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Speed limiters on New cars,A good idea?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

my first thought is it would put up value of older non-restricted cars as some want to drive at 71 mph.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God no how can you overtake on motorway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It will only work if they retro-fit older cars, or new car sales will stall.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

No way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It looks like it'll be law by 2022 on all new car sales.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Its more European law...we could always vote to leave Europe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not opposed to cars being restricted when they pass by schools .I imagine it'll be linked to the sat nav.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wonder if motor bikes included

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its more European law...we could always vote to leave Europe "
bet it dont affect germany tho

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

Sounds good to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not opposed to cars being restricted when they pass by schools .I imagine it'll be linked to the sat nav. "

Id be more happy to see parents getting driving bans and pick up bans for parking infront of schools.

Also Jesus could you imagine the carnage if somone has thier clock set wrong is doing 30 at 8pm and thier car suddenly slams on to take them down to 20 with cars behind.

Daylight savings time would be like the freaking purge

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its more European law...we could always vote to leave Europe bet it dont affect germany tho"

An EU law that doesn’t apply to Germany? Surely not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its more European law...we could always vote to leave Europe bet it dont affect germany tho

An EU law that doesn’t apply to Germany? Surely not "

May has said the UK will align with the EU ruling even if we leave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its more European law...we could always vote to leave Europe bet it dont affect germany tho

An EU law that doesn’t apply to Germany? Surely not

May has said the UK will align with the EU ruling even if we leave."
that woman has no spine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its more European law...we could always vote to leave Europe "

We’ll be aligning with EU Law when it comes to some possibly most safety aspects so makes no difference when we Brexit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"wonder if motor bikes included"

One rule for all road users even though some seem to think they’re exempt on current ones.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

Apparently you can switch it off the same way as you can with the auto cut off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apparently you can switch it off the same way as you can with the auto cut off. "

That's interesting. I wonder if your insurance is cheaper if its on and more expensive off.

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By *illiam101000Man
over a year ago

Melton Mowbray

Be good if it only worked in built up or inner city areas.

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By *inkysexpotMan
over a year ago

leeds

Could cause more accidents, sometimes you need that bit of extra speed to get out of a dangerous situation

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By *iss.ddWoman
over a year ago

Leeds + Newcastle

The cruise control in my car already has a speed limiter.

I guess it's handy as going down hill doesn't actually keep the car at the pre-set speed, it can creep up.

Never used it though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could cause more accidents, sometimes you need that bit of extra speed to get out of a dangerous situation"
you can override it for just such situations.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

No what an awful idea. What about track days....

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Find it humorous that the automatic reaction is either "how dare they stop me driving over the speed limit" followed by "the speed limit needs to be raised". But then the loop starts again as people ignore the law. I find it's 30mph zones are a racetrack these days.

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh."

I’m in two minds about that, most people drive at 80 already, will they drive at 90 If limit was 80?

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By *xtrafun4youMan
over a year ago

Dunstable


"Its more European law...we could always vote to leave Europe "
Fuck Europe. I would soon work out how to get it off.

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By *arrapsMan
over a year ago

port talbot

It’s not speed limiters they need

It’s the standard of driving in countries like ,Spain,Italy France et al that they want to improve.

Fricking lunatics overtaking on blind bends...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

will make having a powerful car somewhat pointless, and I wonder how higher end manufacturers will react... also.. is this restricting free will ?

As many have said, sometimes you need additional speed to avoid dangerous situations, so this could cause problems as well as solving problems.

#nanny state.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As ever, blame the tool not the user...

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By *ourneforfunMan
over a year ago

Coventry

I would assume older cars would need a limitter fitted in order to pass MOT.

Nothing stopping you disabling it after MOT though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it saves some kids life outside a school or in a 30 it's cool with me.

Its intereating that the speed limit is a law that some consider their right to break.

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By *elvet RopeMan
over a year ago

by the big field


"Its more European law...we could always vote to leave Europe bet it dont affect germany tho

An EU law that doesn’t apply to Germany? Surely not

May has said the UK will align with the EU ruling even if we leave.that woman has no spine"

She's a Tory- its their Raison d'etre to suck every last bit of joy out of life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fantastic idea, if it saves just one life, it's done it's job.

I've got one on my car and make use of it whenever I'm out. Nice and clean driving licence, yes please.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"wonder if motor bikes included

One rule for all road users even though some seem to think they’re exempt on current ones."

So all cars will be banned from the 3rd lane of the motorway.

Be restricted 50ish mph

Have to go back and resit thier test 3 times before they csn buy a full powered car

Take extra off the road skills tests.

And drive down between lanes?

Jesus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it goes over 200mph yes Mayb all road cars should be limited at 100mph just different ones get there quicker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maybe no need for overtaking lane

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It looks like it'll be law by 2022 on all new car sales. "

Only in the EU

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Fantastic idea, if it saves just one life, it's done it's job.

I've got one on my car and make use of it whenever I'm out. Nice and clean driving licence, yes please. "
excessive speed isn't the big issue and I see it causing more accidents than solving.

I am all for speed limits being raised on the motorways..and think they need to focus more on bad driving.

12 times in a 35min journey I had to choose to either come across 4 lanes of traffic to pass someone sitting at 60ish on the 3rd lane of the m1 the other day. So 3 lanes across to go 3 lanes back.. that is a bigger issue than speeding for me.

Not driving to the road conditions is another big one... and that does include speed.. not keeping a safe distance.. erratic lane use... all cause just as many accidents but you only tend to hear about the accidents that have high speed as they get to act all better than everyone.

If someone said they never speed I wouldn't believe them to be fair.

Btw I have a totally clean free licence and never had an accident where I was at fault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Volvo have already stated that all new cars will be restricted to 115mph from 2020.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh."
Why... Raise it to 80 so you can drive at 90 and think its OK. Speed kills or didn't you know that

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

It is about driving habits

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It is about driving habits "

what if your not a Nun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a random thought...knowing car manufacturers they will all have their own version of limiters to work on their own cars. What happens if they dont all react exactly the same way at exactly the same time? Which even in the unlikely event that they did all the cars would have to then accelerate or decelerate at exactly the same rates and this would have to happen with every vehicle on the road old (retro fitted with limiter) or new, every car, van, truck or articulated lorry all with different rates of momentum which is calculated by mass(in kg) and velocity(in metres per second). So for example a fiat 500 weighing approx 900kg and an arctic weighing 44,000kg have to slow down at the same rate a This is both practically and scientifically impossible. How would they get every vehicle all fitted with limiters...take everyone's car off the road til fitted with one?

Who pays?

What about those who dont?

But, if they dont all stop at the same rates what happens when your vehicle is automatically limited leaving a 50mph to a 30mph zone and the vehicle behind either isnt limited or has a different rate of deceleration?

I think that is patently obvious, its called a crash...Who then is responsible? The car manufacturer, the gps system manufacturer who tell the car what speed limit, the driver(who's ability to drive the car has been taken away?)

Is it a good idea? Yes in theory probably.

In practicality no because its actually more likely to cause accidents than stop them, and then leave a huge legal mess about who's responsible...with the driver as always paying all the increased costs in limiters, gps, insurance etc etc

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh.Why... Raise it to 80 so you can drive at 90 and think its OK. Speed kills or didn't you know that"
speed doesn't.. inappropriate speed for the road and conditions does.

But I think that raising or removing speed limits would be fine. Not on all roads obviously and there are some that are 30 that I think should be 20. But on motorways then I think 70 is quite old hat now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My first car was a mk1 fiesta 1.3. I used to drive that at motorway speed limit, it had crap skinny tyres, no abs or power steering, or any safety devices. That was totally legal. So surely my modern car, with good tyres, loads of safety features is just as safe at 90? Just need to be aware of the two second rule

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

My first reaction

Safer???

Mmmm nope

You need speed to overtake safely

If you can’t it will lead to unsafe overtaking and higher risks to oncoming traffic...

Can you see Porsche, Mercedes, Lamborghini Alfa Romeo, Audi

Having high performance cars limited to 70mph

What would be the point???

No it’s not a good idea

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By *illy123xxxABCMan
over a year ago

vagus

Wont bother me one bit.try never to speed .too many 100+mph cars driven by 20 mph brains .my car has a restrictor 140 mph or thats what the sales guy told me .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My first car was a mk1 fiesta 1.3. I used to drive that at motorway speed limit, it had crap skinny tyres, no abs or power steering, or any safety devices. That was totally legal. So surely my modern car, with good tyres, loads of safety features is just as safe at 90? Just need to be aware of the two second rule"

two second rule? Whats an Englishmans sex life got to do with it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a random thought...knowing car manufacturers they will all have their own version of limiters to work on their own cars. What happens if they dont all react exactly the same way at exactly the same time? Which even in the unlikely event that they did all the cars would have to then accelerate or decelerate at exactly the same rates and this would have to happen with every vehicle on the road old (retro fitted with limiter) or new, every car, van, truck or articulated lorry all with different rates of momentum which is calculated by mass(in kg) and velocity(in metres per second). So for example a fiat 500 weighing approx 900kg and an arctic weighing 44,000kg have to slow down at the same rate a This is both practically and scientifically impossible. How would they get every vehicle all fitted with limiters...take everyone's car off the road til fitted with one?

Who pays?

What about those who dont?

But, if they dont all stop at the same rates what happens when your vehicle is automatically limited leaving a 50mph to a 30mph zone and the vehicle behind either isnt limited or has a different rate of deceleration?

I think that is patently obvious, its called a crash...Who then is responsible? The car manufacturer, the gps system manufacturer who tell the car what speed limit, the driver(who's ability to drive the car has been taken away?)

Is it a good idea? Yes in theory probably.

In practicality no because its actually more likely to cause accidents than stop them, and then leave a huge legal mess about who's responsible...with the driver as always paying all the increased costs in limiters, gps, insurance etc etc

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You aren't supposed to hit the brakes and slow down for a speed limit change as you pass the sign. And if you've left a safe gap, there won't be a problem

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh.Why... Raise it to 80 so you can drive at 90 and think its OK. Speed kills or didn't you know that"

Because cars and thier physical limitations have moved on from when they were set 54 years ago....

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh.Why... Raise it to 80 so you can drive at 90 and think its OK. Speed kills or didn't you know that

Because cars and thier physical limitations have moved on from when they were set 54 years ago....

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even in the last 15 years.. you drive a car from 15 years ago till now... I've been out test driving older cars recently... and the difference in brakes is so noticeable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's a good idea. Traffic jams are often caused by vehicles exceeding speed limits and getting to the next junction too quickly. Isn't that why the M25 (poss others?) have variable speed limits? The only ones who seem to be objecting to this are those who think it's their right to break the law

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh.Why... Raise it to 80 so you can drive at 90 and think its OK. Speed kills or didn't you know that

Because cars and thier physical limitations have moved on from when they were set 54 years ago....

even in the last 15 years.. you drive a car from 15 years ago till now... I've been out test driving older cars recently... and the difference in brakes is so noticeable "

Yep my first bike was from 2001 with no rider aids and my current one is the latest and greatest with all the bells and whistles.

The tech that allows the brakes to work mid corner in an emergancy is amazing and already saved me from one retarded driver

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just a random thought...knowing car manufacturers they will all have their own version of limiters to work on their own cars. What happens if they dont all react exactly the same way at exactly the same time? Which even in the unlikely event that they did all the cars would have to then accelerate or decelerate at exactly the same rates and this would have to happen with every vehicle on the road old (retro fitted with limiter) or new, every car, van, truck or articulated lorry all with different rates of momentum which is calculated by mass(in kg) and velocity(in metres per second). So for example a fiat 500 weighing approx 900kg and an arctic weighing 44,000kg have to slow down at the same rate a This is both practically and scientifically impossible. How would they get every vehicle all fitted with limiters...take everyone's car off the road til fitted with one?

Who pays?

What about those who dont?

But, if they dont all stop at the same rates what happens when your vehicle is automatically limited leaving a 50mph to a 30mph zone and the vehicle behind either isnt limited or has a different rate of deceleration?

I think that is patently obvious, its called a crash...Who then is responsible? The car manufacturer, the gps system manufacturer who tell the car what speed limit, the driver(who's ability to drive the car has been taken away?)

Is it a good idea? Yes in theory probably.

In practicality no because its actually more likely to cause accidents than stop them, and then leave a huge legal mess about who's responsible...with the driver as always paying all the increased costs in limiters, gps, insurance etc etc

You aren't supposed to hit the brakes and slow down for a speed limit change as you pass the sign. And if you've left a safe gap, there won't be a problem "

I agree but

a) most people dont

b) unfortunately people get lazy and used to using their car technology instead of using their brains and as I said what happens when it doesnt work?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

AA said a little speed can be helpful. Seems it can be over ridden by pressing down on accelerator ..so perhaps a pointless law unless only a marginal speed increase

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes let's have smart roads and smart cars ,so everything is controlled by the speed limiters for the road in question it will alleviate the need to make cars that can do speeds in excess of 70 mph, we won't need an accelerator that can be controlled by roadside speed limiters to ,so just a break pedal and drive lever pedal ,no need for style either as the absolute enjoyment of driving would have been completely abolished anyway ,the other benefit you'll never have to have traffic police waste their time pulling you over to fine you for speeding and speed and average speed cameras will not be needed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So i wonder how long it will take for these systems to be backed like the jeep system was.

Imagine the effect of a bloke sat on a bridge and changing the 70mph motorway to a 20mph school zone...

(If its gps based it doesnt even need hacking just jamming)

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I thought driverless cars were the coming thing..wonder if they'll actually cause more accidents !

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By *un4meanduMan
over a year ago

STOTFOLD

With driverless tech being developed and automatic breaking then the safety of driving at speed will increase but as has been posted the cars have moved on since speed limit of 70 was introduced what hasn't changed is the fact a lot of people think that their reactions and ability is way above what in reality it is and therefore that's what causes a lot of accidents at speed

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

It's going to be the end of car manufacturing in the EU as we know it.

If the speed limit is restricted to 70mph (UK) not sure what it is in other countries, what would be the point of making cars that go a lot faster?

1000cc engines will be the norm for the time being and then eventually phased out altogether for electric.

I'm guessing this is one EU directive that even some of the remains don't like!!

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

I've just been looking for a new car and actually refused 2 of the cars just because it has so many drivers aids I can't see where the fun would be.

I mean it had the ability to park for me.. has pedestrian safety measures.. auto breaking... auto wipers.. auto lights.. I mean come on. How much does a car need to do for you.

So I've gone for one that is nice to look at and has none of the above and a sports mode for fun

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh."

Such a bad idea.

M

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"my first thought is it would put up value of older non-restricted cars as some want to drive at 71 mph."

Depends on what speed they set the limits to.

If they set them to bang on 70, bad idea.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh.

Such a bad idea.

M"

Why?

Cars are far safer than the where in the 60s

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our motorways are a lower limit than abroad so it's fine if they up us to 80mph. Was lovely driving in France last year

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh.

Such a bad idea.

M

Why?

Cars are far safer than the where in the 60s"

It's nothing to do with the safety of the cars.

People reaction times haven't improved.

If anything they've got worse as people have come to rely on the technology as opposed to their own awareness.

M

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Our motorways are a lower limit than abroad so it's fine if they up us to 80mph. Was lovely driving in France last year "

Highways england wants them incrwased to to 80mph.

But they are mainly worried abour public option and ingrained thinking.

For instance the national speedlimit on a dual carriage way has been 70 since before i was born yet there are huge numbers of people especially older) who stil insist its 60.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh.

Such a bad idea.

M

Why?

Cars are far safer than the where in the 60s

It's nothing to do with the safety of the cars.

People reaction times haven't improved.

If anything they've got worse as people have come to rely on the technology as opposed to their own awareness.

M

"

But braking distance and handling has massivly improved so reaction times dont need to be better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should we just make old people resit thier exams and test thier reaction times?

So often you see people over 60 completley unable to drive at the speed limit on even 30mph roads

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By *onny MCMan
over a year ago

Crawley

I've never particularly enjoyed driving and if someone said I could trade my car in tomorrow for one that could get me home from the pub by itself while I slept it off in the back, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I'm totally convinced they'll be safer. Once they're all computer controlled, they can all communicate with each other wirelessly, rather than accidents being caused by other drivers suddenly doing something unexpected. In a queue of traffic, if the front car breaks suddenly, the system will communicate the need to break and all cars will break simultaneously, without human reaction times for each individual car.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The most dangerous component of any vehicle is the human sat in it.

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By *utmegsMan
over a year ago

Closer than you think


"But braking distance and handling has massivly improved so reaction times dont need to be better."

All the ABS and improved handling in the world won’t save you at 70 three feet from the car in front. Teaching drivers that they’re not invincible road warriors might help. A bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've never particularly enjoyed driving and if someone said I could trade my car in tomorrow for one that could get me home from the pub by itself while I slept it off in the back, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I'm totally convinced they'll be safer. Once they're all computer controlled, they can all communicate with each other wirelessly, rather than accidents being caused by other drivers suddenly doing something unexpected. In a queue of traffic, if the front car breaks suddenly, the system will communicate the need to break and all cars will break simultaneously, without human reaction times for each individual car. "

Go and buy one of Elon Musks cars, they drive them selves don’t they?

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh.

Such a bad idea.

M

Why?

Cars are far safer than the where in the 60s

It's nothing to do with the safety of the cars.

People reaction times haven't improved.

If anything they've got worse as people have come to rely on the technology as opposed to their own awareness.

M

But braking distance and handling has massivly improved so reaction times dont need to be better.

"

Possibly one of the most naive statements I've read.

Improved braking distance counts for jack if the driver isn't paying attention.

It's 70 for a reason. No need to change it.

M

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

I'll be like madmax with my v engined petrol car refusing to be tamed lol

They need to up the speed limits and crack down on the Muppets rather than waste money on technology that is is It screaming to be hacked.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"But braking distance and handling has massivly improved so reaction times dont need to be better.

All the ABS and improved handling in the world won’t save you at 70 three feet from the car in front. Teaching drivers that they’re not invincible road warriors might help. A bit."

This. So much this......

Some people could really benefit from a driver awareness course or some advanced driver training.

M

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"wonder if motor bikes included

One rule for all road users even though some seem to think they’re exempt on current ones."

Been tested on bikes years ago, causes them to crash.

If the system is sensibly imposed and allows exceeding the posted speed limit for the purpose of overtaking, as allowed in the highway code. It's not a terrible idea, but what happens on motorways when the all clear sign is blocked by another vehicle as you pass it at the end of road works? Do you do 50mph for the remainder of the journey?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should we just make old people resit thier exams and test thier reaction times?

So often you see people over 60 completley unable to drive at the speed limit on even 30mph roads"

We definitely shouldn't let boy racers on motorbikes swigging from 30 year old bottles of malt who play chicken in between lorries on our roads.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

Beware! It won’t stop there. It will bring in active tolls - ie ROAD TAX, based on miles covered. They will also know where you are where you’ve been and when. Big brother indeed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Second thoughts... bring it on, my red and black printing business will prosper printing round circles with 150 in the middle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just ban cars we're running out of oil anyway and the fumes aren't good for ecology

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I'm surprised they haven't introduced this earlier. . . Or gone one step further by having each new car fitted with a gps system that records its speed, then when the car goes over a speed limit in any given area you get a fixed penalty fine through the post . . . Now that's a scarier thought than any limiter being fitted !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quick drop into the borehole and you're doing 124mph plus, so no limiter needed there. I agree that our motorways should be at least 80mph and if the limiters are set to 110mph that won't impact safe drivers anyway. As aforementioned cars have come along way since 1954 etc. Whilst all these changes are being made how about moving to driving on the right also...now that's a right move.

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By *entakuruMan
over a year ago

Exeter

It's stupid. 99.9% of crashes/fatalities occur within the existing (too low) limits or as a result of reckless behaviour.

It's more a likely money saving drive on behalf of the auto industry - if you make it slower you can spend less on safety - that has been spun by the PR panjandrums into a virtue-signal move.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm surprised they haven't introduced this earlier. . . Or gone one step further by having each new car fitted with a gps system that records its speed, then when the car goes over a speed limit in any given area you get a fixed penalty fine through the post . . . Now that's a scarier thought than any limiter being fitted !"
I think we should just get an automatic fine because we drive ,once a month

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seeing as 17-20 year olds make up a disproportionate amount of road deaths it will probably most beneficial to saving their lives.

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By *uck427Man
over a year ago

wales

It's all well and good saying a GPS black box if it was any good you wouldn't see a 44 ton lorry stuck down a lane or a motorist driving down the wrong way then on top gear a car with automatic braking smashing though a dummy OT was on watchdog a black box was in a house and it was saying the car was doing 120mph speed limiters do work sometimes it's good on a motorway when there road works and a av speed cameras and most cars are capped at 155 like mercs BMW and Audi's but a older car got less aids my first car had nothing no pas abs ebd cl ew now the car I got now got everything and the newest car got the stop start and limiters fitted that's broke down on a busy roundabout because of the stop start system rant over

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By *entakuruMan
over a year ago

Exeter


"Volvo have already stated that all new cars will be restricted to 115mph from 2020. "
180kph and its not including their 'Polestar' performance range. There's a lot of speculation that it's mostly due to limitations in electric driveline tech but it's being spun as a voluntary safety thing.

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By *onny MCMan
over a year ago

Crawley


"I've never particularly enjoyed driving and if someone said I could trade my car in tomorrow for one that could get me home from the pub by itself while I slept it off in the back, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I'm totally convinced they'll be safer. Once they're all computer controlled, they can all communicate with each other wirelessly, rather than accidents being caused by other drivers suddenly doing something unexpected. In a queue of traffic, if the front car breaks suddenly, the system will communicate the need to break and all cars will break simultaneously, without human reaction times for each individual car.

Go and buy one of Elon Musks cars, they drive them selves don’t they? "

The tech isn't near the level I'm talking about yet but it's only a matter of time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was that really your first thought?!

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

No douche is putting anything in MY CAR thanku very much ....I need some speed to over take "Mavis and Harrold" when their pottering at 25 mph taking in the scenery of the country side....

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By *entakuruMan
over a year ago

Exeter


"Speed kills or didn't you know that"

'Speed Kills' is just a catchphrase and in and of itself, it doesn't.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I guess it might be ok of it makes you travel at the limit. It would be annoying stuck behind some cunt doing 35 in a 40 mile after mile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could cause more accidents, sometimes you need that bit of extra speed to get out of a dangerous situation"

This was my first thought exactly.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"Speed kills or didn't you know that

'Speed Kills' is just a catchphrase and in and of itself, it doesn't. "

Speed does not kill.

Poor observation, poor forward planning, poor car control and inappropriate use of speed does.

M

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By *irenGuy70Man
over a year ago

Cirencester


"wonder if motor bikes included

One rule for all road users even though some seem to think they’re exempt on current ones.

Been tested on bikes years ago, causes them to crash.

If the system is sensibly imposed and allows exceeding the posted speed limit for the purpose of overtaking, as allowed in the highway code. It's not a terrible idea, but what happens on motorways when the all clear sign is blocked by another vehicle as you pass it at the end of road works? Do you do 50mph for the remainder of the journey?"

Are you saying the current highway code allows you to exceed the speed limit when overtaking? I don't think that's the case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"my first thought is it would put up value of older non-restricted cars as some want to drive at 71 mph."

Restrict them to 100mph

Let motorways be 100mph 10pm-7am

However I don't think so. I think government shouldn't interfere so much.

I also think people should keep their cars longer.

I definitely think motorways at empty time should have a higher speed limit than 70.

I also want the m62 motorway to go back to being 70mph instead of 50mph...the road workers aren't actually doing anything for the last 5 years and it's still got "roadworks"

....the world is better off with "less government"...trafic laws are pedantic...

Heavily regulating motorists (or gun owners/whatever)...just leads to rich people having "privalidges" and poor people being forced to take the bus (which is full of loosers)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could cause more accidents, sometimes you need that bit of extra speed to get out of a dangerous situation

This was my first thought exactly."

Safe and responsible drivers could drive at a few miles per hour below the speed limit so they've always got that little bit extra for "dangerous situations". After all, it's not mandatory to always drive at the maximum speed

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By *entakuruMan
over a year ago

Exeter


"Speed kills or didn't you know that

'Speed Kills' is just a catchphrase and in and of itself, it doesn't.

Speed does not kill.

Poor observation, poor forward planning, poor car control and inappropriate use of speed does.

M"

PREACH

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By *ig_Wam_BamCouple
over a year ago

Wigan

Why not?

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

It's a cynical policy to drivers us to purchasing all Electric self drive vehicles..

Politicians always deciding what is best for us sometimes we should be allowed to make our own mistakes.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

This is so frustrating driving is not just going from one place to another it's an experience it's travelling it's freedom in a world where we have very little control over our destiny and where we end up almost feels as if we should not try..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I guess it might be ok of it makes you travel at the limit. It would be annoying stuck behind some cunt doing 35 in a 40 mile after mile. "

Thats actually one of the major concerns with this.

Atm people adjust thier speed to the conditions which may often be below the limit. With this people will just keep thier foot down and do the forced limit everywhere regardless of whats around them.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"This is so frustrating driving is not just going from one place to another it's an experience it's travelling it's freedom in a world where we have very little control over our destiny and where we end up almost feels as if we should not try.."

Very profound....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ban cars use public transport it's eco friendly

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria


"This is so frustrating driving is not just going from one place to another it's an experience it's travelling it's freedom in a world where we have very little control over our destiny and where we end up almost feels as if we should not try..

Very profound.... "

Driving and cars is a passion I have held from a very young age .

Had some nice cars but on penalty points on my licence...

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Ban cars use public transport it's eco friendly "

Be quiet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Are you saying the current highway code allows you to exceed the speed limit when overtaking? I don't think that's the case."

Actually...

If a camera catches you you don't have option...it's just a fine or a silly class to attend.

If police see you stuck between 2 lorries speeding out of a dangerous near collision. ...or with some woman in Labour giving birth in the back of your car...

^^^^then I bet they would give you bennefit of doubt.

Sometimes your doing 50 in the slow lane then 2 big foreign lorries start trapping you in. Your forced to speed out sometimes because you don't trust the idiots surrounding you.

I can say without any doubt I am the safest driver and break speed limit less than anyone else ever because I enjoy being slow.

Being slow sometimes is dangerous. You must drive with the flow of the traffic.

Some people drive like maniacs

Some people are so slowand stuttery they will cause accidents...

I go with the flow of traffic and match it's speed.

But if your trapped on m62 or m6 doing the speed limit and get into enclosed danger without much space between big vehicles you need to press the gas abit....

My mum isn't an agressive driver. She got trapped by 2 agressive lorries and the car flipped. I won't trust other motorists around me if they seem unpredictable.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria


"Ban cars use public transport it's eco friendly "

We live in a place where there in no public transport..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I guess it might be ok of it makes you travel at the limit. It would be annoying stuck behind some cunt doing 35 in a 40 mile after mile.

Thats actually one of the major concerns with this.

Will they?

Atm people adjust thier speed to the conditions which may often be below the limit. With this people will just keep thier foot down and do the forced limit everywhere regardless of whats around them.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd I know I can't make up time by driving over the limit on my way to work, I'll be forced to leave on time, which will be a good thing

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"I guess it might be ok of it makes you travel at the limit. It would be annoying stuck behind some cunt doing 35 in a 40 mile after mile. "

Best not go out in a car on a Sunday then .

There are so many cunts out on a Sunday in the Cotswolds , taking in the glorious countryside at speeds way below the limit on single lane roads . Couple that with the amount of fucking Lycra clad cyclists ( ha ha ! ) and it’s a no go zone for anyone who just wants to go from a to b .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban cars use public transport it's eco friendly

We live in a place where there in no public transport.."
Kettering?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban cars use public transport it's eco friendly "

No. I'm not getting busses where I live it's full of peasents who drink fight and Rob...

The seats are dirty and full of chewing gum and the broad masses spit on the floor.

I fear for my safety on busses. Allow me to own a firearm I might consider getting a bus. I don't want to get stabed off a spice head.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the face of it we may welcome this innovation. No maniacs driving at 60 through a 20 zone etc.... however

(Tin foil hats at the ready)

Picture the scenario....police HQ

officer says 'joe bloggs just sent a mean tweet about trans rights, global warming, muslims, the moon landings and vaccines hurting someone's feelings!'

Commander says 'where is the son of a bitch?'

Officer...'between junction 17 and 18 of the Northbound carriageway of the M6 doing 69 mph'

Commander...'ok kill the motor on his ford tippex, lock his doors and send a squad car round to arrest him....this menace to society

needs locked up!'

Sell it as a good thing first....then usher in the bad gradually. Just a thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it saves some kids life outside a school or in a 30 it's cool with me.

Its intereating that the speed limit is a law that some consider their right to break. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On the face of it we may welcome this innovation. No maniacs driving at 60 through a 20 zone etc.... however

(Tin foil hats at the ready)

Picture the scenario....police HQ

officer says 'joe bloggs just sent a mean tweet about trans rights, global warming, muslims, the moon landings and vaccines hurting someone's feelings!'

Commander says 'where is the son of a bitch?'

Officer...'between junction 17 and 18 of the Northbound carriageway of the M6 doing 69 mph'

Commander...'ok kill the motor on his ford tippex, lock his doors and send a squad car round to arrest him....this menace to society

needs locked up!'

Sell it as a good thing first....then usher in the bad gradually. Just a thought "

Well the legislation is including a black box reading everywhere you go when and at what speed.

Should make stalking a lot easier so far car manufacturers have proven to be woefully inadequate when it comes to security.

Rember the jeep recall after people proved they could take over the new smart jeep via its internet connection 1.4 million cars scrapped.

They shut off the journalists engine on the highway.

However they also showed they could take control of his steering, turn off his brakes, and cause sudden acceleration.

What would have happened if instead of going public and turning off a journalists engine on the motorway they had had 1.4 million cars slam thier steering to full lock and hit the gas?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fantastic idea, if it saves just one life, it's done it's job.

I've got one on my car and make use of it whenever I'm out. Nice and clean driving licence, yes please. excessive speed isn't the big issue and I see it causing more accidents than solving.

I am all for speed limits being raised on the motorways..and think they need to focus more on bad driving.

12 times in a 35min journey I had to choose to either come across 4 lanes of traffic to pass someone sitting at 60ish on the 3rd lane of the m1 the other day. So 3 lanes across to go 3 lanes back.. that is a bigger issue than speeding for me.

Not driving to the road conditions is another big one... and that does include speed.. not keeping a safe distance.. erratic lane use... all cause just as many accidents but you only tend to hear about the accidents that have high speed as they get to act all better than everyone.

If someone said they never speed I wouldn't believe them to be fair.

Btw I have a totally clean free licence and never had an accident where I was at fault. "

I dont ever speed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it saves some kids life outside a school or in a 30 it's cool with me.

Its intereating that the speed limit is a law that some consider their right to break.

"

I cant help but think people who claim never to break the speed limit are the people we see daily stopped on the m60 sliproads as they couldn't merge

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria


"If it saves some kids life outside a school or in a 30 it's cool with me.

Its intereating that the speed limit is a law that some consider their right to break.

"

The vast number of people driving have never run a child over and just because your car is limited does not and will not stop somebody from running somebody over child .

My counter-argument is if everybody is limited to the same speed some people will take other risks to try and save time I i.e. run a red light go the wrong way up a one way street tamper with the vehicles safety systems to allow it to go faster creating more danger than is currently there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban cars use public transport it's eco friendly

Be quiet "

This

Shame we cant put limiters on the 'eco warriors who want us to go back to the stone age!

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By *icked_tongueMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"God no how can you overtake on motorway"

Well if the other driver is already doing 70 mph then strictly speaking you're breaking the law by overtaking them aren't you!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban cars use public transport it's eco friendly

Be quiet

This

Shame we cant put limiters on the 'eco warriors who want us to go back to the stone age!"
Fred Flintstone did alright back then

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

To all the people who think this is about saving lives it is not about saving lives it's about a common policy in the EU to move people from fossil fuels to electric . Electric cars and Notorious for being fast acceleration with low top speed and will never compete with a large diesel or petrol engine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it saves some kids life outside a school or in a 30 it's cool with me.

Its intereating that the speed limit is a law that some consider their right to break.

The vast number of people driving have never run a child over and just because your car is limited does not and will not stop somebody from running somebody over child .

My counter-argument is if everybody is limited to the same speed some people will take other risks to try and save time I i.e. run a red light go the wrong way up a one way street tamper with the vehicles safety systems to allow it to go faster creating more danger than is currently there."

Also think of all the people with shocking 3d space perception "oh i can over take this car thats doing 25 in a 30" at 5 miles an hour faster its now going to take a long time and theyre stuck along side on the wrong side of the road. While the other people pissed about the person doing 25mph have closed up thier gap

The unconfidant drivers who cant do speedlimits would become rolling roadblocks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To all the people who think this is about saving lives it is not about saving lives it's about a common policy in the EU to move people from fossil fuels to electric . Electric cars and Notorious for being fast acceleration with low top speed and will never compete with a large diesel or petrol engine."

Electric motors beat petrol engines in top speed and acceleration till you start getting to the 600hp plus categories where the batteries/current carrying cant keep up.

Which is a tiny minority of cars anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm surprised they haven't introduced this earlier. . . Or gone one step further by having each new car fitted with a gps system that records its speed, then when the car goes over a speed limit in any given area you get a fixed penalty fine through the post . . . Now that's a scarier thought than any limiter being fitted !"

Hate to tell you but already happening...and I quote "Other measures agreed by the EU include making data recorders mandatory to help investigate vehicle crashes and assist research and a lane departure system, will also become obligatory"...oh and I should also mention automatic braking as well.

Anyone else figured out thats this has got bugger all to do with safety and everything to do with control? Thin end of the wedge... If they had the technology yet that could be fitted to control human behaviour...and it is coming (already have brain implants for good things like hearing and preventing fits) they would be advocating using that by saying how much safer we all would be and how it could stop wrongdoing of any kind.

All fine as long as you fit their notions of whats right and wrong. What if they decide swinging is wrong?

Its all getting a bit too big brother for me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would have thought having a black box inside the car permanently monitoring your location and speed will be the bigger thing to get used to.

The speed limiter in a car is something that a lot of modern cars have already anyway, it is just that today you have to set the speed manually where as in future it will be set done automatically (when you have the system turned on). I currently use this at certain times as it can be very useful in urban areas and average speed zones.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"On the face of it we may welcome this innovation. No maniacs driving at 60 through a 20 zone etc.... however

(Tin foil hats at the ready)

Picture the scenario....police HQ

officer says 'joe bloggs just sent a mean tweet about trans rights, global warming, muslims, the moon landings and vaccines hurting someone's feelings!'

Commander says 'where is the son of a bitch?'

Officer...'between junction 17 and 18 of the Northbound carriageway of the M6 doing 69 mph'

Commander...'ok kill the motor on his ford tippex, lock his doors and send a squad car round to arrest him....this menace to society

needs locked up!'

Sell it as a good thing first....then usher in the bad gradually. Just a thought "

Sounds like you're talking about the EU....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"wonder if motor bikes included

One rule for all road users even though some seem to think they’re exempt on current ones.

So all cars will be banned from the 3rd lane of the motorway.

Be restricted 50ish mph

Have to go back and resit thier test 3 times before they csn buy a full powered car

Take extra off the road skills tests.

And drive down between lanes?

Jesus"

I typed in haste as in one rule speed wise for cars and bikes as the comment I replied to was - “I wonder if motor bikes are included”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban cars use public transport it's eco friendly

Be quiet "
never cmon you know it's for the best ,get rid of the fuel guzzler for the self charging eco friendly hybrid pcv

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Mines already limited to 155 mph

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is why I stick to motorbikes haha!

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"Mines already limited to 155 mph "

I think you meant 15.5 mph didn't you

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"Mines already limited to 155 mph

I think you meant 15.5 mph didn't you "
yer I forgot the .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Was that really your first thought?!"

Yes.. thats why I put 'my first thought '

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I heard that black boxes will be fitted soon to all new cars, the info will be downloaded during a service or MOT.

The information will be used to give you penalty points, as it records when and where you broke any traffic laws.

Where is my 73 beetle now??,

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent

Bloody telling me I need to wear a seatbelt DON'T THEY KNOW I'M THE WORLD'S GREATEST DRIVER

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Especially after a few jars eh? Lol

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Bloody telling me I need to wear a seatbelt DON'T THEY KNOW I'M THE WORLD'S GREATEST DRIVER"

Trouble is you might be, but that won't stop you getting hit by the young lady driving at the speed limit whilst updating her insta...

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By *xtrafun4youMan
over a year ago

Dunstable


"Ban cars use public transport it's eco friendly "
Bollox 20 mile journey to work, if went on the bus it would take 2:10 takes 25 minutes. Don’t even go into the cost.

Public transport only works in towns.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

After witnessing a few cockwombles on the M27 today.

I'm grateful I made it home in one piece and would love to see it fitted on their cars

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over a year ago

I don’t see any harm in limiting the top end speed of a car.

I’ve never really understood why cars in the uk are limited to 155.

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over a year ago


"I don’t see any harm in limiting the top end speed of a car.

I’ve never really understood why cars in the uk are limited to 155. "

They aren't. Just most german manufacturers limit thiet production cars to that and most of our cars are german.

Makes it easier certifying the huge ranges for autobhan speeds to cap em at something they know is safely within thier limits.

Same as how all jap bikes are limited to 186 its not a legal things its judt an agreement between the companies.

Put a gentlemans agreement in place and they dont have to worry about wasting money going for top end for publicity and it also keeps regulators off thier backs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wonder what the unintended side effects will be though.

Take a standard german saloon limited to 70mph. Its now less than half its original design capacity.

Why rate the suspension so highly? Why bother with highspeed rims? Do you need a 6 speed or could you get away with 3 or 4, less user friendly but everyone will do the same.

Brakes dont need to be able to be any where near current spec big savings there. Gears drive shafts etc all can be shaved down too to save weight and cost sure it shouldnt affect things but running a lighter part at 99% capacity is going to lead to more common failures than running a stronger part at 50% most of the time.

Crash protection can that be toned down to save costs too?

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple
over a year ago

Dudley


"my first thought is it would put up value of older non-restricted cars as some want to drive at 71 mph."

My first thought is what will the authorities do without all the money from speeding fines and driver awareness courses!

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over a year ago


"I don’t see any harm in limiting the top end speed of a car.

I’ve never really understood why cars in the uk are limited to 155.

They aren't. Just most german manufacturers limit thiet production cars to that and most of our cars are german.

Makes it easier certifying the huge ranges for autobhan speeds to cap em at something they know is safely within thier limits.

Same as how all jap bikes are limited to 186 its not a legal things its judt an agreement between the companies.

Put a gentlemans agreement in place and they dont have to worry about wasting money going for top end for publicity and it also keeps regulators off thier backs"

Ah that makes sense when it’s put like that I guess.

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over a year ago


"my first thought is it would put up value of older non-restricted cars as some want to drive at 71 mph.

My first thought is what will the authorities do without all the money from speeding fines and driver awareness courses!"
raise taxes of which the fines were one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It saves lives....so yes

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over a year ago

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"Speed kills or didn't you know that

'Speed Kills' is just a catchphrase and in and of itself, it doesn't.

Speed does not kill.

Poor observation, poor forward planning, poor car control and inappropriate use of speed does.

M

PREACH"

Word.

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By *rMrsWestMidsCouple
over a year ago

Dudley


"my first thought is it would put up value of older non-restricted cars as some want to drive at 71 mph.

My first thought is what will the authorities do without all the money from speeding fines and driver awareness courses!raise taxes of which the fines were one "

Death and taxes the only certainties in life!

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over a year ago


"It saves lives....so yes "

Ban cars then?

Or better yet force obease people to serve hard labour till they're a healthy weight?

Would save vastly more lives.

1770 road deaths a year 25% speed was a factor in the death so round to 443 lives to be potentially saved.

1 in 11 uk deaths down to being over weight.

so thats 533 hundred thousand deaths a year so thats 48,454 lives that would be saved by stopping people being obese

Over 100 times the total lives that could be saved by this system every year.

Perhaps we shpuld black box fat people to monitor thier calorie intake?

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over a year ago


"my first thought is it would put up value of older non-restricted cars as some want to drive at 71 mph.

My first thought is what will the authorities do without all the money from speeding fines and driver awareness courses!raise taxes of which the fines were one

Death and taxes the only certainties in life! "
exactly if it's enjoyable they'll tax it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It saves lives....so yes

Ban cars then?

Or better yet force obease people to serve hard labour till they're a healthy weight?

Would save vastly more lives.

1770 road deaths a year 25% speed was a factor in the death so round to 443 lives to be potentially saved.

1 in 11 uk deaths down to being over weight.

so thats 533 hundred thousand deaths a year so thats 48,454 lives that would be saved by stopping people being obese

Over 100 times the total lives that could be saved by this system every year.

Perhaps we shpuld black box fat people to monitor thier calorie intake?"
you love Google don't you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It saves lives....so yes

Ban cars then?

Or better yet force obease people to serve hard labour till they're a healthy weight?

Would save vastly more lives.

1770 road deaths a year 25% speed was a factor in the death so round to 443 lives to be potentially saved.

1 in 11 uk deaths down to being over weight.

so thats 533 hundred thousand deaths a year so thats 48,454 lives that would be saved by stopping people being obese

Over 100 times the total lives that could be saved by this system every year.

Perhaps we shpuld black box fat people to monitor thier calorie intake?you love Google don't you "

I have the ONS site bookmarked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It saves lives....so yes

Ban cars then?

Or better yet force obease people to serve hard labour till they're a healthy weight?

Would save vastly more lives.

1770 road deaths a year 25% speed was a factor in the death so round to 443 lives to be potentially saved.

1 in 11 uk deaths down to being over weight.

so thats 533 hundred thousand deaths a year so thats 48,454 lives that would be saved by stopping people being obese

Over 100 times the total lives that could be saved by this system every year.

Perhaps we shpuld black box fat people to monitor thier calorie intake?you love Google don't you

I have the ONS site bookmarked "
knew it and you type with both hands 3 fingers on each

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

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I'm uncertain as it has to add to the cost of a car. Maps and software will require updates too - so someone has to pay for it and do it, for the whole life of the vehicle! I think I'd prefer the money to be invested in bringing forwards much, much more affordable electric vehicles. I largely drive at the speed limit, where safe to do so and support improved driving quality.

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over a year ago

In an honest society one that truly values safety and saving lives how can we justify sports cars that do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and do 10 miles to the gallon ,I see speed limiters as the only way forward ,motorists are treated like criminals now let us regain self esteem, no points on our licence for speeding ,no attending speed awareness classes ,no speed cameras on our roads ........freedom, driving will once again be getting from A to B slowly

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"In an honest society one that truly values safety and saving lives how can we justify sports cars that do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and do 10 miles to the gallon ,I see speed limiters as the only way forward ,motorists are treated like criminals now let us regain self esteem, no points on our licence for speeding ,no attending speed awareness classes ,no speed cameras on our roads ........freedom, driving will once again be getting from A to B slowly "
why should we have to justify buying a sports car

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over a year ago


"In an honest society one that truly values safety and saving lives how can we justify sports cars that do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and do 10 miles to the gallon ,I see speed limiters as the only way forward ,motorists are treated like criminals now let us regain self esteem, no points on our licence for speeding ,no attending speed awareness classes ,no speed cameras on our roads ........freedom, driving will once again be getting from A to B slowly why should we have to justify buying a sports car "
ecology, waste,fuel consumption, unsociability and speed ,we have green bins ,brown bins and grey bins now we recycle I'm sure you agree with that ,it follows that everything that's not eco friendly or creates an unsafe environment will have to be monitored and this is the start

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"In an honest society one that truly values safety and saving lives how can we justify sports cars that do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and do 10 miles to the gallon ,I see speed limiters as the only way forward ,motorists are treated like criminals now let us regain self esteem, no points on our licence for speeding ,no attending speed awareness classes ,no speed cameras on our roads ........freedom, driving will once again be getting from A to B slowly why should we have to justify buying a sports car ecology, waste,fuel consumption, unsociability and speed ,we have green bins ,brown bins and grey bins now we recycle I'm sure you agree with that ,it follows that everything that's not eco friendly or creates an unsafe environment will have to be monitored and this is the start "
I do all of the above and have had solar panels recently installed much to my neighbors alarm he hates the look of them so am I justified in owning a car that has a v10 engine? I don’t drive it often as I use a van most days which is probably more of a pollutant than the car

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over a year ago


"In an honest society one that truly values safety and saving lives how can we justify sports cars that do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and do 10 miles to the gallon ,I see speed limiters as the only way forward ,motorists are treated like criminals now let us regain self esteem, no points on our licence for speeding ,no attending speed awareness classes ,no speed cameras on our roads ........freedom, driving will once again be getting from A to B slowly why should we have to justify buying a sports car ecology, waste,fuel consumption, unsociability and speed ,we have green bins ,brown bins and grey bins now we recycle I'm sure you agree with that ,it follows that everything that's not eco friendly or creates an unsafe environment will have to be monitored and this is the start I do all of the above and have had solar panels recently installed much to my neighbors alarm he hates the look of them so am I justified in owning a car that has a v10 engine? I don’t drive it often as I use a van most days which is probably more of a pollutant than the car "
in the days when driving amounted to freedom and you hurtled down the Queens highway looking like a streak of lightening yes I agree a V10 omg but now we know it's not good these things have to be part of our history ,cycle ,walk ,jog use public transport do your bit for the environment you live in

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"In an honest society one that truly values safety and saving lives how can we justify sports cars that do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and do 10 miles to the gallon ,I see speed limiters as the only way forward ,motorists are treated like criminals now let us regain self esteem, no points on our licence for speeding ,no attending speed awareness classes ,no speed cameras on our roads ........freedom, driving will once again be getting from A to B slowly why should we have to justify buying a sports car ecology, waste,fuel consumption, unsociability and speed ,we have green bins ,brown bins and grey bins now we recycle I'm sure you agree with that ,it follows that everything that's not eco friendly or creates an unsafe environment will have to be monitored and this is the start I do all of the above and have had solar panels recently installed much to my neighbors alarm he hates the look of them so am I justified in owning a car that has a v10 engine? I don’t drive it often as I use a van most days which is probably more of a pollutant than the car in the days when driving amounted to freedom and you hurtled down the Queens highway looking like a streak of lightening yes I agree a V10 omg but now we know it's not good these things have to be part of our history ,cycle ,walk ,jog use public transport do your bit for the environment you live in "

Yeh I can just see myself lugging all my work gear on the bus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In an honest society one that truly values safety and saving lives how can we justify sports cars that do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and do 10 miles to the gallon ,I see speed limiters as the only way forward ,motorists are treated like criminals now let us regain self esteem, no points on our licence for speeding ,no attending speed awareness classes ,no speed cameras on our roads ........freedom, driving will once again be getting from A to B slowly why should we have to justify buying a sports car ecology, waste,fuel consumption, unsociability and speed ,we have green bins ,brown bins and grey bins now we recycle I'm sure you agree with that ,it follows that everything that's not eco friendly or creates an unsafe environment will have to be monitored and this is the start I do all of the above and have had solar panels recently installed much to my neighbors alarm he hates the look of them so am I justified in owning a car that has a v10 engine? I don’t drive it often as I use a van most days which is probably more of a pollutant than the car in the days when driving amounted to freedom and you hurtled down the Queens highway looking like a streak of lightening yes I agree a V10 omg but now we know it's not good these things have to be part of our history ,cycle ,walk ,jog use public transport do your bit for the environment you live in

Yeh I can just see myself lugging all my work gear on the bus "
suitcase on wheels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We really should be looking at raising speed limits on motorways tbh."

Deffo this!

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over a year ago


"In an honest society one that truly values safety and saving lives how can we justify sports cars that do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and do 10 miles to the gallon ,I see speed limiters as the only way forward ,motorists are treated like criminals now let us regain self esteem, no points on our licence for speeding ,no attending speed awareness classes ,no speed cameras on our roads ........freedom, driving will once again be getting from A to B slowly why should we have to justify buying a sports car ecology, waste,fuel consumption, unsociability and speed ,we have green bins ,brown bins and grey bins now we recycle I'm sure you agree with that ,it follows that everything that's not eco friendly or creates an unsafe environment will have to be monitored and this is the start I do all of the above and have had solar panels recently installed much to my neighbors alarm he hates the look of them so am I justified in owning a car that has a v10 engine? I don’t drive it often as I use a van most days which is probably more of a pollutant than the car in the days when driving amounted to freedom and you hurtled down the Queens highway looking like a streak of lightening yes I agree a V10 omg but now we know it's not good these things have to be part of our history ,cycle ,walk ,jog use public transport do your bit for the environment you live in

Yeh I can just see myself lugging all my work gear on the bus "
you'll be alright you can get a self charging hybrid

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"In an honest society one that truly values safety and saving lives how can we justify sports cars that do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and do 10 miles to the gallon ,I see speed limiters as the only way forward ,motorists are treated like criminals now let us regain self esteem, no points on our licence for speeding ,no attending speed awareness classes ,no speed cameras on our roads ........freedom, driving will once again be getting from A to B slowly why should we have to justify buying a sports car ecology, waste,fuel consumption, unsociability and speed ,we have green bins ,brown bins and grey bins now we recycle I'm sure you agree with that ,it follows that everything that's not eco friendly or creates an unsafe environment will have to be monitored and this is the start I do all of the above and have had solar panels recently installed much to my neighbors alarm he hates the look of them so am I justified in owning a car that has a v10 engine? I don’t drive it often as I use a van most days which is probably more of a pollutant than the car in the days when driving amounted to freedom and you hurtled down the Queens highway looking like a streak of lightening yes I agree a V10 omg but now we know it's not good these things have to be part of our history ,cycle ,walk ,jog use public transport do your bit for the environment you live in "
I couldn’t use public transport due to my job and the amount of tools I need and I don’t think I could get on a train or buss with 20 sheets of mdf and walking and jogging yes good way to keep fit but I still don’t see why we have to justify buying a big car just out of curiosity do you go on holiday abroad and if you do how do you get there

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By *2000ManMan
over a year ago

Worthing

What will happen when a car leaves a motorway or dual carriage way and enters a slower speed zone? Will the card gradually slow down or suddenly brake sharply? Will the brake lights come on?

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"In an honest society one that truly values safety and saving lives how can we justify sports cars that do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and do 10 miles to the gallon ,I see speed limiters as the only way forward ,motorists are treated like criminals now let us regain self esteem, no points on our licence for speeding ,no attending speed awareness classes ,no speed cameras on our roads ........freedom, driving will once again be getting from A to B slowly why should we have to justify buying a sports car ecology, waste,fuel consumption, unsociability and speed ,we have green bins ,brown bins and grey bins now we recycle I'm sure you agree with that ,it follows that everything that's not eco friendly or creates an unsafe environment will have to be monitored and this is the start I do all of the above and have had solar panels recently installed much to my neighbors alarm he hates the look of them so am I justified in owning a car that has a v10 engine? I don’t drive it often as I use a van most days which is probably more of a pollutant than the car in the days when driving amounted to freedom and you hurtled down the Queens highway looking like a streak of lightening yes I agree a V10 omg but now we know it's not good these things have to be part of our history ,cycle ,walk ,jog use public transport do your bit for the environment you live in

Yeh I can just see myself lugging all my work gear on the bus suitcase on wheels "

Hmmmmmm let me think....my poisons in one case....fogger in another....shall i go on...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A more sensible idea would be to fit cars with breathalysers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As ever, blame the tool not the user..."

Same thing

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"In an honest society one that truly values safety and saving lives how can we justify sports cars that do 0-60 in 4.3 seconds and do 10 miles to the gallon ,I see speed limiters as the only way forward ,motorists are treated like criminals now let us regain self esteem, no points on our licence for speeding ,no attending speed awareness classes ,no speed cameras on our roads ........freedom, driving will once again be getting from A to B slowly why should we have to justify buying a sports car ecology, waste,fuel consumption, unsociability and speed ,we have green bins ,brown bins and grey bins now we recycle I'm sure you agree with that ,it follows that everything that's not eco friendly or creates an unsafe environment will have to be monitored and this is the start I do all of the above and have had solar panels recently installed much to my neighbors alarm he hates the look of them so am I justified in owning a car that has a v10 engine? I don’t drive it often as I use a van most days which is probably more of a pollutant than the car in the days when driving amounted to freedom and you hurtled down the Queens highway looking like a streak of lightening yes I agree a V10 omg but now we know it's not good these things have to be part of our history ,cycle ,walk ,jog use public transport do your bit for the environment you live in

Yeh I can just see myself lugging all my work gear on the bus suitcase on wheels

Hmmmmmm let me think....my poisons in one case....fogger in another....shall i go on... "
poison omg it's not you Mary?

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