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"Jill was about to open a can of worms and was silenced..." Care to expand on this? | |||
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"Was tragic at the time. It is horrible when serious crimes go unsolved. There are quite a few high profile ones still and given the amount of time involved, they will all remain unsolved unless someone stops hiding the people that have done it. But from what I have seen and read, a lot of the unsolved ones ate due to mistakes or assumptions early in an investigation. " There was 21 in one night in Birmingham in 1974 that nobody seems too keen on bringing anyone to justice for. If solving a crime doesn't suit the higher echelons of society, it's not going to happen. justice4the21.co.uk | |||
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"Was tragic at the time. It is horrible when serious crimes go unsolved. There are quite a few high profile ones still and given the amount of time involved, they will all remain unsolved unless someone stops hiding the people that have done it. But from what I have seen and read, a lot of the unsolved ones ate due to mistakes or assumptions early in an investigation. There was 21 in one night in Birmingham in 1974 that nobody seems too keen on bringing anyone to justice for. If solving a crime doesn't suit the higher echelons of society, it's not going to happen. justice4the21.co.uk" | |||
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"Was tragic at the time. It is horrible when serious crimes go unsolved. There are quite a few high profile ones still and given the amount of time involved, they will all remain unsolved unless someone stops hiding the people that have done it. But from what I have seen and read, a lot of the unsolved ones ate due to mistakes or assumptions early in an investigation. There was 21 in one night in Birmingham in 1974 that nobody seems too keen on bringing anyone to justice for. If solving a crime doesn't suit the higher echelons of society, it's not going to happen. justice4the21.co.uk" I only bought it up due to last night documentary | |||
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"Jill was about to open a can of worms and was silenced..." This. That's why there are no leads apart from blaming an innocent man. | |||
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"I was surprised that the theory involved a contract killing wow! The BBC missed safety of their journalists by a long chalk! Seems she was on several radars " . I have always believed it was a contract killing.For many years she presented crimewatch a program that lead to the arrest and conviction of many criminals some of which were organised crime.My thoughts have always been that some heavyweight criminals ordered a execution which is what a bullet to the head. | |||
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"Jill was about to open a can of worms and was silenced..." Yep....open a can of worms on some very powerful people...got bumped off when one of her “best friends” got wind of it | |||
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"I was surprised that the theory involved a contract killing wow! The BBC missed safety of their journalists by a long chalk! Seems she was on several radars . I have always believed it was a contract killing.For many years she presented crimewatch a program that lead to the arrest and conviction of many criminals some of which were organised crime.My thoughts have always been that some heavyweight criminals ordered a execution which is what a bullet to the head." There is no logic to this. Gill Dando was a T.V. presenter/reporter. Gill Dando was NOT a private detective. An undercover member of a police force. Do you really think that anything Gill Dando knew would die with her ? If she was killed then someone else would report their findings. She wasn't a mystic oracle. Just a reporter. | |||
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"Jill was about to open a can of worms and was silenced... Yep....open a can of worms on some very powerful people...got bumped off when one of her “best friends” got wind of it " Holds no water whatsoever. | |||
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"Jill was about to open a can of worms and was silenced... Yep....open a can of worms on some very powerful people...got bumped off when one of her “best friends” got wind of it Holds no water whatsoever. " Why’s that then?? | |||
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"Jill was about to open a can of worms and was silenced... Yep....open a can of worms on some very powerful people...got bumped off when one of her “best friends” got wind of it Holds no water whatsoever. Why’s that then??" See above. Gill Dando was a t.v. reporter. She didn't get first hand info. ........ jeez | |||
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"Jill was about to open a can of worms and was silenced... Yep....open a can of worms on some very powerful people...got bumped off when one of her “best friends” got wind of it Holds no water whatsoever. Why’s that then?? See above. Gill Dando was a t.v. reporter. She didn't get first hand info. ........ jeez " She had info of a peado ring at the BBC...it was an open secret back then....even Ester Ranzson,founder of childline done nothing about it!! It’s all just speculation obviously,same as anything about this case,but her “best friend”,a known visiter to underage brothels,and a member of this ring,unbeknown to Jill,was interviewed extensively several times about her murder,her other close friends were not subject to such close scrutiny. Also Jill will of been in the studio most of the day with calls coming in....pretty much first hand info right there Let’s agree to disagree cos no one is ever going to know for sure what happened | |||
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"I was surprised that the theory involved a contract killing wow! The BBC missed safety of their journalists by a long chalk! Seems she was on several radars . I have always believed it was a contract killing.For many years she presented crimewatch a program that lead to the arrest and conviction of many criminals some of which were organised crime.My thoughts have always been that some heavyweight criminals ordered a execution which is what a bullet to the head. There is no logic to this. Gill Dando was a T.V. presenter/reporter. Gill Dando was NOT a private detective. An undercover member of a police force. Do you really think that anything Gill Dando knew would die with her ? If she was killed then someone else would report their findings. She wasn't a mystic oracle. Just a reporter. " . Jill Dando was the face of Crimewatch during the years she presented it a lot of organised crime gangs were sentenced to lengthy prison terms UK gangs as well as Eastern European gangs.My thoughts have always been that a contact was taken out on her the bullet to the head is a professional hit. | |||
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"I was surprised that the theory involved a contract killing wow! The BBC missed safety of their journalists by a long chalk! Seems she was on several radars . I have always believed it was a contract killing.For many years she presented crimewatch a program that lead to the arrest and conviction of many criminals some of which were organised crime.My thoughts have always been that some heavyweight criminals ordered a execution which is what a bullet to the head. There is no logic to this. Gill Dando was a T.V. presenter/reporter. Gill Dando was NOT a private detective. An undercover member of a police force. Do you really think that anything Gill Dando knew would die with her ? If she was killed then someone else would report their findings. She wasn't a mystic oracle. Just a reporter. . Jill Dando was the face of Crimewatch during the years she presented it a lot of organised crime gangs were sentenced to lengthy prison terms UK gangs as well as Eastern European gangs.My thoughts have always been that a contact was taken out on her the bullet to the head is a professional hit." While I wouldn't want to begin to speculate on the reasons the killing was not the work of an amateur and that makes Barry George's conviction all the more ridiculous but the police were always going to take whatever they could get in such a high profile case. The fact that so many years on their have been no subsequent arrests only adds fuel to my belief that this was a professional hit. | |||
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"There's a reason people ask to agree to disagree and it's usually when their argument holds no water. At the time of her death she had just recorded a series of of Antiques Roadshow so maybe the Grandfather Clock did it .... IF... she knew about a pedo ring which was an OPEN SECRET..... OPEN.... there was no need to kill her. Or maybe EVERYONE that knew the OPEN secret should have been killed..... No logic no reasoning. " Nah the reason I said we will agree to disagree is that I can’t be arsed to argue a point I’m not that fussed about with a grannie with blinkers on....the reason she was killed is that she was going to EXPOSE the ring.....and if you want to do some research yourself and open your eyes to the whole thing there are several BBC personalities or people that have worked with Jill’s “best friend” that have died in mysterious circumstances since Saville was outted | |||
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"P.S. I think you've just libelled Esther Rantzen too. " PS....nah don’t think I did....she is on record as admitting hearing rumours all over the place...BBC,music industry,Fleet st,NHS....and doing nothing about it....don’t know about you but if I got the first hint of anything like this going on I’d be shouting it from the rooftops....shortly before I was bumped off myself obviously!! | |||
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"Jill was about to open a can of worms and was silenced... Yep....open a can of worms on some very powerful people...got bumped off when one of her “best friends” got wind of it Holds no water whatsoever. Why’s that then?? See above. Gill Dando was a t.v. reporter. She didn't get first hand info. ........ jeez " Oh and Jill Dando was a journalist not just a TV reporter as you put it....journalists have been known to investigate things you know? | |||
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"And Savile wasn't even the top of the iceberg....Check out his circle of friends." He was deffo up there but your right he wasn’t top of the tree....but what he did have is influence and access to children,vulnerable youngsters and hospitals....he had keys to broadmoor and more!!how this went on for so long I will never understand | |||
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"There's a reason people ask to agree to disagree and it's usually when their argument holds no water. At the time of her death she had just recorded a series of of Antiques Roadshow so maybe the Grandfather Clock did it .... IF... she knew about a pedo ring which was an OPEN SECRET..... OPEN.... there was no need to kill her. Or maybe EVERYONE that knew the OPEN secret should have been killed..... No logic no reasoning. Nah the reason I said we will agree to disagree is that I can’t be arsed to argue a point I’m not that fussed about with a grannie with blinkers on....the reason she was killed is that she was going to EXPOSE the ring.....and if you want to do some research yourself and open your eyes to the whole thing there are several BBC personalities or people that have worked with Jill’s “best friend” that have died in mysterious circumstances since Saville was outted " You are fussed about it. That's plain. Leave the insults out. It doesn't strengthen a weak argument. | |||
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"There's a reason people ask to agree to disagree and it's usually when their argument holds no water. At the time of her death she had just recorded a series of of Antiques Roadshow so maybe the Grandfather Clock did it .... IF... she knew about a pedo ring which was an OPEN SECRET..... OPEN.... there was no need to kill her. Or maybe EVERYONE that knew the OPEN secret should have been killed..... No logic no reasoning. Nah the reason I said we will agree to disagree is that I can’t be arsed to argue a point I’m not that fussed about with a grannie with blinkers on....the reason she was killed is that she was going to EXPOSE the ring.....and if you want to do some research yourself and open your eyes to the whole thing there are several BBC personalities or people that have worked with Jill’s “best friend” that have died in mysterious circumstances since Saville was outted You are fussed about it. That's plain. Leave the insults out. It doesn't strengthen a weak argument. " Where is the insult??is the name you gave yourself an insult to yourself? And you say my argument holds no water but your yet to come up with an argument for your case..... | |||
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"And Savile wasn't even the top of the iceberg....Check out his circle of friends. He was deffo up there but your right he wasn’t top of the tree....but what he did have is influence and access to children,vulnerable youngsters and hospitals....he had keys to broadmoor and more!!how this went on for so long I will never understand " And this I believe,,was what Jill was going to expose. | |||
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"And Savile wasn't even the top of the iceberg....Check out his circle of friends. He was deffo up there but your right he wasn’t top of the tree....but what he did have is influence and access to children,vulnerable youngsters and hospitals....he had keys to broadmoor and more!!how this went on for so long I will never understand And this I believe,,was what Jill was going to expose." Yep....it had been going on for years and a lot of people knew but she told the wrong person....maybe on a summer holiday....what she was planning | |||
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"If an employee was commissioned to develop material upon criminal activities, isn't it likely that their employer and/or the police would have traceable records of this? As media organizations would generally have multiple staff involved in what are complex investments, they'd almost certainly have contingency plans, to ensure their investments were protected. If there were apparently many employees who knew of illegal activities, it would also have been something that many would have been able to and wanted, to take over, should the star have been lost. Unless a celebrity had personally directed a TV show to pursue and direct police activities against criminals, it also appears suspect that convicted criminals would undertake or commission a murder. Who are the likely killers of most celebrities and/or women and why? Those with an obsession, male, spurned, etc? The idea of a conspiracy theory may appear exciting to some but it's probably the more likely explanations that are relevant instead. " That depends on how high this ring went I suppose....I think it went,and still does,go as high as royalty.....Diana is on record as saying saville was Charles mentor....who knows wha that could mean?? Also Ester ranzon was a massive star back in the day but never spoke a word about this until it all came public....whose to say the call handlers and anyone else didn’t fear,or were threatened with their lives Again....i know fuck all....like anyone...but it’s what I believe | |||
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"A thread full of utter shite and little mention of the bigger crime,the treatment of a vulnerable innocent man by the state You do realise that if they could do it to him,and there have been countless others,that they could do it to you or yours" . Not total shite but yes the treatment of Barry George a vulnerable innocent man had been forgotten in all this and I for one would like to apologise for not mentioning this is my previous posts on this thread | |||
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"I was told by a lifer in Hmp moorlands that it was an Irish traveler who carried out a contract hit on her. She was about to blow the lid on the BBC/political paedo rings apparently. Doubt we'll ever know the truth " Yeh it’s a tenuous link if best | |||
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