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"I’m sorry for your miscarriages. I doubt it’s a deliberate when/if statement. People/society tend to think you meet, get married, have kids. Like it’s the natural order of things. There is nothing wrong with your decision and you shouldn’t have to explain it to everyone xx" Totally agree, modern society do seem to like the idea of a set pattern of what should happen in a lifetime and quite often you fibd they struggle accepting when someone has different views... I ve hit my head against similar brick walls because I am very much outside the box.. C est la vie ![]() | |||
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"I need to have a rant... Why is it so hard for some people to accept that I won't be having children?! I was chatting to a friend this morning and she was asking when myself and my fella are going to have kids, not IF, WHEN! When I told her we most definitely weren't she almost squealed in shock and bombarded me with questions of why? And repeatedly told me I'd regret my decision. Now, this isn't a decision I've taken lightly...I'm 30, up to the age of 26, I'd had 14 miscarriages. My ex and I tried to have a baby for almost 4 years! I was eventually told that I would probably never carry full term. I accepted this and decided that if I still wanted kids in my 30s, I'd adopt or foster. Fast forward to now and I want and have a completely different lifestyle and kids just wouldn't and fit into it. I genuinely don't want to have children now, and haven't for at least the past 4 years! Im now in a great relationship of 3 years (so far) with a wonderful man who is 48, and not remotely interested in kids either. Why can some people not just accept that some women (people) don't want kids?! Why do they feel it's ok to question you or belittle your decision?! As much as I'm sure I've made the right choice for me, miscarriage is horrible, and not something I want to keep reliving and having to talk about. And breathe....rant over. I feel better now ![]() all that money saved | |||
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"As said above, it’s because that person isn’t listening to you at all. Your reasons don’t matter because they’re not hearing them. I don’t know if you’ve ever asked someone what car you should buy. “Get a Ford Focus, they’re great” a friend will say. Ask what car they have and they’ll tell you it’s a Ford Focus. It’s not because it’s the best car for you, with a family of 7 and the need to tow a 3 ton horsebox, it’s because if you get the same as them t justifies their choice. Your friend isn’t advising what might be best for you with children, they’re trying to get support for the choice that they made. Verdict: people who don’t listen are more trouble than they’re worth " Totally! ![]() | |||
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"The whole ‘when are you having kids’ question pisses me off, whether you’re planning on having kids or not. I’m 22 and had 6 miscarriages. I miscarried my baby boy’s twin at the beginning of this pregnancy. I can’t fucking enjoy pregnancy because I’m stressed and worried all the damn time. I was told I’d probably never naturally conceive. Your friend needs to mind her own business. It’s up to no one but yourself and your partner. What bugs me as well is that when men say they don’t want kids no one bats an eyelid. Just when women say it! It’s bloody ridiculous " Yes!! Absofuckinglutely! I hope the rest of your pregnancy goes perfectly for you! Looking forward to congratulating you when your little one arrives ![]() | |||
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"Some people have very little bubbles that they can't see outside of their own life and thoughts. Pity them and realise that they are at capacity with empathy. Your life will naturally progress and you will attract more like-minded people in time xx" The majority of the people close to me totally get it and don't question my decision...this person is part of a small minority of people I know. I do, however get the same response and horror from relative strangers at times, I couldn't care less what they have to say tbh. Just think it's shitty to comment on someone else's choice or Pl be so patronising as to say "you'll regret it" or "you wait, you'll change your mind". | |||
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"Ugh. Preach. I've had my medical care compromised because I don't want kids. " Happens all too often! | |||
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"Some people have very little bubbles that they can't see outside of their own life and thoughts. Pity them and realise that they are at capacity with empathy. Your life will naturally progress and you will attract more like-minded people in time xx The majority of the people close to me totally get it and don't question my decision...this person is part of a small minority of people I know. I do, however get the same response and horror from relative strangers at times, I couldn't care less what they have to say tbh. Just think it's shitty to comment on someone else's choice or Pl be so patronising as to say "you'll regret it" or "you wait, you'll change your mind"." I've had it for years, I'm now 42 so people have accepted it. Sometimes I'm nice, other times I'm a bitch about it. Ultimately it is more about them than you x | |||
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"You need more sensitive friends! It’s not an uncommon life choice any more." She's not someone I really see or speak to much these days (due to her past comments about my mental health). She is an exception. My friends are mostly wonderful humans ![]() | |||
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"She sounds toxic if she had bad comments about something like your mental health. Good to hear she us the exception though we all deserve good people in our lives." This is why I don't really see or speak to her much these days.... I don't think she's a bad person, just ignorant. I gave her a piece of my mind this morning so it'll probably be a while before she pops up again. | |||
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"I need to have a rant... Why is it so hard for some people to accept that I won't be having children?! I was chatting to a friend this morning and she was asking when myself and my fella are going to have kids, not IF, WHEN! When I told her we most definitely weren't she almost squealed in shock and bombarded me with questions of why? And repeatedly told me I'd regret my decision. Now, this isn't a decision I've taken lightly...I'm 30, up to the age of 26, I'd had 14 miscarriages. My ex and I tried to have a baby for almost 4 years! I was eventually told that I would probably never carry full term. I accepted this and decided that if I still wanted kids in my 30s, I'd adopt or foster. Fast forward to now and I want and have a completely different lifestyle and kids just wouldn't and fit into it. I genuinely don't want to have children now, and haven't for at least the past 4 years! Im now in a great relationship of 3 years (so far) with a wonderful man who is 48, and not remotely interested in kids either. Why can some people not just accept that some women (people) don't want kids?! Why do they feel it's ok to question you or belittle your decision?! As much as I'm sure I've made the right choice for me, miscarriage is horrible, and not something I want to keep reliving and having to talk about. And breathe....rant over. I feel better now ![]() Sorry about the miscarriages but it is your body and your choice. | |||
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"And I think that friend needs to go. I can't be doing with people in my life who aren't there because I'm me ![]() I'm inclined to agree at this point ![]() | |||
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"I find the subject tends to be brought up when someone says they've been up all night as child crying etc....and I mention what a great lay in was had lol Enjoy the benefits! " Oh I do! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I so often get people telling me who I owe children to. If they want to go through pregnancy and raise children, they can knock themselves out. Anyone who feels that my womb owes them anything can take a long walk off a short pier. " Totally agree! It's a personal choice! | |||
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"I find the subject tends to be brought up when someone says they've been up all night as child crying etc....and I mention what a great lay in was had lol Enjoy the benefits! " I think it's different for men and women. Tbh, I find it mostly comes up when I have health problems. (I won't be able to be so selfish when I have a baby!) | |||
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"You need more sensitive friends! It’s not an uncommon life choice any more. She's not someone I really see or speak to much these days (due to her past comments about my mental health). She is an exception. My friends are mostly wonderful humans ![]() You make her sound a delight, lol! | |||
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"You need more sensitive friends! It’s not an uncommon life choice any more. She's not someone I really see or speak to much these days (due to her past comments about my mental health). She is an exception. My friends are mostly wonderful humans ![]() She can be a lot of fun...but is completely ignorant to anything she's not experienced. I've distanced myself from her in a big way over the past few years. Her comments today have reminded me why. I think it's time I left our friendship behind. | |||
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"Oh. And the last time I encountered a gynaecologist (sigh), he asked the usual question of how many pregnancies, miscarriages, and births I've had. None. He asked if I was a virgin ![]() Ffs...sounds like a cracking gyno! | |||
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"Oh. And the last time I encountered a gynaecologist (sigh), he asked the usual question of how many pregnancies, miscarriages, and births I've had. None. He asked if I was a virgin ![]() I have worse stories. I don't feel like sharing today. | |||
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"I need to have a rant... Why is it so hard for some people to accept that I won't be having children?! I was chatting to a friend this morning and she was asking when myself and my fella are going to have kids, not IF, WHEN! When I told her we most definitely weren't she almost squealed in shock and bombarded me with questions of why? And repeatedly told me I'd regret my decision. Now, this isn't a decision I've taken lightly...I'm 30, up to the age of 26, I'd had 14 miscarriages. My ex and I tried to have a baby for almost 4 years! I was eventually told that I would probably never carry full term. I accepted this and decided that if I still wanted kids in my 30s, I'd adopt or foster. Fast forward to now and I want and have a completely different lifestyle and kids just wouldn't and fit into it. I genuinely don't want to have children now, and haven't for at least the past 4 years! Im now in a great relationship of 3 years (so far) with a wonderful man who is 48, and not remotely interested in kids either. Why can some people not just accept that some women (people) don't want kids?! Why do they feel it's ok to question you or belittle your decision?! As much as I'm sure I've made the right choice for me, miscarriage is horrible, and not something I want to keep reliving and having to talk about. And breathe....rant over. I feel better now ![]() I don't think people mean anything by it, it's just the "normal" order of things. That said, I understand fully where you're coming from. My sister and her husband never wanted biological children of their own as they felt there were children that needed adopting. As she lives in Italy and in a mixed race marriage the chance of adopting a mixed race child was almost zero. Add to that, because adoption is seen as a last resort they had to undergo psychiatric evaluation for a year before being able to adopt and they had to travel to Brazil to do it. The powers that be couldn't understand a couple not wanting to have their own children. I have three daughters and often ask didn't you want to try for a son? I had a son, he died. People don't think about what they say. | |||
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"There is a BIG difference in not wanting and not be able to have children. I have 2 beautiful boys and I never regret having them. My brother and his wife wants children very much,but they can't have them,for the same reason. I just think that people are judgemental on this topic,just because they don't understand the the frustration and disappointment if that never happened to someone close to them..." Definitely a big difference, after being told I probably couldn't I decided I didn't want to pursue that path anyway. It didn't and doesn't make what I went through with miscarriages any easier though. At the time, I wanted those babies. I totally sympathise with those desperate to have children that can't, it's truly heartbreaking. | |||
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"I need to have a rant... Why is it so hard for some people to accept that I won't be having children?! I was chatting to a friend this morning and she was asking when myself and my fella are going to have kids, not IF, WHEN! When I told her we most definitely weren't she almost squealed in shock and bombarded me with questions of why? And repeatedly told me I'd regret my decision. Now, this isn't a decision I've taken lightly...I'm 30, up to the age of 26, I'd had 14 miscarriages. My ex and I tried to have a baby for almost 4 years! I was eventually told that I would probably never carry full term. I accepted this and decided that if I still wanted kids in my 30s, I'd adopt or foster. Fast forward to now and I want and have a completely different lifestyle and kids just wouldn't and fit into it. I genuinely don't want to have children now, and haven't for at least the past 4 years! Im now in a great relationship of 3 years (so far) with a wonderful man who is 48, and not remotely interested in kids either. Why can some people not just accept that some women (people) don't want kids?! Why do they feel it's ok to question you or belittle your decision?! As much as I'm sure I've made the right choice for me, miscarriage is horrible, and not something I want to keep reliving and having to talk about. And breathe....rant over. I feel better now ![]() I'm so sorry for your loss ![]() | |||
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"It must be so frustrating when people treat you like an idiot. But you have to remember it's their own perceptions and ignorance on things, nothing to do with you. You have made the right decision for YOU and that's all that matters. YOU are happy so it's got fuck all else to do with anyone else. It must have been so traumatic for you... I've experienced one miscarriage and that was hurrendous enough. But so pleased you've found happiness!! Big squidgy hugs gorgeous xxx" Thank you sweetie! ![]() | |||
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"i could never bring it up in conversation, some people could have some terrible reasons for not having kids like the op with so many miscarriages so that’s never going to be a good conversation to have especially if it’s not a really close person, none of my business all fair if they wish to talk about it but I’d never ask that question myself. " I wouldn't either,but my sister-in-law complains all the time about the pricks at work who are giving her hard time about that. Some people are brainless!! | |||
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"Some people just don't think. I was an older first time mother and a woman at the ante-natal class I attended who knew me said "I'm so glad you're pregnant, you must have been desperate" ![]() ![]() I had this too being an older mum. Made me laugh when I saw “geriatric” stamped across my NHS folder... ![]() | |||
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"I knew from an early age that I never wanted children, no medical reason, I just didn't want a lifestyle that involved children. And I've never regretted that decision. I also used to get a lot of people saying I'd change my mind, or I'd regret that choice when I was old and lonely ![]() I've tried that tack. I get called a monster. ![]() | |||
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"Some people just don't think. I was an older first time mother and a woman at the ante-natal class I attended who knew me said "I'm so glad you're pregnant, you must have been desperate" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I knew from an early age that I never wanted children, no medical reason, I just didn't want a lifestyle that involved children. And I've never regretted that decision. I also used to get a lot of people saying I'd change my mind, or I'd regret that choice when I was old and lonely ![]() ![]() I get that too...I just do a slightly maniacal laugh and advise them never to bring their children near me ![]() | |||
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"I need to have a rant... Why is it so hard for some people to accept that I won't be having children?! I was chatting to a friend this morning and she was asking when myself and my fella are going to have kids, not IF, WHEN! When I told her we most definitely weren't she almost squealed in shock and bombarded me with questions of why? And repeatedly told me I'd regret my decision. Now, this isn't a decision I've taken lightly...I'm 30, up to the age of 26, I'd had 14 miscarriages. My ex and I tried to have a baby for almost 4 years! I was eventually told that I would probably never carry full term. I accepted this and decided that if I still wanted kids in my 30s, I'd adopt or foster. Fast forward to now and I want and have a completely different lifestyle and kids just wouldn't and fit into it. I genuinely don't want to have children now, and haven't for at least the past 4 years! Im now in a great relationship of 3 years (so far) with a wonderful man who is 48, and not remotely interested in kids either. Why can some people not just accept that some women (people) don't want kids?! Why do they feel it's ok to question you or belittle your decision?! As much as I'm sure I've made the right choice for me, miscarriage is horrible, and not something I want to keep reliving and having to talk about. And breathe....rant over. I feel better now ![]() Hi op! Firstly - huge hugs! I’m really sorry it took something that must’ve been totally harrowing for you for you to come to the decision you’ve made. I’m also pleased that you’ve come to this decision because it fits in with the ‘new’ life you’ve chosen and not purely because you got tired of the hurt (which in itself was enough of a reason!) As has been said before on the thread - sadly society seems (to the majority of people in said society) to be about conforming - and if you don’t do that then society will raise its eyebrows at you! We all come across people every day who (it seems) had their kids purely to conform - who make adequate parents at best - and often seem resentful of the amazing gift they were given! There are far too many kids out there who don’t receive enough love, care and attention! Remember though that this is a decision you’ve made now, at the still-Young age of 30! You have every right to stick to that decision - but also the right to change it in future if it suits you! Sending hugs! | |||
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"I suspect when people say things like this, they're probably just in a kind of thoughtless convo mode, words can be hurtful or annoying but often the chatters are well meaning and don't know the back story" ![]() | |||
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"I used to get asked why I wasn't interested in having kids ,as if it was compulsory. Some people just can't accept others life choices ,always knew from a young age I didn't want children,but kept been told I'd change my mind.I never did,you do what's right for you and ignore these type of people. Miss" Exactly. Some people can't accept that you are following a different path from them and they clearly don't think before they speak. I always knew I didn't want children and I don't regret it either. There are more people that regret having children than the ones that choose not to. It's a " mistake " you can never take back. | |||
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"Good for you. So many people have kids because it's expected when they really didn't want them. Doesn't make for happy parents or stable children!!! " ![]() | |||
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