FabSwingers.com forum: Should the retirement age be lowered for men

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So, on average in the uk make life expectancy is 3 years less than womens.

Should the retirement age be modified so that men retire and get thier state pension 3 years ealier than women to account for this gender disparity?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Retirement ages have to be the same sex these days. Imagine if ours was 65 and women's was 60. It wouldn't take a rocket science for a man to self identify as female on his 60th birthday to retire early would it....?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes if your job is physically challenging and wears out your knees and back.

No if you push paper.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Yes if your job is physically challenging and wears out your knees and back.

No if you push paper.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"So, on average in the uk make life expectancy is 3 years less than womens.

Should the retirement age be modified so that men retire and get thier state pension 3 years ealier than women to account for this gender disparity?"

Maybe. I think men have an equal right to struggle on a state pension for the same length of time as a woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I retired 3 years ago... bliss

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I retired 3 years ago... bliss "

Police or Fire ?

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

The retirement age should be reduced to 60 for all, then we should have 5 years of enjoyment before being either cut up for body parts or cat food.

It’s the only way we’ll fix the pensions, healthcare and housing crisis

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"The retirement age should be reduced to 60 for all, then we should have 5 years of enjoyment before being either cut up for body parts or cat food.

It’s the only way we’ll fix the pensions, healthcare and housing crisis

Get lost Adam.

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

"The retirement age should be reduced to 60 for all, then we should have 5 years of enjoyment before being either cut up for body parts or cat food.

It’s the only way we’ll fix the pensions, healthcare and housing crisis

Get lost Adam."

As lost as your sense of humour?

I thought it would be obvious that it wasn’t a sensible suggestion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I retired 3 years ago... bliss

Police or Fire ?"

Neither

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I retired 3 years ago... bliss

Police or Fire ?

Neither"

Well played then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, on average in the uk make life expectancy is 3 years less than womens.

Should the retirement age be modified so that men retire and get thier state pension 3 years ealier than women to account for this gender disparity?"

It will make no difference as eventually the state pension won’t exist. Everyone needs to find their own retirement provision from a young age.

I’ll have some of my mums as she only got one year of state pension. Swings and roundabouts.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I thought we were all living longer ( take a bow, NHS )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, on average in the uk make life expectancy is 3 years less than womens.

Should the retirement age be modified so that men retire and get thier state pension 3 years ealier than women to account for this gender disparity?

It will make no difference as eventually the state pension won’t exist. Everyone needs to find their own retirement provision from a young age.

I’ll have some of my mums as she only got one year of state pension. Swings and roundabouts. "

Eventually possiblybut not in anyone’s lifetime who is currently at work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, on average in the uk make life expectancy is 3 years less than womens.

Should the retirement age be modified so that men retire and get thier state pension 3 years ealier than women to account for this gender disparity?

It will make no difference as eventually the state pension won’t exist. Everyone needs to find their own retirement provision from a young age.

I’ll have some of my mums as she only got one year of state pension. Swings and roundabouts. "

For as long as I can remember, state pension has been predicted to disappear. It won’t happen as whichever party did it would never get in power again.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

It doesn’t really matter because most people will have to continue to work in some capacity to make ends meet. Unless they planned carefully when they were younger of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So we work an average of 5 years longer and live 3 years less than women. Where’s the sage who says it really is a mans world ?!

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I’m going at 55. If I have to do something less stressful to make ends meet I will do it with pride and a wry smile.

Planning for it now sadly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So we work an average of 5 years longer and live 3 years less than women. Where’s the sage who says it really is a mans world ?!"

You should look after your bodies better then.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

We retired five years ago. I won't receive my state pension until six years after I originally expected to. I think that redresses the balance slightly. I hope I live three years longer than my dad he's 92.

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

Only if the standard of living could be guaranteed.

Personally I can see me still working as they screw the lid on.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I’m going at 55. If I have to do something less stressful to make ends meet I will do it with pride and a wry smile.

Planning for it now sadly. "

Why sadly? When you reach 55 you will look back on one of the wisest life decisions you made.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"The retirement age should be reduced to 60 for all, then we should have 5 years of enjoyment before being either cut up for body parts or cat food.

It’s the only way we’ll fix the pensions, healthcare and housing crisis

Get lost Adam.

As lost as your sense of humour?

I thought it would be obvious that it wasn’t a sensible suggestion "

I took it as a joke. Check your own sense of humour.

I said get lost cos it leaves me one year on the planet....

Over to you Mr. Sensitive.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"So we work an average of 5 years longer and live 3 years less than women. Where’s the sage who says it really is a mans world ?!"

Yes but you don't work harder dear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So we work an average of 5 years longer and live 3 years less than women. Where’s the sage who says it really is a mans world ?!

Yes but you don't work harder dear."

The fact we have a shorter lifespan suggests we do, dear.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"So we work an average of 5 years longer and live 3 years less than women. Where’s the sage who says it really is a mans world ?!

Yes but you don't work harder dear.

The fact we have a shorter lifespan suggests we do, dear. "

No dear, the shorter lifespan is to do with usefulness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What are your thoughts OP?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Men live short brutal lives and women live long miserable lives.Said someone famous and dead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So we work an average of 5 years longer and live 3 years less than women. Where’s the sage who says it really is a mans world ?!

Yes but you don't work harder dear.

The fact we have a shorter lifespan suggests we do, dear.

No dear, the shorter lifespan is to do with usefulness."

I’ll remember that next time I’m building a house for a woman to live in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, on average in the uk make life expectancy is 3 years less than womens.

Should the retirement age be modified so that men retire and get thier state pension 3 years ealier than women to account for this gender disparity?

Maybe. I think men have an equal right to struggle on a state pension for the same length of time as a woman. "

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

It will make no difference as eventually the state pension won’t exist. Everyone needs to find their own retirement provision from a young age.

see... as someone who's job it is dealing with state pension forecasting and future pension forecasting i find this statement (and i hear it alot) frustrating .... because there are lots of things going on in the background....

most people in the future will have at least two pension pots... one being the state pension, the other being a workplace pension (relevant at this time because as of today these personal workplace pension contributions are going up, and employers contributions are also going up).. and if you still have a private pension on top of that... then brilliant!

i'd absolutely encourage everyone to get a state pension forecast, they are free and at least you can nip any potential issues in the bud early....... (enough bigging up my dept!!!)

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

"The retirement age should be reduced to 60 for all, then we should have 5 years of enjoyment before being either cut up for body parts or cat food.

It’s the only way we’ll fix the pensions, healthcare and housing crisis

Get lost Adam.

As lost as your sense of humour?

I thought it would be obvious that it wasn’t a sensible suggestion

I took it as a joke. Check your own sense of humour.

I said get lost cos it leaves me one year on the planet....

Over to you Mr. Sensitive."

Excellent, glad I didn’t piss you off. Just to make it fair, you can come and haunt me next year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No if anything they should have to work longer, lazy buggers, that way, they might even out the actual amount of work they do to women, by the time they finish!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

^^^

I was joking btw, before you all get yourselves an aneurysm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How was your day ladies, I’ve just finished work ?

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford

"How was your day ladies, I’ve just finished work ?"

Half day, was it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How was your day ladies, I’ve just finished work ?"

Great, spent a fair bit of it rushing my dog to the vets cos her stitches burst because of the underlying infection. It was such. Fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How was your day ladies, I’ve just finished work ?"

I only had to do 4 hours, finished at 12 thanks. Nothing again until Sunday ?? Next two days are working days but not needed now.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"How was your day ladies, I’ve just finished work ?

I only had to do 4 hours, finished at 12 thanks. Nothing again until Sunday ?? Next two days are working days but not needed now. "

You must be a politician.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How was your day ladies, I’ve just finished work ?

I only had to do 4 hours, finished at 12 thanks. Nothing again until Sunday ?? Next two days are working days but not needed now.

You must be a politician. "

Nah, a flight attendant on a standby month. Mostly waiting around for a call. It’s boring. I would rather actually fly.

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By *mudge616Man
over a year ago

DONCASTER

I retire in 8 months

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ll be taking my pension from 55. The state pension probably won’t even exist by the time I get there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Men's life insurance is higher than women's because we are more likely to die sooner..... so therefore we are more likely to claim less pension anyway! It really is madness

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

I think the shorter lifespan for men could even out so it’s the same as women or even longer, men don’t do hard manual work like they did in previous years and many women do the same jobs as men now

Plus many women are single parents so will have the additional stresses that brings, many years ago a woman worked till they got married then no work life or very short hours, times have changed so much since then.

In future years lifespans could be less due to our unhealthy modern lifestyles too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, lower it to 49. Immediately.

That way, I can put my trotters up before the months out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No since 'average' doesn't take into account any context and would be a bad statistic as far as equality is concerned, it's what spawned myths like the wage gap.

Cutting your balls off increases lifespan by an average of 7 years, doesn't mean it's a good idea

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

"No since 'average' doesn't take into account any context and would be a bad statistic as far as equality is concerned, it's what spawned myths like the wage gap.

Cutting your balls off increases lifespan by an average of 7 years, doesn't mean it's a good idea

Imagine no sex v getting old

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No since 'average' doesn't take into account any context and would be a bad statistic as far as equality is concerned, it's what spawned myths like the wage gap.

Cutting your balls off increases lifespan by an average of 7 years, doesn't mean it's a good idea

Imagine no sex v getting old

Well you'd still be able to have sex, you'd just have no swimmers.

You'd also not go bald, massively reduce your risk of cancer, and reduce your risk of erectile disfunction.

Aside from the whole not having your balls thing, it's actually a reasonably healthy lifestyle choice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes if your job is physically challenging and wears out your knees and back.

No if you push paper.

Does the fact I sit at a desk all day mean I don't work as hard as someone doing a physically demanding job?

I would argue not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes if your job is physically challenging and wears out your knees and back.

No if you push paper.

Does the fact I sit at a desk all day mean I don't work as hard as someone doing a physically demanding job?

I would argue not."

I agree. They are both different but equally exhausting and wearing in different ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You should be able to retire if you have done 30 years in full time employment

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" I think the shorter lifespan for men could even out so it’s the same as women or even longer, men don’t do hard manual work like they did in previous years and many women do the same jobs as men now

In future years lifespans could be less due to our unhealthy modern lifestyles too. "

Its more down to our biology than our jobs.

Testosterone puts a heavy load on the body.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

In future years lifespans could be less due to our unhealthy modern lifestyles too. "

The work gap is made up by men being 95% of workplace deaths iirc.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

In future years lifespans could be less due to our unhealthy modern lifestyles too. "

The work gap is made up by men being 95% of workplace deaths iirc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's very possible by the time I retire the Universal Basic Income will be around because machines have taken over all the jobs.

Bloody machine's, comin over ere, taking our jobs, doing our women.

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By *corpio67Man
over a year ago

hillingdon

Simples!

More people living longer

Eventually the pension will cease to be viable!

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By *egs11ABCWoman
over a year ago

Aberdeen

"How was your day ladies, I’ve just finished work ?

Great, spent a fair bit of it rushing my dog to the vets cos her stitches burst because of the underlying infection. It was such. Fun."

Aww poor pup. Hope she's ok. Mine had an ulcer in his eye last week. Felt sorry for himself typical male

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In future years lifespans could be less due to our unhealthy modern lifestyles too. "
Yes and people who are full time carers for children, partners and other family members too that suffer health problems both mentally and physically due to lack of respite.

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By *d59michelleTV/TS
over a year ago

walsall

As Steve Miller once sang woo hoo take the money and run so I did

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

In future years lifespans could be less due to our unhealthy modern lifestyles too.

Its more down to our biology than our jobs.

Testosterone puts a heavy load on the body.

Nah

More factors, Cardiovascular risks, psychological differences (men more likely to ignore symptoms), laborious jobs

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

In future years lifespans could be less due to our unhealthy modern lifestyles too. Yes and people who are full time carers for children, partners and other family members too that suffer health problems both mentally and physically due to lack of respite. "

Absolutly the hardest job of all!

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

"No since 'average' doesn't take into account any context and would be a bad statistic as far as equality is concerned, it's what spawned myths like the wage gap.

Cutting your balls off increases lifespan by an average of 7 years, doesn't mean it's a good idea

Imagine no sex v getting old

Well you'd still be able to have sex, you'd just have no swimmers.

You'd also not go bald, massively reduce your risk of cancer, and reduce your risk of erectile disfunction.

Aside from the whole not having your balls thing, it's actually a reasonably healthy lifestyle choice

I’d still not recommend it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

In future years lifespans could be less due to our unhealthy modern lifestyles too.

Its more down to our biology than our jobs.

Testosterone puts a heavy load on the body.

Nah

More factors, Cardiovascular risks, psychological differences (men more likely to ignore symptoms), laborious jobs

What do you think causes those cardiovascular risks?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A good question and in the term of equal equalities, it needs to be asked

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

In future years lifespans could be less due to our unhealthy modern lifestyles too.

Its more down to our biology than our jobs.

Testosterone puts a heavy load on the body.

Nah

More factors, Cardiovascular risks, psychological differences (men more likely to ignore symptoms), laborious jobs

What do you think causes those cardiovascular risks?"

There’s numerous genetic factors that predispose people to atherosclerosis. Testosterone is actually cardio protective if you look at the research

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By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

"So, on average in the uk make life expectancy is 3 years less than womens.

Should the retirement age be modified so that men retire and get thier state pension 3 years ealier than women to account for this gender disparity?"

What's the cause of the disparity?

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