, what are we saying?

Lots of money & resources have been spent on an advertising campaign for a service that connects people to 'help' during a mental health crisis?

I'm wondering if anyone has personal experience of trying to get 'help' during a mental health crisis & if they did indeed get access to any 'help'?

It seems to me that an awful lot of time & money is directed to access to services, but that the services behind all the hype really just don't deliver.

The average person in crisis is unlikely to have access to a bed in a psychiatric hospital for months because there are just no beds.

There is very little support for people with mental illness & struggling in society-the shortfall being picked up as best they can by mental health charities such as MIND.

And as for any type of psychotherapy...the criteria for psychological therapies is so strict that hardly anyone is offered it & if they are the average waiting time is 9 months.

So good luck to anyone having a crisis...but at least now you can be let down by text too

I hear what your saying.

That wasn't my experience.

When I was ill I had daily support from the local cris team, either in a home visit or twice daily phone call.

For 3 months.......

Maybe it depends where you are?"

Probably a postcode lottery like most things.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"I personally think the royals are spoiled & outright loaded from birth people who have no real idea of mental health issues. Involved in so much work for the media hype when they could actually pile money from the royal funds in and help real people with a real service. instead they work with charities trying to raise money from the serfs that work to pay for them.

Do if you're rich you can't suffer from mental health issues?

Not even when your mum dies in a horrific car accident?

Not even if your upbringing is played out in the media?

Not even if your parentage is questioned every time there's a need story about you?

Stop being bloody ridiculous. They are doing something good. It isn't for them to fix everything. They couldn't if they tried. There is an element of social responsibility which we all just shoulder. We should all look out for each other.

I love it when people slate the Royal family for doing things they themselves don't do.

It's like all the problems of the world are the fault of Royalty and it's their duty to fix every problem in society.

Sometimes words fail me......

And back to the actual OP, I think it's a bloody brilliant idea.

Anything that offers additional support can only be welcomed.

And I dare say Royal patronage will only help bring the service to a wider audience, again, that can only be a good thing.

Absolutely right! If raises awareness then that’s a great idea. "

Their patronage will raise awareness of the issues AND the service.

Win win.

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By *asha86Couple
over a year ago

walsall

Moving with the times yes it will help! People who suffer with anxiety and dont have the confidence to talk it will give them a voice and help. I hope it works and helps alot of people

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By *eriousGuyABCMan
over a year ago

( WEST OF ) Chippenham ish

Anything that helps vulnerable people and people in trouble / crisis has got to be a good thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think, given the stature of the people involved in the service that it’s a great way of raising awareness.

Fair play to them.

The service has been running for sometime already and has helped countless people according to the interviews I heard on the radio yesterday.

Unfortunately it’s bound to be inundated in callers with the current awareness campaign and they’re attempting to train 3000 new voluntary operators.

I’m interested to know how many of you would volunteer in the current recruitment drive?

I'm looking into the volunteer aspect."

Highly commendable

Have to admit I find it very daunting responsibility and time wise.

I’d also worry that being exposed to it all on the front line might effect my own thoughts.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I think, given the stature of the people involved in the service that it’s a great way of raising awareness.

Fair play to them.

The service has been running for sometime already and has helped countless people according to the interviews I heard on the radio yesterday.

Unfortunately it’s bound to be inundated in callers with the current awareness campaign and they’re attempting to train 3000 new voluntary operators.

I’m interested to know how many of you would volunteer in the current recruitment drive?

I'm looking into the volunteer aspect.

Highly commendable

Have to admit I find it very daunting responsibility and time wise.

I’d also worry that being exposed to it all on the front line might effect my own thoughts."

If it is set up like the Samaritans then there is great peer support that you can use at any time and when you are on shift you have a leader you can contact at any point to talk about the calls you've had to help you deal with your emotions around them.

I volunteered for 3 years with the Samaritans.

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