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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? " Depends on whether you consider there to be intent to lack consideration for others in the orgasm, at the point it’s happening is it not an involuntary phenomenon? | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. " That could be tested.  | |||
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"How can it be unselfish? " It’s unselfish if you leave a tip  | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested. "Is that an official offer?  | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? Depends on whether you consider there to be intent to lack consideration for others in the orgasm, at the point it’s happening is it not an involuntary phenomenon?" At the point of orgasm I don't give a flying fig except that my partner at that time keeps doing exactly what they are doing. Nearly everything up to that point is a joint venture. | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested.
Is that an official offer? "I’d suggest Meli tests it out but I already know she would be having a good time, and thus not able to conduct the experiment correctly...so gosh, if I have to...  | |||
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"How strange. I'm so sorry that I experienced pleasure, perhaps even at your hands. Despite the rupture in our relationship I will atone at once! "That wasn't his intent. It's his go to fantasy now that aren't seeing each other. | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? Depends on whether you consider there to be intent to lack consideration for others in the orgasm, at the point it’s happening is it not an involuntary phenomenon? At the point of orgasm I don't give a flying fig except that my partner at that time keeps doing exactly what they are doing. Nearly everything up to that point is a joint venture. " I get that, my point is whether you perceive intention as necessary for something to be selfish... | |||
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"Personally I want to make my partner orgasm more than I want to." That's great, but when you do orgasm is that for you? | |||
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"How strange. I'm so sorry that I experienced pleasure, perhaps even at your hands. Despite the rupture in our relationship I will atone at once!
That wasn't his intent. It's his go to fantasy now that aren't seeing each other.
"Fair enough! I guess I was imposing some of my more ridiculous exes onto yours. They totally would begrudge my pleasure. | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested.
Is that an official offer?
I’d suggest Meli tests it out but I already know she would be having a good time, and thus not able to conduct the experiment correctly...so gosh, if I have to... "All in the name of good science  | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? Depends on whether you consider there to be intent to lack consideration for others in the orgasm, at the point it’s happening is it not an involuntary phenomenon? At the point of orgasm I don't give a flying fig except that my partner at that time keeps doing exactly what they are doing. Nearly everything up to that point is a joint venture. I get that, my point is whether you perceive intention as necessary for something to be selfish..." I've always described myself as a selfish lover. My intent is probably selfish. | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested.
Is that an official offer?
I’d suggest Meli tests it out but I already know she would be having a good time, and thus not able to conduct the experiment correctly...so gosh, if I have to...
All in the name of good science "I won’t enjoy it for a second, as is the point. | |||
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"How strange. I'm so sorry that I experienced pleasure, perhaps even at your hands. Despite the rupture in our relationship I will atone at once!
That wasn't his intent. It's his go to fantasy now that aren't seeing each other.
Fair enough! I guess I was imposing some of my more ridiculous exes onto yours. They totally would begrudge my pleasure. "I'm sorry that has been your experience. I hope you find some generous lovers who relish your enjoyment of your sexual pleasure. | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested.
Is that an official offer?
I’d suggest Meli tests it out but I already know she would be having a good time, and thus not able to conduct the experiment correctly...so gosh, if I have to...
All in the name of good science
I won’t enjoy it for a second, as is the point. "I'm not that minging!  | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested.
Is that an official offer?
I’d suggest Meli tests it out but I already know she would be having a good time, and thus not able to conduct the experiment correctly...so gosh, if I have to...
All in the name of good science
I won’t enjoy it for a second, as is the point.
I'm not that minging! "I’m happy to be part of the control group if that helps | |||
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"How strange. I'm so sorry that I experienced pleasure, perhaps even at your hands. Despite the rupture in our relationship I will atone at once!
That wasn't his intent. It's his go to fantasy now that aren't seeing each other.
Fair enough! I guess I was imposing some of my more ridiculous exes onto yours. They totally would begrudge my pleasure.
I'm sorry that has been your experience. I hope you find some generous lovers who relish your enjoyment of your sexual pleasure.
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested.
Is that an official offer?
I’d suggest Meli tests it out but I already know she would be having a good time, and thus not able to conduct the experiment correctly...so gosh, if I have to...
All in the name of good science
I won’t enjoy it for a second, as is the point.
I'm not that minging! "I never said you were. I’m following the rules of science.  | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested.
Is that an official offer?
I’d suggest Meli tests it out but I already know she would be having a good time, and thus not able to conduct the experiment correctly...so gosh, if I have to...
All in the name of good science "You'd need me to observe to ensure that responses are reported objectively. | |||
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"I only recall one truly selfish orgasm." What made it truly selfish and how were the others unselfish? | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? " The orgasm itself isnt selfish your actions before and after define that...... What an utterly passionate and sensual way to describe orgasms well done me | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested.
Is that an official offer?
I’d suggest Meli tests it out but I already know she would be having a good time, and thus not able to conduct the experiment correctly...so gosh, if I have to...
All in the name of good science
You'd need me to observe to ensure that responses are reported objectively.
"Of course, there would be no other way to do it. | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested.
Is that an official offer?
I’d suggest Meli tests it out but I already know she would be having a good time, and thus not able to conduct the experiment correctly...so gosh, if I have to...
All in the name of good science
I won’t enjoy it for a second, as is the point.
I'm not that minging!
I never said you were. I’m following the rules of science. "I'll follow the rules of science and not enjoy it for one second. In the slightest. | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested.
Is that an official offer?
I’d suggest Meli tests it out but I already know she would be having a good time, and thus not able to conduct the experiment correctly...so gosh, if I have to...
All in the name of good science
I won’t enjoy it for a second, as is the point.
I'm not that minging!
I never said you were. I’m following the rules of science.
I'll follow the rules of science and not enjoy it for one second. In the slightest. " | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? The orgasm itself isnt selfish your actions before and after define that...... What an utterly passionate and sensual way to describe orgasms well done me " I'd bought him dinner. | |||
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"I suppose so, but I can't orgasm unless the other person is having a thoroughly good time too. That could be tested.
Is that an official offer?
I’d suggest Meli tests it out but I already know she would be having a good time, and thus not able to conduct the experiment correctly...so gosh, if I have to...
All in the name of good science
You'd need me to observe to ensure that responses are reported objectively.
Of course, there would be no other way to do it. "It sounds very much like no one will be enjoying sex with Hepatica in any way shape or form in the future! | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? The orgasm itself isnt selfish your actions before and after define that...... What an utterly passionate and sensual way to describe orgasms well done me I'd bought him dinner. " I think your good so | |||
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"Personally I want to make my partner orgasm more than I want to. That's great, but when you do orgasm is that for you? " I don't think I ever have honestly. | |||
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"I only recall one truly selfish orgasm. What made it truly selfish and how were the others unselfish? " Suppose it was more my attitude at the time that made it selfish rather than the act itself,nothing was going to stop me from doing it,in the way I was doing it. I didn't give a stuff what he was thinking I felt like I was using him as a prop so to speak on his body. There was no emotional connection to him which added to the selfishness. | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? " It's a very interesting way of phrasing it. I'm not sure that orgasm are necessarily selfish by definition but they certainly can be. If the other person is party to that though, are they still selfish? | |||
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"I only recall one truly selfish orgasm. What made it truly selfish and how were the others unselfish? Suppose it was more my attitude at the time that made it selfish rather than the act itself,nothing was going to stop me from doing it,in the way I was doing it. I didn't give a stuff what he was thinking I felt like I was using him as a prop so to speak on his body. There was no emotional connection to him which added to the selfishness." I've done that too. A time and place for (almost) everything. | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? It's a very interesting way of phrasing it. I'm not sure that orgasm are necessarily selfish by definition but they certainly can be. If the other person is party to that though, are they still selfish? " There was generosity on both sides at various points but my orgasm caused him physical pain. | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? It's a very interesting way of phrasing it. I'm not sure that orgasm are necessarily selfish by definition but they certainly can be. If the other person is party to that though, are they still selfish? There was generosity on both sides at various points but my orgasm caused him physical pain. " Did you know that at the time though? | |||
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"Part of having an orgadm is to show the person I'm having sex with that I'm having an amazing time. If I don't cum I worry that they will worry that they were not good. As a result I get stage fright and it can take me ages, even if they are absolutely amazing and really into it. So although orgasms are selfish they're not just about my pleasure, there's a selfless part of having an orgasm too. " The generosity of the orgasm is the compliment given to the other person. I always say thank you after. | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? It's a very interesting way of phrasing it. I'm not sure that orgasm are necessarily selfish by definition but they certainly can be. If the other person is party to that though, are they still selfish? There was generosity on both sides at various points but my orgasm caused him physical pain. Did you know that at the time though?" No. I was completely lost in that moment. It wasn't until the next morning that I knew about his pain. | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? It's a very interesting way of phrasing it. I'm not sure that orgasm are necessarily selfish by definition but they certainly can be. If the other person is party to that though, are they still selfish? There was generosity on both sides at various points but my orgasm caused him physical pain. Did you know that at the time though? No. I was completely lost in that moment. It wasn't until the next morning that I knew about his pain. " Well then he maybe can't say it was selfish,if you had known then fair enough. | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? " Not when I am giving them they ain't. | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? It's a very interesting way of phrasing it. I'm not sure that orgasm are necessarily selfish by definition but they certainly can be. If the other person is party to that though, are they still selfish? There was generosity on both sides at various points but my orgasm caused him physical pain. Did you know that at the time though? No. I was completely lost in that moment. It wasn't until the next morning that I knew about his pain. " If you weren't to know how was it selfish? It's reasonable to believe that the person you are having sex with is enjoying your orgasm too. | |||
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"I had a message from an ex-lover recounting my most selfish orgasm. Aren't all orgasms selfish? It's a very interesting way of phrasing it. I'm not sure that orgasm are necessarily selfish by definition but they certainly can be. If the other person is party to that though, are they still selfish? There was generosity on both sides at various points but my orgasm caused him physical pain. Did you know that at the time though? No. I was completely lost in that moment. It wasn't until the next morning that I knew about his pain. If you weren't to know how was it selfish? It's reasonable to believe that the person you are having sex with is enjoying your orgasm too. " He did but I don't believe his enjoyment was in my head when I was experiencing it. | |||
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"I wonder how this thread would have read if I was male? I can think of enough men for whom their orgasm was all that mattered to them. The whole endeavour felt selfish and not something I have fantasised about. My selfishness has been described as a turn on (not just by the ex-lover of this thread). " That thought went through my head when I said about orgasms having the potential to be selfish. | |||
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