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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

So asking on here as it anonymous and people love giving feedback.

I have a work situation and Just trying to guage opinion before I go further.

I suffer from depression that my employer is aware of and I have already seen occy health about,so they are aware it was pre existing when they employed me. last year I had a week off because of it.(first time I have had to have time off for it for about 7 years)

Fast forward this year we had a new manager start a couple of months ago I unfortunately came down with an illness which caused me to have two days off.

Upon my return to work I had my return interview at which point I had a bit of a breakdown in front of manager due in part to some bad family news I had received that weekend.

Since then I feel like they are trying to force me out .

My workmanship and timekeeping are excellent and I have no disciplinary action ever.

Should I ask him if there's anything wrong and do they have an issue with me or leave it be?

Sorry there's lots more information that I don't really want to go into on a public forum just wanted to get unbiased opinion.

Thanks

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Are you a member of a Union ? If not you can join one and get representation if they do try and use your illness against you.

Look at your contract as well, often there are sections about illness and how your employer will support you, this is always dependent on how big the business is, and if they actually have a HR department.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

It seems to have become common practice for companies (especially larger ones) to do this. The incoming manager has no loyalties to any of those below them and will now see you as being a liability.

I work at a school and we got a new head about a year ago, in this time SIX members of teaching staff and three members of support staff have been through the self same thing. These people were all folk who had a few instances of sickness (mainly stress), and on their return found that their work-load was increased, they were under constant scrutiny, often they were being told that they were underperforming... all adding extra pressures until they went off sick again.

Once people were off sick, they would begin the process to negotiate a "package" to terminate their contracts.

Cal

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By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"So asking on here as it anonymous and people love giving feedback.

I have a work situation and Just trying to guage opinion before I go further.

I suffer from depression that my employer is aware of and I have already seen occy health about,so they are aware it was pre existing when they employed me. last year I had a week off because of it.(first time I have had to have time off for it for about 7 years)

Fast forward this year we had a new manager start a couple of months ago I unfortunately came down with an illness which caused me to have two days off.

Upon my return to work I had my return interview at which point I had a bit of a breakdown in front of manager due in part to some bad family news I had received that weekend.

Since then I feel like they are trying to force me out .

My workmanship and timekeeping are excellent and I have no disciplinary action ever.

Should I ask him if there's anything wrong and do they have an issue with me or leave it be?

Sorry there's lots more information that I don't really want to go into on a public forum just wanted to get unbiased opinion.

Thanks"

Join a Union quick!

Yes, I've seen this before and it probably is what you think it is. Log anything out the ordinary, especially log any witnessed events. It might die down and come to nothing or it might be a reason they use (time off for sickness) to harass you out a job.

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By *redjMan
over a year ago

gloucestershire

They have procedures to follow to be able to fire you official warnings, but if you constantly feel victimised monitor the situation and record events that happen, if your time keeping and attendance are good you’ll have very little to worry about, but i will say and this is from personal experience at times during your illness you will feel this way due to irrational thoughts going around in your head and it is not usually the case but we can’t help feeling that way, hope everything works it’s self out and your thought processes become more clear x

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

Can I ask you what makes you think that they're trying to get rid of you?

Dismissal on grounds of illness, especially mental health would be grounds for a tribunal and if you feel that they're trying to get rid of you then that could constitute constructive dismissal. Keep a log of things said to you by management and ways that you're treated differently by them.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

Definitely join a union and find out if you have a union rep in your company .....if so have a chat with your rep if not get joining the union and give them a ring, invaluable at times like these OP they work for you not the management.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As above but also phone ACAS for advice if things get worse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would suggest familiarising yourself with the 1996 Employment rights act.

Your employer should be extremely familiar with this legislation as, from the sounds of things, they could actually find themselves in very hot water if they're not careful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe a new start would be a good idea, ask them straight if they are trying to force you out, tell them that's fine and you'll go but in the mean time youll need some flexibility to attend interviews and the like as you find a new job

Everyone's happy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I ask you what makes you think that they're trying to get rid of you?

Dismissal on grounds of illness, especially mental health would be grounds for a tribunal and if you feel that they're trying to get rid of you then that could constitute constructive dismissal. Keep a log of things said to you by management and ways that you're treated differently by them. "

plus as others have mentioned, join a union

Check the company’s policies and procedures, maybe they have health surveillance? depending on what industry you are in

D.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot


"Can I ask you what makes you think that they're trying to get rid of you?

Dismissal on grounds of illness, especially mental health would be grounds for a tribunal and if you feel that they're trying to get rid of you then that could constitute constructive dismissal. Keep a log of things said to you by management and ways that you're treated differently by them. "

This. ^

Also, is there anyone above your new manager you could speak to and ask if they're happy with you?

Someone who's familiar with your history could be more sympathetic to your situation.

You don't have to mention the way you feel the new boss is treating you. Although of course that may well tip them off and give them a chance to "educate" him.

Hope that helps.

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By *xelf787Man
over a year ago

Chorlton, Manchester

If you have a HR dept ask for a meeting with them, let them know how you feel and they will advise if you need a meeting with manager or they can speak on your behalf.

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By *mm and HerCouple
over a year ago

Hertfordshire

One thought - when you're down, you're down and it's hard to see and think clearly. Do you have a work colleague you can confide in? And ask them whether they're seeing the same as you are? I know that sometimes I can get myself in a loop and need to get someone else to help me figure the difference between what I think and what I know.

But talking is definitely key. Good luck x

Hmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So asking on here as it anonymous and people love giving feedback.

I have a work situation and Just trying to guage opinion before I go further.

I suffer from depression that my employer is aware of and I have already seen occy health about,so they are aware it was pre existing when they employed me. last year I had a week off because of it.(first time I have had to have time off for it for about 7 years)

Fast forward this year we had a new manager start a couple of months ago I unfortunately came down with an illness which caused me to have two days off.

Upon my return to work I had my return interview at which point I had a bit of a breakdown in front of manager due in part to some bad family news I had received that weekend.

Since then I feel like they are trying to force me out .

My workmanship and timekeeping are excellent and I have no disciplinary action ever.

Should I ask him if there's anything wrong and do they have an issue with me or leave it be?

Sorry there's lots more information that I don't really want to go into on a public forum just wanted to get unbiased opinion.

Thanks"

In what way are they trying to forve you out?

2 incidents adding up to more than 40ish hours off will usualy trigger the first stage of a sickness progress so that would be normal.

You've not really given the info thats relevant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I ask you what makes you think that they're trying to get rid of you?

Dismissal on grounds of illness, especially mental health would be grounds for a tribunal and if you feel that they're trying to get rid of you then that could constitute constructive dismissal. Keep a log of things said to you by management and ways that you're treated differently by them. "

You can 100% be fired for sickness but it takes multiple instances or being deemed incapable of performing your duties

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By *uckslut and MCouple
over a year ago

Poole


"So asking on here as it anonymous and people love giving feedback.

I have a work situation and Just trying to guage opinion before I go further.

I suffer from depression that my employer is aware of and I have already seen occy health about,so they are aware it was pre existing when they employed me. last year I had a week off because of it.(first time I have had to have time off for it for about 7 years)

Fast forward this year we had a new manager start a couple of months ago I unfortunately came down with an illness which caused me to have two days off.

Upon my return to work I had my return interview at which point I had a bit of a breakdown in front of manager due in part to some bad family news I had received that weekend.

Since then I feel like they are trying to force me out .

My workmanship and timekeeping are excellent and I have no disciplinary action ever.

Should I ask him if there's anything wrong and do they have an issue with me or leave it be?

Sorry there's lots more information that I don't really want to go into on a public forum just wanted to get unbiased opinion.

Thanks"

Construtive dismissal is breaking the Law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh as for the union comments nearly all have clauses regarding pre-existing issues to stop people joining when they have a problem.

The large ones though usualy offer 1 case of support for non members

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

If you started breaking down at the interview it could just be shock that you was seeing and I know you probably feel judged but this can sometimes happen many people just don’t know how to act in cases like this and you might have felt they didn’t help in that situation

Don’t act hasty, by all means join a union that’s always a good thing anyway but just try to put it to the back of your mind as long as you have explained about your depression that’s all you need to do, relax deep breath and just take it Day by day, make sure you have the help you need to cope with your depression

Do you usually enjoy your job? If you do hang in there and don’t worry

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

I'm not sure about the labour system in the UK/Europe but most of the opinions are views from employees but none from the manager view points.

I'm sure he is also under similar stress to keep the company productive and as someone new, I'm sure he will scrutinise everybody.

If this is in my local working culture, I would suggest you to meet the manager, tell him your issues and ask his opinion and advice.

This will make him aware of your situation as well as showing him your willingness to still be a part of his team. You offer him respect and hopefully he will reciprocate and be more understanding.

Not sure if it will work in your environment where the impression that I get is one vs another, fight and sue rather than being in the same team.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh as for the union comments nearly all have clauses regarding pre-existing issues to stop people joining when they have a problem.

The large ones though usualy offer 1 case of support for non members"

Very true

The sooner you start paying them, the better.

D.

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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Thanks for all your input everyone.

I am in the union have been for a few months.

As for why do I think they are forcing me out.

Since starting they have always treated me slightly different to the others as one of the girl's in the office took an instant dislike to me from day 2 on the job even tho I hadn't done anything wrong since then I have always felt like an outsider.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thanks for all your input everyone.

I am in the union have been for a few months.

As for why do I think they are forcing me out.

Since starting they have always treated me slightly different to the others as one of the girl's in the office took an instant dislike to me from day 2 on the job even tho I hadn't done anything wrong since then I have always felt like an outsider."

You havent said anything there about why you feel theyre forcing you out.

Whats differnt now than it was before this happened.

If it goes to tribunal you will have to be able to be very specific about this stuff.

So and so disliked me or i feel pike an outsider is going ro be meaningless (if it wa pre-existing before the sickness too its not going to help your case).

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Thanks for all your input everyone.

I am in the union have been for a few months.

As for why do I think they are forcing me out.

Since starting they have always treated me slightly different to the others as one of the girl's in the office took an instant dislike to me from day 2 on the job even tho I hadn't done anything wrong since then I have always felt like an outsider."

From personal experience organisations do great people differently sometimes in an effort to encourage them to leave. However unless I'm mistaken you're now saying that there have been some issues since day one.

Without being harsh I think it would be useful to clarify in your mind what exactly is going on here and to differentiate one woman's personal dislike of you from corporate action to get you to leave. Would it help to write things down then go through them with someone who can see things a bit more clearly? You can then sort out who to approach about each problem and take it from there.

Good luck

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