FabSwingers.com forum: Shyness is a mental illness ????

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They probably think swinging is a mental illness too

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By *stwoforfun2Couple
over a year ago

South Suffolk Area

"Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

Really

What a load of bull

needless to say, dont believe it either, whatever next

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By *stwoforfun2Couple
over a year ago

South Suffolk Area

Ustwo being very shy people, we feel quite hurt by that theory

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham

"Really

What a load of bull

needless to say, dont believe it either"

Low self-esteem / lack of confidence etc., etc., “could” fall under psychological issues / mental health, just because one cannot see mental illness, doesn't mean some don't suffer from it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Calling it a 'mental illness' seems a bit bleedin' strong

there can be loads of reasons to be feeling shy, it's not always on the level of Xenophobia

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

"Really

What a load of bull

needless to say, dont believe it either

Low self-esteem / lack of confidence etc., etc., “could” fall under psychological issues / mental health, just because one cannot see mental illness, doesn't mean some don't suffer from it. "

Yes . !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there is always a reason to explain everything nowadays.

nephew is a little shit and the only time he gets attention is by being naughty.

so, do parents try to give him more positive attention? no! they get his diagnosed with ADHD and get him on riddalin(SP) ffs!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dunno,extreme shyness can be devastating for some people and as it's a psychological issue it could be classed as a mental illness.

there are many degrees of shyness

I can be shy sometimes,other times not so. although i suspect some think I'm socially awkward

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Really

What a load of bull

needless to say, dont believe it either

Low self-esteem / lack of confidence etc., etc., “could” fall under psychological issues / mental health, just because one cannot see mental illness, doesn't mean some don't suffer from it.

Yes . !"

I know this is very true, but sometimes it's just a case of feeling people and situations out.... I s'pose it's al levels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dunno,extreme shyness can be devastating for some people and as it's a psychological issue it could be classed as a mental illness.

there are many degrees of shyness

I can be shy sometimes,other times not so. although i suspect some think I'm socially awkward

this is what I meant, I didn't say it very well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dunno,extreme shyness can be devastating for some people and as it's a psychological issue it could be classed as a mental illness.

there are many degrees of shyness

I can be shy sometimes,other times not so. although i suspect some think I'm socially awkward

+1 Some people think your stuck up when your shy. I think its ok to be shy but it can be a problem sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

I can see how crippling shyness can make a persons life a bit difficult and could possibly need some CBT to help with coping mechanisms but general shyness in certain situations is a normal human characteristic

Its like saying that if you have a good cry you're clinically depressed

Crying and feeling emotions is good for you

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By *stwoforfun2Couple
over a year ago

South Suffolk Area

"Calling it a 'mental illness' seems a bit bleedin' strong

there can be loads of reasons to be feeling shy, it's not always on the level of Xenophobia

+50

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They probably think swinging is a mental illness too

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yes some would think that your right ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a stigma to give someone just because they're shy!

That means when a mother says her child isn't speaking to a stranger it's because they are mentally ill. not because they are shy.

What about meeting new people? Do we have to go up to them now and pretend we are their best friends and be fake and be overly outgoing just so they think we aren't loony?

What a load of bollocks!!

Being shy is human nature, not an illness.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

Its in the DSM, which is a list of symptoms for diagnostic purposes, i assume therefore it was a psychiatrist you heard.

Its not the commonly used reference book in Britain, but a diagnosis of mental illness would never be made from one symptom anyway.

Flaky nails is an indication of hyperthyroidism, doesn't mean its the only diagnosis you could make.

For the record psychotherapists cant diagnose anything...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't class it as mental illness.

I am shy esp meeting new people but once we start chatting, I come out my shell, how is that mental illness.

When at uni, I was too shy to stand in front of 100 people and do a presentation, so that makes me mentally ill. Rubbish.

We are not all the same, therefore people will react to things in different ways, its just life.

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By *stwoforfun2Couple
over a year ago

South Suffolk Area

"I wouldn't class it as mental illness.

I am shy esp meeting new people but once we start chatting, I come out my shell, how is that mental illness.

When at uni, I was too shy to stand in front of 100 people and do a presentation, so that makes me mentally ill. Rubbish.

We are not all the same, therefore people will react to things in different ways, its just life."

Very well said xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Read part of a book once where it explained that very early on in life a person either developes into a very confident non-shy person, or just a few things can happen to a person that determines them being shy, wish i could recall name of book.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

Its in the DSM, which is a list of symptoms for diagnostic purposes, i assume therefore it was a psychiatrist you heard.

Its not the commonly used reference book in Britain, but a diagnosis of mental illness would never be made from one symptom anyway.

Flaky nails is an indication of hyperthyroidism, doesn't mean its the only diagnosis you could make.

For the record psychotherapists cant diagnose anything..."

I think it would have been one of the senior consultants in the compilation of the latest edition of this book, DSM 5.

He was on Radio 4 this morning explaining that this is a point of origin reference document, in America. A tool used as a starting point in mental illness diagnosis.

It is to diagnostitians what Wikipedia is to you or I.

Terminology like Neurological Cognitive Dysfunction is a term for Forgetfulness and is to be used by trained experts... Not to be sensationalised by the ignorant masses of the media...

Every mental illness has a starting point which, if diagnosed in its early stages may be ruled out as a normal reaction to daily paterns... Or treated as required.

The media need to fill 24 hours of publishing/ broadcasting... Today was DSM5... Tomorrow it will be Harry Redknapp.

;-);-)

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

Its in the DSM, which is a list of symptoms for diagnostic purposes, i assume therefore it was a psychiatrist you heard.

Its not the commonly used reference book in Britain, but a diagnosis of mental illness would never be made from one symptom anyway.

Flaky nails is an indication of hyperthyroidism, doesn't mean its the only diagnosis you could make.

For the record psychotherapists cant diagnose anything...

I think it would have been one of the senior consultants in the compilation of the latest edition of this book, DSM 5.

He was on Radio 4 this morning explaining that this is a point of origin reference document, in America. A tool used as a starting point in mental illness diagnosis.

It is to diagnostitians what Wikipedia is to you or I.

Terminology like Neurological Cognitive Dysfunction is a term for Forgetfulness and is to be used by trained experts... Not to be sensationalised by the ignorant masses of the media...

Every mental illness has a starting point which, if diagnosed in its early stages may be ruled out as a normal reaction to daily paterns... Or treated as required.

The media need to fill 24 hours of publishing/ broadcasting... Today was DSM5... Tomorrow it will be Harry Redknapp.

;-);-)"

The trouble is that the medicalization of personality traits is a persistent feature of private insurance based health systems - if it's in DSM 5 you can get your insurer to pay for treatment....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guess anything can be used as a condition. Since the beginning of time life forms have adapted to how they are.

Call me sceptic, but maybe someone has found a new funding stream and looking to tap into it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

Think its depends on the degree od shyness

If it just takes a while to be able to chat to someone after you have got to know them a bit i think thats not a ilness, some people just arnt forwards and takes a while to get comfy with new people

If its to the point you cant open the door or socially interact with others thats a problem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If shyness is thought to be a mental illness, it would have to be the same about people who can come over to you and talk the back end off a donkey and you still don't know who they are, lol

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"I wouldn't class it as mental illness.

I am shy esp meeting new people but once we start chatting, I come out my shell, how is that mental illness.

When at uni, I was too shy to stand in front of 100 people and do a presentation, so that makes me mentally ill. Rubbish.

We are not all the same, therefore people will react to things in different ways, its just life.

Very well said xxx"

Also.... what exactly is shyness? Is it the difficulty somebody experiences at speaking in public or is it the thought of having to go to a club for the first time. The point I am making is that it all depends on context....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being shy is not the same has having chronic social anxiety, which is probably what they were actually talking about it. They're not trying to stigmatise 'shyness', they're trying to help people understand the forms that mental illness can take.

As someone who has suffered from clinical depression, I find the stigmatisation of mental illness extremely frustrating.

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By *he Happy ManMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

They are all a load of *******. According to some psychiatrists you believe in God you mentally ill.

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By *echnosonic_BrummieMan
over a year ago

Willenhall

I'm speaking as someone who has suffered depression in the past and who is quite shy, though not hopelessly so (well I wouldn't be on here, would I)?

Whilst I agree some people genuinely have life altering mental disorders, both short-term and long-term, it is way too easy to attach labels to behaviours that fall within the normal range of human behaviour. I was depressed as a result of losing both parents within a relatively short time as a youth, the depression lasted quite a few years but I would consider that somewhat normal given the circumstances.

It affected my relationships with family, friends, girlfriends and my career (though I'm over it now). The depression I suffered at the time went beyond grief, though it never progressed to any self-harming or suicidal tendencies. I never sought any psychological help - despite friends urging me to do so - as I was too afraid of the consequences of having any treatment or mention of it in my medical records.

I'm still slightly shy but if that means I'm suffering from a mental disorder now then so is anyone who is quite extroverted. I would consider a mental disorder to be something that would hamper a person's day-to-day functioning or wellbeing - the same as any other illness. My shyness simply doesn't.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

shyness not a mental illness,but it is a totally debilitating social condition.

where do you draw the line.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suppose u draw the line in terms of the impact it has on your life. I am shy but i force myself to interact with people as i now the alternative is much worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

Don't believe it.... yes I understand. These experts who have studied their subject for years and years, what do they know? For example, a scholar of physical anthropology would look at your picture and say that you are of Indo-European, probably of Germanic race, but what does he know? I believe you are of Mongoloid, probably of Tibeto-Burmese race.

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By *ucky_LadsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Kidderminster+ surrounding areas.

i know youngsters that suffer from asburgers syndrome and autism who find it very awkward to make friends and mix with people,they have a very small circle of friends and feel isolated at school then get picked on and bullied because of this,they are very talented in other areas though but do find it very hard and frustrating to be so shy,so yes!,i would say the experts are correct!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i know youngsters that suffer from asburgers syndrome and autism who find it very awkward to make friends and mix with people,they have a very small circle of friends and feel isolated at school then get picked on and bullied because of this,they are very talented in other areas though but do find it very hard and frustrating to be so shy,so yes!,i would say the experts are correct!."

You're right with aspergers. People with that do come across as extremely shy, bless 'em.

I knew someone with Icanhascheezburgers syndrome... they were addicted to lolcats

It's surprising that even in the 21st century though, behaviour that doesn't fit in with the social norm is still branded as some form of 'mental illness', but then what is the norm.

Wolf

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

You're right with aspergers. People with that do come across as extremely shy, bless 'em.

I knew someone with Icanhascheezburgers syndrome... they were addicted to lolcats

It's surprising that even in the 21st century though, behaviour that doesn't fit in with the social norm is still branded as some form of 'mental illness', but then what is the norm.

Wolf

We all are on a scale ranging from mental health to mental illness, some people will experience more symptoms of mental illness throughout their lives than others. The government is actively encouraging (through IAPT)a better understanding of mental illness and a reduction in the assoicated stigma, hen ce recent TV ads with the bloke who returns to work. We have a long way to go before mental health problems are accepted and treated in the same way as physical ailments.

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By *eaboMan
over a year ago

marden

"Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

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i knew i was ill.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

i knew i was ill.

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isnt that called hypochondria?

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By *eaboMan
over a year ago

marden

"Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

i knew i was ill.

isnt that called hypochondria?

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i'sn't that when you get too cold?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shyness is only an illness if confidence is one too......

Everything is on a bell curve, shy and confident are just extremes of the curve.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

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"Heard this on the radio this afternoon. Don't believe it myself but some psychotherapist, psychoanalyst, psychologist or psycho summat or other was trying to convince the listeners that it is.

i knew i was ill.

isnt that called hypochondria?

i'sn't that when you get too cold?"

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Shyness is only an illness if confidence is one too......

Everything is on a bell curve, shy and confident are just extremes of the curve."
Absolutely

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