FabSwingers.com forum: The danger of using Emojis!

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

No longer are you internally deciding for yourself how you come across but are being assisted to

'group think'.

No longer is your mind working to discern love,happiness,humour,

windups,sarcasm,anger etc etc. you are being fed what the other person means to the detriment of thought and interaction.

They are making people mentally lazy and will end up changing the way brains operate.Thats a little too personal for me.

I'm not using them anymore!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love emojis!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I love emojis!

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So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love emojis!

So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others. "

That I'm sarcastic, flirty, obviously really cool and like to play the innocent.

And that I love emojis!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I love emojis!

So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others.

That I'm sarcastic, flirty, obviously really cool and like to play the innocent.

And that I love emojis!

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I discerned the possible light-hearted sarcasm without your help,but did I have to know the rest about you right away?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

I try to be cool...and this one helps to get to the send button

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way "
What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love emojis!

So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others.

That I'm sarcastic, flirty, obviously really cool and like to play the innocent.

And that I love emojis!

I discerned the possible light-hearted sarcasm without your help,but did I have to know the rest about you right away?"

I offered the information...if I didn't want you to know, I wouldn't have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Internet communication makes people lazy, full-stop. The best use of emojis is to clarify tone which is not always clear when writing online.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I love emojis!

So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others.

That I'm sarcastic, flirty, obviously really cool and like to play the innocent.

And that I love emojis!

I discerned the possible light-hearted sarcasm without your help,but did I have to know the rest about you right away?

I offered the information...if I didn't want you to know, I wouldn't have."
Ok thanks, is that you in your entirety?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Internet communication makes people lazy, full-stop. The best use of emojis is to clarify tone which is not always clear when writing online. "
Is that a good thing if people are lazy?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love emojis!

So tell me in your own words what those 4 emojis are communicating to me and others.

That I'm sarcastic, flirty, obviously really cool and like to play the innocent.

And that I love emojis!

I discerned the possible light-hearted sarcasm without your help,but did I have to know the rest about you right away?

I offered the information...if I didn't want you to know, I wouldn't have.Ok thanks, is that you in your entirety? "

Barely scratching the surface...

(I'm now using the flirty emoji to signify my being coy)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way What about allowing people to possibly take it the wrong way as long as you didnt mean to offend them. It may help develop their character and insight?"

Or they might report you and get you a ban.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. "
It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries.

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By *ertnsarahCouple
over a year ago

West Bromwich

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. "

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By *exfordMan
over a year ago

discombobulated land

"No longer are you internally deciding for yourself how you come across but are being assisted to

'group think'.

No longer is your mind working to discern love,happiness,humour,

windups,sarcasm,anger etc etc. you are being fed what the other person means to the detriment of thought and interaction.

They are making people mentally lazy and will end up changing the way brains operate.Thats a little too personal for me.

I'm not using them anymore! "

Wow...a case of overthinking me thinks...

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By *sLittleRedRidingHoodWoman
over a year ago

Magical Forrest

"Internet communication makes people lazy, full-stop. The best use of emojis is to clarify tone which is not always clear when writing online. "

That

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No longer are you internally deciding for yourself how you come across but are being assisted to

'group think'.

No longer is your mind working to discern love,happiness,humour,

windups,sarcasm,anger etc etc. you are being fed what the other person means to the detriment of thought and interaction.

They are making people mentally lazy and will end up changing the way brains operate.Thats a little too personal for me.

I'm not using them anymore! "

Here here

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way

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Are we treading too carefully? Why worry so much if offense is not intended? Surely reasonable adjudicators know the difference?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Internet communication makes people lazy, full-stop. The best use of emojis is to clarify tone which is not always clear when writing online. Is that a good thing if people are lazy?"

Have a lady friend and whenever we text i put an appropriate emoticon at the end so she doesn't take the comment the wrong way.

Easier then writing ten more sentences where i'm explaining in what way did i ment what i wrote.

It's not lazy..just helps expressing yourself in certain situations.

If you don't like it then don't use them. That's it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries.

Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking."
Ok, without being controversial I can see how emojis may help those who need their help.

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By *sLittleRedRidingHoodWoman
over a year ago

Magical Forrest

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious "

And that too ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tried a 'emoji free Friday' once,one day only, just to see how the threads would pan out,can you stop using emojis for one day?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious "
This is an example of someone who through using his mental powers has arrived at a place where he discerns for himself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious This is an example of someone who through using his mental powers has arrived at a place where he discerns for himself.

Indeed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No longer are you internally deciding for yourself how you come across but are being assisted to

'group think'.

No longer is your mind working to discern love,happiness,humour,

windups,sarcasm,anger etc etc. you are being fed what the other person means to the detriment of thought and interaction.

They are making people mentally lazy and will end up changing the way brains operate.Thats a little too personal for me.

I'm not using them anymore! "

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious "

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries.

Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Ok, without being controversial I can see how emojis may help those who need their help."
I respect your point about novels yet the mind still questions during the reading of and imagination is used.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!"

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Perhaps we could start a thread on the use or misuse/non use of punctuation as well. That can often lead to misunderstanding as much as the lack of context in the written word.

I know I'm no angel, before someone tries to rip my posts apart!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence "
You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Iv never liked them, that's to say iv never used them, I just don't see why people put them at the end of every sentence You have never used them? Is that what you are saying? If so, that's admirable in a climate where they are used so often."

Read my post again,I said iv never liked them

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK? "

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Read my post again,I said iv never liked them"

It also says you never used them. I suspect you missed a word out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Perhaps we could start a thread on the use or misuse/non use of punctuation as well. That can often lead to misunderstanding as much as the lack of context in the written word.

I know I'm no angel, before someone tries to rip my posts apart!"
Evie when someone mispunctuates (is that a word? It is now!) Surely you work out what they are trying to say?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Internet communication makes people lazy, full-stop. The best use of emojis is to clarify tone which is not always clear when writing online. Is that a good thing if people are lazy?"

I'm not against laziness per se. In many contexts striving and making a huge effort lacks dignity in my opinion. I hate text-speak for example which is to me a negative example of lazy behaviour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

Haha you do make me smile with your comments, here have a smiley emoji

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

Haha you do make me smile with your comments, here have a smiley emoji

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. "
Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?

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By *irginieWoman
over a year ago

Near Marlborough

I think they’re fun. No more. No less.

I also use them for brevity... my car is blue, so I use the blue car one when I’m about to drive to indicate I’m about to drive to someone who has texted. I may send a kiss to someone to tell them I’m thinking about them as I dash between meetings.

I see no reason to be offended by their use.

V x

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?"

.....ok?

Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The trouble is, how I find it, is that if good communication is 80% body language then messaging is a bad form of communication, which personally I find it is. So I'm happy to back up what I've written with an emoji that would best help describe what I'm saying.

It's great you've decided not to use them but unfortunately you'll not be able to stop other people. Best not let it bother you OP ...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Internet communication makes people lazy, full-stop. The best use of emojis is to clarify tone which is not always clear when writing online. Is that a good thing if people are lazy?

I'm not against laziness per se. In many contexts striving and making a huge effort lacks dignity in my opinion. I hate text-speak for example which is to me a negative example of lazy behaviour "
All depends what your striving for! Isn't that a personal thing? Text speech I don't like either!

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

I like the friendly ones

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The trouble is, how I find it, is that if good communication is 80% body language then messaging is a bad form of communication, which personally I find it is. So I'm happy to back up what I've written with an emoji that would best help describe what I'm saying.

It's great you've decided not to use them but unfortunately you'll not be able to stop other people. Best not let it bother you OP ...

"
Thanks for your insight, not trying to stop people but putting out my thoughts on the subject to provoke thought.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?

.....ok?

Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear. "

No I wasn't? I was explaining my bear avatar was for St George's day

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over a year ago

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By *heekyFlirtyCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Stockport

"I love emojis!

Me too

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

Language and communication develops and adapts to situations and circumstances, this is just a further development and way of expressing the meaning behind a message.

Everyone ascribes tone to a message, especially on here, dependant on how the reader is feeling, their experiences of the poster and punctuation. Emojis simply help to convey the posters true meaning.

At times they can be lazy, when you receive a message that is just one emoji then I find it dismissive. If it's in the context of a larger message then it's just a tool to convey meaning, tone or humour, just like our faces do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think they add.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here have a crab, iv named it shelly

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?

.....ok?

Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear.

No I wasn't? I was explaining my bear avatar was for St George's day"

Hmmm, if only there was a way to convey that you weren't miffed and to prevent the reader misinterpreting your words...

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?

.....ok?

Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear.

No I wasn't? I was explaining my bear avatar was for St George's day"

....ok

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries.

Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking."
Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual?

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

Listen to Sarah Pascoe talking about emojis.

I'm not sure whether to say "it's" funny or to add an emoji......

It's funny.

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

Emojis have their place, as with virtual communication Mehrabians Rule of 7/38/55 Is definitely skewed. Just to clarify any direct communication between people is roughly 7% what is said, 38% how it is said and 55%, every other non verbal cue. Due to the inability to convey tone, timing, or inflection purely by the written word (unless you are incredibly gifted, or famous - try reading a book by Jeremy Clarkson without it sounding like his voice in your head!) You are losing over 90% of your communication with your audience. Unless they know you well a flatly written statememt could be taken as sincere, deadpan humour, sarcasm... and that all depends on how it is read.

I can boil this down to the use of a single word. Fine. If a man asks his female partner if she is ok (in the same room) and she replies "Fine".. is that really fine? Is there tension in her voice?, is it raised? Is she slamming cupboard doors? Are her lips pursed? I am sure many men would agree if they got a one word answer of "Fine" they should start to worry about whatever it is they may have done wrong.

Now take that situation and separate the people. A reply by text that just says "Fine" sets alarm bells ringing... and thisbis the place to use emojis. Rather than waffle on with details about how fine you may or may not be the addition of a smiling face takes the place of the time, inclination and matching body language.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Here have a crab, iv named it shelly"

Hmmmm......I wonder how this action could be construed?

Belligerence?

Sarcastic?

Dare I say child like?

Lol you are a funny thing Mr Dash! Yet another child's toy as an avatar....but we are not kids.

Any whoo, this has been fun but now I must away to work where phones are not permitted. Enjoy your emojiless day one and all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries.

Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual?"

What you're saying is true, said with a sigh as I stare at the ceiling rolling my eyes, but very few people are word smiths unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Here have a crab, iv named it shelly

Hmmmm......I wonder how this action could be construed?

Belligerence?

Sarcastic?

Dare I say child like?

Lol you are a funny thing Mr Dash! Yet another child's toy as an avatar....but we are not kids.

Any whoo, this has been fun but now I must away to work where phones are not permitted. Enjoy your emojiless day one and all. "
Now that communication to your friend brought a smile to my face and not an emoji in sight!

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over a year ago

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries.

Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual?

What you're saying is true, said with a sigh as I stare at the ceiling rolling my eyes, but very few people are word smiths unfortunately. "
I acknowledge what your saying.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries.

Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual?

What you're saying is true, said with a sigh as I stare at the ceiling rolling my eyes, but very few people are word smiths unfortunately. I acknowledge what your saying. "

I would point out (pedantic I know) but your misuse of the word 'your' is indicative of this issue; people aren't perfect with grammar. A misplaced punctuation mark can be crucial (pandas anyone?).

Adding Emojis, as M&G stated, adds part of the missing social cues which are essential for good communication. In our busy lives we don't have time to write full reactive discourse. Emojis are an available tool for clarity so why not use them.

To me it's a little like saying that email is lazy. What's wrong with typing your message out on a typewriter, buying a stamp, then waiting patiently for your communication to reach its target?

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over a year ago

"Emojis have their place, as with virtual communication Mehrabians Rule of 7/38/55 Is definitely skewed. Just to clarify any direct communication between people is roughly 7% what is said, 38% how it is said and 55%, every other non verbal cue. Due to the inability to convey tone, timing, or inflection purely by the written word (unless you are incredibly gifted, or famous - try reading a book by Jeremy Clarkson without it sounding like his voice in your head!) You are losing over 90% of your communication with your audience. Unless they know you well a flatly written statememt could be taken as sincere, deadpan humour, sarcasm... and that all depends on how it is read.

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People will not grow in understanding people or their written communication by calling on their past experiences or learning new ones, such a use of the mind will become redundant.

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over a year ago

People will not grow in understanding people or their written communication by calling on their past experiences or learning new ones, such a use of the mind will become redundant."

We live on an age of bad communication, rushed time and laziness unfortunately...

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over a year ago

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries.

Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual?

What you're saying is true, said with a sigh as I stare at the ceiling rolling my eyes, but very few people are word smiths unfortunately. I acknowledge what your saying. "

Don't be stupid (am I having a laugh with you, or do I actually think you're stupid?)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is it admirable?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Because it causes arguments and upset. That's like saying we should talk without facial expressions, ibtobationy or body language and just hope that the other person gets our meaning.

I agree not every sentence needs an accompanying emoji though. It's an interesting one about facial expressions, but the written word has stood alone except for illustrated books for centuries.

Yes, but in novels the author tells us how the subjects are feeling, by writing things like "He said, with a tinge of sadness in his voice". Authors set the tone before they write the dialogue; we're writing in conversational style. I can say to someone "Don't be stupid". They won't know if I'm being sarcastic; if I'm angry or joking.Surely all the communication around that "don't be stupid" will give them an idea of it's use in context. Isn't it a dumbing down of the other individual?

What you're saying is true, said with a sigh as I stare at the ceiling rolling my eyes, but very few people are word smiths unfortunately. I acknowledge what your saying.

I would point out (pedantic I know) but your misuse of the word 'your' is indicative of this issue; people aren't perfect with grammar. A misplaced punctuation mark can be crucial (pandas anyone?).

To me it's a little like saying that email is lazy. What's wrong with typing your message out on a typewriter, buying a stamp, then waiting patiently for your communication to reach its target? "
I was acknowledging what the person who replied to my comment about dumbing down said. I see no fault.

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over a year ago

Why is it admirable? "
It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis.

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over a year ago

I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis."

So people who use emojis don’t have a reasoned idea?

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over a year ago

Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis."

Maybe they're boring and think without emotion.

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over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. "
Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

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over a year ago

Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis.

Maybe they're boring and think without emotion."
How many love letters have been written in the past without emojis, that express emotion?

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over a year ago

Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis.

Maybe they're boring and think without emotion.How many love letters have been written in the past without emojis, that express emotion?"
After all this is my love letter to you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Adding a well placed emoji conveys the tone of the post in an otherwise expression free environment.

I think it’s all to easy to forget that a lot of people rely on more than just words to understand the true meaning of a sentence.

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over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?"

I don't know what you mean

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over a year ago

Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis.

Maybe they're boring and think without emotion.How many love letters have been written in the past without emojis, that express emotion?After all this is my love letter to you!"
I'm being humourous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I consider the icons as advanced punctuation, though not everyone has grasped the true need of using them in a gramattical manner.

Language evolves, after all theRomansinventedlatinbutdidntinventthespacebetweenwords

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over a year ago

I don't mind them as an addition or a simplistic response or acknowledgment.

I do think they get a bit over used and become a little meaningless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't mind them as an addition or a simplistic response or acknowledgment.

I do think they get a bit over used and become a little meaningless. "

The same argument could be used against the letter E

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over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

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Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?

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over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?"
profession.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Are we before and after . Op?

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

does it work?

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

does it work?"

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

(Sick)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my brain was fucked waaaaaaay before emojis were invented fear it guys im the next step in evolution

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

does it work?

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

(Sick)"

Crap noooooooooooooooo

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

How do I do the sicky one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

does it work?

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

(Sick)

Crap noooooooooooooooo"

that sort of sick?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How do I do the sicky one?"

Vom in brackets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?"

No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Are we before and after . Op?

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I am always willing to learn if something is so incorrect as to need correction!

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

does it work?

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

(Sick)

Crap noooooooooooooooo

that sort of sick?"

Yes...arhhhhh I see (vomit)

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

does it work?

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

(Sick)

Crap noooooooooooooooo

that sort of sick?

Yes...arhhhhh I see (vomit)"

God dam it!

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well op traditionaly in text authors captioned peoples speech with thier tone etc

So wothout emojies we all need to start writing in third person with author comments.

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over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?

No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism."

I totally understand this. Autistic people tend not to understand sarcasm so I can see how it would help differentiate x

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhh I vomited

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?

No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism."
Got you,if they help you then that's a great use for emojis!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?

No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism.

I totally understand this. Autistic people tend not to understand sarcasm so I can see how it would help differentiate x "

I understand it if I can hear a voice and see facial expressions. An emoji conveys the same message in the absence of those things.

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over a year ago

Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis.

Maybe they're boring and think without emotion.How many love letters have been written in the past without emojis, that express emotion?"

We're not wrot7ng love letters though. This is a forum where conversation flows fast and is, mostly, at a superficial level.

We don't need to think deep most of the time and we write with an air of brevity, to get our point across. We aren't writing novels here Huey.

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over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?

No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism.

I totally understand this. Autistic people tend not to understand sarcasm so I can see how it would help differentiate x

I understand it if I can hear a voice and see facial expressions. An emoji conveys the same message in the absence of those things. "

Definitely. Although I think they help anyway. Texts can often be construed incorrectly. I like emojis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well op traditionaly in text authors captioned peoples speech with thier tone etc

So wothout emojies we all need to start writing in third person with author comments.

"How time consuming that would be" she said, with an air of annoyance and an eye roll.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well op traditionaly in text authors captioned peoples speech with thier tone etc

So wothout emojies we all need to start writing in third person with author comments.

"
Didn't we generally manage before in letter or note writing apart from the odd illustration, X

or perfume scent to accompany it?

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over a year ago

I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence.

Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not)

I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs.

If I dont put an emoji I always want to add a ! I need something at the end of it. A full stop just isnt enough. (Sigh)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence.

Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not)

I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs.

If I dont put an emoji I always want to add a ! I need something at the end of it. A full stop just isnt enough. (Sigh) "
This info makes their use more understandable. Some people need pictures to go with their words.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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...and why are you batting your eyelids like that, do you have something in your eyes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence.

Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not)

I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs.

If I dont put an emoji I always want to add a ! I need something at the end of it. A full stop just isnt enough. (Sigh) This info makes their use more understandable. Some people need pictures to go with their words."

A picture is worth a thousand words after all

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over a year ago

Kent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well op traditionaly in text authors captioned peoples speech with thier tone etc

So wothout emojies we all need to start writing in third person with author comments.

Didn't we generally manage before in letter or note writing apart from the odd illustration, X

or perfume scent to accompany it?"

We're on an internet forum with multiple people posting at the same time. We have to roll with the times.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence.

Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not)

I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs.

A picture is worth a thousand words after all"
Probably said by some artist trying to flog his work!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

...and why are you batting your eyelids like that, do you have something in your eyes?"

You need to gen up on your emojis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence.

Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not)

I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs.

A picture is worth a thousand words after all Probably said by some artist trying to flog his work!"

Not an art connoisseur then.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well op traditionaly in text authors captioned peoples speech with thier tone etc

So wothout emojies we all need to start writing in third person with author comments.

Didn't we generally manage before in letter or note writing apart from the odd illustration, X

or perfume scent to accompany it?

We're on an internet forum with multiple people posting at the same time. We have to roll with the times. "
I'm smiling, times change.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way

Are we treading too carefully? Why worry so much if offense is not intended? Surely reasonable adjudicators know the difference?"

Good point.

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over a year ago

"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence.

Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not)

I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs.

A picture is worth a thousand words after all Probably said by some artist trying to flog his work!

Not an art connoisseur then."
I'm looking for a female to pose for a portrait, know anyone?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way

Are we treading too carefully? Why worry so much if offense is not intended? Surely reasonable adjudicators know the difference?

Good point. "
Thanks.

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over a year ago

Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis.

So people who use emojis don’t have a reasoned idea?

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I'm hearing some of them, and it's helpful to learn why.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence.

Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not)

I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs.

A picture is worth a thousand words after all Probably said by some artist trying to flog his work!

Not an art connoisseur then.I'm looking for a female to pose for a portrait, know anyone?"

If your art work is akin to Rubens I might.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?

No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism."

Sounds to me like he was taking the piss if he was repeatedly asking if you understood.

Or he was genuinely trying to help.

Interesting example.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

The written word can be taken is so many different ways.

I could write something that depending on the readers mood at that exact time, they may see as me being jokey, tongue in cheek, or me being arrogant, vain.

Or people who know me would get the humour, a complete stranger wouldn't.

Even the post written directly above yours can alter how it may be interpreted.

I've had people quote my comments, be quite ranty back, it's obvious they havn't grasped the context I wrote it in.

So yes, I am an Emoji user.

As I've found it takes sticking a silly grin, impish face or a frowny for some people to clearly understand me.

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over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?

No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism.

Sounds to me like he was taking the piss if he was repeatedly asking if you understood.

Or he was genuinely trying to help.

Interesting example.

He wasn't repeatedly asking, I was repeatedly asking 'is that a joke or are you being serious'.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The written word can be taken is so many different ways.

I could write something that depending on the readers mood at that exact time, they may see as me being jokey, tongue in cheek, or me being arrogant, vain.

Or people who know me would get the humour, a complete stranger wouldn't.

Even the post written directly above yours can alter how it may be interpreted.

I've had people quote my comments, be quite ranty back, it's obvious they havn't grasped the context I wrote it in.

So yes, I am an Emoji user.

As I've found it takes sticking a silly grin, impish face or a frowny for some people to clearly understand me. "
One of the oft used reasons I've heard is you have to know me to get me, a stranger wouldn't. I don't think that's necessarily true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?

No, I have a diagnosis. My friend jokingly said, after me asking yet again if he was being serious or joking, if he should always include emojis in order to break through the autism.

Sounds to me like he was taking the piss if he was repeatedly asking if you understood.

Or he was genuinely trying to help.

Interesting example.

He wasn't repeatedly asking, I was repeatedly asking 'is that a joke or are you being serious'. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

emjois are fantastic I love emojis all tho this site is limited in its choice of emojis

Mrscxxx

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)

I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.

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By *irestorm 500Couple
over a year ago

coventry

"Surely emojis help to impart the context of a message which can often be taken in the wrong way "

I agree

x storm x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The written word can be taken is so many different ways.

I could write something that depending on the readers mood at that exact time, they may see as me being jokey, tongue in cheek, or me being arrogant, vain.

Or people who know me would get the humour, a complete stranger wouldn't.

Even the post written directly above yours can alter how it may be interpreted.

I've had people quote my comments, be quite ranty back, it's obvious they havn't grasped the context I wrote it in.

So yes, I am an Emoji user.

As I've found it takes sticking a silly grin, impish face or a frowny for some people to clearly understand me. One of the oft used reasons I've heard is you have to know me to get me, a stranger wouldn't. I don't think that's necessarily true."
Another thing I will add is with emojis do

they help people to get a feel for

you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

with angry folks......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really."

Makes it interesting when you meet them face to face. They don't know what to expect.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really."
Yes sometimes useful when having a mischievous wind up! Then the person realises and you both laugh.Tell me I cracked you up, more precious to me than a smiley face.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Text is one dimensional, unlike longer forms of writing.

So if it helps in understanding, or expanding on the limitations of communication where all the none verbal signals cannot be seen and understood, what's wrong with an emoji or three....

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)

"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.

Makes it interesting when you meet them face to face. They don't know what to expect. "

Is that you saying you expected I would be an arrogant prick?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.Yes sometimes useful when having a mischievous wind up! Then the person realises and you both laugh.Tell me I cracked you up, more precious to me than a smiley face."

If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

emjois are fantastic I love emojis all tho this site is limited in its choice of emojis

Mrscxxx "
Thank God for that Mrsc it would be worse than learning Japanese!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.

Makes it interesting when you meet them face to face. They don't know what to expect.

Is that you saying you expected I would be an arrogant prick?

I didn't say I thought you'd be an arrogant prick.

I thought you wouldn't talk to me because I'm a dick and you're cool.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. "
Ban me, Ban me I will go to my ban laughing my ass off. Answered in a non aggressive or confrontational way...what's the emoji for that?

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)

If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. "

I've only ever been banned twice. First one was for calling someone a cunt, no emoji was required. Second ban was for posting while still banned the first time.

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over a year ago

If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. Ban me, Ban me I will go to my ban laughing my ass off. Answered in a non aggressive or confrontational way...what's the emoji for that?"

covers most things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. "

I said something in reply to one of your posts a while ago and meant it as a joke (against me) but forgot the

I'm still cringing about it in case it was taken the wrong way.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. Ban me, Ban me I will go to my ban laughing my ass off. Answered in a non aggressive or confrontational way...what's the emoji for that?

covers most things."
Thanks Kaitlyn.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"The written word can be taken is so many different ways.

I could write something that depending on the readers mood at that exact time, they may see as me being jokey, tongue in cheek, or me being arrogant, vain.

Or people who know me would get the humour, a complete stranger wouldn't.

Even the post written directly above yours can alter how it may be interpreted.

I've had people quote my comments, be quite ranty back, it's obvious they havn't grasped the context I wrote it in.

So yes, I am an Emoji user.

I see the point that you're making or trying to make; that emojis are essentially dumbing down the written word and expression of meaning. That readers should apply context to those words and 'use their brains' to actually understand the writers true meaning.

I think that you're presuming an awful lot in this. Firstly, that the writer is skilled enough to convey that meaning. Secondly, that the reader is able to take the time to read thoroughly. Finally, that emojis are actually detracting from communication.

I think that you're wrong on each of those points.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban.

I've only ever been banned twice. First one was for calling someone a cunt, no emoji was required. Second ban was for posting while still banned the first time."
At the risk of not looking serious about the topic, this is hilarious!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The written word can be taken is so many different ways.

I could write something that depending on the readers mood at that exact time, they may see as me being jokey, tongue in cheek, or me being arrogant, vain.

Or people who know me would get the humour, a complete stranger wouldn't.

Even the post written directly above yours can alter how it may be interpreted.

I've had people quote my comments, be quite ranty back, it's obvious they havn't grasped the context I wrote it in.

So yes, I am an Emoji user.

I think that you're wrong on each of those points.

Your assumption is something that has been levelled at each new development of technology, from the radio through to the Internet. I think that you're being idealogical about this and not looking at it practically. Would it be nice if everyone could communicate clearly without them? Probably, do we need them? Yes, yes we do. "
A nicely thought out and written answer, but the part don't have the time to read thoroughly. Well that person can hardly have been said to have read, and is likely to miss a lot.They best read it when they have the time!

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)

"I intentionally don't use them sometimes just so people aren't quite sure how to take what I've written, just for my own amusement really.

Makes it interesting when you meet them face to face. They don't know what to expect.

Is that you saying you expected I would be an arrogant prick?

I didn't say I thought you'd be an arrogant prick.

I thought you wouldn't talk to me because I'm a dick and you're cool.

You're not a dick and over estimating my coolness is a very common mistake.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The written word can be taken is so many different ways.

I could write something that depending on the readers mood at that exact time, they may see as me being jokey, tongue in cheek, or me being arrogant, vain.

Or people who know me would get the humour, a complete stranger wouldn't.

Even the post written directly above yours can alter how it may be interpreted.

I've had people quote my comments, be quite ranty back, it's obvious they havn't grasped the context I wrote it in.

So yes, I am an Emoji user.

I think that you're wrong on each of those points.

Your assumption is something that has been levelled at each new development of technology, from the radio through to the Internet. I think that you're being idealogical about this and not looking at it practically. Would it be nice if everyone could communicate clearly without them? Probably, do we need them? Yes, yes we do. "
If the writer is not skilled enough to get their point across do we just leave them there or help them...because sometimes we can see what they are trying to say.

Not every technological advancement is without it's pitfalls.

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By *nderIwonder.Man
over a year ago

2nd City

it's as if they are pigeon holing human emotion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"it's as if they are pigeon holing human emotion. "
That's an interesting statement.

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over a year ago

If they realise. If not, you're looking at a ban. Ban me, Ban me I will go to my ban laughing my ass off. Answered in a non aggressive or confrontational way...what's the emoji for that?

covers most things."

Dispense withe rest of the emojis then, and just use that one.....sorted

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?"

That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.

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over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive."
Hi,read how the whole conversation goes.

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By *unlinguyMan
over a year ago

South Dublin

Sorry if i come across cheeky, sarcastic or confused...you will have to guess and work out for yourself..but is that thumb thing on your text not an "emoji" ???

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

Why is it admirable? It's admirable to me because that person is different,and hopefully has a reasoned idea, it may not be much of why they don't like emojis.

Maybe they're boring and think without emotion.How many love letters have been written in the past without emojis, that express emotion?"

Not sure youbare getting it OP. A love letter has context and meaning and directed thought. As previously stated this is a public forum. You may only know a tiny fraction of the people well enough for them to understand context, tone and all the rest of the stuff behind what you write. There may be in jokes that only you and one other person know about and you write for your pleasure..

Not everyone is classically educated, verbose, or has the ability to be sesquipedalian. Very few people have the time to be a modern day Keats or Christopher Hitchens (If you haven't heard of Hitchens look him up on YouTube-incredible orator). Language is a functional skill. The forums would be dead if everyone had to compose lengthy, skilled, witty posts just for your amusement. Nobody would be bothered, and even then, would people's post truly reflect them as individuals?

The forum is what it is, people use it to convey what they want, how they want. If they want or need to use emojis get over it.

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By *unlinguyMan
over a year ago

South Dublin

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?

.....ok?

Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear. "

In text and e mail etc.. using caps for a full word is considered shouting

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over a year ago

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?

.....ok?

Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear.

In text and e mail etc.. using caps for a full word is considered shouting"

YES IT IS..... Sorry

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes."

I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming.

If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed?

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes.

I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming.

If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed?"

Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising.

Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I do think they are overused but this is light hearted fun (supposedly) that is usually skim read, and they help get your meaning across without having to deep think every sentence.

Posts come across very deadpan sarcasm to me without emojis, which I quite like actually. (Even if they are intended that way or not)

I think most of us can probably still exercise our brains elsewhere to prevent us being dumbed down and become unthinking blobs.

A picture is worth a thousand words after all Probably said by some artist trying to flog his work!

Not an art connoisseur then.I'm looking for a female to pose for a portrait, know anyone?

If your art work is akin to Rubens I might. "
Nice one,I am a good portrait artist...though I don't really need a model...he says kicking himself!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes.

I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming.

If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed?

Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising.

Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued."
Not misconstrued, I prefer not understood then the lady offered information to bring clarity...it's called a conversation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?

.....ok?

Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear.

In text and e mail etc.. using caps for a full word is considered shouting"

Ok is actualy spelt OK as its an acronym

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By *unlinguyMan
over a year ago

South Dublin

"We are not kids, I don't need an emoji to tell me if somebody is joking or serious

Says the guy with a stuffed bear as an avatar!

Its a St George's bear from yesterday..... OK?

See....if I'd have put a

at the end of my comment perhaps you'd have realised I was being cheeky/sarcastic and would not gave become overtly defensive/aggressive in your reply.

It just made me laugh that you have s stuffed toy as an avatar whilst proclaiming not to be a kid. Wether it's a St George's Day bear or not is irrelevant to the juxtaposition of your comment and your avatar. Why do you think he was being aggressive or defensive? Why not he was just explaining himself?

.....ok?

Maybe not aggressive but he was certainly miffed at my comment about the bear.

In text and e mail etc.. using caps for a full word is considered shouting

Ok is actualy spelt OK as its an acronym

I know, i was just pointing out that sometimes due to what i said about the caps.. and what you said about the "OK" that someone might see that as being a bit elevated in their temperament.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or they might report you and get you a ban."

You mean it's happened to you too

...

Lets be honest emojis add fun and humour to the boring posts on the forums

I only got about 10 I can use..

And the ones off the phone keyboard just show as ?? in posts

...

.... make that 18

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes.

I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming.

If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed?

Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising.

Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued.Not misconstrued, I prefer not understood then the lady offered information to bring clarity...it's called a conversation."
You need to reread the conversation she mentioned no medical diagnosis,but a friend said..so I asked a relevant question, and if she took no offence why should you? Also this is her private life we are discussing here and she is not involved.

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes.

I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming.

If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed?

Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising.

Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued.Not misconstrued, I prefer not understood then the lady offered information to bring clarity...it's called a conversation."

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?"

Here is your second reply, for clarity. Firstly you replied to the autism comment in a club manner, in your second reply you asked if she had been diagnosed by a doctor. I repeat, that's pretty patronising. If someone told you they had cancer, would you say the same thing? Even conversationally it was between two intelligent adults. Her comment was a reply to your initial OP, did you think it was an admission worth lying about. Again, point proven. Your articulation was sub standard if it could be misconstrued by anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes.

I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming.

If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed?

Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising.

Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued.Not misconstrued, I prefer not understood then the lady offered information to bring clarity...it's called a conversation.I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?

Its because she said

"To break through the autism, as a friend puts it,"

The "as a friend puts it" can be read as a comment on the phrasing to break through which it was or equally it could be a comment on the autism ie her friend calls her difficulty autism.

So his interpretation isnt that unusual given the large number of people who joking use the term autism (smilar to how ocd is used) and the very small number with autism.

Bur yes he has all the tact of a bull in a china shop following that

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

That is a pretty glib reply to that statement and quite insensitive.Hi,read how the whole conversation goes.

I did, but for someone espousing clarity, eloquence and cerebralism in posts you took what was clearly defined (autism) and then replied in a fashion that was quite unbecoming.

If someone had said they were severely dyslexic and had problems expressing themselves via written word would you have asked them if they had been diagnosed?

Your initial reply came across as incredibly patronising.

Even if it wasn't meant to be you have proven every one else's point. You were unable to communicate that clearly enough that it couldn't be misconstrued.Not misconstrued, I prefer not understood then the lady offered information to bring clarity...it's called a conversation.I'm quite grateful for emojis, actually. I sometimes (often) need them to break through the autism, as a friend puts it, and convey the tone of the comment.

It stops me having to constantly ask if someone is being sarcastic or serious. Is your friend a doctor? Is that constantly having to ask an issue of trust?

I don't know what you mean

Are you diagnosed (told by the medical proffesion) that you are autistic? Or are you taking a friends word for it, said maybe as a joke?

(closed, thread got too big)

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