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"I think yes even in multicultural schools, in sweden they stopped it in 1972. I think it is an important subject to know, whats your view?" No not should any religions, leave that to their respective places of worship.. Religion, has been one of the biggest causes of war in history, that’s what should be taught in schools!! | |||
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"I think an awareness of all the religions should be taught. Equally." This . And I don’t believe it is. As my daughter seems to know about every other religion a lot more than Christianity! | |||
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"I don't think it should be teached. I think it should be taught... Sorry, couldn't resist!" I nearly did that but refrained! | |||
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"Why do you think it's important? " Just to show awareness of it mostly as religion is what makes a successful society. | |||
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"Why do you think it's important? Just to show awareness of it mostly as religion is what makes a successful society." Did i just read that correctly!? | |||
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"I think an awareness of all the religions should be taught. Equally." I agree. Sadly theres a lot of religions out there and to devote the time to all of them would be a momentous task. Then you have the issue of people decrying why their religion wasnt chosen. It would become an issue of where the buck stops. Do we teach all belief structures such voodoism, rastafarianism, La Veyan Satanism, Asatro? I definitely agree that there should be a wider spread of information about alternate beliefs and not focus purely on the one or two hot ones in the media. Think somebody said ethics would be a better place to go to? Would be able to include religious tolerance as a lesson without having to be exposed to all the differing interpretations this world has to offer when determining about belief. Back under my rock I go | |||
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"Why do you think it's important? Just to show awareness of it mostly as religion is what makes a successful society. Did i just read that correctly!? " Yes, I’m afraid you did x | |||
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"Star wars! Jedi religion makes as much sense as any other i suppose" Probably more so. All religions work on the same basic theme- be nice to each other. | |||
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"I think an awareness of all the religions should be taught. Equally." I’m in agreement with this but it should be taught in the context of pre-rational, rational and post rational philosophies, so it can be understood developmentally. | |||
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"I think yes even in multicultural schools, in sweden they stopped it in 1972. I think it is an important subject to know, whats your view?" As a subject along woth other faiths yes but not in a religious context unless it is a faith school | |||
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"Why do you think it's important? Just to show awareness of it mostly as religion is what makes a successful society. Did i just read that correctly!? Yes, I’m afraid you did x" Yes, religion is the building blocks of faiths and societys. | |||
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"Why do you think it's important? Just to show awareness of it mostly as religion is what makes a successful society. Did i just read that correctly!? Yes, I’m afraid you did xYes, religion is the building blocks of faiths and societys." And oppression and bigotry. | |||
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"Why do you think it's important? Just to show awareness of it mostly as religion is what makes a successful society. Did i just read that correctly!? Yes, I’m afraid you did xYes, religion is the building blocks of faiths and societys. And oppression and bigotry. " | |||
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"I don't think any religion should be learned at all, that's what Sunday school is for. In schools R.E was a waste of time for me I wasn't interested and 99% of the school pretty much. It should be changed to something more useful like an extra hour of something else to learn or a completely new subject like life skills learning first aid training something more useful in life." The reason religion should be taught at school (not hammered in to say you should believe this) is because religion teaches good morals. Look at the 10 commandments for example without the ones telling you to respect god etc the last 5 are what’s missing from the youth of today Honour your father and your mother. Treat your parents with respect You shall not murder. - duh You shall not commit adultery. - opps You shall not steal. - don’t take stuff that isn’t yours You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour. Don’t falsely accuse someone You shall not covet. - don’t be jealous of what others have | |||
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"I don't think any religion should be learned at all, that's what Sunday school is for. In schools R.E was a waste of time for me I wasn't interested and 99% of the school pretty much. It should be changed to something more useful like an extra hour of something else to learn or a completely new subject like life skills learning first aid training something more useful in life. The reason religion should be taught at school (not hammered in to say you should believe this) is because religion teaches good morals. Look at the 10 commandments for example without the ones telling you to respect god etc the last 5 are what’s missing from the youth of today Honour your father and your mother. Treat your parents with respect You shall not murder. - duh You shall not commit adultery. - opps You shall not steal. - don’t take stuff that isn’t yours You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour. Don’t falsely accuse someone You shall not covet. - don’t be jealous of what others have" Morals are independent of religion. Indeed religion was used as a justification for war and slavery. | |||
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"Religious studies should be replaced by equality and diversity education, which should include and overview of differing cultures and religions but not biased or specifically focused on the country it’s being taught That way, future generations may stand a chance of not being as bigoted and institutionally fecked up as most countries are" Agree wholeheartedly on this. Probably won't work as parents drive behaviour, but got to be worth trying. But like all school now lessons would just be based around training for an exam. No thought or challenge involved. | |||
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"I don't think any religion should be learned at all, that's what Sunday school is for. In schools R.E was a waste of time for me I wasn't interested and 99% of the school pretty much. It should be changed to something more useful like an extra hour of something else to learn or a completely new subject like life skills learning first aid training something more useful in life. The reason religion should be taught at school (not hammered in to say you should believe this) is because religion teaches good morals. Look at the 10 commandments for example without the ones telling you to respect god etc the last 5 are what’s missing from the youth of today Honour your father and your mother. Treat your parents with respect You shall not murder. - duh You shall not commit adultery. - opps You shall not steal. - don’t take stuff that isn’t yours You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour. Don’t falsely accuse someone You shall not covet. - don’t be jealous of what others have Morals are independent of religion. Indeed religion was used as a justification for war and slavery." Morals are totally driven by the person teaching. It doesn't matter what the central tenet is, religions generally have a fundamental side that goes to extremes. This is what causes the wars etc. Christian fundamentalism is just as bad as Islamic fundamentalism. It appears to be getting worse as well. The beauty of the internet age where it is easier to prey on the vulnerable and susceptible. | |||
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"I don't think any religion should be learned at all, that's what Sunday school is for. In schools R.E was a waste of time for me I wasn't interested and 99% of the school pretty much. It should be changed to something more useful like an extra hour of something else to learn or a completely new subject like life skills learning first aid training something more useful in life. The reason religion should be taught at school (not hammered in to say you should believe this) is because religion teaches good morals. Look at the 10 commandments for example without the ones telling you to respect god etc the last 5 are what’s missing from the youth of today Honour your father and your mother. Treat your parents with respect You shall not murder. - duh You shall not commit adultery. - opps You shall not steal. - don’t take stuff that isn’t yours You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour. Don’t falsely accuse someone You shall not covet. - don’t be jealous of what others have Morals are independent of religion. Indeed religion was used as a justification for war and slavery." Yes but kids these days who aren’t taught the basic Christian way tend not to give a shot about anyone but then self (not all just a lot of them) personally I believe the 5 commandments that I believe in should actually be taught at home not school respect is taught from parents not teachers. But today’s culture think society is to blame for their little prince/princess being a dick! (I’m far from religious btw I have just studied a lot of them and kind of took what I need from each to maintain a good ethos) | |||
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"I don't think any religion should be learned at all, that's what Sunday school is for. In schools R.E was a waste of time for me I wasn't interested and 99% of the school pretty much. It should be changed to something more useful like an extra hour of something else to learn or a completely new subject like life skills learning first aid training something more useful in life. The reason religion should be taught at school (not hammered in to say you should believe this) is because religion teaches good morals. Look at the 10 commandments for example without the ones telling you to respect god etc the last 5 are what’s missing from the youth of today Honour your father and your mother. Treat your parents with respect You shall not murder. - duh You shall not commit adultery. - opps You shall not steal. - don’t take stuff that isn’t yours You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour. Don’t falsely accuse someone You shall not covet. - don’t be jealous of what others have Morals are independent of religion. Indeed religion was used as a justification for war and slavery. Yes but kids these days who aren’t taught the basic Christian way tend not to give a shot about anyone but then self (not all just a lot of them) personally I believe the 5 commandments that I believe in should actually be taught at home not school respect is taught from parents not teachers. But today’s culture think society is to blame for their little prince/princess being a dick! (I’m far from religious btw I have just studied a lot of them and kind of took what I need from each to maintain a good ethos)" The golden rule, do as you would be done by, is utterly independent of any religion. I totally agree that everyone should be taught not to be a dick. | |||
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"I don't think any religion should be learned at all, that's what Sunday school is for. In schools R.E was a waste of time for me I wasn't interested and 99% of the school pretty much. It should be changed to something more useful like an extra hour of something else to learn or a completely new subject like life skills learning first aid training something more useful in life. The reason religion should be taught at school (not hammered in to say you should believe this) is because religion teaches good morals. Look at the 10 commandments for example without the ones telling you to respect god etc the last 5 are what’s missing from the youth of today Honour your father and your mother. Treat your parents with respect You shall not murder. - duh You shall not commit adultery. - opps You shall not steal. - don’t take stuff that isn’t yours You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour. Don’t falsely accuse someone You shall not covet. - don’t be jealous of what others have Morals are independent of religion. Indeed religion was used as a justification for war and slavery." The Nine Tenets of Satanic Belief and 11 Satanic Rules of the Earth include such lessons as dont harm children, when in another's home show respect, do not take that which doesn't belong to you, don't give opinions or advice unless asked, dont make physical sexual advances unless clear signals are received. The core tenement of the Satanic belief structure is about self belief,living life to its fullest on this sphere of existence, kindness to those who deserve it and above all, gratification rather than a spiritual pipe dream. I'm not saying I'm a La Veyan Satanist but those lessons can be construed as good ones to learn so why dont we teach this in schools. 'God' just seems to have a better PR system than other structures of belief. For the record I agree with some of what you are saying dude but other religions too have inspiring messages to impart and lessons to be learnt. | |||
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"I don't think any religion should be learned at all, that's what Sunday school is for. In schools R.E was a waste of time for me I wasn't interested and 99% of the school pretty much. It should be changed to something more useful like an extra hour of something else to learn or a completely new subject like life skills learning first aid training something more useful in life. The reason religion should be taught at school (not hammered in to say you should believe this) is because religion teaches good morals. Look at the 10 commandments for example without the ones telling you to respect god etc the last 5 are what’s missing from the youth of today Honour your father and your mother. Treat your parents with respect You shall not murder. - duh You shall not commit adultery. - opps You shall not steal. - don’t take stuff that isn’t yours You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour. Don’t falsely accuse someone You shall not covet. - don’t be jealous of what others have Morals are independent of religion. Indeed religion was used as a justification for war and slavery. The Nine Tenets of Satanic Belief and 11 Satanic Rules of the Earth include such lessons as dont harm children, when in another's home show respect, do not take that which doesn't belong to you, don't give opinions or advice unless asked, dont make physical sexual advances unless clear signals are received. The core tenement of the Satanic belief structure is about self belief,living life to its fullest on this sphere of existence, kindness to those who deserve it and above all, gratification rather than a spiritual pipe dream. I'm not saying I'm a La Veyan Satanist but those lessons can be construed as good ones to learn so why dont we teach this in schools. 'God' just seems to have a better PR system than other structures of belief. For the record I agree with some of what you are saying dude but other religions too have inspiring messages to impart and lessons to be learnt." This is why I said religion as a whole should be taught not Christianity Islam teaches to look after yourself Christianity teaches respect Judaism teaches the importance of family Not 1 religion is right above all others but religion helps teach a basic respect of life. | |||
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"I don't think any religion should be learned at all, that's what Sunday school is for. In schools R.E was a waste of time for me I wasn't interested and 99% of the school pretty much. It should be changed to something more useful like an extra hour of something else to learn or a completely new subject like life skills learning first aid training something more useful in life. The reason religion should be taught at school (not hammered in to say you should believe this) is because religion teaches good morals. Look at the 10 commandments for example without the ones telling you to respect god etc the last 5 are what’s missing from the youth of today Honour your father and your mother. Treat your parents with respect You shall not murder. - duh You shall not commit adultery. - opps You shall not steal. - don’t take stuff that isn’t yours You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour. Don’t falsely accuse someone You shall not covet. - don’t be jealous of what others have Morals are independent of religion. Indeed religion was used as a justification for war and slavery. The Nine Tenets of Satanic Belief and 11 Satanic Rules of the Earth include such lessons as dont harm children, when in another's home show respect, do not take that which doesn't belong to you, don't give opinions or advice unless asked, dont make physical sexual advances unless clear signals are received. The core tenement of the Satanic belief structure is about self belief,living life to its fullest on this sphere of existence, kindness to those who deserve it and above all, gratification rather than a spiritual pipe dream. I'm not saying I'm a La Veyan Satanist but those lessons can be construed as good ones to learn so why dont we teach this in schools. 'God' just seems to have a better PR system than other structures of belief. For the record I agree with some of what you are saying dude but other religions too have inspiring messages to impart and lessons to be learnt. This is why I said religion as a whole should be taught not Christianity Islam teaches to look after yourself Christianity teaches respect Judaism teaches the importance of family Not 1 religion is right above all others but religion helps teach a basic respect of life." Coolio bud just saw the ten commandments and thought you where just focusing on Christianity (early morning eyes). Awesome | |||
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"I don't think it should be teached. I think it should be taught... Sorry, couldn't resist!" Considering English is the ops second language getting the past tense of one word wrong isn't bad really. | |||
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"I think yes even in multicultural schools, in sweden they stopped it in 1972. I think it is an important subject to know, whats your view?" It should like all world religions be taught about As a subject containing facts it should not be taught Christianity is defined by believing in a God and a christ It does NOT hold exclusively to wanting peace fairness and humanity for our population | |||
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"I am a firm atheist but I'm OK with my kids being taught RE at school as I hope, and so far it seems I'm right, that it teaches them tolerance of other peoples beliefs. " Absolutely, tolerance is key. We have been to the local mosque at an open day they had, attended events in local church of Scotland churches and are practising Catholics. Any atrocities that happen in the name of religion are done so by manipulating readings from religious books to use them to empower themselves. Most religions if followed correctly can live side by side. | |||
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"Why do you think it's important? Just to show awareness of it mostly as religion is what makes a successful society. Did i just read that correctly!? Yes, I’m afraid you did xYes, religion is the building blocks of faiths and societys. And oppression and bigotry. " And war and child abuse and mysogony and racism and sexism and terror and hatred to name but a few | |||
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"Why do you think it's important? Just to show awareness of it mostly as religion is what makes a successful society. Did i just read that correctly!? Yes, I’m afraid you did xYes, religion is the building blocks of faiths and societys. And oppression and bigotry. And war and child abuse and mysogony and racism and sexism and terror and hatred to name but a few" I'm pretty sure humanity would have come up with these things whether religion existed or not. Personally, I think basic aspects of all religions should be taught in a historical, rather than spiritual context. | |||
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"Grammar is more important Erm ... taught?" His English is probably better than your Swedish ... yes? | |||
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"But like all school now lessons would just be based around training for an exam. No thought or challenge involved." Please don't judge all schools and teachers. I put a lot of thought into my lessons and make sure kids are challenged. I teach R.E. as part of a broad and balanced curriculum. Main 6 religions are covered and each one is given equal weighting. We make comparisons between the religions and I would never dream of saying one religion is better than the rest. I'm an atheist but I think its important that kids know what others believe in. I wouldn't take a subject out of the curriculum because I don't enjoy teaching it or believe in it. Its not for my benefit. I grew up knowing that many people believed many different things and that was ok as long as it didn't hurt anyone else. Like others have said, religion is often used as a scapegoat to allow some truly horrible and power hungry people to commit terrible acts. But please don't start blaming schools. We're trying to cover as much as possible in the hopes that the children we teach won't make the same mistakes that we have and that they have the opportunities to succeed in whatever they want to do as a career. | |||
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"I enjoyed R.E in school until they started to teach about religions other than Christianity. I didn't have a taste for that bloke sitting down with I think, six arms! Would have got another pass, but didn't end up taking the subject." That bloke with six arms is as plausible as that bloke rising from the dead ,ie, almost certainly human invented fiction I do think shag meant christianity should be taught as a factual subject at school , for this I strongly oppose religious schooling Teaching children about world culture however, religion is usually inseparable from culture, teaching about works religions and cultures is vital to form fully rounded , informed, balanced children Teaching the yahweh myth as fact is in my opinion very backward and potentially harmful for a persons long term psychological development x | |||
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"Religious studies should be replaced by equality and diversity education, which should include and overview of differing cultures and religions but not biased or specifically focused on the country it’s being taught That way, future generations may stand a chance of not being as bigoted and institutionally fecked up as most countries are" I like this idea. | |||
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"I think yes even in multicultural schools, in sweden they stopped it in 1972. I think it is an important subject to know, whats your view?" You can't TEACH beliefs Shag. If you create thinking children they can choose their own beliefs. What you seem to be advocating is indoctrination. Why do you keep thrusting Christianity on people ? | |||
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"Star wars! Jedi religion makes as much sense as any other i suppose Probably more so. All religions work on the same basic theme- be nice to each other." Really ? I beg to differ. All religions work on the theme of follow these rules or else. | |||
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"I don't think it should be teached. I think it should be taught... Sorry, couldn't resist! I nearly did that but refrained! " Ha ha ha ha..My first thoughts as well but resisted so thanks! | |||
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"It should be optional for people if they wish to learn more about it then fine but it shouldn't be forced onto students to learn about." Why not ? Would you object as strongly to history ? philosophy ? science ? | |||
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"It should be optional for people if they wish to learn more about it then fine but it shouldn't be forced onto students to learn about. Why not ? Would you object as strongly to history ? philosophy ? science ?" Well no because those subjects concern reality that we can observe nobody has proven God exists so why should I be forced to learn about it? | |||
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"As long as we teach the toothfairy and all the other fairy tales equally. Religion be it christian or any other, should be taught in the context of an out of date belief concocted my man at a time of limited scientific understanding and now used to control the masses. You don't need religion to have morals. " | |||
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"It should be optional for people if they wish to learn more about it then fine but it shouldn't be forced onto students to learn about. Why not ? Would you object as strongly to history ? philosophy ? science ? Well no because those subjects concern reality that we can observe nobody has proven God exists so why should I be forced to learn about it? " History can't be observed and frequently doesn't reflect reality. | |||
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"I think yes even in multicultural schools, in sweden they stopped it in 1972. I think it is an important subject to know, whats your view? You can't TEACH beliefs Shag. If you create thinking children they can choose their own beliefs. What you seem to be advocating is indoctrination. Why do you keep thrusting Christianity on people ?" Indeed. I mean, let's face it, pick a different religion, say, oh I don't know, maybe Muslim, and you're on the path to Islamic radicalisation. | |||
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"I think yes even in multicultural schools, in sweden they stopped it in 1972. I think it is an important subject to know, whats your view? You can't TEACH beliefs Shag. If you create thinking children they can choose their own beliefs. What you seem to be advocating is indoctrination. Why do you keep thrusting Christianity on people ? Indeed. I mean, let's face it, pick a different religion, say, oh I don't know, maybe Muslim, and you're on the path to Islamic radicalisation." | |||
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"Why do you think it's important? Just to show awareness of it mostly as religion is what makes a successful society." Religion does not make a successful society...it's what usually divides it. | |||
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