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"Continue here, it was interesting to see the replies. I will change it abit and ask, does a successful civilisation have religion as number 1? I reckon it does." How are you gauging the success ? | |||
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"Continue here, it was interesting to see the replies. I will change it abit and ask, does a successful civilisation have religion as number 1? I reckon it does. How are you gauging the success ? " I am not sure. I would say by having many members practicing the religion and to have some kind of dominance with it in the world, you? | |||
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"Secular societies proven to be more succesful, happier, more moral " | |||
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"Secular societies proven to be more succesful, happier, more moral " Really ? More successful at what ? In what way ? | |||
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"Continue here, it was interesting to see the replies. I will change it abit and ask, does a successful civilisation have religion as number 1? I reckon it does. How are you gauging the success ? I am not sure. I would say by having many members practicing the religion and to have some kind of dominance with it in the world, you?" Oh fuck me..... so a religion is successful according to it's number of followers and it's dominance over others.... That's not my mark of a successful society. You said society. | |||
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"My grandad used to jokingly call me a heathen for not being christened. I like the name " I was never Christened. I was ill 'apparently' They'd bought a whole ox tongue too shame. I've never lived it down. | |||
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"I will change it abit and ask, does a successful civilisation have religion as number 1? " I believe that a happy nation of people is a religious nation. | |||
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"My grandad used to jokingly call me a heathen for not being christened. I like the name I was never Christened. I was ill 'apparently' They'd bought a whole ox tongue too shame. I've never lived it down." I was born during the miners strike. I guess they had other things to worry about | |||
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"Shag. I asked on the last thread for you to define success in terms of a societies success. Until a definition is agreed there can be no discussion on that topic. Not a sensible one anyway. You'll get all the fire and brimstone people trotting in and attacking posters for being non believers. Scary little things they are. Very angry." I would say by world domination where everyone is following the message by the religion, you? | |||
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"Secular societies proven to be more succesful, happier, more moral Really ? More successful at what ? In what way ?" It's a very good point gc I think on any agreed definition, one would not be able to objectively distinguish one is more anything than the other | |||
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"Secular societies proven to be more succesful, happier, more moral Really ? More successful at what ? In what way ? It's a very good point gc I think on any agreed definition, one would not be able to objectively distinguish one is more anything than the other " democratic nations today that are the most secular, such as Scandinavia, Japan, Australia, the Netherlands, etc., are faring much better on nearly every single indicator of well-being imaginable than the most religious nations on earth today, | |||
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"Imigine the world with no religion! it would be 'heaven' excuse the pun " Lol!! | |||
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"I will change it abit and ask, does a successful civilisation have religion as number 1? I believe that a happy nation of people is a religious nation. " Name one? USA? Uk? Pakistan? Israel? Ffs | |||
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"Shag. I asked on the last thread for you to define success in terms of a societies success. Until a definition is agreed there can be no discussion on that topic. Not a sensible one anyway. You'll get all the fire and brimstone people trotting in and attacking posters for being non believers. Scary little things they are. Very angry.I would say by world domination where everyone is following the message by the religion, you?" It's a good start toward a definition shag...... now tell me ..... Are the people beaten into following the religion ..... as suggested by the word 'domination' ... OR do they follow willingly cos the religion is tickety boo! | |||
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"I will change it abit and ask, does a successful civilisation have religion as number 1? I believe that a happy nation of people is a religious nation. " Name one? USA? Uk? Pakistan? Israel? Ffs | |||
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"I will change it abit and ask, does a successful civilisation have religion as number 1? I believe that a happy nation of people is a religious nation. Name one? USA? Uk? Pakistan? Israel? Ffs " Im going FFS! | |||
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"Secular societies proven to be more succesful, happier, more moral Really ? More successful at what ? In what way ? It's a very good point gc I think on any agreed definition, one would not be able to objectively distinguish one is more anything than the other democratic nations today that are the most secular, such as Scandinavia, Japan, Australia, the Netherlands, etc., are faring much better on nearly every single indicator of well-being imaginable than the most religious nations on earth today, " Israel? | |||
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"I will change it abit and ask, does a successful civilisation have religion as number 1? I believe that a happy nation of people is a religious nation. Name one? USA? Uk? Pakistan? Israel? " Do you think of USA and UK as a religious nation? I don’t How about Filipinos, Seychellois, Fijians? | |||
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"I will change it abit and ask, does a successful civilisation have religion as number 1? I believe that a happy nation of people is a religious nation. Name one? USA? Uk? Pakistan? Israel? Do you think of USA and UK as a religious nation? I don’t How about Filipinos, Seychellois, Fijians? " Really??? USA massive Christian country that still shuns atheism. UK head of state is head of c of e | |||
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"Secular societies proven to be more succesful, happier, more moral Really ? More successful at what ? In what way ? It's a very good point gc I think on any agreed definition, one would not be able to objectively distinguish one is more anything than the other democratic nations today that are the most secular, such as Scandinavia, Japan, Australia, the Netherlands, etc., are faring much better on nearly every single indicator of well-being imaginable than the most religious nations on earth today, Israel?" Israel doing well??? | |||
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"I will change it abit and ask, does a successful civilisation have religion as number 1? I believe that a happy nation of people is a religious nation. Name one? USA? Uk? Pakistan? Israel? Ffs Im going FFS!" What?? | |||
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"Shags not the Messiah he's a very naughty boy, Now go on go away..." Just almost ch-oked laughing at this | |||
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"I will change it abit and ask, does a successful civilisation have religion as number 1? I believe that a happy nation of people is a religious nation. Name one? USA? Uk? Pakistan? Israel? Ffs Im going FFS! What??" I voted FFS! | |||
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"Religion is the poision in a any country and society, it closes people's minds, should be removed as a school subject to. " Disagree. Should be taught as history of how people are fooled into idiology of immorality! So I’m with you but against you lol | |||
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"I'm a atheist. And believe religion has been used for thousands of years to firstly try and explain what science could not back then and now its seems to be used to divide people. It's a nice thought about our loved ones going to better places and such. But on serious note imo its just simply not real.. (none of them) That's just my take on the matter of religion. " That’s just facts....we live, we die, game over. | |||
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"Shag. I asked on the last thread for you to define success in terms of a societies success. Until a definition is agreed there can be no discussion on that topic. Not a sensible one anyway. You'll get all the fire and brimstone people trotting in and attacking posters for being non believers. Scary little things they are. Very angry.I would say by world domination where everyone is following the message by the religion, you? It's a good start toward a definition shag...... now tell me ..... Are the people beaten into following the religion ..... as suggested by the word 'domination' ... OR do they follow willingly cos the religion is tickety boo! " No they shoudnt, but with any religion you will get atheist that cheery pick, such as wanting a religious marriage in a church and to have christmas, why you reckon they do that? | |||
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"Shag. I asked on the last thread for you to define success in terms of a societies success. Until a definition is agreed there can be no discussion on that topic. Not a sensible one anyway. You'll get all the fire and brimstone people trotting in and attacking posters for being non believers. Scary little things they are. Very angry.I would say by world domination where everyone is following the message by the religion, you? It's a good start toward a definition shag...... now tell me ..... Are the people beaten into following the religion ..... as suggested by the word 'domination' ... OR do they follow willingly cos the religion is tickety boo! No they shoudnt, but with any religion you will get atheist that cheery pick, such as wanting a religious marriage in a church and to have christmas, why you reckon they do that?" Or you'll get Christians that will cherry pick customs and traditions such as Christmas and Easter which were stolen and repackaged from older religions. | |||
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"Shag. I asked on the last thread for you to define success in terms of a societies success. Until a definition is agreed there can be no discussion on that topic. Not a sensible one anyway. You'll get all the fire and brimstone people trotting in and attacking posters for being non believers. Scary little things they are. Very angry.I would say by world domination where everyone is following the message by the religion, you? It's a good start toward a definition shag...... now tell me ..... Are the people beaten into following the religion ..... as suggested by the word 'domination' ... OR do they follow willingly cos the religion is tickety boo! No they shoudnt, but with any religion you will get atheist that cheery pick, such as wanting a religious marriage in a church and to have christmas, why you reckon they do that? Or you'll get Christians that will cherry pick customs and traditions such as Christmas and Easter which were stolen and repackaged from older religions. " And ignore god sanctioning slavery and genicide | |||
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"it Will always be baby Jesus born in a stable for me and his man was a virgin and his surrogate pop was a joiner well that’s what I was told at school " And his dad was first liar, according to the bible, his dad drowned every single baby and child on the planet, according to their bible, and his dad let him by crucified for sins he knew men would do anyway! What a nice dad!!! | |||
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"it Will always be baby Jesus born in a stable for me and his man was a virgin and his surrogate pop was a joiner well that’s what I was told at school And his dad was first liar, according to the bible, his dad drowned every single baby and child on the planet, according to their bible, and his dad let him by crucified for sins he knew men would do anyway! What a nice dad!!!" they didn’t tell us that at school | |||
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"it Will always be baby Jesus born in a stable for me and his man was a virgin and his surrogate pop was a joiner well that’s what I was told at school And his dad was first liar, according to the bible, his dad drowned every single baby and child on the planet, according to their bible, and his dad let him by crucified for sins he knew men would do anyway! What a nice dad!!! they didn’t tell us that at school " What a surprise! Hope they told you about evolution though?? Lol | |||
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"it Will always be baby Jesus born in a stable for me and his man was a virgin and his surrogate pop was a joiner well that’s what I was told at school And his dad was first liar, according to the bible, his dad drowned every single baby and child on the planet, according to their bible, and his dad let him by crucified for sins he knew men would do anyway! What a nice dad!!! they didn’t tell us that at school What a surprise! Hope they told you about evolution though?? Lol " I must of been absent that lesson | |||
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"it Will always be baby Jesus born in a stable for me and his man was a virgin and his surrogate pop was a joiner well that’s what I was told at school And his dad was first liar, according to the bible, his dad drowned every single baby and child on the planet, according to their bible, and his dad let him by crucified for sins he knew men would do anyway! What a nice dad!!! they didn’t tell us that at school What a surprise! Hope they told you about evolution though?? Lol I must of been absent that lesson " Like god? He’s been absent 2 thousand years!! Ha ha | |||
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"Religion should be a private matter. When it becomes mixed with politics that's an evil result, just look at the human rights abuses in places with fundamentalist religions. Worship Jesus, Woden, Huitzilopochtli, Batman or Aphrodite as you wish, just keep it to yourself and don't try and evangelise others. Respect other peoples' choices." Abuse in uk and yet that’s not considered fundamantalist. GM of boys still legal. | |||
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