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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I read an interesting book about it and I agree with it ranging from diabetes to cancer that sugar is in the most cases the root cause of it as the cells is feeding from it and getting more aggressive the more sugar you eat, he also said that the western food doesnt help with all the sugar it contains, he concluded that by cutting out sugar, not all but alot would help reduce the risk and even reverse the cancer, what is your view?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Keto all the way x

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Old news. I believe it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think this is complicated and contentious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You read/watch a lot of interesting things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd be interested in reading the book.

What is the title please?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I read an interesting book about it and I agree with it ranging from diabetes to cancer that sugar is in the most cases the root cause of it as the cells is feeding from it and getting more aggressive the more sugar you eat, he also said that the western food doesnt help with all the sugar it contains, he concluded that by cutting out sugar, not all but alot would help reduce the risk and even reverse the cancer, what is your view?"

But it tastes so sweet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So many things are said to cause cancer and other illnesses these days.

I just try to eat as healthily as possible and have a treat when I want one, it would be bloody miserable to be worrying about every morsel of food I shove in my gob.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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I’m sure it’s pretty much correct however someone will be along in a second complaining that they will miss their 17 teaspoons of sugar in their flavoured water and why should they miss out because overweight people have no control. It’s the way these conversations always go unfortunately.

Sugar is clearly not the best thing for us.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I'd be interested in reading the book.

What is the title please? "

Just read reliable sites on the net. Then make your own mind up.

I wrote a paper on the food industry years ago.

You are nothing but a consumer of cheap products the effects of which no one gives a fuck about .......

See your supermarket shelves in your minds eye. How much of the food is REAL food ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And aspartame isn't good, our bodies don't recognise it and therefore can't metabolise. Another free radical to worry about

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places

Agree with you entirely Shag.

Just look at the sugary / sweet aisles of your typical Asda store (including the breakfast cereal area) and the demographic of consumer these particular aisles attract...

It's all very Jeremy Kyle Show

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd be interested in reading the book.

What is the title please?

Just read reliable sites on the net. Then make your own mind up.

I wrote a paper on the food industry years ago.

You are nothing but a consumer of cheap products the effects of which no one gives a fuck about .......

See your supermarket shelves in your minds eye. How much of the food is REAL food ?"
That is right too, the book is called sugar blues.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Keto all the way x"
Yes, keto is very good as its low carbs too.

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By *hrobbermanMan
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

I have four spoons of sugar in my tea but I don't stir it as it makes it too sweet.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Agree with you entirely Shag.

Just look at the sugary / sweet aisles of your typical Asda store (including the breakfast cereal area) and the demographic of consumer these particular aisles attract...

It's all very Jeremy Kyle Show "
That is right and those aisles is at the front of the shop and the healhy bits are at the back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd be interested in reading the book.

What is the title please?

Just read reliable sites on the net. Then make your own mind up.

I wrote a paper on the food industry years ago.

You are nothing but a consumer of cheap products the effects of which no one gives a fuck about .......

See your supermarket shelves in your minds eye. How much of the food is REAL food ?That is right too, the book is called sugar blues."

Thank you. I will look it up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think food these days is not what it was back when people like my Nan were young.

She’s 91 years old, she uses white & brown sugar, sprinkles sugar on her fruit & has copious amounts of tea everyday with two sugars. Never had cancer, or any serious illness, still I wish she would calm down with the sugar!

My Nan is in great health for her, she only takes Folic Acid & Vitamin D. She hates all that “low sugar, no added sugar” stuff and buys full fat/sugar. Although that is not to say that someone of the same age, doing the same thing won’t be ill or get cancer.

I do think in this day and age a lot of things we eat are the cause for bad health, illnesses etc.

I don’t drink hot drinks so I very rarely have sugar. I use sweetener without aspartame in, I like Stevia, and I only ever use that for my homemade sorbets or in pancakes.

My weakness is fried food!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"See your supermarket shelves in your minds eye. How much of the food is REAL food ?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's a good replacement for sugar then.what if we chew on sugar cane is that still bad for us

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Keto all the way x"

My research leads me to reason

Many people do eat far too much refined or high glycemic load carbohydrate too often

However for most humans ketogenic is far to extreme, and needless for positive health benefits, if not intensely understood I'd suggest could be potentially counterproductive

Depending upon activity level , about 200-700 net , mid glycemic carbs from a variety of food sources should provide optimum, fuelling and nutrition

As noted in an above post , the subject can be complex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Keto all the way x"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Keto all the way x

My research leads me to reason

Many people do eat far too much refined or high glycemic load carbohydrate too often

However for most humans ketogenic is far to extreme, and needless for positive health benefits, if not intensely understood I'd suggest could be potentially counterproductive

Depending upon activity level , about 200-700 net , mid glycemic carbs from a variety of food sources should provide optimum, fuelling and nutrition

As noted in an above post , the subject can be complex

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I’m really interested in Keto & would love to try it but I’ve read that a lot of fruits are off limits?

Is that so? That would be such a deal breaker for me!

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Keto all the way x

My research leads me to reason

Many people do eat far too much refined or high glycemic load carbohydrate too often

However for most humans ketogenic is far to extreme, and needless for positive health benefits, if not intensely understood I'd suggest could be potentially counterproductive

Depending upon activity level , about 200-700 net , mid glycemic carbs from a variety of food sources should provide optimum, fuelling and nutrition

As noted in an above post , the subject can be complex

I’m really interested in Keto & would love to try it but I’ve read that a lot of fruits are off limits?

Is that so? That would be such a deal breaker for me! "

Keto is extreme, and for the average human pointless or counterproductive

What is wrong with reaping all the benefits 150 grams of net carbs give

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Keto all the way x

My research leads me to reason

Many people do eat far too much refined or high glycemic load carbohydrate too often

However for most humans ketogenic is far to extreme, and needless for positive health benefits, if not intensely understood I'd suggest could be potentially counterproductive

Depending upon activity level , about 200-700 net , mid glycemic carbs from a variety of food sources should provide optimum, fuelling and nutrition

As noted in an above post , the subject can be complex

I’m really interested in Keto & would love to try it but I’ve read that a lot of fruits are off limits?

Is that so? That would be such a deal breaker for me! "

Whole Carbohydrate constraining foods can be nutrition power houses , and contain VITAL fiber , keto without knowledge and understanding can lead to bad nutrition and lack of fiber ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There’s defo something to be said about watching what you eat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Keto all the way x

My research leads me to reason

Many people do eat far too much refined or high glycemic load carbohydrate too often

However for most humans ketogenic is far to extreme, and needless for positive health benefits, if not intensely understood I'd suggest could be potentially counterproductive

Depending upon activity level , about 200-700 net , mid glycemic carbs from a variety of food sources should provide optimum, fuelling and nutrition

As noted in an above post , the subject can be complex

I’m really interested in Keto & would love to try it but I’ve read that a lot of fruits are off limits?

Is that so? That would be such a deal breaker for me!

Whole Carbohydrate constraining foods can be nutrition power houses , and contain VITAL fiber , keto without knowledge and understanding can lead to bad nutrition and lack of fiber ,"

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By *lceeWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"I'd be interested in reading the book.

What is the title please?

Just read reliable sites on the net. Then make your own mind up.

I wrote a paper on the food industry years ago.

You are nothing but a consumer of cheap products the effects of which no one gives a fuck about .......

See your supermarket shelves in your minds eye. How much of the food is REAL food ?"

I shop in my local farm shop...most of it has been grown, picked and slaughtered outside.

Don’t get me wrong...their jars of pic’n’mix are definitely synthetic but most of the food is ‘real’

On the topic of sugar, yeah it’s not good for you. It’s common knowledge. That’s why you should cook from fresh, make your own dressings etc.

On a related topic, Shag, you read The China Study? Comes to the same conclusions as this but for animal proteins.

Basically, a vegan, fresh, wholefood diet is better for us. We all know that now. But it’s not going to stop me having a slice of cheesecake every now and again. It’s all about being aware of what you’re putting in your body and practising moderation and balance.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I'd be interested in reading the book.

What is the title please?

Just read reliable sites on the net. Then make your own mind up.

I wrote a paper on the food industry years ago.

You are nothing but a consumer of cheap products the effects of which no one gives a fuck about .......

See your supermarket shelves in your minds eye. How much of the food is REAL food ?

I shop in my local farm shop...most of it has been grown, picked and slaughtered outside.

Don’t get me wrong...their jars of pic’n’mix are definitely synthetic but most of the food is ‘real’

On the topic of sugar, yeah it’s not good for you. It’s common knowledge. That’s why you should cook from fresh, make your own dressings etc.

On a related topic, Shag, you read The China Study? Comes to the same conclusions as this but for animal proteins.

Basically, a vegan, fresh, wholefood diet is better for us. We all know that now. But it’s not going to stop me having a slice of cheesecake every now and again. It’s all about being aware of what you’re putting in your body and practising moderation and balance."

Time and time again , the magic words , balance, moderation , awareness

It's the habitual , nonchalant over eating of sugar/refined,carbohydrates , or any macronutrients that generally causes health issues not the specific macro

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

Natural sugar from fruit is fine in moderation but the white refined stuff should be limited.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Keto all the way x

My research leads me to reason

Many people do eat far too much refined or high glycemic load carbohydrate too often

However for most humans ketogenic is far to extreme, and needless for positive health benefits, if not intensely understood I'd suggest could be potentially counterproductive

Depending upon activity level , about 200-700 net , mid glycemic carbs from a variety of food sources should provide optimum, fuelling and nutrition

As noted in an above post , the subject can be complex

I’m really interested in Keto & would love to try it but I’ve read that a lot of fruits are off limits?

Is that so? That would be such a deal breaker for me! "

May I ask why you are interested and would love to try , what is your goal?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most berries are OK in moderation

Keto only really works with intermittent fasting ie eat lunch and dinner between noon and say 6pm, then nothing apart from keto allowed drinks until noon the following day. No snacking and no cheating

After you get used to it - takes a few days for the sugar cravings to die down, it’s easy - you don’t feel hungry, energy is up and most of all, you don’t spend all day eating

Disciplined but worth it x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Keto all the way x

My research leads me to reason

Many people do eat far too much refined or high glycemic load carbohydrate too often

However for most humans ketogenic is far to extreme, and needless for positive health benefits, if not intensely understood I'd suggest could be potentially counterproductive

Depending upon activity level , about 200-700 net , mid glycemic carbs from a variety of food sources should provide optimum, fuelling and nutrition

As noted in an above post , the subject can be complex

I’m really interested in Keto & would love to try it but I’ve read that a lot of fruits are off limits?

Is that so? That would be such a deal breaker for me!

May I ask why you are interested and would love to try , what is your goal?"

For weight loss & the health benefits really!

I’m on a weight loss journey, 3 stone down so far, I don’t really have a goal number to lose, I just want to get slim & tone up!

My diet is the hardest part for me, exercise is easy as I am quite active in my job, and also go swimming a lot.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"I read an interesting book about it and I agree with it ranging from diabetes to cancer that sugar is in the most cases the root cause of it as the cells is feeding from it and getting more aggressive the more sugar you eat, he also said that the western food doesnt help with all the sugar it contains, he concluded that by cutting out sugar, not all but alot would help reduce the risk and even reverse the cancer, what is your view?"

...and all those carbs you eat Shag. It all gets turned not glucose.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"Most berries are OK in moderation

Keto only really works with intermittent fasting ie eat lunch and dinner between noon and say 6pm, then nothing apart from keto allowed drinks until noon the following day. No snacking and no cheating

After you get used to it - takes a few days for the sugar cravings to die down, it’s easy - you don’t feel hungry, energy is up and most of all, you don’t spend all day eating

Disciplined but worth it x"

I’m almost 11 years of low carb/keto and currently just carnivore.

Try the Diet Doctor and the Public Health Collaboration for excellent information based on GOOD research.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London


"I'd be interested in reading the book.

What is the title please?

Just read reliable sites on the net. Then make your own mind up.

I wrote a paper on the food industry years ago.

You are nothing but a consumer of cheap products the effects of which no one gives a fuck about .......

See your supermarket shelves in your minds eye. How much of the food is REAL food ?

I shop in my local farm shop...most of it has been grown, picked and slaughtered outside.

Don’t get me wrong...their jars of pic’n’mix are definitely synthetic but most of the food is ‘real’

On the topic of sugar, yeah it’s not good for you. It’s common knowledge. That’s why you should cook from fresh, make your own dressings etc.

On a related topic, Shag, you read The China Study? Comes to the same conclusions as this but for animal proteins.

Basically, a vegan, fresh, wholefood diet is better for us. We all know that now. But it’s not going to stop me having a slice of cheesecake every now and again. It’s all about being aware of what you’re putting in your body and practising moderation and balance."

Sadly, a vegan diet isn’t good for us at all. It’s a physiological fact that humans as a species need animal derived fats for health and longevity.

We are resilient bunch, let’s face it, most babies are fed skimmed milk fortified with seed oils and sugar and thrive but the damage at a cellular level is insidious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m sure some cancers are caused by sugar but I don’t believe all are. There are genetic factors too in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So many things are said to cause cancer and other illnesses these days.

I just try to eat as healthily as possible and have a treat when I want one, it would be bloody miserable to be worrying about every morsel of food I shove in my gob."

I could be run over by a bus tomorrow. So I'm eating cake.

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


"I read an interesting book about it "

Pseudoscience.

Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's true. In fact the dumbing down of science is down right scary.

The idea that cancer cells thrive on sugar has been around at least since the 1924 publication of Dr. Otto Warburg's paper, On Metabolism of Tumors. Warburg was a Nobel Prize-winning cell biologist who hypothesized that cancer growth was caused when cancer cells converted glucose into energy without using oxygen. This was an interesting assertion, in part because we know that healthy cells make energy by converting pyruvate and oxygen. The pyruvate is oxidized within a healthy cell's mitochondria. Since cancer cells don't oxidize pyruvate, Warburg thought cancer must be considered a mitochondrial dysfunction.

That's not how cancer works. Cancer is caused by genetic mutations, either inherited mutations, or those that are acquired over time through exposure to carcinogens or as a consequence of the normal metabolism of cells. Although healthy cells and cancer cells do convert their food to energy in different ways, that difference is an effect, not a cause, of cancer.

However, one of the elephants in the room when talking about sugar and cancer is obesity. Having a sweet tooth and consuming more sugar based foods is linked to obesity, and obesity is linked to cancer. Obesity alters hormone levels in the body which are associated with a greater risk of both developing cancer and having cancer recur or progress.

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By *ambornemanMan
over a year ago

In your town now

Oh my god who the hell cares about how much sugar you eat you are only here once on this planet and you mite as well just have fun

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"I read an interesting book about it

Pseudoscience.

Just because it's in a book doesn't mean it's true. In fact the dumbing down of science is down right scary.

The idea that cancer cells thrive on sugar has been around at least since the 1924 publication of Dr. Otto Warburg's paper, On Metabolism of Tumors. Warburg was a Nobel Prize-winning cell biologist who hypothesized that cancer growth was caused when cancer cells converted glucose into energy without using oxygen. This was an interesting assertion, in part because we know that healthy cells make energy by converting pyruvate and oxygen. The pyruvate is oxidized within a healthy cell's mitochondria. Since cancer cells don't oxidize pyruvate, Warburg thought cancer must be considered a mitochondrial dysfunction.

That's not how cancer works. Cancer is caused by genetic mutations, either inherited mutations, or those that are acquired over time through exposure to carcinogens or as a consequence of the normal metabolism of cells. Although healthy cells and cancer cells do convert their food to energy in different ways, that difference is an effect, not a cause, of cancer.

However, one of the elephants in the room when talking about sugar and cancer is obesity. Having a sweet tooth and consuming more sugar based foods is linked to obesity, and obesity is linked to cancer. Obesity alters hormone levels in the body which are associated with a greater risk of both developing cancer and having cancer recur or progress."

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Oh my god who the hell cares about how much sugar you eat you are only here once on this planet and you mite as well just have fun "

Would you apply that logic to crack cocaine???

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By *ambornemanMan
over a year ago

In your town now


"Oh my god who the hell cares about how much sugar you eat you are only here once on this planet and you mite as well just have fun

Would you apply that logic to crack cocaine??? "

No I don't think so

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Oh my god who the hell cares about how much sugar you eat you are only here once on this planet and you mite as well just have fun

Would you apply that logic to crack cocaine???

No I don't think so "

Why wouldn't you ?

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By *ambornemanMan
over a year ago

In your town now


"Oh my god who the hell cares about how much sugar you eat you are only here once on this planet and you mite as well just have fun

Would you apply that logic to crack cocaine???

No I don't think so

Why wouldn't you ?"
because crack cocaine is worse than sugar

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh my god who the hell cares about how much sugar you eat you are only here once on this planet and you mite as well just have fun

Would you apply that logic to crack cocaine???

No I don't think so

Why wouldn't you ? because crack cocaine is worse than sugar "

People get equally addicted to both.

They can both be detrimental to health.

Not that much worse in my opinion.

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By *ambornemanMan
over a year ago

In your town now


"Oh my god who the hell cares about how much sugar you eat you are only here once on this planet and you mite as well just have fun

Would you apply that logic to crack cocaine???

No I don't think so

Why wouldn't you ? because crack cocaine is worse than sugar

People get equally addicted to both.

They can both be detrimental to health.

Not that much worse in my opinion. "
how can sugar be worse than crack cocaine haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh my god who the hell cares about how much sugar you eat you are only here once on this planet and you mite as well just have fun

Would you apply that logic to crack cocaine???

No I don't think so

Why wouldn't you ? because crack cocaine is worse than sugar

People get equally addicted to both.

They can both be detrimental to health.

Not that much worse in my opinion. how can sugar be worse than crack cocaine haha "

Where did I say it was worse?

When I said “Not that much worse” I meant cocaine.

Both are substances people can get addicted to & they can be bad for your health.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics

I saw an Adam ruins everything episode on it showing how sugar is very bad for you

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By *ambornemanMan
over a year ago

In your town now


"Oh my god who the hell cares about how much sugar you eat you are only here once on this planet and you mite as well just have fun

Would you apply that logic to crack cocaine???

No I don't think so

Why wouldn't you ? because crack cocaine is worse than sugar

People get equally addicted to both.

They can both be detrimental to health.

Not that much worse in my opinion. how can sugar be worse than crack cocaine haha

Where did I say it was worse?

When I said “Not that much worse” I meant cocaine.

Both are substances people can get addicted to & they can be bad for your health. "
I think sugar is far better than cocaine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh my god who the hell cares about how much sugar you eat you are only here once on this planet and you mite as well just have fun

Would you apply that logic to crack cocaine???

No I don't think so

Why wouldn't you ? because crack cocaine is worse than sugar

People get equally addicted to both.

They can both be detrimental to health.

Not that much worse in my opinion. how can sugar be worse than crack cocaine haha

Where did I say it was worse?

When I said “Not that much worse” I meant cocaine.

Both are substances people can get addicted to & they can be bad for your health. I think sugar is far better than cocaine "

I don’t.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to save me from reading can someone confirm something for me?

Has this descended into a fat shaming thread yet?

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

Sugar does not cause diabetes, and has never been linked to causing diabetes, in fact keto diet will cause diabetes.

BBC even admitted as much, when they put someone on a sugar diet and someone on keto diet the one that had to be pulled off the diet because of diabetes concerns was the keto diet, not the sugar. The sugar bloods came back perfect, even olympic trainers looked at them and said they were what they looked for in their atheletes.

The goverment just wants a sugar tax.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Type 11 diabetes and obesity is absolutely linked to consuming too many carbs and sugar

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By *ambornemanMan
over a year ago

In your town now


"Oh my god who the hell cares about how much sugar you eat you are only here once on this planet and you mite as well just have fun

Would you apply that logic to crack cocaine???

No I don't think so

Why wouldn't you ? because crack cocaine is worse than sugar

People get equally addicted to both.

They can both be detrimental to health.

Not that much worse in my opinion. how can sugar be worse than crack cocaine haha

Where did I say it was worse?

When I said “Not that much worse” I meant cocaine.

Both are substances people can get addicted to & they can be bad for your health. I think sugar is far better than cocaine

I don’t. "
well I do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Type 11 diabetes and obesity is absolutely linked to consuming too many carbs and sugar

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do not follow my advice.

But the body sees food.

Whether it's sugar, protein or any other thing we care to eat

In the evening,it gets processed as fat whatever it's original composition.

But nobody needs excess sugar in a flipping drink!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Interesting points everyone

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