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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

An April's morning 2019, in West Yorkshire. Never did I imagine this would happen ...

I line up in a queue to be served in an orderly fashion. A couple of builder type of guys a friendly looking lady and a kid not older than 8yrs old(all white). 2 Girls serving behind counter(1 asian,1 white) and me the brown Brit.

The kid starts shouting 'Go back to Pakistan'(not all brown people originate from there, ya know lol) and the 2 guys and the friendly looking woman just laugh. He repeatedly keeps shouting this and the adults keep laughing

What do you do ?

In my trivial way I just said 'it's a good job I don't understand English' ...

And then upon being served I said to the Asian girl that I would have refused to serve people like that.

Was I right to leave it at just that or should I take this further?

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

Awful

The women serving probably ignore it rather than getting confrontational because the little shit would probably put their windows through.

Sad state of affairs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I call the 2 servers girls because they were no more than 18yrs old. What affected me the most was the 'friendly' looking woman, not so much the guys with the kid. The woman could have been his mum and she just laughed instead of calming the kid down. The more they laughed the more the kid started saying it.

This incident has affected me in a way I never thought possible. What are all these friendly faces really thinking about me or people with my origins.

I am thick skinned and grew up around all different skin colours and in my younger days always treated skin colour jokes etc as banter. Never was I told to go back to where my parents could originate from.

This from a kid ...

Unbelievable

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sad state of affairs, I'm not sure what I would have done, I'd like to think I would have said something but honestly don't know.

I was speaking to someone recently who told me about a school that had arranged a visit to a mosque for year 1 kids. Out of 27 in the class only 5 were given permission to visit from parents/ carers. How can we break down barriers and prejudices if we dont allow our minds to be opened.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d have said something if I was there. God knows what but I know I would have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can always think of better ways to react with hindsight

The problem isn't yours to address though (although clearly it does impacts upon you), its with the twats shouting the insults to realise what they're doing wrong and sadly a reaction from you is never going to penetrate their neanderthal....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d have said something if I was there. God knows what but I know I would have. "

Exactly this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was the parent with the child? I’d have knocked mine into the middle of next week!

Makes me so angry this shit does.

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

"Was the parent with the child? I’d have knocked mine into the middle of next week!

Makes me so angry this shit does. "

Chances are it’s his parents he’s heard it from sadly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Was the parent with the child? I’d have knocked mine into the middle of next week!

Makes me so angry this shit does.

Chances are it’s his parents he’s heard it from sadly. "

So true unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour ."

The tables could have turned and I could have been seen as the bad one for speaking out to a kid.

If the kid has venom coming from his mouth could you imagine what the adults would be capable of ...

This is the unsettling thought.

It felt like to try and justify anything would have got me in a more dangerous situation.

So I just had to keep quiet and make a comment as I did and hope they would understand that I felt uncomfortable.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

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Happened me for being Irish in the UK, just get over it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

The tables could have turned and I could have been seen as the bad one for speaking out to a kid.

If the kid has venom coming from his mouth could you imagine what the adults would be capable of ...

This is the unsettling thought.

It felt like to try and justify anything would have got me in a more dangerous situation.

So I just had to keep quiet and make a comment as I did and hope they would understand that I felt uncomfortable.

Tue, some parents just can't be wrong.... I've had parents wanting to fight me and accusing me of being a pedo just for asking them to move their car off my driveway.... (I live near a school)....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour ."

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock"

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to get comments like that all the time from other kids growing up in a white middle class town in the late 70's 80's.

Once a middle aged woman pushed in front of me in a queue and told me to get out of the way you little fucking paki.

I was about 10.

My mum was white British and my dad black Caribbean

As an adult I can see that this woman was a racist idiot.

But I remember going home and crying about it.

Children are taught racism- it's 2019 and people still think this way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words.... "

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude"

I own a nine year old, talking works.....

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

I used to get comments like that all the time from other kids growing up in a white middle class town in the late 70's 80's.

Once a middle aged woman pushed in front of me in a queue and told me to get out of the way you little fucking paki.

I was about 10.

My mum was white British and my dad black Caribbean

As an adult I can see that this woman was a racist idiot.

But I remember going home and crying about it.

Children are taught racism- it's 2019 and people still think this way

They are taught, they certainly aren’t born that way. It’s just awful

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Happened me for being Irish in the UK, just get over it."

I am sure I will

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Just keep papering over the cracks..

It's an ugly reality if this is being taught to future generations.

I have never considered myself better or worse than anyone because of my skin colour or my origins.

We should all think like this and be teaching this to our kids.

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

I’m afraid with brexit, trump, and the rise of EDL people with these attitudes are emboldened to spew their vitriol about anyone different to themselves.

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By *lly24Man
over a year ago

Manchester.

i'm not surprised to be honest, racism is pretty rife. The only difference being people are expressing their views more openly and not afraid to do so.

i'm british asian and this happens many a time. Things like brexit certainly haven't helped, but for a second we must also remember that this notion also stems from the behaviour of certain communities

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Do you start alienating and hate mongering whole communities for the behaviour of the few ?

Not a humane approach ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm really sorry to hear that OP.

It wasn't acceptable in the 60's and 70's never mind now.

As to what to do? I have no experience per se of behaviour like that (well apart from threats of violence but thats another story). I am horrified that the crowd turned a blind eye and found it funny somehow. However, reprimanding the "little darlings" may have caused an escalation.

I live in hope that one day we as a species can evolve enough to look back in horror at events like this and can treat everyone as equals. I fear we won't though.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude"

Perhaps a swift hard kick in his eight year old bollocks would have done the trick

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

Perhaps a swift hard kick in his eight year old bollocks would have done the trick"

Terrible advice and a great way to get on all sorts of lists

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

Perhaps a swift hard kick in his eight year old bollocks would have done the trick

Terrible advice and a great way to get on all sorts of lists

What lists?

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

Perhaps a swift hard kick in his eight year old bollocks would have done the trick

Terrible advice and a great way to get on all sorts of lists

What lists? "

You know it was shite advice, whether it’s an arrest for assault on a minor or sexual assault because balls involved either isn’t an optimal outcome.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

Perhaps a swift hard kick in his eight year old bollocks would have done the trick"

A violent approach never entered my mind. That's against the principles I have been brought up with.

A stern word or 2 might have been the better approach but then how would the people around him react, they seemed to be encouraging him.

When you are a minority in such a situation the tables can easily be turned on me. As mentioned by others in this thread the political climate and media portrayal of events around the world would not have been in my favour. That is the sad part.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where do you think the kid learnt "Go back to Pakistan" From? They're hardly going to stop it if they were the ones teaching it.

Being of the *High vis vest* Variety of worker, I witness some sides of this you may not. Like what happens when you leave the shop. What s sometimes said once you've left the room. Where the stupid, ignorant fucks think it's ok to be their honest racist selves because Browny left the building.

If it helps, I'm one of those people who is a constant thorn in their side. Ready to educate the ignorant, whether they want it or not, if it's voiced within earshot , whoever said it.

We're not all cowardly scumbags. I'd say I'm sorry on behalf of of Britain, but it's not my country. Never was, never will be, just a miserable rain sodden spit of land I happened to be born on.

Walk tall brother

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

Perhaps a swift hard kick in his eight year old bollocks would have done the trick

Terrible advice and a great way to get on all sorts of lists

What lists?

You know it was shite advice, whether it’s an arrest for assault on a minor or sexual assault because balls involved either isn’t an optimal outcome. "

It was more a humorous comment than real advice. As regrettable as any offensive remark always is, and with reference to comments from Genkis - name a more racially tolerant country than the UK? A genuine question, as a white guy in a predominately white society I appreciate I’m not best placed to comment on racist abuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

Perhaps a swift hard kick in his eight year old bollocks would have done the trick

Terrible advice and a great way to get on all sorts of lists

What lists?

You know it was shite advice, whether it’s an arrest for assault on a minor or sexual assault because balls involved either isn’t an optimal outcome.

Its not a competition. intolerance in a tolerant country is still intolerance.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

Perhaps a swift hard kick in his eight year old bollocks would have done the trick

Terrible advice and a great way to get on all sorts of lists

What lists?

You know it was shite advice, whether it’s an arrest for assault on a minor or sexual assault because balls involved either isn’t an optimal outcome.

Its not a competition. intolerance in a tolerant country is still intolerance."

I get that. But perhaps miserable rain sodden UK is not such a bad place after all?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

Perhaps a swift hard kick in his eight year old bollocks would have done the trick

Terrible advice and a great way to get on all sorts of lists

What lists?

You know it was shite advice, whether it’s an arrest for assault on a minor or sexual assault because balls involved either isn’t an optimal outcome.

Its not a competition. intolerance in a tolerant country is still intolerance.

I get that. But perhaps miserable rain sodden UK is not such a bad place after all? "

I'm not judging based on how xenophobic we are as a country. I'm basing it on a lot more things than that. It's not the Great place many seem to be falsely proud and nationalistic about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

Perhaps a swift hard kick in his eight year old bollocks would have done the trick

Terrible advice and a great way to get on all sorts of lists

What lists?

You know it was shite advice, whether it’s an arrest for assault on a minor or sexual assault because balls involved either isn’t an optimal outcome. "

Did you really think he was being serious?

I dispair

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By *electableDalliancesCouple
over a year ago

leeds

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

Perhaps a swift hard kick in his eight year old bollocks would have done the trick

Terrible advice and a great way to get on all sorts of lists

What lists?

You know it was shite advice, whether it’s an arrest for assault on a minor or sexual assault because balls involved either isn’t an optimal outcome.

Did you really think he was being serious?

I dispair "

I thinks it’s unlikely he would do it, but it was a stupid thing to say. It annoyed me so I reacted.It happens.

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

Seen in far off places

Just out of curiosity OP, what shop was you in?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just out of curiosity OP, what shop was you in?"

I don't see this question to be relevant. It was in England, a country I am proud to live in.

Would it change your view on the situation if you knew ?

It's a nationwide chain with more than one outlet in most major cities. I will never be using that one ever again.

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

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"Just out of curiosity OP, what shop was you in?

I don't see this question to be relevant. It was in England, a country I am proud to live in.

Would it change your view on the situation if you knew ?

It's a nationwide chain with more than one outlet in most major cities. I will never be using that one ever again. "

Ah, I see - not Waitrose then.

As I thought...

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

"Was the parent with the child? I’d have knocked mine into the middle of next week!

Makes me so angry this shit does. "

He probable for this behaviour from his parents.

Confronting the child may have angered the adults with the child and exasperated the situation further.though situation - very hard to expect small minded fools to act in a civilised manner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Where do you think the kid learnt "Go back to Pakistan" From? They're hardly going to stop it if they were the ones teaching it.

If it helps, I'm one of those people who is a constant thorn in their side. Ready to educate the ignorant, whether they want it or not, if it's voiced within earshot , whoever said it.

We're not all cowardly scumbags. I'd say I'm sorry on behalf of of Britain, but it's not my country. Never was, never will be, just a miserable rain sodden spit of land I happened to be born on.

Walk tall brother

I agree wholeheartedly. Part of my family is mixed race, and I simply can’t keep my mouth shut around people with archaic and ridiculous opinions concerning people of a different race. They pass on their small minded and vile views to their offspring, who deem it their given right to harass and victimise people. Shameful

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

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I am a white woman and if I'd been in the queue I'd have found that very upsetting. I would have wanted to show some kind of solidarity I dont know quite how.

I have found myself in this kind of situation before and it doesn't always end well.

It's particularly upsetting that this is from the mouth of a child. children don't see colour or differences unless taught them from others behaviour.

I fear that you would have become the bad man in this scenario if you had spoken out to child or parent. It's sad a sad state of affairs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just out of curiosity OP, what shop was you in?

I don't see this question to be relevant. It was in England, a country I am proud to live in.

Would it change your view on the situation if you knew ?

It's a nationwide chain with more than one outlet in most major cities. I will never be using that one ever again. "

Why is it the shop/ chain's fault?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"An April's morning 2019, in West Yorkshire. Never did I imagine this would happen ...

What do you do ?

In my trivial way I just said 'it's a good job I don't understand English' ...

And then upon being served I said to the Asian girl that I would have refused to serve people like that.

Was I right to leave it at just that or should I take this further?

How would you take it further?

Was the kid shouting at you or the asian girl?

If I was there I probably wouldn't say anything as idiots like that would just kick off. They don't deserve a reaction.

I would have given you/ her a supportive smile and some sort of look that said "what the absolute fuck" in an attempt at making you feel better. While knowing it wouldn't at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Happened me for being Irish in the UK, just get over it."

Don't forget, a hell of a lot of Irish are racist too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Worked in the building trade for 40 years or so and the racism you encounter from apprentices to older blokes is horrendous.

Probably best to rise above it as you did, taking the morally superior higher ground.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"An April's morning 2019, in West Yorkshire. Never did I imagine this would happen ...

What do you do ?

In my trivial way I just said 'it's a good job I don't understand English' ...

And then upon being served I said to the Asian girl that I would have refused to serve people like that.

Was I right to leave it at just that or should I take this further?

How would you take it further?

Was the kid shouting at you or the asian girl?

If I was there I probably wouldn't say anything as idiots like that would just kick off. They don't deserve a reaction.

I would have given you/ her a supportive smile and some sort of look that said "what the absolute fuck" in an attempt at making you feel better. While knowing it wouldn't at all. "

I'd have probably gone all 'White knight' Turned to the child and said in quite a loud voice "That's a very nasty thing to say". Waited for a parental reaction.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"An April's morning 2019, in West Yorkshire. Never did I imagine this would happen ...

What do you do ?

In my trivial way I just said 'it's a good job I don't understand English' ...

And then upon being served I said to the Asian girl that I would have refused to serve people like that.

Was I right to leave it at just that or should I take this further?

How would you take it further?

Was the kid shouting at you or the asian girl?

If I was there I probably wouldn't say anything as idiots like that would just kick off. They don't deserve a reaction.

I would have given you/ her a supportive smile and some sort of look that said "what the absolute fuck" in an attempt at making you feel better. While knowing it wouldn't at all.

I'd have probably gone all 'White knight' Turned to the child and said in quite a loud voice "That's a very nasty thing to say". Waited for a parental reaction."

Very difficult to say for sure, without being there at the time, but I like to think I’d have said the same as the above.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Worked in the building trade for 40 years or so and the racism you encounter from apprentices to older blokes is horrendous.

Probably best to rise above it as you did, taking the morally superior higher ground."

So true! They buy the sun/daily mail or any of the garbage papers and sit in their vans giving out about 'foreigners' I spent 6 months on a site and it was so sad to hear the uneducated, backwards comments on almost a daily basis I just had to keep my mouth shut because I needed the money. I'd never give these sort of people any of my time or energy. Just a waste.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just out of curiosity OP, what shop was you in?

I don't see this question to be relevant. It was in England, a country I am proud to live in.

Would it change your view on the situation if you knew ?

It's a nationwide chain with more than one outlet in most major cities. I will never be using that one ever again.

Ah, I see - not Waitrose then.

As I thought..."

Again irrelevant.

In my lifetime some of the most hospitable people have been from lesser privileged backgrounds, both here and abroad.

If that's the point your trying to make ..

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over a year ago

"Just out of curiosity OP, what shop was you in?

I don't see this question to be relevant. It was in England, a country I am proud to live in.

Would it change your view on the situation if you knew ?

It's a nationwide chain with more than one outlet in most major cities. I will never be using that one ever again.

Why is it the shop/ chain's fault? "

Would you want to go somewhere again where you felt completely humiliated because of the colour of your skin. What other reason did the kid have to shout ...

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over a year ago

Walk tall brother

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By *irth.Minge.FireMan
over a year ago

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"Just out of curiosity OP, what shop was you in?

I don't see this question to be relevant. It was in England, a country I am proud to live in.

Would it change your view on the situation if you knew ?

It's a nationwide chain with more than one outlet in most major cities. I will never be using that one ever again.

Ah, I see - not Waitrose then.

As I thought...

Again irrelevant.

In my lifetime some of the most hospitable people have been from lesser privileged backgrounds, both here and abroad.

If that's the point your trying to make .."

Asda?

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over a year ago

"Just out of curiosity OP, what shop was you in?

I don't see this question to be relevant. It was in England, a country I am proud to live in.

Would it change your view on the situation if you knew ?

It's a nationwide chain with more than one outlet in most major cities. I will never be using that one ever again.

Ah, I see - not Waitrose then.

As I thought...

Again irrelevant.

In my lifetime some of the most hospitable people have been from lesser privileged backgrounds, both here and abroad.

If that's the point your trying to make ..

Asda?

Getting closer in terms of Alphabetical order... Don't want to encourage a boycott of the chain. I like what they have to offer on the odd occasion

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over a year ago

"Worked in the building trade for 40 years or so and the racism you encounter from apprentices to older blokes is horrendous.

Probably best to rise above it as you did, taking the morally superior higher ground.

I've heard wealthy, educated "Professional" People speak in a disgusting way. They just tend to wait till they're in the saftey of their own home and pissed.. before unleashing the beast.

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over a year ago

When I read tales like this it really makes me wonder what kinda creatures you all live amongst

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over a year ago

"Worked in the building trade for 40 years or so and the racism you encounter from apprentices to older blokes is horrendous.

Probably best to rise above it as you did, taking the morally superior higher ground.

I've heard wealthy, educated "Professional" People speak in a disgusting way. They just tend to wait till they're in the saftey of their own home and pissed.. before unleashing the beast.

Absolutely, it's in every class of people. Why can't everyone just be sound to everyone.

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"Just out of curiosity OP, what shop was you in?

I don't see this question to be relevant. It was in England, a country I am proud to live in.

Would it change your view on the situation if you knew ?

It's a nationwide chain with more than one outlet in most major cities. I will never be using that one ever again.

Why is it the shop/ chain's fault?

Would you want to go somewhere again where you felt completely humiliated because of the colour of your skin. What other reason did the kid have to shout ... "

That's not the shop's fault though is it. I wouldn't stop going somewhere because of some rude kid and crap parent.

Unless I felt it was the type of local area that had that view, then no I wouldn't go back.

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over a year ago

"Worked in the building trade for 40 years or so and the racism you encounter from apprentices to older blokes is horrendous.

Probably best to rise above it as you did, taking the morally superior higher ground.

I've heard wealthy, educated "Professional" People speak in a disgusting way. They just tend to wait till they're in the saftey of their own home and pissed.. before unleashing the beast.

Absolutely, it's in every class of people. Why can't everyone just be sound to everyone. "

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By *organ and rob zombieCouple
over a year ago

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Found this pretty difficult to digest and process really! How Such an awful attitude could be taught and encouraged by “adults” to a child makes me feel really really sad!

I’m not sure what I’d have done had I been there if I’m honest, as I’m not particularly confrontational. I could imagine me just letting out a sarcastic “wow” accompanied by a look of “did those words really just come from your little darlings mind??” Actually gutted OP!

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over a year ago

Thank you for the kind words. I understand that this was an isolated incident and the majority of this Great nation wants to keep that spirit by being inclusive and respectful of all communities. We welcome human life that has been torn by war or regimes that are oppressive, and allow them a fresh start. We need to keep this spirit alive in our kids.

This for me is Great Britain

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"Worked in the building trade for 40 years or so and the racism you encounter from apprentices to older blokes is horrendous.

Probably best to rise above it as you did, taking the morally superior higher ground.

I've heard wealthy, educated "Professional" People speak in a disgusting way. They just tend to wait till they're in the saftey of their own home and pissed.. before unleashing the beast.

Absolutely, it's in every class of people. Why can't everyone just be sound to everyone. "

Because then people wpuldnt have some vauge racist bogie man to point to while they virtue signal how wonderful they are

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over a year ago

"Was the parent with the child? I’d have knocked mine into the middle of next week!

Makes me so angry this shit does. "

You wouldn't because your child wouldn't do it in the first place.

If that was his mother with him then she condones that type of behaviour.

Others around them also.. Just uneducated fools.

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over a year ago

"Absolutely appalling .

I would have asked him to justify it . Loud and clear I’d have said “ excuse me but why ? “ and embarrassed him and the twats that laughed thinking it was funny .

Despicable behaviour .

You will never ever embarrass or win a public shouting match with an 8 year old.

Never going to happen you'll just look like a cock

I disagree, but don't shout, just speak calm wise words....

To a shouting 8 yesr old?

Good luck with that dude

I own a nine year old, talking works..... "

You shouldn't compare your child with that whatever that was.

You are teaching your child nice things for years and that one had a completely opposite teaching system about life and values.

It won't change him or convince him that something like that is wrong.

By the looks of it others around thim would have just backed him up..

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"Was the parent with the child? I’d have knocked mine into the middle of next week!

Makes me so angry this shit does.

You wouldn't because your child wouldn't do it in the first place.

If that was his mother with him then she condones that type of behaviour.

Others around them also.. Just uneducated fools."

True. No way in a million years would either of mine say or do anything like that. In fact they wouldn’t even think it never mind say it. Very sad.

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

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I don't really like children all that much so would have probably just said something more nasty back to him and hoped to upset him more than he upset you. Not big or clever but fuck it, make the little cunt feel shit too.

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"Just out of curiosity OP, what shop was you in?

I don't see this question to be relevant. It was in England, a country I am proud to live in.

Would it change your view on the situation if you knew ?

It's a nationwide chain with more than one outlet in most major cities. I will never be using that one ever again.

Why is it the shop/ chain's fault?

Would you want to go somewhere again where you felt completely humiliated because of the colour of your skin. What other reason did the kid have to shout ...

That's not the shop's fault though is it. I wouldn't stop going somewhere because of some rude kid and crap parent.

Unless I felt it was the type of local area that had that view, then no I wouldn't go back. "

You have answered your own question in a roundabout way ...

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over a year ago

I think that you said/did the right thing in the circumstances.

I'm nearly fifty, mixed race, english/carribean and brought up in english/white culture. What you experienced and saw is nothing new in all my years but I would say I have only suffered a small percentage of racism and it is as mentioned from others, racism being taught. Doesn't matter what background a person is from, the area, to whether someone is racist or not.

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over a year ago

I think I did the right thing too. My life seems a bit more normal today, it's taken a few days for a new layer of skin to appear

Common sense will prevail

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