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The crucifixion of jesus

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope and nope

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Nope and nope "
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By *valanche1001Man
over a year ago

Leeds


"Nope and nope "

this

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By *orksRockerMan
over a year ago

Bradford

HE died for our sins, because HE/GOD made an error giving man them in the first place.

No thanks, I'll take care of atoning for my wrong doings with the specific people in question.

This blanket forgiveness is not helpful thank you very much.

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By *entileschiWoman
over a year ago

Norwich


"HE died for our sins, because HE/GOD made an error giving man them in the first place.

No thanks, I'll take care of atoning for my wrong doings with the specific people in question.

This blanket forgiveness is not helpful thank you very much. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder if he'd be proud of fab?

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By *iBBW and hubbyCouple
over a year ago

oxford

Not sure he’d approve of fabs - not even his mum had sex

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

No and how can you celebrate such an apparently important event on a different date each year

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante


"Not sure he’d approve of fabs - not even his mum had sex"

.....allegedly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure he’d approve of fabs - not even his mum had sex"

Did you think she had like a glowing orgasm during the immaculate conception....? It must have been pretty spesh beig implanted with a baby jesus.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder if he'd be proud of fab? "

Not with all the verbal stonings that go on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No and how can you celebrate such an apparently important event on a different date each year"

What's a year????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wonder if he'd be proud of fab?

Not with all the verbal stonings that go on here "

Times are violent.....

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By *iBBW and hubbyCouple
over a year ago

oxford


"Not sure he’d approve of fabs - not even his mum had sex

Did you think she had like a glowing orgasm during the immaculate conception....? It must have been pretty spesh beig implanted with a baby jesus..... "

I guess that depends on what route the angel took

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure he’d approve of fabs - not even his mum had sex

Did you think she had like a glowing orgasm during the immaculate conception....? It must have been pretty spesh beig implanted with a baby jesus.....

Nostril maybe, like an Egyptian mummification process.....

I guess that depends on what route the angel took"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seeing as I'm on Fabs looking at beautiful ladies and probably going to have some alone time I'm going to say no. A dying 'saviour' isnt high on my list of desirable images in my old brain pan!

Kudos on your beliefs though

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"No and how can you celebrate such an apparently important event on a different date each year"

The date of Easter is determined by the phases of the moon.

That's because the true origin of Easter is in Egypt and the celebration of the goddess of sex and fertility.

The Christians came along basically rebranded it with their own narrative.

Or did you think bunny rabbits and eggs came from the Bible story?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"No and how can you celebrate such an apparently important event on a different date each year

The date of Easter is determined by the phases of the moon.

That's because the true origin of Easter is in Egypt and the celebration of the goddess of sex and fertility.

The Christians came along basically rebranded it with their own narrative.

Or did you think bunny rabbits and eggs came from the Bible story?

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I'm not religious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure he’d approve of fabs - not even his mum had sex

Did you think she had like a glowing orgasm during the immaculate conception....? It must have been pretty spesh beig implanted with a baby jesus..... "

The immaculate conception was HER conception, not his. She had to be free of Original Sin.

Anyway, no I shall not be thinking particularly of a deity who took human form so that he could sacrifice himself to himself in order to get around the rules that he created.

Happy chocolate!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am."

Go onto YouTube and search "the tiger lilies banging in the nails"

Sums up how I feel Haha

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside

nope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im guessing it made him cross

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Crucifixion was a common method of capital punishment then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im guessing it made him cross "

Don't you reckon the last bloody thing Jesus would ever want to see is a fecking cross? It's like Abe Lincoln coming back and being given a gun, or James Dean and a Porsche. If I'm the character of Jesus and somebody comes up to me brandishing a cross, I'm no more nailing the dick to the wall with my fist.

Again, attempt at humourous commentary, dont need the hate filled religious messages. Believe what you want and take solace in that. If your faith is not strong enough to accept some minor joking on a website them that raises greater issues for your 'soul'

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

So what if jesus died on the cross

so what about the fucker I couldn't give a toss...

..crass....so what....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With all that's been said about him (mostly derogatory) its funny how often he makes the threads on Fab, and not just Easter.

I guess it's hard to keep a good man down (literally).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I'm not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jesus goes into a hotel, puts four nails down on the counter and says "can you put me up for the night?".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am."

Do you celibrate by getting wood?

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By *NACONDA1000Man
over a year ago

buncrana


"No and how can you celebrate such an apparently important event on a different date each year"

Because it's all to do with the spring equinoxe (Pagan festival) and fuck all to do with any "Jesus".

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By *heffmMan
over a year ago

sheffield

yeshua?

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By *NACONDA1000Man
over a year ago

buncrana


"Not sure he’d approve of fabs - not even his mum had sex

Did you think she had like a glowing orgasm during the immaculate conception....? It must have been pretty spesh beig implanted with a baby jesus.....

The immaculate conception was HER conception, not his. She had to be free of Original Sin.

Anyway, no I shall not be thinking particularly of a deity who took human form so that he could sacrifice himself to himself in order to get around the rules that he created.

Happy chocolate! "

You're RIGHT about that, it was all to do with Mary's mum conceiving her, not Mary conceiving Jesus. They seem to have forgotten about the grandmother, great-grandmother, great-great-grandmother, etc, etc though!

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

How many bloody jesus and god related threads are you going to start, this is a swinging site not Christian's anonymous

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By *P_80Man
over a year ago

Waterford

Easter, like Christmas goes back to more ancient beliefs than Christianity.

They're both based on the winter solstice.

The Sun/Sun God/Son of God is lowest in the sky on 21st December and seems to remain there for around 3 days before it's noticeably higher in the sky, usually on the 24th/25th.

The Sun God is reborn on the 25th. That's Christmas.

The Sun God also dies and rises again after 3 days. That's Easter.

For some reason though, Easter, while having its roots in the winter solstice, was moved to coincide with the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox, 21st of March.

Both Christmas and Easter are the retelling of ancient pagan beliefs.

So no, other than this post I probably won't be thinking of ol' JC at all.

I am looking forward to some Easter eggs on Sunday though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"yeshua?"

Bless you!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

No. I perceive that religion, like many others, to be the result of people who wanted to gain power and money - completely unlike the reputed Jesus. There have been thousands of religions and probably most, if not all, of them were sustained for the same reasons imo.

Jesus seemed rather unlike his reputed father, he was a fairly peaceful dude, not really going around invoking death penalties etc. But he's been milked for all he's worth by the many flavours of churches that have perpetuated his story.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I don’t believe in organised religion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God doesn't believe in atheists.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am."

Im not sure celebrating is the right word but i am thinking of him. I am a christian despite being a swinger too. Im sure he will have something to say on judgement day.

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By *adeiteWoman
over a year ago

Staffordshire

No I'm busy eating a sarnie and drinking a slush puppy enjoying the sunshine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No I'm busy eating a sarnie and drinking a slush puppy enjoying the sunshine.

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Damn.....I want a slush puppie now

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By *adeiteWoman
over a year ago

Staffordshire


"No I'm busy eating a sarnie and drinking a slush puppy enjoying the sunshine.

Damn.....I want a slush puppie now "

Tesco in the ice lolly isle

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will be nailing a creme egg to a cross.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure he’d approve of fabs - not even his mum had sex

Did you think she had like a glowing orgasm during the immaculate conception....? It must have been pretty spesh beig implanted with a baby jesus..... "

Lol, all i could think of when reading that was Jeremy Clarkson narrating the words

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By *upremexMan
over a year ago

liverpool. huyton. near yewtree

No not at all. Its a story written by far to many different people and over a course of a hundred years, bits taken out and bits added. So all in all a OK yarn from the past.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think celebrating nailing the local crazy guy to a cross is strange..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hot cross bun day. And I havnt had one yet.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

No I won't be celebrating Good Friday and the crucifixion. I will be having a long think about death and rebirth while I'm tending my seedlings in the greenhouse and watching the trees, plants and shrubs come back to life after appearing to be dead all winter. If I stay in my greenhouse long enough with all the growing stuff my thoughts might turn to how I can make a fresh start in certain areas of my life and how the spring symbolises that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No I won't be celebrating Good Friday and the crucifixion. I will be having a long think about death and rebirth while I'm tending my seedlings in the greenhouse and watching the trees, plants and shrubs come back to life after appearing to be dead all winter. If I stay in my greenhouse long enough with all the growing stuff my thoughts might turn to how I can make a fresh start in certain areas of my life and how the spring symbolises that. "

Bloody hell, that's deep. I just plant things and they either live or they die...

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"No I won't be celebrating Good Friday and the crucifixion. I will be having a long think about death and rebirth while I'm tending my seedlings in the greenhouse and watching the trees, plants and shrubs come back to life after appearing to be dead all winter. If I stay in my greenhouse long enough with all the growing stuff my thoughts might turn to how I can make a fresh start in certain areas of my life and how the spring symbolises that.

Bloody hell, that's deep. I just plant things and they either live or they die..."

I'm only shallow when it comes to who I'll fuck

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"No I won't be celebrating Good Friday and the crucifixion. I will be having a long think about death and rebirth while I'm tending my seedlings in the greenhouse and watching the trees, plants and shrubs come back to life after appearing to be dead all winter. If I stay in my greenhouse long enough with all the growing stuff my thoughts might turn to how I can make a fresh start in certain areas of my life and how the spring symbolises that.

Bloody hell, that's deep. I just plant things and they either live or they die...

I'm only shallow when it comes to who I'll fuck "

My hero.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

No. God sent himself as a sacrifice to himself to enable him to forgive his own creation for sin he was responsible for. And this sacrifice mirrored the human sacrifice of the child of Abraham that was aborted but was praiseworthy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is god

Imagination

A symbol of lies

And frustrating

Your saviour Jesus was lost

When he was nailed to the cross

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The bible is a lie

Defy the lying priest

God doesn’t control your life

You chose your own destiny

Religion if for the week

Your soul will die for ever

Get of your knees

There’s no god in heaven

=SR=

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By *he English OneMan
over a year ago

west

Now religion is getting brought into this now I've heard everything i'm gunna go find an atheist,Buddhist, catholic,Protestant, Hindu and any other faiths and have one massive orgie and see if we can conjure up something lol

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Apparently he left his hat in the Notre-Dame

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope... I don't do any of the religious festivals, due to uncontrollable atheism

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By *J RHEAMan
over a year ago

S West

No, what an absolute con. At best he was real and he was probably a con man who'd worked out a way of doing magic tricks like turning water into wine etc.

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

Easter moves because the one part of the Bible that places the time on Easter is the last supper which was a pre-Passover celebration. Passover starts, this year, this evening as it's based on the phases of the moon.

There have been appropriations of pagan symbols, yes, but the basis of the celebration is Jewish.

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By *haverMan
over a year ago

bracknell

I always respect any one who comes with love and peace

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By *eorge JetsonMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Evolution people

It's all about the evolution.

Or at least that's what I told my son to ask his teacher when they held Easter mass at his Catholic school!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

many of the flock on here claim not to be religious

..but are often found on their knees..

thou knowest !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

X marks the spot or at least thats what she told me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought Easter was when the Easter bunny had his birthday.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In a word Shag, No.

As far as I'm concerned. Today is Friday.

Tomorrow is Saturday and the day after is a Sunday. Same as any other week of the year.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman
over a year ago

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I wish I could be nailed like Jesus to the cross

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Always look on the bright side of life...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope and don't believe in Zombies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

come on, anyone who believes that a fictional supernatural being impregnated a human woman who gave birth to some sort of supernatural/human hybrid has been taking Rosemary's baby too seriously

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By *eisurepleasureMan
over a year ago

belfast

Do you think if Jesus came back he ever wants to see another cross

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over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am."

I'm thinking will ITV schedule a screening of Goldfinger this Sunday.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Surely people can have their belief system without being abused? Happily agnostic here, but I am ok with other people having beliefs - so long as we don’t try and make others do things against their will whats the harm?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

oh, and jesus christ is a fictional character, as are all gods ever imagined.

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By *greygorCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

you fab none believers will all go to hell .a hot place full of none believing sex perves and whores and loose women that drink to much and pole dance naked .do you want that after life .? repent now and go to heaven where there are regular knitting clubs .bible classes .and 24 /7 cliff richard songs played .you choice .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you believe that a Jewish Rabbi could be executed by one of the most painful and lingering forms of killing, the after a few days comes back to life and escapes from a sealed tomb... good luck to you!

I'm just happy to have a few days holiday.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Noooo... next you'll be telling me there is no Santa....

Jesus was a real man ... a Jewish Rabbi, not the mystical creature the Christian church would have you believe in.

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By *greygorCouple
over a year ago

birmingham


"Noooo... next you'll be telling me there is no Santa....

Jesus was a real man ... a Jewish Rabbi, not the mystical creature the Christian church would have you believe in"
he was not cercumcied so no way a jewish rabbi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im biggus dickus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it's not the judean People's front it's the People's Front of Judea you've to watch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely people can have their belief system without being abused? Happily agnostic here, but I am ok with other people having beliefs - so long as we don’t try and make others do things against their will whats the harm?"

thanks, but if you know anything about these belief systems you know that most are actively prejudiced against lgbt, many are racist and mysogynistic and intolerant of other belief systems

I acknowledge the right of anyone to believe what nonsense they wish to but I reserve the right to not respect ignorance, superstition and prejudice.

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By *am62Woman
over a year ago

Bristol

No one can judge us, one did and they Crucified him.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

Not unless it catches fire, then I will make a bunch of tweets saying how awful it is. Cause its all about how you look these days.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am."

Yep , me too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The real Jesus was documented by Roman historians and identified him as a Rabbi

He was born of the house of David ... one of the major Jewish 'aristocracy' and had a reasonable claim to the 'kingship' of Israel. This was why he was executed by the Roman army at the request of the ruling party in Jerusalem.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Surely people can have their belief system without being abused? Happily agnostic here, but I am ok with other people having beliefs - so long as we don’t try and make others do things against their will whats the harm?

thanks, but if you know anything about these belief systems you know that most are actively prejudiced against lgbt, many are racist and mysogynistic and intolerant of other belief systems

I acknowledge the right of anyone to believe what nonsense they wish to but I reserve the right to not respect ignorance, superstition and prejudice. "

So responding in kind is the right answer?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wish I could be nailed like Jesus to the cross "

I'd certainly like to nail you

Oh, and he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am."

The crucifixion marked Jesus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"im biggus dickus"

or am i Spartacus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

blessed are the cheesemakers (obviously it's not meant to be taken literally: it refers to any manufacturer of dairy products).

now - 'welease Woger'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although ive never been religious (all myths) Ive always liked this religious comeback. " It doesn't matter if you believe in Jesus or not-he still believes in you .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No one can judge us, one did and they Crucified him. "

a crown court judge can

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field

As usual, it can all be answered by a quote from Father Ted

Dougal: Come on, Ted. Sure it's no more peculiar than all that stuff we learned in the seminary, you know, Heaven and Hell and everlasting life and all that type of thing. You're not meant to take it seriously, Ted!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How right/spot on was this quote from Life of Brian 40 years ago."They're going to nail him up"."Right.This calls for immediate discussion"

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By *hrobbermanMan
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

Who was it betrayed Jesus to the Romans?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who was it betrayed Jesus to the Romans?"

Nobody. It didn’t happen. But Judas got the blame, poor lad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No one can judge us, one did and they Crucified him.

a crown court judge can "

And a jury too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who was it betrayed Jesus to the Romans?"

judas . for thirty pieces of chocolate

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By *hrobbermanMan
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

Coccius Firmus was the Roman prelate of Southern Scotland in the 2nd century AD.

True.

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over a year ago


"The real Jesus was documented by Roman historians and identified him as a Rabbi

He was born of the house of David ... one of the major Jewish 'aristocracy' and had a reasonable claim to the 'kingship' of Israel. This was why he was executed by the Roman army at the request of the ruling party in Jerusalem."

There are absolutely no contemporary extra-biblical sources for Jesus. None.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As usual, it can all be answered by a quote from Father Ted

Dougal: Come on, Ted. Sure it's no more peculiar than all that stuff we learned in the seminary, you know, Heaven and Hell and everlasting life and all that type of thing. You're not meant to take it seriously, Ted!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely people can have their belief system without being abused? Happily agnostic here, but I am ok with other people having beliefs - so long as we don’t try and make others do things against their will whats the harm?"

But we are made too aren’t we? Who funds the churches? Funds the head of c of e? Mi choice would be not one single penny of my tax goes toward any religious organisation including head of state woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The real Jesus was documented by Roman historians and identified him as a Rabbi

He was born of the house of David ... one of the major Jewish 'aristocracy' and had a reasonable claim to the 'kingship' of Israel. This was why he was executed by the Roman army at the request of the ruling party in Jerusalem.

There are absolutely no contemporary extra-biblical sources for Jesus. None. "

Yep. Not one contemporary account of this fella.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The real Jesus was documented by Roman historians and identified him as a Rabbi

He was born of the house of David ... one of the major Jewish 'aristocracy' and had a reasonable claim to the 'kingship' of Israel. This was why he was executed by the Roman army at the request of the ruling party in Jerusalem.

There are absolutely no contemporary extra-biblical sources for Jesus. None. "

Wasn't Joshua (jesus) the profit mentioned in writing in the Roman tax offices records ..I could be wrong .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The real Jesus was documented by Roman historians and identified him as a Rabbi

He was born of the house of David ... one of the major Jewish 'aristocracy' and had a reasonable claim to the 'kingship' of Israel. This was why he was executed by the Roman army at the request of the ruling party in Jerusalem.

There are absolutely no contemporary extra-biblical sources for Jesus. None.

Wasn't Joshua (jesus) the profit mentioned in writing in the Roman tax offices records ..I could be wrong . "
prophet.. google being ironically funny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am."

I don't believe in fairy tales.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what have the Romans ever done for us ?

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales. "

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it wrong that I think of Jesus in a different way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The real Jesus was documented by Roman historians and identified him as a Rabbi

He was born of the house of David ... one of the major Jewish 'aristocracy' and had a reasonable claim to the 'kingship' of Israel. This was why he was executed by the Roman army at the request of the ruling party in Jerusalem.

There are absolutely no contemporary extra-biblical sources for Jesus. None. "

You sound like you know, however you might like to refer to Josephus and Tacitus (Roman historian and Roman Senate), Pliny the Younger (Roman governor) and of course the Babylonian Talmud are just 4 well accepted and recognised sources that confirm a lot of biblical accounts that many want to dismiss. Interesting to note that each of these had a vested interest to dismiss the existence of, activities, death and resurrection/disappearance of and most certainly his activities afterwards (if they could).

The thing one needs to understand too is that as with anything like this, the evidence is there and more will be uncovered that confirms what these non biblical accounts say and probably more as increasing historical evidence is found.

One needs to know a little bit more of something before making silly sweeping statements otherwise one just presumes your closed minded and have an issue with religion.

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I don't personally do the whole religion thing, but I'm happy for those who gain comfort and hope from it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The reason it is called good friday or as we call it long friday is cos it was the longest day for jesus.

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over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!"

No? OK, prove it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

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over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it."

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested."

If the world was to be reset, science would be rediscovered, modern religions would not. That's all the proof you need

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over a year ago


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion "

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

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over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested."

even though I am not religious I have to agree there is documented evidence of Joshua the prophet(Jesus )existence written in his lifetime..mainly by the Roman authorities

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it."

I don't need to, I just have Faith and believe.....

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over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested.

If the world was to be reset, science would be rediscovered, modern religions would not. That's all the proof you need "

In what way?

Science is an evolutionary understanding based upon many presuppositions which help to make up some laws. Some of these laws have changed as we've learned that some presuppositions were not as true as was once assumed.

Maybe some new science may demonstrate some of our findings are not as concrete as we currently think too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested."

I was actually trying to make a point to the poster who denounced the 'fairy tales' comment.

I have no issue with those who believe / have faith etc, but many of them lack respect for the fact that there are those of us who do not.

I wouldn't ordinarily ask a Christian to PROVE anything, but by denouncing another poster in the way he did, I thought was rather harsh

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"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India."

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"I don't personally do the whole religion thing, but I'm happy for those who gain comfort and hope from it"

Same here, and I don’t feel the need to belittle those that do

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested.

If the world was to be reset, science would be rediscovered, modern religions would not. That's all the proof you need

In what way?

Science is an evolutionary understanding based upon many presuppositions which help to make up some laws. Some of these laws have changed as we've learned that some presuppositions were not as true as was once assumed.

Maybe some new science may demonstrate some of our findings are not as concrete as we currently think too."

Yes, science is ever changing and disproving old theories, but all of that would be rediscovered in time. Modern religions definitely would not. If anything it makes more sense for people to be agnostic than follow a modern religion. What if you've picked the wrong religion and youve been worshipping a false idol you're whole life, that's sounds like a one way ticket down, especially according to christianity.

I'm also curious how people can justify being religious and be on this site, surely it breaks an insane amount of rules

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested.

even though I am not religious I have to agree there is documented evidence of Joshua the prophet(Jesus )existence written in his lifetime..mainly by the Roman authorities"

This and it's hard evidence for any one genuinely interested.

They had the very best reasons to prove he didn't exist, didn't perform amazing acts and didn't command the respect and following of the people.

The Jewish Leaders were another powerful influencial group who also had every reason to disprove him too. However they both failed for some reason. One has to ask why?

One doesn't need to be religious to believe in facts that are there in front of us.

One doesn't need to be a scientist to believe in science either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested.

even though I am not religious I have to agree there is documented evidence of Joshua the prophet(Jesus )existence written in his lifetime..mainly by the Roman authorities

This and it's hard evidence for any one genuinely interested.

They had the very best reasons to prove he didn't exist, didn't perform amazing acts and didn't command the respect and following of the people.

The Jewish Leaders were another powerful influencial group who also had every reason to disprove him too. However they both failed for some reason. One has to ask why?

One doesn't need to be religious to believe in facts that are there in front of us.

One doesn't need to be a scientist to believe in science either. "

love that last paragraph

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By (user no longer on site)
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested.

If the world was to be reset, science would be rediscovered, modern religions would not. That's all the proof you need

In what way?

Science is an evolutionary understanding based upon many presuppositions which help to make up some laws. Some of these laws have changed as we've learned that some presuppositions were not as true as was once assumed.

Maybe some new science may demonstrate some of our findings are not as concrete as we currently think too.

Yes, science is ever changing and disproving old theories, but all of that would be rediscovered in time. Modern religions definitely would not. If anything it makes more sense for people to be agnostic than follow a modern religion. What if you've picked the wrong religion and youve been worshipping a false idol you're whole life, that's sounds like a one way ticket down, especially according to christianity.

I'm also curious how people can justify being religious and be on this site, surely it breaks an insane amount of rules"

Why would most religions not be rediscovered?

Secondly why has being religious and being on here a conflict? Religion is nothing personal in its true form, it's a set of rituals and external codes one can use and adopt. Spirituality is more personal. I believe we are all spiritual beings, some oppress it for fear of inner or outter conflict.

Returning to your science argument, science I don't think in its current understanding can prove or disprove the spiritual world.

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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested.

even though I am not religious I have to agree there is documented evidence of Joshua the prophet(Jesus )existence written in his lifetime..mainly by the Roman authorities

This and it's hard evidence for any one genuinely interested.

They had the very best reasons to prove he didn't exist, didn't perform amazing acts and didn't command the respect and following of the people.

The Jewish Leaders were another powerful influencial group who also had every reason to disprove him too. However they both failed for some reason. One has to ask why?

One doesn't need to be religious to believe in facts that are there in front of us.

One doesn't need to be a scientist to believe in science either.

love that last paragraph "

Maybe just maybe something I've said might out last me

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested.

If the world was to be reset, science would be rediscovered, modern religions would not. That's all the proof you need

In what way?

Science is an evolutionary understanding based upon many presuppositions which help to make up some laws. Some of these laws have changed as we've learned that some presuppositions were not as true as was once assumed.

Maybe some new science may demonstrate some of our findings are not as concrete as we currently think too.

Yes, science is ever changing and disproving old theories, but all of that would be rediscovered in time. Modern religions definitely would not. If anything it makes more sense for people to be agnostic than follow a modern religion. What if you've picked the wrong religion and youve been worshipping a false idol you're whole life, that's sounds like a one way ticket down, especially according to christianity.

I'm also curious how people can justify being religious and be on this site, surely it breaks an insane amount of rules

Why would most religions not be rediscovered?

Secondly why has being religious and being on here a conflict? Religion is nothing personal in its true form, it's a set of rituals and external codes one can use and adopt. Spirituality is more personal. I believe we are all spiritual beings, some oppress it for fear of inner or outter conflict.

Returning to your science argument, science I don't think in its current understanding can prove or disprove the spiritual world."

Well the large Hadron collider proved that there was no such thing as ghosts and spirits wandering out earth. As for conflict, Christian rules would say no to coveting your neighbour, adultery, etc, etc. It depends whether the follower is following it as fact or more as lessons. All my Christian friends treat the bible more as life lessons and not as facts, like they think the whole Adam and eve thing is bollocks and whatnot.

As for why would modern religions not be rediscovered, they just wouldn't. Undoubtedly new religions would spring up as some humans just need something to follow to justify our existence, you would only have to look at the Greek pantheon, why does that no longer exist? People just found something better to follow so moved onto a new set of rules

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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested.

even though I am not religious I have to agree there is documented evidence of Joshua the prophet(Jesus )existence written in his lifetime..mainly by the Roman authorities

This and it's hard evidence for any one genuinely interested.

They had the very best reasons to prove he didn't exist, didn't perform amazing acts and didn't command the respect and following of the people.

The Jewish Leaders were another powerful influencial group who also had every reason to disprove him too. However they both failed for some reason. One has to ask why?

One doesn't need to be religious to believe in facts that are there in front of us.

One doesn't need to be a scientist to believe in science either. "

Absence of proof isn't proof of absence.

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By (user no longer on site)
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

I don't need to, I just have Faith and believe....."

Ah, but when you start to tell others that what THEY believe is wrong.....

Who's to say that YOU are right.

And THAT is why I responded in the way I did.

Anyone can believe in whatever they choose, but when they start to tell others what to believe in, sorry, that's just wrong

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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested.

even though I am not religious I have to agree there is documented evidence of Joshua the prophet(Jesus )existence written in his lifetime..mainly by the Roman authorities

This and it's hard evidence for any one genuinely interested.

They had the very best reasons to prove he didn't exist, didn't perform amazing acts and didn't command the respect and following of the people.

The Jewish Leaders were another powerful influencial group who also had every reason to disprove him too. However they both failed for some reason. One has to ask why?

One doesn't need to be religious to believe in facts that are there in front of us.

One doesn't need to be a scientist to believe in science either.

Absence of proof isn't proof of absence."

Absence of proof is why we don't believe in the first place.

Many say that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. They're wrong.

When you expect evidence to be present, absence of that evidence is remarkably telling.

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By (user no longer on site)
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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

I don't need to, I just have Faith and believe....."

Faith is hardly a reliable path to truth.

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"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

Why? It seems to have stood the test of time, much longer than anything you or I will ever say. Secondly you find actually want to know, so there little point try to explain to someone who is closed and narrow minded. There's plenty of documentary evidence by many much more learned and respected than any of us. If you're genuinely interested go and search and read for yourself, but I'm gathering you're just another with an issue with religion rather than actually interested.

If the world was to be reset, science would be rediscovered, modern religions would not. That's all the proof you need

In what way?

Science is an evolutionary understanding based upon many presuppositions which help to make up some laws. Some of these laws have changed as we've learned that some presuppositions were not as true as was once assumed.

Maybe some new science may demonstrate some of our findings are not as concrete as we currently think too.

Yes, science is ever changing and disproving old theories, but all of that would be rediscovered in time. Modern religions definitely would not. If anything it makes more sense for people to be agnostic than follow a modern religion. What if you've picked the wrong religion and youve been worshipping a false idol you're whole life, that's sounds like a one way ticket down, especially according to christianity.

I'm also curious how people can justify being religious and be on this site, surely it breaks an insane amount of rules

Why would most religions not be rediscovered?

Secondly why has being religious and being on here a conflict? Religion is nothing personal in its true form, it's a set of rituals and external codes one can use and adopt. Spirituality is more personal. I believe we are all spiritual beings, some oppress it for fear of inner or outter conflict.

Returning to your science argument, science I don't think in its current understanding can prove or disprove the spiritual world.

Well the large Hadron collider proved that there was no such thing as ghosts and spirits wandering out earth. As for conflict, Christian rules would say no to coveting your neighbour, adultery, etc, etc. It depends whether the follower is following it as fact or more as lessons. All my Christian friends treat the bible more as life lessons and not as facts, like they think the whole Adam and eve thing is bollocks and whatnot.

As for why would modern religions not be rediscovered, they just wouldn't. Undoubtedly new religions would spring up as some humans just need something to follow to justify our existence, you would only have to look at the Greek pantheon, why does that no longer exist? People just found something better to follow so moved onto a new set of rules "

Never heard of the Haldron Collinder.

Grecian pantheonism was more philosophy than a religion and was driven by philosophical speculation. For this reason it is more rationalistic in its approach. This is probably why it died out as it wasn't really based on hard factual teaching. As philosophy changed it left it's religious side behind.

Not sure your argument the modern religions just wouldn't exist is much of an an argument.

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By *iss SinWoman
over a year ago

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford


"Not sure he’d approve of fabs - not even his mum had sex"

Haha brilliant

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over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

I don't need to, I just have Faith and believe.....

Faith is hardly a reliable path to truth. "

Why not?

The chair you just sat on, did you analysis it's capabilities, joints and structure before you sat in it? Yet you had faith that it would support you. We use faith in every day activities without a second thought.

You haven't replied to my last comment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended) "

No one doubts he existed

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

No one doubts he existed "

We have almost no contemporary evidence he existed. Josephus/Tacitus writings are unreliable and the gospels were written a couple of decades after his life and are inconsistent on basic facts. There is no evidence for the census around his birth amd Nazarus doesnt seem to have existed at the time of his birth. There are loads of books about the historical Jesus. He is probably an amalgum of several popular nomadic rabbis preaching at the time. We have more evidence for Socrates existence than jesus amd plenty of historians have shown he may not have existed.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

No one doubts he existed "

No one? Really??? Sweeping in the generalisations there

.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

No one doubts he existed "

It's a growing field of academic research.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

I don't need to, I just have Faith and believe.....

Faith is hardly a reliable path to truth.

Why not?

The chair you just sat on, did you analysis it's capabilities, joints and structure before you sat in it? Yet you had faith that it would support you. We use faith in every day activities without a second thought.

You haven't replied to my last comment."

Is there anything that I couldn't believe based on faith?

And we can make reasonable analytical judgements about chairs by testing. The chair I just sat in has supported me in the past, I have a decent amount of evidence that it is sturdy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

No one doubts he existed

No one? Really??? Sweeping in the generalisations there

.

*seeing how well this thread is going, shakes head and retires to something more challenging, ooo snog, fuck, lick .. hmm*"

You doubt Ghandi existed? I think there's plenty of historical, written and verbal evidence to show that.

There's also clear written historical evidence by those who didn't want him around that Jesus existed too. I think those who want to doubt either would believe even if either reappeared in front of them with photo id and a NI number.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

No one doubts he existed

No one? Really??? Sweeping in the generalisations there

.

*seeing how well this thread is going, shakes head and retires to something more challenging, ooo snog, fuck, lick .. hmm*

You doubt Ghandi existed? I think there's plenty of historical, written and verbal evidence to show that.

There's also clear written historical evidence by those who didn't want him around that Jesus existed too. I think those who want to doubt either would believe even if either reappeared in front of them with photo id and a NI number."

My mistake ... I thought it was no doubt jebus existed .. hence my retiring .. these subjects never go well

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over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

I don't need to, I just have Faith and believe.....

Faith is hardly a reliable path to truth.

Why not?

The chair you just sat on, did you analysis it's capabilities, joints and structure before you sat in it? Yet you had faith that it would support you. We use faith in every day activities without a second thought.

You haven't replied to my last comment.

Is there anything that I couldn't believe based on faith?

And we can make reasonable analytical judgements about chairs by testing. The chair I just sat in has supported me in the past, I have a decent amount of evidence that it is sturdy. "

It has, but the first time, you had no evidence it would support you other than faith, yet I'd guess you never thought twice about sitting in it, that my point. Same with getting in a new car and driving it, your faith is that someone else says its road worthy and the brakes will stop you. We exercise faith every day based upon what others have said or done without personal experience, then we developed a personal faith as we gain personal experience. That faith often replaces the faith we had in anothers experience.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

No one doubts he existed

No one? Really??? Sweeping in the generalisations there

.

*seeing how well this thread is going, shakes head and retires to something more challenging, ooo snog, fuck, lick .. hmm*

You doubt Ghandi existed? I think there's plenty of historical, written and verbal evidence to show that.

There's also clear written historical evidence by those who didn't want him around that Jesus existed too. I think those who want to doubt either would believe even if either reappeared in front of them with photo id and a NI number."

What historical evidence of those that didnt want him around is there?

Show me evidence of:

The census at the time of his birth

Herod and quirrinius sat thrones simultaneously

Nazareth existed at the time of his birth

The slaughter of the innocents

His trial and crucifixion

Any of his miracles

Having read academic and respected literature on biblical history for about 15 years i have yet to find a single totally credible piece of evidence for any of the above

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am."

What a guy to die so we can all have a long weekend, respect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wise man "we were led by a star".

Brian's mother "led by the bottle you mean"

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Wise man "we were led by a star".

Brian's mother "led by the bottle you mean""

Sneaking around a stable at 3 in the morning? Doesn't sound very wise to me

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over a year ago


"Wise man "we were led by a star".

Brian's mother "led by the bottle you mean"

Sneaking around a stable at 3 in the morning? Doesn't sound very wise to me"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reg "If you want to join the People's Front of Judea you have to really hate the Romans".

Brian "I do"!.

Reg "Oh ye how much?".

Brian. "A lot".

Reg," Right you're in"!

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

Romani ite domum!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brian's mother" What star sign is he"?

Wise man," Capricorn".

Brians mother.

" Capricorn hey what are they like"?

Wise man." He is the son of God ,The Messiah".

Second wise man ",King of the Jews".

Brian's mother" And that's Capricorn is it"?

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Brian's mother" What star sign is he"?

Wise man," Capricorn".

Brians mother.

" Capricorn hey what are they like"?

Wise man." He is the son of God ,The Messiah".

Second wise man ",King of the Jews".

Brian's mother" And that's Capricorn is it"?"

No ... just him

Oh ... just as well otherwise there'd be a lot of them about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

No one doubts he existed

No one? Really??? Sweeping in the generalisations there

.

*seeing how well this thread is going, shakes head and retires to something more challenging, ooo snog, fuck, lick .. hmm*

You doubt Ghandi existed? I think there's plenty of historical, written and verbal evidence to show that.

There's also clear written historical evidence by those who didn't want him around that Jesus existed too. I think those who want to doubt either would believe even if either reappeared in front of them with photo id and a NI number.

What historical evidence of those that didnt want him around is there?

Show me evidence of:

The census at the time of his birth

Herod and quirrinius sat thrones simultaneously

Nazareth existed at the time of his birth

The slaughter of the innocents

His trial and crucifixion

Any of his miracles

Having read academic and respected literature on biblical history for about 15 years i have yet to find a single totally credible piece of evidence for any of the above"
you got to believe in something though surely! I believe some would call me a hypocrite & my child had a Christian education

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What has Europe ever done for us,?

well, apart from the market of 500 million people ,the regional grants,the access to the market,the support for our universities!

David Cameron on the EU (Biggus Dickus)

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over a year ago


"HE died for our sins, because HE/GOD made an error giving man them in the first place.

No thanks, I'll take care of atoning for my wrong doings with the specific people in question.

This blanket forgiveness is not helpful thank you very much. "

I don't think you really understand how forgiveness works according to Christians. It's not simply "forgive me God" and all is forgiven.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stan."It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them"!

Reg. "You can't HAVE babies"

Stan."Don't you oppress me" !

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

Blessed are the Greek

For they shall inhibit their girth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

No one doubts he existed

No one? Really??? Sweeping in the generalisations there

.

*seeing how well this thread is going, shakes head and retires to something more challenging, ooo snog, fuck, lick .. hmm*

You doubt Ghandi existed? I think there's plenty of historical, written and verbal evidence to show that.

There's also clear written historical evidence by those who didn't want him around that Jesus existed too. I think those who want to doubt either would believe even if either reappeared in front of them with photo id and a NI number.

What historical evidence of those that didnt want him around is there?

Show me evidence of:

The census at the time of his birth

Herod and quirrinius sat thrones simultaneously

Nazareth existed at the time of his birth

The slaughter of the innocents

His trial and crucifixion

Any of his miracles

Having read academic and respected literature on biblical history for about 15 years i have yet to find a single totally credible piece of evidence for any of the above you got to believe in something though surely! I believe some would call me a hypocrite & my child had a Christian education "

I wouldn't call you a hypocrite but please don't call him Shirley

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Blessed are the Greek

For they shall inhibit their girth"

its not the Greeks it's the Chinese he's after

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Blessed are the Greek

For they shall inhibit their girth

its not the Greeks it's the Chinese he's after"
come on red monkey next line

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Blessed are the Greek

For they shall inhibit their girth

its not the Greeks it's the Chinese he's after come on red monkey next line"

I'm not after the Chinese!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Blessed are the Greek

For they shall inhibit their girth

its not the Greeks it's the Chinese he's after come on red monkey next line

I'm not after the Chinese!!!!"

ye. i like the near next one " Bloody Greeks- they invented gayness"

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Blessed are the Greek

For they shall inhibit their girth

its not the Greeks it's the Chinese he's after come on red monkey next line

I'm not after the Chinese!!!!

ye. i like the near next one " Bloody Greeks- they invented gayness""

Not a massive FT fan si will take your word for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

No one doubts he existed

No one? Really??? Sweeping in the generalisations there

.

*seeing how well this thread is going, shakes head and retires to something more challenging, ooo snog, fuck, lick .. hmm*

You doubt Ghandi existed? I think there's plenty of historical, written and verbal evidence to show that.

There's also clear written historical evidence by those who didn't want him around that Jesus existed too. I think those who want to doubt either would believe even if either reappeared in front of them with photo id and a NI number.

What historical evidence of those that didnt want him around is there?

Show me evidence of:

The census at the time of his birth

Herod and quirrinius sat thrones simultaneously

Nazareth existed at the time of his birth

The slaughter of the innocents

His trial and crucifixion

Any of his miracles

Having read academic and respected literature on biblical history for about 15 years i have yet to find a single totally credible piece of evidence for any of the above you got to believe in something though surely! I believe some would call me a hypocrite & my child had a Christian education

I wouldn't call you a hypocrite but please don't call him Shirley "
haha

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

No one doubts he existed

No one? Really??? Sweeping in the generalisations there

.

*seeing how well this thread is going, shakes head and retires to something more challenging, ooo snog, fuck, lick .. hmm*

You doubt Ghandi existed? I think there's plenty of historical, written and verbal evidence to show that.

There's also clear written historical evidence by those who didn't want him around that Jesus existed too. I think those who want to doubt either would believe even if either reappeared in front of them with photo id and a NI number.

What historical evidence of those that didnt want him around is there?

Show me evidence of:

The census at the time of his birth

Herod and quirrinius sat thrones simultaneously

Nazareth existed at the time of his birth

The slaughter of the innocents

His trial and crucifixion

Any of his miracles

Having read academic and respected literature on biblical history for about 15 years i have yet to find a single totally credible piece of evidence for any of the above you got to believe in something though surely! I believe some would call me a hypocrite & my child had a Christian education

I wouldn't call you a hypocrite but please don't call him Shirley haha "

Im an atheist so i reject the theist position. Im an adeist as well but thats another story! I think its the duty of any person to be really well educated about religion if they choose to take a position. A Christian should be sound in their theology or they dont understand enough of their religion to say they believe...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if you take away all the myths/mirace add-ons,

I think the nearest to what Jesus was really like was Ghandhi..just my opinion

There's stuff come out about about Ghandi that would shiver your timbers, about his family home life, written by a family member two generations afterwards. A film was made and met violent opposition in India.

two generations afterwards is longer than the First gospel writings so maybe pinch of salt (pun intended)

No one doubts he existed

No one? Really??? Sweeping in the generalisations there

.

*seeing how well this thread is going, shakes head and retires to something more challenging, ooo snog, fuck, lick .. hmm*

You doubt Ghandi existed? I think there's plenty of historical, written and verbal evidence to show that.

There's also clear written historical evidence by those who didn't want him around that Jesus existed too. I think those who want to doubt either would believe even if either reappeared in front of them with photo id and a NI number.

What historical evidence of those that didnt want him around is there?

Show me evidence of:

The census at the time of his birth

Herod and quirrinius sat thrones simultaneously

Nazareth existed at the time of his birth

The slaughter of the innocents

His trial and crucifixion

Any of his miracles

Having read academic and respected literature on biblical history for about 15 years i have yet to find a single totally credible piece of evidence for any of the above"

Just a quick search seems to indicate there were 3 major census done within few years of each other.

"Records exist to show that Roman-controlled Egypt had begun a census as early as 10 B.C. and it was repeated every 14 years. And Augustus himself notes in his Res Gestae (The Deeds of Augustus) that he ordered three wide-spread censuses of Roman citizens, one in 28B.C., one in 8 B.C. and one in 14 A.D.2 In between there are several other censuses that happened locally across Rome."

Maybe you will dismiss the Res Gestate and the records as non credible.

The slaughter of the innocents has plenty of historical evidence.

I'd say whatever evidence may put to you, sounds like you'd dismiss it anyway as you've already researched very extensively.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am.

I don't believe in fairy tales.

""Fairy tales ""......it is NOT !!

No? OK, prove it.

I don't need to, I just have Faith and believe.....

Faith is hardly a reliable path to truth.

Why not?

The chair you just sat on, did you analysis it's capabilities, joints and structure before you sat in it? Yet you had faith that it would support you. We use faith in every day activities without a second thought.

You haven't replied to my last comment.

Is there anything that I couldn't believe based on faith?

And we can make reasonable analytical judgements about chairs by testing. The chair I just sat in has supported me in the past, I have a decent amount of evidence that it is sturdy.

It has, but the first time, you had no evidence it would support you other than faith, yet I'd guess you never thought twice about sitting in it, that my point. Same with getting in a new car and driving it, your faith is that someone else says its road worthy and the brakes will stop you. We exercise faith every day based upon what others have said or done without personal experience, then we developed a personal faith as we gain personal experience. That faith often replaces the faith we had in anothers experience."

Once again, I have data in the roadworthiness of new cars because I do my research. Similar with chairs, I will test a new chair.

Now, is there ANY position that I couldn't take based on faith?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Take solace in the fact that in this country you're unlikely to get blown up for going to church on Easter Sunday.

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By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Today starts easter and it is a big celebration in christianity, today marks the crucifixion of jesus, are you celebrating and thinking of him? I am."

Nah.

I'm more of a frisbeetarian these days, had to leave pastafarianism behind because apparently you can't go carb free and still be a member (way to go Carl, nice info that would have been for the fucking start mate)

Efbees don't mind about your carb load and you don't have to wear an eye patch (I kept walking into shit)

Hope you manage to incorporate haribos into your murder/zombie/cannibalism ritual.

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By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"No and how can you celebrate such an apparently important event on a different date each year"

Movable feast.

Literally.

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By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Nope... I don't do any of the religious festivals, due to uncontrollable atheism "

Not even international talk like a pirate day?!?

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By *orksRockerMan
over a year ago

Bradford


"HE died for our sins, because HE/GOD made an error giving man them in the first place.

No thanks, I'll take care of atoning for my wrong doings with the specific people in question.

This blanket forgiveness is not helpful thank you very much.

I don't think you really understand how forgiveness works according to Christians. It's not simply "forgive me God" and all is forgiven."

You ask two 'Christians' the same question on belief and you will get two answers. Each has their own way of interpretation of the WORD. I'm sure you have your own ideas but they are never consistent.

As for original sin, which is why Jesus came to earth in the first place, is a ridiculous concept. As long as you accept my WORD, you get a free pass to heaven. Don't believe in me and its hell, torture and damnation. HE can keep your threats to HIMSELF and the I'll live my life as I choose. X

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over a year ago

I have done another thread we can continue on.

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