FabSwingers.com forum: Is Britain finished as a place of hope?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

If so, what needs changing?

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By *andy cane321Couple
over a year ago

Aylesbury

Dont really understand politics that much, but id start with the government

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Dont really understand politics that much, but id start with the government

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Every type of government?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If so, what needs changing?"
yes no hope left ,I for one have given up ,we're not part of Europe anymore they are changing atlases and globes as we speak ,language at schools is being reconstructed our first language will be mandarin and second Indian crossing European boundaries will require a visa and the pound has lost all value not even the Asians want it anymore ,I may emigrate to Singapore

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If so, what needs changing?yes no hope left ,I for one have given up ,we're not part of Europe anymore they are changing atlases and globes as we speak ,language at schools is being reconstructed our first language will be mandarin and second Indian crossing European boundaries will require a visa and the pound has lost all value not even the Asians want it anymore ,I may emigrate to Singapore "
All views welcome!

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over a year ago

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

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just the definition of hope has changed.

Now you can hope to pick fruit and veg in the summer and wait tables, before you could hope to have a successful company and sell it to rich asians.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"just the definition of hope has changed.

Now you can hope to pick fruit and veg in the summer and wait tables, before you could hope to have a successful company and sell it to rich asians."
Interesting.

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By *ay19720Man
over a year ago

Ashford kent

"If so, what needs changing?"

Oh lord..lol

You can do a little research and see .200 odd labour mps done for kiddy porn..jezza turned blind eye..it there to go find.....the endless pedos linked to parliament. .ie..edward heath..ect..then the crown.

Prince Andrew epstien island .young girls...prince Charles..friends with savile .and that priest..weekly letters..rolf harris painting the queen..also queens buttler done for runni g pedo ring in buck house and bellmoral...it goes on..police state..gchq..like nsa..

So the fix...to leave eu ..no deal..and become a Republic. ....out the queen..out the mps..start over..

Viva The Republic of England. ..

Just saying..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves. "
You mean discover the good things out there for ourselves?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The country is fucked

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If so, what needs changing?

Oh lord..lol

So the fix...to leave eu ..no deal..and become a Republic. ....out the queen..out the mps..start over..

Viva The Republic of England. ..

Just saying..

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You should be an investigative reporter!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If so, what needs changing?

Oh lord..lol

So the fix...to leave eu ..no deal..and become a Republic. ....out the queen..out the mps..start over..

Viva The Republic of England. ..

Just saying..

You should be an investigative reporter!"

Is the Beano hiring?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves. You mean discover the good things out there for ourselves?"

We have the highest employment for 50 years!! Several countries in EU are absolutely knackered. Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece.... all had major economic problems. Germany and France have wobbled.

We have a habit of looking for negatives and also listening to morons, e.g Tommy Robinson etc.

We used to just moan about the weather, now people complain/panic about anything.

Stiff upper lip everybody, we are British!! Don't worry, it's only a flesh wound!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely not there is always hope!

The majority of people in this country are good and kind and decent that is why there will always be hope.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If so, what needs changing?

Oh lord..lol

So the fix...to leave eu ..no deal..and become a Republic. ....out the queen..out the mps..start over..

Viva The Republic of England. ..

Just saying..

You should be an investigative reporter!

Is the Beano hiring?

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The Dandy might be!

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in"

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have the highest employment for 50 years, so they say.

Well I wonder are they counting all the people who claim benefits and have been put into temporary job schemes..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves. "

I hope you are right. I hope the future is a good and prosperous one for my children and grandchildren. I will bring them up to be hardworking good humans and the rest is upto the world they have to live in.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

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"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves.

They will be fine, the uk will adjust from a country that dreams of being billionaires, to a country that dreams of being millionaires.

With the EU not protecting the UK anymore a lot of jobs will be gone, but other types will open up, and a lower cost of living will come in to probably allow more people live a pretty decent modest life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?"

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3. "

Wow I didn't realise this!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Changing altlases and globes???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves. "

Need to explain how really. It just say it’s so .....please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If so, what needs changing?

Oh lord..lol

So the fix...to leave eu ..no deal..and become a Republic. ....out the queen..out the mps..start over..

Viva The Republic of England. ..

Just saying..

Can you direct us to this research ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

Wow I didn't realise this!! "

Worse out? Really? Need to prove that not just say it’s so. As big out? Nope.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

Lol @ the Republic of England!!!! Next time you come to Wales bring your passport!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I'm hoping that the whole knife crime thing sorts its self out soon. Seems to be spreading like cancer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

Wow I didn't realise this!!

Worse out? Really? Need to prove that not just say it’s so. As big out? Nope. "

What?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm hoping that the whole knife crime thing sorts its self out soon. Seems to be spreading like cancer. "

Sorts itself out?

'ere Knife Crime, have a word with yourself...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3. "

All done with the help of them damn foreigners too!!

See my point is if its going so well why the fuck would we want to change it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope to be living in the sun in 10 years drinking rum and fishing on my boat.

There's always hope.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I stopped watching the news a year ago, it’s bliss. I have no idea what’s going on. Are Ultravox number one, or is Joe Dolce still there ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like every generation before us we are leaving it all to the children...However,I'm not so sure it's in safe hands this time,mostly because they're getting hooked on social media and walking around with their heads up their arses.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

The actual concept of this great country leaving Europe does not bother me . Europe can wax lyrical , beat their chests but the foundations are starting to crumble . France will follow . I’m more concerned about the spineless shite we have currently sitting on their fat cat salaries in parliament . I hate to say it but we would not be in this position with a Thatcher type figure at the helm !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

All done with the help of them damn foreigners too!!

See my point is if its going so well why the fuck would we want to change it?"

No we were still number 5 before we joined.

Fance has fell q couple of places china has risen bit other that nothing much has changed for the big 5

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

We need to rediscover a politics of kindness.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

"We need to rediscover a politics of kindness. "

Politics of kindness?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

All done with the help of them damn foreigners too!!

See my point is if its going so well why the fuck would we want to change it?

No we were still number 5 before we joined.

Fance has fell q couple of places china has risen bit other that nothing much has changed for the big 5"

https://voxeu.org/article/britain-s-eu-membership-new-insight-economic-history

The sick man of Europe was what we were called, the figures are all in that link

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We need to rediscover a politics of kindness. "

Look what being kind has done to us !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think change needs to start with the individual and be person led!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We need to rediscover a politics of kindness. "

If you’re to kind, you get walked over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we need to swap our prime minister for new Zealand's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Accountability in politics. I've been saying this for ages.

Also people need to recognise we aren't the powerhouse we once were, and that the world is getting a lot smaller and more developed.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

Let Trump negotiate our Brexit !!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We need to rediscover a politics of kindness.

If you’re to kind, you get walked over."

I haven't found it so ... and people will sit around and moan about everything but do nothing

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

"We need to rediscover a politics of kindness.

Look what being kind has done to us !"

What has it done to us?

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

"We need to rediscover a politics of kindness.

If you’re to kind, you get walked over."

You can be strong and cruel or strong and kind. It’s got nothing to do with being walked over. That’s about weakness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not part of Europe?

Has there been a big tectonic plate movement I haven't been aware of?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The UK is a great place with great values. Thanks to the UK we now have great places like Canada. They share our values and do it better. These islands need to be bigger and sometimes feel a little crowded. Maybe we need to export he idea of Britishness? Want to be a Brit, obtain a grant and get all the benefits except live here. Over 50% of a country change to British, it becomes part of the UK. Discuss...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If so, what needs changing?

Oh lord..lol

So the fix...to leave eu ..no deal..and become a Republic. ....out the queen..out the mps..start over..

Viva The Republic of England. ..

Just saying..

You're wrong

Everyone knows that get rid of paedo's we just need to cull every male that has been inside a mosque

Not only are they kiddy fiddlers but they might blow us all up too

So win, win

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

"Let Trump negotiate our Brexit !!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If so, what needs changing?

Oh lord..lol

So the fix...to leave eu ..no deal..and become a Republic. ....out the queen..out the mps..start over..

Viva The Republic of England. ..

Just saying..

You're wrong

Everyone knows that get rid of paedo's we just need to cull every male that has been inside a mosque

Not only are they kiddy fiddlers but they might blow us all up too

So win, win

Can I just point out, the sarcasm filter was in heavy use here

Ya know, just in case

People : don't believe the rhetoric

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I genuinely think a group of children could have handled Brexit better than the clowns in Westminster.

Sadly the country is a laughing stock and it's absolutely deserved.

We have become a country where people rely on food banks and our schools are lacking resources, teacher's and often are decrepit buildings. Funding for anything is being cut constantly and our most vulnerable are being denied.

However it means that now more than ever life is what you make it. choose your own path and work harder than ever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Changing altlases and globes??? "
yes remapping the world without Britain as part of Europe notice I say Britain and not great Britain the great went when we lost the coal industry and what that guy above said about the Asian population it's out of control that and the melting polar ice cap ,we're doomed buy a boat and move to high ground buy a place with land have a vegetable garden and rear chickens it's the only way ,the end is nigh who wrote the doomsday book again ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

All done with the help of them damn foreigners too!!

See my point is if its going so well why the fuck would we want to change it?

No we were still number 5 before we joined.

Fance has fell q couple of places china has risen bit other that nothing much has changed for the big 5

https://voxeu.org/article/britain-s-eu-membership-new-insight-economic-history

The sick man of Europe was what we were called, the figures are all in that link"

And yet we were the 5th largest economy when we joined and are the 5th largest economy now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Changing altlases and globes??? yes remapping the world without Britain as part of Europe notice I say Britain and not great Britain the great went when we lost the coal industry and what that guy above said about the Asian population it's out of control that and the melting polar ice cap ,we're doomed buy a boat and move to high ground buy a place with land have a vegetable garden and rear chickens it's the only way ,the end is nigh who wrote the doomsday book again ?

Maps and globes dont show political unions.

Ans the doomsday book was a census

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give me a goat or two and a shotgun aswell and Im in. Doesnt sound a bad way to end your days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give me a goat or two and a shotgun aswell and Im in. Doesnt sound a bad way to end your days"
we'll start a community of sexually liberated gardeners

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

All done with the help of them damn foreigners too!!

See my point is if its going so well why the fuck would we want to change it?

No we were still number 5 before we joined.

Fance has fell q couple of places china has risen bit other that nothing much has changed for the big 5

https://voxeu.org/article/britain-s-eu-membership-new-insight-economic-history

The sick man of Europe was what we were called, the figures are all in that link

And yet we were the 5th largest economy when we joined and are the 5th largest economy now"

I can find no proof we were 5th at the time

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Is Britain finished as a place of hope?"

I hope not

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By *sasimpleMan
over a year ago

D & G

Yes the country's fecked.

Politicians used to be elected to serve their constituents. Nowadays it seems that after being elected they serve the party they are a member of. A subtle difference.

Ban political parties.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

No... even if/when the country is in a bit if a slump, Britain is without a doubt better in every way than 95% of the rest of the world.

Cal

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

Thee is nothing wrong with the country but maybe a few people do need to take a good hard look in the mirror

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not part of Europe?

Has there been a big tectonic plate movement I haven't been aware of? "
yes the andreas fault has moved it's fed up with trump so is vacating on the borders of Europe of which we are not part anymore ,the Asian community are renaming us little Asia we are a holding island for world domination

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves. You mean discover the good things out there for ourselves?

We have the highest employment for 50 years!! Several countries in EU are absolutely knackered. Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece.... all had major economic problems. Germany and France have wobbled.

We have a habit of looking for negatives and also listening to morons, e.g Tommy Robinson etc.

We used to just moan about the weather, now people complain/panic about anything.

Stiff upper lip everybody, we are British!! Don't worry, it's only a flesh wound!

Finally found someone who can see what's real and not absorbing all the media spin. Been saying this ever since we voted to take back control. So many just ignore the cracks in the EU the last 10 years.

We'd still be better leaving with no deal and then sorting things out afterwards. The EU desperately need us in many ways too. Primary reason for making it so hard for us to leave, second reason so no one else jumps ship. Germany will be standing at the helm when it goes down.

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"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

All done with the help of them damn foreigners too!!

See my point is if its going so well why the fuck would we want to change it?

No we were still number 5 before we joined.

Fance has fell q couple of places china has risen bit other that nothing much has changed for the big 5

https://voxeu.org/article/britain-s-eu-membership-new-insight-economic-history

The sick man of Europe was what we were called, the figures are all in that link

And yet we were the 5th largest economy when we joined and are the 5th largest economy now

I can find no proof we were 5th at the time "

Really? You are incapable of finding gdp figures for 1972?

I mean i was gonna do a lmgtfy link but i felt that would be too far

http://en.classora.com/reports/t24369/ranking-of-the-worlds-richest-countries-by-gdp?edition=1972

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over a year ago

If you need to ask the question, then I doubt it. Hope can be a flickering ember or Phoenix

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over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

All done with the help of them damn foreigners too!!

See my point is if its going so well why the fuck would we want to change it?

No we were still number 5 before we joined.

Fance has fell q couple of places china has risen bit other that nothing much has changed for the big 5

https://voxeu.org/article/britain-s-eu-membership-new-insight-economic-history

The sick man of Europe was what we were called, the figures are all in that link

And yet we were the 5th largest economy when we joined and are the 5th largest economy now

I can find no proof we were 5th at the time

Really? You are incapable of finding gdp figures for 1972?

I mean i was gonna do a lmgtfy link but i felt that would be too far

http://en.classora.com/reports/t24369/ranking-of-the-worlds-richest-countries-by-gdp?edition=1972"

Gee thanks, perfect example of why there are divisions, you are soooooo much cleverer

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over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

All done with the help of them damn foreigners too!!

See my point is if its going so well why the fuck would we want to change it?

No we were still number 5 before we joined.

Fance has fell q couple of places china has risen bit other that nothing much has changed for the big 5

https://voxeu.org/article/britain-s-eu-membership-new-insight-economic-history

The sick man of Europe was what we were called, the figures are all in that link

And yet we were the 5th largest economy when we joined and are the 5th largest economy now

I can find no proof we were 5th at the time "

Here you csn even have a fun animation from 1960 (where we were 2nd) till now

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/animation-the-worlds-10-largest-economies-by-gdp-1960-today/

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over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

All done with the help of them damn foreigners too!!

See my point is if its going so well why the fuck would we want to change it?

No we were still number 5 before we joined.

Fance has fell q couple of places china has risen bit other that nothing much has changed for the big 5

https://voxeu.org/article/britain-s-eu-membership-new-insight-economic-history

The sick man of Europe was what we were called, the figures are all in that link

And yet we were the 5th largest economy when we joined and are the 5th largest economy now

I can find no proof we were 5th at the time

Really? You are incapable of finding gdp figures for 1972?

I mean i was gonna do a lmgtfy link but i felt that would be too far

http://en.classora.com/reports/t24369/ranking-of-the-worlds-richest-countries-by-gdp?edition=1972

Gee thanks, perfect example of why there are divisions, you are soooooo much cleverer

You just literally said you could find no proof of one of the most highly documented statistics in economics.

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over a year ago

Yes brexit lol.

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By *irth VaderMan
over a year ago

glasgow

The Queens needs to jail every fucker in government. They had an opportunity to make it a success but have been to focused feathering their own nests. they are incompetent and disgraceful.

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over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

All done with the help of them damn foreigners too!!

See my point is if its going so well why the fuck would we want to change it?

No we were still number 5 before we joined.

Fance has fell q couple of places china has risen bit other that nothing much has changed for the big 5

https://voxeu.org/article/britain-s-eu-membership-new-insight-economic-history

The sick man of Europe was what we were called, the figures are all in that link

And yet we were the 5th largest economy when we joined and are the 5th largest economy now

I can find no proof we were 5th at the time

Really? You are incapable of finding gdp figures for 1972?

I mean i was gonna do a lmgtfy link but i felt that would be too far

http://en.classora.com/reports/t24369/ranking-of-the-worlds-richest-countries-by-gdp?edition=1972

Gee thanks, perfect example of why there are divisions, you are soooooo much cleverer

You just literally said you could find no proof of one of the most highly documented statistics in economics.

So we went from 2nd to 5th so before joining the Eu we were falling down the table, your words!!! Byeeeeeee

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By *ay19720Man
over a year ago

Ashford kent

"If so, what needs changing?

Oh lord..lol

So the fix...to leave eu ..no deal..and become a Republic. ....out the queen..out the mps..start over..

Viva The Republic of England. ..

Just saying..

You should be an investigative reporter!"

What makes u think im not...lol

Knowledge is power they say..

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over a year ago

No its not but London maybe.

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over a year ago

To say this country has no hope shows how much is taken for granted by many of it's residents. Whatever happens, life goes on here. One thing we are really good at is carrying on regardless. And complaining. It isn't anywhere near as bad as I've heard some make it out to be. Sure, there are folks that have it hard or are down on their luck, but it's better here than the majority of the rest of the world.

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By *ay19720Man
over a year ago

Ashford kent

"If so, what needs changing?

Oh lord..lol

So the fix...to leave eu ..no deal..and become a Republic. ....out the queen..out the mps..start over..

Viva The Republic of England. ..

Just saying..

You should be an investigative reporter!

Is the Beano hiring?

I want the truth.

YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH.

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over a year ago

"The Queens needs to jail every fucker in government. They had an opportunity to make it a success but have been to focused feathering their own nests. they are incompetent and disgraceful. "

There's a few who have nearly died trying but totally agree. I for one am impressed witwith integrity and the will to do what the majority voted for. She's never taken the easy option, but pursued what she's felt to be right in the face of constant bickering, slander and slight of the sword from cowards. Corbin has demonstrated his true communist colours.

There has been good as you have said to highlight the true face those in government. Most are snivelling worms with not a back bone in sight.

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over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves.

Need to explain how really. It just say it’s so .....please "

I think my point is that people are forming opinions based on social media, story selling newspapers, gossip and anything else other than what they actually see themselves in their lives. We are a very rich country. I spoke to my dentist yesterday, she is Portugese and works here because there are no jobs for her in Portugal, fewer people are going to the dentist in her homeland because they can't afford it. There is also 2 Spanish lady dentists where I go. We as a nation need to look beyond our doorsteps. I have a lot of other examples.

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over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves.

Need to explain how really. It just say it’s so .....please

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over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

Wow I didn't realise this!! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

crazy idea ..but why don't we have a vote to leave Europe..

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over a year ago

"crazy idea ..but why don't we have a vote to leave Europe..

Nah, I reckon there might be a bit of controversy over it if they ever did something like that

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over a year ago

Countries just exist.

It's the people where hope lives.

If we the people lose our hope then maybe the world becomes a darker greyer place.

Hope in your dreams today, whatever they may be....

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over a year ago

"Countries just exist.

It's the people where hope lives.

If we the people lose our hope then maybe the world becomes a darker greyer place.

Hope in your dreams today, whatever they may be...."

This totally ^^^

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over a year ago

"The Queens needs to jail every fucker in government. They had an opportunity to make it a success but have been to focused feathering their own nests. they are incompetent and disgraceful. "

Is that the queen who was not voted into that position?

Please tell me you are not going to pull the democracy card lol

Brexiteers

We want to make our own decisions with our laws

Bercow

Ok there you go, have that

Brexiteers

Oh no we don't like that

What a bunch of fucking arse wipes

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves.

Need to explain how really. It just say it’s so .....please

That’s a sweeping generalisation regarding social media and newspapers . The majority of people I know voted to leave on personal circumstances and what’s going on in their neighbourhoods

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"No its not but London maybe. "

We should build a wall...

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over a year ago

Some ideas people have are strange. So many read the media without thinking, not able to read between the lines, unable to see what it really is saying rather than what they spin.

Who says banking in leaving the UK? The was bollocks spin from the remainers. Oldest most conservative institution in the wirld. They will not move. They have to remain together in order to support their system. Where would they go? How would they agree together (worst than the EU leaders), the cost of them moving would be colossal, prohibitive. They don't like change either.

GDP is only one way of measuring growth and as has been clearly shown us often misinterpreted. It must be placed against other figures and other information to be of any value. Not just population either, but age of population, % of workforce/unemployed, stability of the main industries supporting that too.

Retaining the Sterling instead of handing it over to the Euro was one of the best things we did when we joined. There were main at the time advocating jumping in hook line and sinker. It's never called short of the Euro as again many tabloids and even some financial institutions predicted prior to the Brexit vote. Why? It has more substance in its foundations than the Euro.

When you look at the size, population of out country compared to all in the current top 10, it speaks volumes.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

As long as young people are taught that it's ok not be able to spell, it's ok to smoke drugs and use your phone while driving. Your main priorities are "Insta" and how many followers you have on Twitter. The more fucked we will be.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"As long as young people are taught that it's ok not be able to spell, it's ok to smoke drugs and use your phone while driving. Your main priorities are "Insta" and how many followers you have on Twitter. The more fucked we will be. "
Couldnt have put it better myself

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

For people to stop moaning and crack on with the opportunities it will provide.

The people of Britain are too soft, have been molly coddled for too long, expect everything without graft.

If you look at the rest of Europe, the majority have national service, we recently couldn't defend a few fishing boats.

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over a year ago

Its the modern class system.

We have become very good at it without actually admitting it exists.

Double, triple and in some cases more standards is driving us to start having these thoughts...

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over a year ago

"The Queens needs to jail every fucker in government. They had an opportunity to make it a success but have been to focused feathering their own nests. they are incompetent and disgraceful.

Is that the queen who was not voted into that position?

Please tell me you are not going to pull the democracy card lol

Brexiteers

We want to make our own decisions with our laws

Bercow

Ok there you go, have that

Brexiteers

Oh no we don't like that

What a bunch of fucking arse wipes "

Well i think the issue with bercow he jas been rather vocal precidents.

Namely back in january where he said

"‘I am not in the business of invoking precedent, nor am I under any obligation to do so."

In order to table a brexit vote by Dominic greives

Its a bit hypocritical of him to ignore precident to deny one action and then cite it to supoort anothet

It kinda hints he may be abusing his potion to influence policy

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over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

All done with the help of them damn foreigners too!!

See my point is if its going so well why the fuck would we want to change it?

No we were still number 5 before we joined.

Fance has fell q couple of places china has risen bit other that nothing much has changed for the big 5

https://voxeu.org/article/britain-s-eu-membership-new-insight-economic-history

The sick man of Europe was what we were called, the figures are all in that link

And yet we were the 5th largest economy when we joined and are the 5th largest economy now

I can find no proof we were 5th at the time

Really? You are incapable of finding gdp figures for 1972?

I mean i was gonna do a lmgtfy link but i felt that would be too far

http://en.classora.com/reports/t24369/ranking-of-the-worlds-richest-countries-by-gdp?edition=1972

Gee thanks, perfect example of why there are divisions, you are soooooo much cleverer

You just literally said you could find no proof of one of the most highly documented statistics in economics.

So we went from 2nd to 5th so before joining the Eu we were falling down the table, your words!!! Byeeeeeee"

Well yes we kinda divested the empire in that period and the other major world powers recovered from the devastation of ww2.

Indeed bye

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"For people to stop moaning and crack on with the opportunities it will provide.

The people of Britain are too soft, have been molly coddled for too long, expect everything without graft.

If you look at the rest of Europe, the majority have national service, we recently couldn't defend a few fishing boats.

Funnily enough I don't recall that being on the side of a bus during the campaign.

"vote brexit so you can be made to work harder and we will put your kids at risk of death".

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over a year ago

"For people to stop moaning and crack on with the opportunities it will provide.

The people of Britain are too soft, have been molly coddled for too long, expect everything without graft.

If you look at the rest of Europe, the majority have national service, we recently couldn't defend a few fishing boats.

"
well you never know what kinda bacteria you can get off an old fishing boat

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over a year ago

"For people to stop moaning and crack on with the opportunities it will provide.

The people of Britain are too soft, have been molly coddled for too long, expect everything without graft.

If you look at the rest of Europe, the majority have national service, we recently couldn't defend a few fishing boats.

You say this as if you have ever done any national service?

Also im not entirely sure that massacaring EU civilians with heavy naval fire would have done much to boost relations....

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over a year ago

"For people to stop moaning and crack on with the opportunities it will provide.

The people of Britain are too soft, have been molly coddled for too long, expect everything without graft.

If you look at the rest of Europe, the majority have national service, we recently couldn't defend a few fishing boats.

There we have the gammon comment of the week

Ideologies like this are the reason we are in this pickle.

You really shouldn't be allowed a vote if you have this mentality

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes we need palpatine

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over a year ago

"For people to stop moaning and crack on with the opportunities it will provide.

The people of Britain are too soft, have been molly coddled for too long, expect everything without graft.

If you look at the rest of Europe, the majority have national service, we recently couldn't defend a few fishing boats.

There we have the gammon comment of the week

Ideologies like this are the reason we are in this pickle.

You really shouldn't be allowed a vote if you have this mentality "

That’s not how democracy works.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If Brexit is sorted properly Britain can be great again , but that stupid bitch trying to do it is a waste of space ,

We’d have been better off if Nigel was spring it’s out

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

"Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3. "

UK is punching above its weight at 5th, and held that possession due to protections put in place by the EU.

The EU put its 500 million behind the UK and said to Japan, "if you want your cars sold in the EU then bolt them together in the UK", Toyota, Nissan, Honda all had plants.

As soon as brexit was triggered the EU said to Japan, "You can ship cars for the EU market directly from Japan and no longer need to bolt them together in the UK or the EU", and Nissan said it would close, Honda said it would close.

Anyone doing any high currency exchange in Euro in the world was directed toward UK banks.The UK despite not being a euro country was given the clearing to do most of the banking in the EU in the background.

In northern Ireland they were building parts for airplanes, it was the only job provider for miles and miles and the UK could not protect it, even during brexit the EU stepped in to protect the jobs, but will eventually move them out of the north into the EU.

You're totally missing the point, the UK fell from 2nd to 8th when it should have fell to 15th or 20th, the EU propped it up. Over and over again the EU put the whole weight of its whole market behind what was best for the UK, allowing the UK to punch above its weight.

The car industry is gone, all japanese plants are gone, the banking industry is gone, the eu headquarters are gone, all and any protection for any industry in the UK is gone, funding for universities is gone.

People will still be able to work, but the UK has no global say anymore.

Did you know that the US promised Ireland that under a no deal brexit, the US will not do a trade deal with the UK until they put in place a backstop that at the minimum applies to the north of Ireland, and they will respect the good friday agreement.

Let that sink in. The US wants Ireland to okay the terms and conditions of any trade deal they will do with the UK. This kind of ability is what stopped the UK slipping from 2nd to 20th and its gone now.

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over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves.

Need to explain how really. It just say it’s so .....please

Like I said, speak to people - especially those from other countries.

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over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves.

Need to explain how really. It just say it’s so .....please

That’s a sweeping generalisation regarding social media and newspapers . The majority of people I know voted to leave on personal circumstances and what’s going on in their neighbourhoods"

That in itself is a generalisation to say the majority of the people you know etc...

Plus who said anything about Brexit voting? I am answering OPs question about hope in Britain.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves.

Need to explain how really. It just say it’s so .....please

That’s a sweeping generalisation regarding social media and newspapers . The majority of people I know voted to leave on personal circumstances and what’s going on in their neighbourhoods

That in itself is a generalisation to say the majority of the people you know etc...

Plus who said anything about Brexit voting? I am answering OPs question about hope in Britain. "

How can it be a sweeping generalisation if I’m saying the majority of people I KNOW . You on the other hand are speaking on behalf of the country ,,, ie people are forming opinions !! How do you know that ?

As for hope and Brexit you are quite right . However some people are making the correlation between the two

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm glad you didn't say Great. Finished, kaput. Best trade deals we can boast of is with the likes of Norway and Lichtenstein

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some real naive tripe in here, some interesting and well thought responses too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves.

Need to explain how really. It just say it’s so .....please

That’s a sweeping generalisation regarding social media and newspapers . The majority of people I know voted to leave on personal circumstances and what’s going on in their neighbourhoods

That in itself is a generalisation to say the majority of the people you know etc...

Plus who said anything about Brexit voting? I am answering OPs question about hope in Britain.

As for hope and Brexit you are quite right . However some people are making the correlation between the two "

Surely you know hundreds of people? That is why your statement is generalising, you clearly have not spoken to them all.

I know people are forming opinions from speaking to them and reading their opinions on threads like this one, and others. I know their opinions are warped by social media, mainstream media, gossip, tabloid press, and a twisted view of history etc.. because I see the one sided views of these sources myself. My point is that we need to believe our own eyes and not automatically believe anything that we are told. I am not saying that the 'nation' is wrong in their views, just that a portion of them on all sides are misinformed, e.g stay/leave campaigners, terrorists, anti-vax, conspiracy theorists, EDL, left wing lunatics blah blah...

Everyone has a right to an opinion, I am just saying those opinions are being manipulated by questionable sources.

And still the Greatest Country in the World!!

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

"If so, what needs changing?"

The the country has a fantastic future and Outlook and always will we have a great country where we enjoy many freedoms and benefits literally two-thirds of the world do not..

Stop thinking of what you haven't got and what you already have..

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves.

Need to explain how really. It just say it’s so .....please

That’s a sweeping generalisation regarding social media and newspapers . The majority of people I know voted to leave on personal circumstances and what’s going on in their neighbourhoods

That in itself is a generalisation to say the majority of the people you know etc...

Plus who said anything about Brexit voting? I am answering OPs question about hope in Britain.

As for hope and Brexit you are quite right . However some people are making the correlation between the two

Surely you know hundreds of people? That is why your statement is generalising, you clearly have not spoken to them all.

Everyone has a right to an opinion, I am just saying those opinions are being manipulated by questionable sources.

And still the Greatest Country in the World!!

I take your point and respect your opinion .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

In the 80s there were a lot of jobs that you didn't need qualifications or licences for just ability and training. I think the more lenghty drawn out process to employment in some of these fields has contributed to a general heaviness. People need more fortitude now than before.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think change needs to start with the individual and be person led!! "
Expand on this and if you have any examples give them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"For people to stop moaning and crack on with the opportunities it will provide.

The people of Britain are too soft, have been molly coddled for too long, expect everything without graft.

If you look at the rest of Europe, the majority have national service, we recently couldn't defend a few fishing boats.

"
How about a work ethic being superseded by a idea of how can we help people enjoy best their time on this earth. Work alongside time for family,self discovery,hobbies,service all without being penalized financially. A world where you work 3 quarters of the year and the rest is yours.

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By *imited 3EditionCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England

Hmm I wasnt aware Indian was a language so to say language at schools will be reconstructed using this is a little hard to believe.

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

Wow I didn't realise this!! "
so why are we in the grip of austerity & society/support networks being disassembled?

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

"I'm hoping that the whole knife crime thing sorts its self out soon. Seems to be spreading like cancer. "

For that we'll need to get the police on the streets again, make them become proactive rather than reactive.

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

"The actual concept of this great country leaving Europe does not bother me . Europe can wax lyrical , beat their chests but the foundations are starting to crumble . France will follow . I’m more concerned about the spineless shite we have currently sitting on their fat cat salaries in parliament . I hate to say it but we would not be in this position with a Thatcher type figure at the helm !!! "

Thatcher was the start of the mess we're all in!!

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Thatcher was the start of the mess we're all in!!"

Thatcher got us out of the shit we were in when she took the helm .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We're a massive economy even ourside of the EU. The EU is facing a lot worse problems than the UK is in nerly every area so if you think we're fucked out we're equally fucked in

Umm massive economy in what?

Considering banking is moving out of the UK, Cars are moving out, what industry are you talking about?

Yeah except its not were the 5th largest economy in the world.

"Finance" isnt moving out simply because you are not going to pursaude all the people who wish to live in london to go live in frankfurt.

The Panasonic headquarters move into main land europe a massive company was 20 jobs that moved...

The uk has a massive service industry world leaders in engineering, military technology aerospace, nuclear etc.

A couple of factories is a drop in the ocean for our economy.

I mean china's economy is worth around 9 trillion the uk is around 3.

They have 1 billion people we have about 60 million.

Do you see the sense of scale here

India's is less than 3.

Wow I didn't realise this!! so why are we in the grip of austerity & society/support networks being disassembled?"
The whole idea of how a family should work together and build together needs to be reconsidered. A family is potentially a mighty unit with many branches of influence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

England did really well as a sovereign country and it will do it again .... Just we need to rid our current government for one that listens to its people or just let the people decide what's best.

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over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves.

Need to explain how really. It just say it’s so .....please

That’s a sweeping generalisation regarding social media and newspapers . The majority of people I know voted to leave on personal circumstances and what’s going on in their neighbourhoods

That in itself is a generalisation to say the majority of the people you know etc...

Plus who said anything about Brexit voting? I am answering OPs question about hope in Britain.

As for hope and Brexit you are quite right . However some people are making the correlation between the two

Surely you know hundreds of people? That is why your statement is generalising, you clearly have not spoken to them all.

Everyone has a right to an opinion, I am just saying those opinions are being manipulated by questionable sources.

And still the Greatest Country in the World!!

I take your point and respect your opinion .

Thank you, very gracious

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

"England did really well as a sovereign country and it will do it again .... Just we need to rid our current government for one that listens to its people or just let the people decide what's best."

Here's this "England" thing again ..you do you know you live in Great Britain yeh?.....so Wales? We not involved no?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

... I just call it England thats all... I don't say u.k or great Britain.

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

Thatcher was the start of the mess we're all in!!

Thatcher got us out of the shit we were in when she took the helm . "

And she ended her tenure with people having to pay 15%+ interest on their mortgages crippling many families.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

" ... I just call it England thats all... I don't say u.k or great Britain."

It's not just England though is it? What's Wales then, a foreign country?

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Thatcher was the start of the mess we're all in!!

Thatcher got us out of the shit we were in when she took the helm .

And she ended her tenure with people having to pay 15%+ interest on their mortgages crippling many families. "

True , but to be fair pensions and savings had a fantastic return back then , 13 % , so it’s all relative .

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over a year ago

" ... I just call it England thats all... I don't say u.k or great Britain.

It's not just England though is it? What's Wales then, a foreign country?

"
no ... I just use England as a generalisation of this entire country .. including Wales and Scotland ..... I prefer to call it England.

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By *retty womanWoman
over a year ago

Near Bournemouth

Thatcher was the start of the mess we're all in!!

Thatcher got us out of the shit we were in when she took the helm .

And she ended her tenure with people having to pay 15%+ interest on their mortgages crippling many families.

True , but to be fair pensions and savings had a fantastic return back then , 13 % , so it’s all relative . "

That's if you had the money for a decent pension and savings.

She also was the onset of the "I'm better that you" philosophy. Ruined our coal industry, steel industry........

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

" ... I just call it England thats all... I don't say u.k or great Britain.

It's not just England though is it? What's Wales then, a foreign country?

no ... I just use England as a generalisation of this entire country .. including Wales and Scotland ..... I prefer to call it England. "

I give up....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" ... I just call it England thats all... I don't say u.k or great Britain.

It's not just England though is it? What's Wales then, a foreign country?

no ... I just use England as a generalisation of this entire country .. including Wales and Scotland ..... I prefer to call it England.

I give up....

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so can I not use England now?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" ... I just call it England thats all... I don't say u.k or great Britain.

It's not just England though is it? What's Wales then, a foreign country?

no ... I just use England as a generalisation of this entire country .. including Wales and Scotland ..... I prefer to call it England.

I give up....

"
I guess it's up to you to keep that dragon flying!

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

" ... I just call it England thats all... I don't say u.k or great Britain.

It's not just England though is it? What's Wales then, a foreign country?

no ... I just use England as a generalisation of this entire country .. including Wales and Scotland ..... I prefer to call it England.

I give up....

so can I not use England now? "

Use what you like if you think this Isle is "England" then crack on...

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

It's the people that make this country great and gives the UK hope definitely not any government or politicians.

It's the workers, the self employed, businesses etc by going out, working hard, paying taxes and making a descent life for their selves and families despite what the politicians do.

I also feel that if we could have even more hope if we actually leave the EU especially with no deal.

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over a year ago

"Still the Greatest country in the world. Just getting better and better. Knock the social media on the head and look for yourselves. "

This 1000000000%

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over a year ago

"It's the people that make this country great and gives the UK hope definitely not any government or politicians.

It's the workers, the self employed, businesses etc by going out, working hard, paying taxes and making a descent life for their selves and families despite what the politicians do.

I also feel that if we could have even more hope if we actually leave the EU especially with no deal.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"It's the people that make this country great and gives the UK hope definitely not any government or politicians.

It's the workers, the self employed, businesses etc by going out, working hard, paying taxes and making a descent life for their selves and families despite what the politicians do.

I also feel that if we could have even more hope if we actually leave the EU especially with no deal.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

"It's the people that make this country great and gives the UK hope definitely not any government or politicians."

I thought the whole reason for leaving was because the quality of people in the UK had gotten poor due to migration. That is magically not an issue anymore? the people in the UK are of the highest quality all of a sudden?

Unionists in the north of Ireland reccomend everyone who can to get an Irish passport or other EU passport. I don't see how the people will fix it, when they are all making backup plans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You do know that everyone is laughing at the English government I believe Scotland wants to remain in the EU lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's ok, once a corporate tax haven always a corporate tax haven, we'll still have big business here not paying taxes, what more could a country want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope so

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By *nicecoupleXCouple
over a year ago

Hitch

"If so, what needs changing?"

I find people that are good to animals are generally good people.

Therefore make dogs compulsory

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If so, what needs changing?

I find people that are good to animals are generally good people.

Therefore make dogs compulsory

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woof woof

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Thatcher was the start of the mess we're all in!!

Thatcher got us out of the shit we were in when she took the helm .

And she ended her tenure with people having to pay 15%+ interest on their mortgages crippling many families.

True , but to be fair pensions and savings had a fantastic return back then , 13 % , so it’s all relative .

That's if you had the money for a decent pension and savings.

She also was the onset of the "I'm better that you" philosophy. Ruined our coal industry, steel industry........"

Enriched the rich, ruined the working class by killing their jobs & making them an underclass when they couldn't work in the jobs that no longer existed, destroyed the unions & took workers power away, the EU is the ONLY reason we are not on the lowest of wages & longest of hours. She was an appalling human being, Cameron idolises her...that tells you everything you need to know about both of them.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"You do know that everyone is laughing at the English government I believe Scotland wants to remain in the EU lol"

I didn't know we had an "English" government!? It's about time!

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

"You do know that everyone is laughing at the English government I believe Scotland wants to remain in the EU lol

I didn't know we had an "English" government!? It's about time!

Oooo yeh...because the English rule this Isle ..us lowly Celts don't know how to tie our show laces

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

"You do know that everyone is laughing at the English government I believe Scotland wants to remain in the EU lol

I didn't know we had an "English" government!? It's about time!

Oooo yeh...because the English rule this Isle ..us lowly Celts don't know how to tie our show laces

*Shoe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Glory holes are on the up and up it seems ,so maybe we still are the land of hope and glory

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"You do know that everyone is laughing at the English government I believe Scotland wants to remain in the EU lol

I didn't know we had an "English" government!? It's about time!

Oooo yeh...because the English rule this Isle ..us lowly Celts don't know how to tie our show laces

Clearly.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

"You do know that everyone is laughing at the English government I believe Scotland wants to remain in the EU lol

I didn't know we had an "English" government!? It's about time!

Oooo yeh...because the English rule this Isle ..us lowly Celts don't know how to tie our show laces

Clearly. "

Obnoxious how attractive...

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"You do know that everyone is laughing at the English government I believe Scotland wants to remain in the EU lol

I didn't know we had an "English" government!? It's about time!

Oooo yeh...because the English rule this Isle ..us lowly Celts don't know how to tie our show laces

Clearly.

Obnoxious how attractive..."

I guess you could try and be nicer? I know it won't be easy, but all you can do is try.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

"You do know that everyone is laughing at the English government I believe Scotland wants to remain in the EU lol

I didn't know we had an "English" government!? It's about time!

Oooo yeh...because the English rule this Isle ..us lowly Celts don't know how to tie our show laces

Clearly.

Obnoxious how attractive...

I guess you could try and be nicer? I know it won't be easy, but all you can do is try.

Refer to my last statement....but add "very".....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Often, when ppl open their mouths or flex their typing fingers they make themselves look like a knob, just an observation.....

(guilty your honour)

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

"Often, when ppl open their mouths or flex their typing fingers they make themselves look like a knob, just an observation.....

(guilty your honour) "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Often, when ppl open their mouths or flex their typing fingers they make themselves look like a knob, just an observation.....

(guilty your honour)

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"You do know that everyone is laughing at the English government I believe Scotland wants to remain in the EU lol

I didn't know we had an "English" government!? It's about time!

Oooo yeh...because the English rule this Isle ..us lowly Celts don't know how to tie our show laces

Clearly.

Obnoxious how attractive...

I guess you could try and be nicer? I know it won't be easy, but all you can do is try.

Refer to my last statement....but add "I'm"....."

Seems fair.

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Glory holes are on the up and up it seems ,so maybe we still are the land of hope and glory

Land of Hole & Glory...fixed.

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over a year ago

"Glory holes are on the up and up it seems ,so maybe we still are the land of hope and glory

Land of Hole & Glory...fixed."
Very good!

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