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"Like someone said before it’s not illegal. Only soliciting and brothels are. But yes totally should all be legalised and regulated. " You just want to be able to claim me on company expenses  | |||
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"Like someone said before it’s not illegal. Only soliciting and brothels are. But yes totally should all be legalised and regulated. You just want to be able to claim me on company expenses " | |||
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"I agree too, I’d much prefer if the women had some protection that’s not provided by a gangland thug" I think no matter what you will always get a top and bottom end of market. Maybe it will move it generally a bit more upmarket but there will still be people at the bottom exploiting and hurting men and women in grotty, dirty, dingy places. Not much else to say about it really is there. Much the same a legalising recreational drugs. It will have benefits for some but there will definitely be losers. | |||
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"No it’s disgusting and dispicable paying for sex !! Mind you it’s even worse in here it’s free: meaningless sexual gratification with strangers!! Doesn’t anyone respect themselves nowadays " Ironic | |||
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"Yes definitely, for the protection and safety of the sex workers." Like they do in some European countries.the reality is just more brutal pumps and trafficked women | |||
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"No.just more poor trafficked women rather than pretty woman fantasies" Human trafficking is more prominent because prostitution is illegal. If it's legalised it can be monitored more easily. Not all prostitutes want some rich bloke to sweep them off their feet...many do it purely because they enjoy lots of sex and the money's good! | |||
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"No.just more poor trafficked women rather than pretty woman fantasies" Wouldnt legalisation.. checks.. health checks all that kind of stuff make that harder | |||
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"No.just more poor trafficked women rather than pretty woman fantasies Wouldnt legalisation.. checks.. health checks all that kind of stuff make that harder" Yes it would, there will always be some who slip through the net, though, but it can only be a good thing. | |||
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"Bbut the reality is it doesn't Women in the red light districts of the Netherlands and Germany are often trafficked and controlled by brutal pumps.same as here but just confirmed by their societies" So it shouldn't be legalised because it wouldn't benefit everyone?! Human trafficking and asshole pimps will always exist. Legalisation of sex work makes it harder for these assholes to operate. And easier for the women being abused to report crimes. Surely helping keep some safer is better than none? | |||
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"Bbut the reality is it doesn't Women in the red light districts of the Netherlands and Germany are often trafficked and controlled by brutal pumps.same as here but just confirmed by their societies So it shouldn't be legalised because it wouldn't benefit everyone?! Human trafficking and asshole pimps will always exist. Legalisation of sex work makes it harder for these assholes to operate. And easier for the women being abused to report crimes. Surely helping keep some safer is better than none? " Exactly this  | |||
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"Like someone said before it’s not illegal. Only soliciting and brothels are. But yes totally should all be legalised and regulated. " ?? | |||
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"No it’s disgusting and dispicable paying for sex !! Mind you it’s even worse in here it’s free: meaningless sexual gratification with strangers!! Doesn’t anyone respect themselves nowadays Ironic "Beat me to it | |||
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"If it’s legal, why would trafficking exist? Florists are legal and you never hear of an 18 year old being brought in from Eastern Europe because she’ll do a chrysanthemum bouquet like nobody else" How many women want to sell sex against men who want to buy sex? The disparity would be huge, therefore supply and demand means prices will rise. Once prices rise above what a lot of men can afford, the temptation is to then bring coerced women in to supply that trade. We’re back to square one. | |||
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" Florists are legal and you never hear of an 18 year old being brought in from Eastern Europe because she’ll do a chrysanthemum bouquet like nobody else" I just spat out my coffee! | |||
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"If it’s legal, why would trafficking exist? Florists are legal and you never hear of an 18 year old being brought in from Eastern Europe because she’ll do a chrysanthemum bouquet like nobody else" This influx of Eastern Europe florist needs to be quickly quelled in my opinion. | |||
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"Bbut the reality is it doesn't Women in the red light districts of the Netherlands and Germany are often trafficked and controlled by brutal pumps.same as here but just confirmed by their societies So it shouldn't be legalised because it wouldn't benefit everyone?! Human trafficking and asshole pimps will always exist. Legalisation of sex work makes it harder for these assholes to operate. And easier for the women being abused to report crimes. Surely helping keep some safer is better than none? " Amen | |||
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"No it’s disgusting and dispicable paying for sex !! Mind you it’s even worse in here it’s free: meaningless sexual gratification with strangers!! Doesn’t anyone respect themselves nowadays " Why is it disgusting and despicable to pay for sex? People have needs, some of them want their needs met specifically rather than joining sites like this & having to play the long game. Paying for sex, or being paid for sex doesn’t mean you don’t respect yourself. That’s a very outdated view in my opinion. | |||
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"No it’s disgusting and dispicable paying for sex !! Mind you it’s even worse in here it’s free: meaningless sexual gratification with strangers!! Doesn’t anyone respect themselves nowadays Why is it disgusting and despicable to pay for sex? People have needs, some of them want their needs met specifically rather than joining sites like this & having to play the long game. Paying for sex, or being paid for sex doesn’t mean you don’t respect yourself. That’s a very outdated view in my opinion. " Indeed. I've never paid for a prostitute but I would at least want value for money and a receipt. | |||
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"No it’s disgusting and dispicable paying for sex !! Mind you it’s even worse in here it’s free: meaningless sexual gratification with strangers!! Doesn’t anyone respect themselves nowadays Why is it disgusting and despicable to pay for sex? People have needs, some of them want their needs met specifically rather than joining sites like this & having to play the long game. Paying for sex, or being paid for sex doesn’t mean you don’t respect yourself. That’s a very outdated view in my opinion. " I think that comment was tongue in cheek. Although I could be wrong | |||
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"If it’s legal, why would trafficking exist? Florists are legal and you never hear of an 18 year old being brought in from Eastern Europe because she’ll do a chrysanthemum bouquet like nobody else How many women want to sell sex against men who want to buy sex? The disparity would be huge, therefore supply and demand means prices will rise. Once prices rise above what a lot of men can afford, the temptation is to then bring coerced women in to supply that trade. We’re back to square one. " That’s one possible scenario, but not certain. Another scenario is that customers don’t want to go with the illegal ones where there’s always a chance that the thug with a knife will be behind the door and so they just won’t get the customers. No system is guaranteed to work of course, but doing almost anything is better than doing nothing I think | |||
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"If it’s legal, why would trafficking exist? Florists are legal and you never hear of an 18 year old being brought in from Eastern Europe because she’ll do a chrysanthemum bouquet like nobody else How many women want to sell sex against men who want to buy sex? The disparity would be huge, therefore supply and demand means prices will rise. Once prices rise above what a lot of men can afford, the temptation is to then bring coerced women in to supply that trade. We’re back to square one. That’s one possible scenario, but not certain. Another scenario is that customers don’t want to go with the illegal ones where there’s always a chance that the thug with a knife will be behind the door and so they just won’t get the customers. No system is guaranteed to work of course, but doing almost anything is better than doing nothing I think " Loads of legal brothels in Europe already and I believe they work quite well, I think they should crack down harder on the illegal ones if they would adopt this approach | |||
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"If it’s legal, why would trafficking exist? Florists are legal and you never hear of an 18 year old being brought in from Eastern Europe because she’ll do a chrysanthemum bouquet like nobody else How many women want to sell sex against men who want to buy sex? The disparity would be huge, therefore supply and demand means prices will rise. Once prices rise above what a lot of men can afford, the temptation is to then bring coerced women in to supply that trade. We’re back to square one. That’s one possible scenario, but not certain. Another scenario is that customers don’t want to go with the illegal ones where there’s always a chance that the thug with a knife will be behind the door and so they just won’t get the customers. No system is guaranteed to work of course, but doing almost anything is better than doing nothing I think " I think we see here often enough that an erect prick doesn’t have much of a conscience. A lot of the girls (streetwalkers) are on drugs. Nobody is going to employ those in a regulated brothel. Along with the price problem, it’s a mix with an obvious outcome. I think if you legalise the temptation is for government and agencies like the police to think “job done” and withdraw support for the illegal workers. The law should target the punters not the girls. Cut off demand and supply dwindles. | |||
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"If it’s legal, why would trafficking exist? Florists are legal and you never hear of an 18 year old being brought in from Eastern Europe because she’ll do a chrysanthemum bouquet like nobody else How many women want to sell sex against men who want to buy sex? The disparity would be huge, therefore supply and demand means prices will rise. Once prices rise above what a lot of men can afford, the temptation is to then bring coerced women in to supply that trade. We’re back to square one. That’s one possible scenario, but not certain. Another scenario is that customers don’t want to go with the illegal ones where there’s always a chance that the thug with a knife will be behind the door and so they just won’t get the customers. No system is guaranteed to work of course, but doing almost anything is better than doing nothing I think I think we see here often enough that an erect prick doesn’t have much of a conscience. A lot of the girls (streetwalkers) are on drugs. Nobody is going to employ those in a regulated brothel. Along with the price problem, it’s a mix with an obvious outcome. I think if you legalise the temptation is for government and agencies like the police to think “job done” and withdraw support for the illegal workers. The law should target the punters not the girls. Cut off demand and supply dwindles. " I remember when they was tough on curb crawling, never hear of it now, don’t see the girls on the street like we used to either | |||
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"If it’s legal, why would trafficking exist? Florists are legal and you never hear of an 18 year old being brought in from Eastern Europe because she’ll do a chrysanthemum bouquet like nobody else How many women want to sell sex against men who want to buy sex? The disparity would be huge, therefore supply and demand means prices will rise. Once prices rise above what a lot of men can afford, the temptation is to then bring coerced women in to supply that trade. We’re back to square one. That’s one possible scenario, but not certain. Another scenario is that customers don’t want to go with the illegal ones where there’s always a chance that the thug with a knife will be behind the door and so they just won’t get the customers. No system is guaranteed to work of course, but doing almost anything is better than doing nothing I think I think we see here often enough that an erect prick doesn’t have much of a conscience. A lot of the girls (streetwalkers) are on drugs. Nobody is going to employ those in a regulated brothel. Along with the price problem, it’s a mix with an obvious outcome. I think if you legalise the temptation is for government and agencies like the police to think “job done” and withdraw support for the illegal workers. The law should target the punters not the girls. Cut off demand and supply dwindles. I remember when they was tough on curb crawling, never hear of it now, don’t see the girls on the street like we used to either " There used to be a red light district in Kent. Used to be 20 odd girls each night. About 10 years ago they put up ANPR cameras and started writing to owners of cars that had triggered the cameras a few times in a night. I imagine a few takeaway delivery guys got a shock! Now you might see one or two girls, but usually none at all. The area is so much nicer too. | |||
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"prostitution added £10bn to the uk gdp in 2018. government would love to legalise, or rather the tax man would. don't get hysterical about gangs etc, most 'ladies' are independent, very discreet and run themselves in a very professional manner." If they’re running themselves in a professional manner, then they’re already paying tax. | |||
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"But how would you see legalisation being implemented properly? I can't see a British government having the common sense to do it safely, they would leave gaping loopholes that would leave sex workers vulnerable, you only have to look at universal credit and brexit to see that possibility" That’s not a reason for not doing it. | |||
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"But how would you see legalisation being implemented properly? I can't see a British government having the common sense to do it safely, they would leave gaping loopholes that would leave sex workers vulnerable, you only have to look at universal credit and brexit to see that possibility That’s not a reason for not doing it. " No it absolutely isn't you're right, that's not what I'm saying, what I'm saying is the government should be involved as little as possible, because of repeated faliure to get anything right, should be implemented by lawyers | |||
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"No it’s disgusting and dispicable paying for sex !! Mind you it’s even worse in here it’s free: meaningless sexual gratification with strangers!! Doesn’t anyone respect themselves nowadays " Guys .. seriously are we just gonna let this go and not roast this great person here | |||
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"If it’s legal, why would trafficking exist? Florists are legal and you never hear of an 18 year old being brought in from Eastern Europe because she’ll do a chrysanthemum bouquet like nobody else How many women want to sell sex against men who want to buy sex? The disparity would be huge, therefore supply and demand means prices will rise. Once prices rise above what a lot of men can afford, the temptation is to then bring coerced women in to supply that trade. We’re back to square one. That’s one possible scenario, but not certain. Another scenario is that customers don’t want to go with the illegal ones where there’s always a chance that the thug with a knife will be behind the door and so they just won’t get the customers. No system is guaranteed to work of course, but doing almost anything is better than doing nothing I think I think we see here often enough that an erect prick doesn’t have much of a conscience. A lot of the girls (streetwalkers) are on drugs. Nobody is going to employ those in a regulated brothel. Along with the price problem, it’s a mix with an obvious outcome. I think if you legalise the temptation is for government and agencies like the police to think “job done” and withdraw support for the illegal workers. The law should target the punters not the girls. Cut off demand and supply dwindles. I remember when they was tough on curb crawling, never hear of it now, don’t see the girls on the street like we used to either There used to be a red light district in Kent. Used to be 20 odd girls each night. About 10 years ago they put up ANPR cameras and started writing to owners of cars that had triggered the cameras a few times in a night. I imagine a few takeaway delivery guys got a shock! Now you might see one or two girls, but usually none at all. The area is so much nicer too." The streetworkers will just have moved elsewhere. There will always be a demand for paid for sex. If it was legalised (as it is in some areas of the US and Australia) then hopefully it would be a safer option for all participants. | |||
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"Personally I think it should be made legal. For as long as it remains underground and in the shadows then sexual exploitation by criminal gangs will continue. We need to protect sex workers, not criminalise them. Our current legislation leaves prostitutes on the fringes of society, making them vulnerable to violence, poverty, and health risks. It prevents sex workers having the safety of working with others and having legitimate protection. By keeping it illegal the law is putting those already in a vulnerable position in an even more vulnerable position. " Agreed. | |||
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"No it’s disgusting and dispicable paying for sex !! Mind you it’s even worse in here it’s free: meaningless sexual gratification with strangers!! Doesn’t anyone respect themselves nowadays Guys .. seriously are we just gonna let this go and not roast this great person here "I didn’t! Found the opinion quite outdated. Surely if paying for sex is despicable & disgusting, swinging/causal sex isn’t any better? | |||
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"Personally I think it should be made legal. For as long as it remains underground and in the shadows then sexual exploitation by criminal gangs will continue. We need to protect sex workers, not criminalise them. Our current legislation leaves prostitutes on the fringes of society, making them vulnerable to violence, poverty, and health risks. It prevents sex workers having the safety of working with others and having legitimate protection. By keeping it illegal the law is putting those already in a vulnerable position in an even more vulnerable position. " I was going to post on this thread but you have pretty much said what I was thinking. | |||
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"Personally I think it should be made legal. For as long as it remains underground and in the shadows then sexual exploitation by criminal gangs will continue. We need to protect sex workers, not criminalise them. Our current legislation leaves prostitutes on the fringes of society, making them vulnerable to violence, poverty, and health risks. It prevents sex workers having the safety of working with others and having legitimate protection. By keeping it illegal the law is putting those already in a vulnerable position in an even more vulnerable position. I was going to post on this thread but you have pretty much said what I was thinking. "I agree with the above but I don't think legalised regulated prostitution alone will stop hazardous and exploitative prostitution. Simply because unregulated prostitution would always be cheaper and be easy to set up and start earning. So I wonder if as well as legalising safer, regulated prostitution we should also heavily punish the users of non regulated prostitution? Hopefully this would kill the market for unregulated prostitution by providing punters with a safe legal option and make the use of unregulated prostitution very unattractive due to tough sentencing if caught. Having said that it still doesn't some of our deeper social issuses. I have no problem with prostitution but all to often its exploitative and a product of limited options. If regulated prostitution is hard to get into and there is no market in unregulated prostitution would be removing a line of income to some of the most vulnerable and powerless in society? And if so how would these people earn money instead? For me the existence of exploitative prostitution is a sign of a the inequalities in society. So maybe we should focus on the wider socio-economic issuse too. | |||
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"No it’s disgusting and dispicable paying for sex !! Mind you it’s even worse in here it’s free: meaningless sexual gratification with strangers!! Doesn’t anyone respect themselves nowadays Guys .. seriously are we just gonna let this go and not roast this great person here "You have to resist from feeding the troll , | |||
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"Yeah it should and so should cocaine and heroin, because as long as cocaine and heroin are illegal they will remain underground and criminal, we should also legalize murder because that is underground and criminal too and if it was legal then it wouldnt be." No correlation since prostitution isn’t illegal in the UK. There are just some aspects of it that are. | |||
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"Yeah it should and so should cocaine and heroin, because as long as cocaine and heroin are illegal they will remain underground and criminal, we should also legalize murder because that is underground and criminal too and if it was legal then it wouldnt be." Drugs are a problem here, as is what surrounds the supply of them. Some intelligent thought to curing that with perhaps legalising some of it is worth investigating. Murder, probably less so. But thanks for your input | |||
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"Yeah it should and so should cocaine and heroin, because as long as cocaine and heroin are illegal they will remain underground and criminal, we should also legalize murder because that is underground and criminal too and if it was legal then it wouldnt be." Really?!  | |||
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"Like someone said before it’s not illegal. Only soliciting and brothels are. But yes totally should all be legalised and regulated. " I agree. Health certificate etc. | |||
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"Yeah it should and so should cocaine and heroin, because as long as cocaine and heroin are illegal they will remain underground and criminal, we should also legalize murder because that is underground and criminal too and if it was legal then it wouldnt be. No correlation since prostitution isn’t illegal in the UK. There are just some aspects of it that are. " Either is having cocaine in your blood, it wont get you sent to jail will it? Just some aspects of how you obtain it are illegal. | |||
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"There is no evidence that support prohibition of any items including sex drugs or alcohol everything should be legalised so it can be properly regulated and made a safe as possible because people are still going to do it illegal or not. "And as america has shown, even when you make it legal, people still buy from illegal sources. Illegal alcohol, and are rampant in areas where it is legal. In areas where prostitution is fully legal and legal whore houses are run, you can still get an underage illegal prostitute cant you? | |||
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"No it’s disgusting and dispicable paying for sex !! Mind you it’s even worse in here it’s free: meaningless sexual gratification with strangers!! Doesn’t anyone respect themselves nowadays Ironic "All sorts of people do it for all sorts of reasons. Lots of my friends are. Precarity in work, disability etc My best friend had a glittering career ahead of her, got a brain tumour and now has no capacity to remember things much. Nobody wanted to employ her and disability wasn't enough to live on. What would you do?? As long as there is oppression, financial and sexual etc, there will be demand and supply. They've been treated better than some on here.... | |||
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"It should be made legal and registered. The sex workers could class themselves as self employed and coukd unionize. Giving them more rights under the law and workers rights too. The brothels run as a workers collective , with health benefits and protection for the women and men who work there . " Absolutely!! | |||
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"Yeah it should and so should cocaine and heroin, because as long as cocaine and heroin are illegal they will remain underground and criminal, we should also legalize murder because that is underground and criminal too and if it was legal then it wouldnt be. No correlation since prostitution isn’t illegal in the UK. There are just some aspects of it that are. Either is having cocaine in your blood, it wont get you sent to jail will it? Just some aspects of how you obtain it are illegal." Lol! You can’t be serious really. | |||
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"There is no evidence that support prohibition of any items including sex drugs or alcohol everything should be legalised so it can be properly regulated and made a safe as possible because people are still going to do it illegal or not.
And as america has shown, even when you make it legal, people still buy from illegal sources. Illegal alcohol, and are rampant in areas where it is legal. In areas where prostitution is fully legal and legal whore houses are run, you can still get an underage illegal prostitute cant you?"I don’t think anyone is saying that regulating prostitution would mean no illegal goings on. Prostitution isn’t actually illegal remember. Of course there would still be people who have to do things illegally, the amount in my opinion would rapidly decrease though. | |||
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"No it’s disgusting and dispicable paying for sex !! Mind you it’s even worse in here it’s free: meaningless sexual gratification with strangers!! Doesn’t anyone respect themselves nowadays " But.... ....em.... you're here? | |||
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"No.just more poor trafficked women rather than pretty woman fantasies Human trafficking is more prominent because prostitution is illegal. If it's legalised it can be monitored more easily. Not all prostitutes want some rich bloke to sweep them off their feet...many do it purely because they enjoy lots of sex and the money's good!" The thing is, in countries where it's legal trafficking has not decreased....make it legal to sell but still illegal to buy. | |||
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"Yes, definitely. Brothels are legal in Germany, Holland, Australia and some USA states and many others countries too. They should be legalised here, for the protection of the working girls and punters, and as a source of tax revenue. We know a woman who worked in an Amsterdam brothel when she was younger and said she felt safer there than working as a prostitute in the UK from her own house. But they will not be legalised. No UK government will be brave enough to risk headlines like "Government encourages depravity! Shock horror!" We talked to women from The English Collective of Prostitutes who had a stall at the Big Green Gathering a couple of years back. The collective exists to provide a safer working environment for the girls and as they say, they are providing a basic public service used by not only single men but by single women and couples too. As long as it's their choice, why should the state get involved? " I understand what you're saying but are they REALLY working by choice or is it because the economic system leaves them with sex work as the best of a bad lot. Several women I spoke to on a project a couple of years ago said it was a bad but best option for them. Many were students who had to work to survive but full time work meant they fell behind in coursework, some were single parents for whom full time work was impossible because they couldn't afford childcare. If they weren't under that pressure they said none of them would have chosen sex work.... | |||
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"Yes, definitely. Brothels are legal in Germany, Holland, Australia and some USA states and many others countries too. They should be legalised here, for the protection of the working girls and punters, and as a source of tax revenue. We know a woman who worked in an Amsterdam brothel when she was younger and said she felt safer there than working as a prostitute in the UK from her own house. But they will not be legalised. No UK government will be brave enough to risk headlines like "Government encourages depravity! Shock horror!" We talked to women from The English Collective of Prostitutes who had a stall at the Big Green Gathering a couple of years back. The collective exists to provide a safer working environment for the girls and as they say, they are providing a basic public service used by not only single men but by single women and couples too. As long as it's their choice, why should the state get involved? I understand what you're saying but are they REALLY working by choice or is it because the economic system leaves them with sex work as the best of a bad lot. Several women I spoke to on a project a couple of years ago said it was a bad but best option for them. Many were students who had to work to survive but full time work meant they fell behind in coursework, some were single parents for whom full time work was impossible because they couldn't afford childcare. If they weren't under that pressure they said none of them would have chosen sex work...." I have escort friends who do it out of pure choice & freedom, one runs her own business and does the escorting in her spare time, another works full time as an escort and her boyfriend has his own company. Both of them intend to do it for as long as they can. I don’t doubt there are many that don’t do it out of choice though and more of a last resort. Some gravitate from escorting to “sugar daddy arrangements” and vice versa. | |||
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"prostitution added £10bn to the uk gdp in 2018. government would love to legalise, or rather the tax man would. don't get hysterical about gangs etc, most 'ladies' are independent, very discreet and run themselves in a very professional manner. If they’re running themselves in a professional manner, then they’re already paying tax. " I think if you're going to do things with people you don't fancy then not paying tax is a fair and reasonable benefit! | |||
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