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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Is it luck, or effort?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is it luck, or effort?"

To be successful

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If it’s neither; then how are folk successful if it isn’t luck or effort?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Voodoo

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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I think it's more than either of those things but I'm not sure what exactly is it. Effort does pay off but sometimes people don't need to put effort in. I'm not sure how much I believe in luck as well.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think it's more than either of those things but I'm not sure what exactly is it. Effort does pay off but sometimes people don't need to put effort in. I'm not sure how much I believe in luck as well. "

Have you not seen that Linsay Lohan film?!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Is it luck, or effort?

To be successful"

Can be both, depending on how you wantto use the site I suppose

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Bit of both.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is it luck, or effort?

To be successful

Can be both, depending on how you wantto use the site I suppose "

For insta fucks. Duhhhh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it’s neither; then how are folk successful if it isn’t luck or effort? "

I just put pics up and write a decent profile. I don't answer that many messages and I'm not meeting but still get a shitload of messages.

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By *lam rockerMan
over a year ago

Tain

hard work - and a lot of luck! Your message has to be noticed - wheat among the chaff! It's never easy as what works today with a lady/couple doesn't work tomorrow.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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"I think it's more than either of those things but I'm not sure what exactly is it. Effort does pay off but sometimes people don't need to put effort in. I'm not sure how much I believe in luck as well.

Have you not seen that Linsay Lohan film?!"

Just My Luck! With Chris Pine! And McFly! Fuck haha. What a blast from the past. Yeah... still not quite convinced by that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s both I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it's more than either of those things but I'm not sure what exactly is it. Effort does pay off but sometimes people don't need to put effort in. I'm not sure how much I believe in luck as well.

Have you not seen that Linsay Lohan film?!"

Mean girls?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think it's more than either of those things but I'm not sure what exactly is it. Effort does pay off but sometimes people don't need to put effort in. I'm not sure how much I believe in luck as well.

Have you not seen that Linsay Lohan film?!

Just My Luck! With Chris Pine! And McFly! Fuck haha. What a blast from the past. Yeah... still not quite convinced by that."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most women and couples could have a queue around the block at an hours notice with very little effort, the single guys on the other hand have it hard. It takes patience and effort for them and even that is no guarantee.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think it's more than either of those things but I'm not sure what exactly is it. Effort does pay off but sometimes people don't need to put effort in. I'm not sure how much I believe in luck as well.

Have you not seen that Linsay Lohan film?!

Mean girls? "

No but equally as good. Just My Luck!

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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Actually, a wise old man once told me that confidence is part of his reason for success on fab.

And effort in photos.

Maybe luck that people buy in to what someone is trying to sell them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it’s neither; then how are folk successful if it isn’t luck or effort? "

I don't know, I just flipped my hair about a bit and some people seemed to like that.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Is it luck, or effort?

To be successful

Can be both, depending on how you wantto use the site I suppose

For insta fucks. Duhhhh"

Okay, fancy a fuck then wee hen?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it’s neither; then how are folk successful if it isn’t luck or effort? "

I think it's more a combination of both.

I guess it really depends on whose point of view you're looking from.

You can have some who put in lots of effort and yet seem to get nowhere (usually single males), and others who fair better with far less effort (single females).

There have been occasions when after sending out a handful of well thought out messages, that sit there unread or deleted immediately, that one might feel disheartened and that maybe energies might be better spent elsewhere - and then, out of the blue, a message might come in, or even a rather nice positive reply.

So there has to be an element of luck involved for there to be mutual attraction

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Most women and couples could have a queue around the block at an hours notice with very little effort, the single guys on the other hand have it hard. It takes patience and effort for them and even that is no guarantee. "

But if most of that queue you want bouncers for then that's disheartening and discouraging in its own right.

If I hadn't spotted some people very early on who guided me, Fab would have been a failure for me. I would have been scared off by all the demanding demeaning creeps.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Most women and couples could have a queue around the block at an hours notice with very little effort, the single guys on the other hand have it hard. It takes patience and effort for them and even that is no guarantee.

But if most of that queue you want bouncers for then that's disheartening and discouraging in its own right.

If I hadn't spotted some people very early on who guided me, Fab would have been a failure for me. I would have been scared off by all the demanding demeaning creeps. "

I quit twice before sticking it out and becoming more strict with myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Actually, a wise old man once told me that confidence is part of his reason for success on fab.

And effort in photos.

Maybe luck that people buy in to what someone is trying to sell them? "

It may not be luck per se, but you have to have circumstance on your side.

You could develop a great connection with someone but if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, you may never meet. But then that would be fate over luck?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If it’s neither; then how are folk successful if it isn’t luck or effort?

I just put pics up and write a decent profile. I don't answer that many messages and I'm not meeting but still get a shitload of messages. "

Snap

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Is it luck, or effort?"

Depends on if you have a vagina or not.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

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Maybe luck that people buy in to what someone is trying to sell them?

It may not be luck per se, but you have to have circumstance on your side.

You could develop a great connection with someone but if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, you may never meet. But then that would be fate over luck?

"

I'm not sure I believe in fate either. But yes, things have to coincede - desires to meet, locations etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Maybe luck that people buy in to what someone is trying to sell them?

It may not be luck per se, but you have to have circumstance on your side.

You could develop a great connection with someone but if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, you may never meet. But then that would be fate over luck?

I'm not sure I believe in fate either. But yes, things have to coincede - desires to meet, locations etc."

Location is more of a problem than my mug shot, which surprises me. If I was elsewhere in the country though, those I appeal to would probably still be miles away lol

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Both, I think.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I think it's a bit of both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it luck, or effort?"
luck,looks and language the 3 Ls

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By *iss SJWoman
over a year ago

Hull

Bit of both and a couple of brain cells to rub together

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe it depends on Karma

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Bit of both and a couple of brain cells to rub together "

Definitely. A little common sense and ability to question saves a lot of grief!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hard to say abit of both and other things added too i put in a ton of effort with not much success im not lucky at all soo cant be that who knows why i cant get the conversation going maybe it's the beard maybe the pics i have could be that i cant accommodate fact is the more effort you put in the better your results will be ive been on fab for a couple years now (yes i know my current profile says different) and have only recently started getting fabs on my pics and views on my profile occasionally i even get a message you nust gotta put in the time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it ever feels like an effort, or more accurately a chore to be on here then I step back a bit. As for luck, well I reckon that there's a certain element of chance involved in everything. I suppose I would prefer to think of it as serendipitous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Patience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely the answer is different if you’re a male,female or couple?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely the answer is different if you’re a male,female or couple?"

Or hung, average, etc...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you are lucky enough to be present in one of Hatters Tea Theory seminars then all becomes clear

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely the answer is different if you’re a male,female or couple?

Or hung, average, etc..."

Precisely. If nobody fancies you, no matter how hard you work, or how lucky you are, you’re not getting a meet.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Surely the answer is different if you’re a male,female or couple?"

Of course. I thought people would answer depending on what they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely the answer is different if you’re a male,female or couple?

Of course. I thought people would answer depending on what they are."

Unlucky, thats me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surely the answer is different if you’re a male,female or couple?

Of course. I thought people would answer depending on what they are."

We like to think in the abstract

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By *onderstuff73mMan
over a year ago

Brum


"Is it luck, or effort?"

Neither, it’s about location and rejection ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you are lucky enough to be present in one of Hatters Tea Theory seminars then all becomes clear"

the tea theory works

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you are lucky enough to be present in one of Hatters Tea Theory seminars then all becomes clear

the tea theory works "

Of course it does for you, you tartlet

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By *inkysexpotMan
over a year ago

leeds

I'd say it's alot of both

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By *ream3.14159Man
over a year ago

Here & there


"Is it luck, or effort?"

I guess you increase your luck and success by making an effort!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is it luck, or effort?

I guess you increase your luck and success by making an effort!"

ooooooo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t think it’s about effort or luck more about choosing the opportune moment with a well chosen person. Then it’s kind of effortless and it just flows.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have to put the effort in, not everything comes to those wait

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it luck, or effort?"

In my opinion... its more luck than effort. Just been so unlucky recently

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bit of luck and minimal effort from me.

Luck being the men I say yes to finding me online when they are, or coming up in their search.

I'm lazy and I don't like taking pics, so I write a little blurb and put a up a few pics, to lure them in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You have to put the effort in, not everything comes to those wait "

I’m too lazy to put any effort in, I prefer timing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think it’s about effort or luck more about choosing the opportune moment with a well chosen person. Then it’s kind of effortless and it just flows.

"

You have to find that person in the first place and that's partly down to luck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think it’s about effort or luck more about choosing the opportune moment with a well chosen person. Then it’s kind of effortless and it just flows.

You have to find that person in the first place and that's partly down to luck. "

or good ‘research’ while fart-arsing around on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d say a bit of both really, it is effort but the outcome from that effort is good, I hate the word effort as it sounds like it’s a bad thing but I think you get out what you put in, put the maximum effort in and you do get results.

I guess being a couple with a very small window does require more effort than luck.

Danish x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it luck, or effort?"

I reckon its both.

Also having a boner in the right place at the right time.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is it luck, or effort?

I reckon its both.

Also having a boner in the right place at the right time. "

If you’re straight isn’t the right place in a vagina?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You have to put the effort in, not everything comes to those wait

I’m too lazy to put any effort in, I prefer timing "

And that lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it luck, or effort?

I reckon its both.

Also having a boner in the right place at the right time.

If you’re straight isn’t the right place in a vagina?"

Yes it's about being in a woman's area when I'm horny and hoping she messages me.. But that is much easier said than done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bit of both.

Effort in finding somebody and then luck that they actually like you.

Luck that somebody finds you, then effort to make it happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I imagine it is very easy for women to get no strings sex though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I imagine it is very easy for women to get no strings sex though. "

I imagine so. Shame I won’t fuck anyone I have no attraction to. I could be swimming in cum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I imagine it is very easy for women to get no strings sex though.

I imagine so. Shame I won’t fuck anyone I have no attraction to. I could be swimming in cum"

I won't sleep with anyone either.. But its much easier for women in general.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I don't think it's either, although elements of both do come into it, I think (regardless of whether you're a man, woman, couple or TV/TS) that it comes down more to attitude, approach and expectations and to a lesser or greater extent (depending on which of the categories you sit in) a decent profile and pics.

Get those things right and the Fab experience can be an enjoyable one, get them wrong and it won't be.

I also don't like to think of it in terms of being "successful" which makes it sound like prizes are being won, or sales quotas met - more in terms of enjoyment of the site and whether it's met expectations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's about finding people you connect with... building up a rapport and not rushing anything... and if it clicks

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"I imagine it is very easy for women to get no strings sex though.

I imagine so. Shame I won’t fuck anyone I have no attraction to. I could be swimming in cum

I won't sleep with anyone either.. But its much easier for women in general. "

If you choose to see it that way it is - but women face as many problems as men, just different ones - yes they may be able to get a meet easily, but getting a quality meet is another matter.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"I imagine it is very easy for women to get no strings sex though.

I imagine so. Shame I won’t fuck anyone I have no attraction to. I could be swimming in cum

I won't sleep with anyone either.. But its much easier for women in general. "

I think it’s probably easier for women to get chatting but meeting is a whole other thing.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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You can put all the effort you can into fab but if you haven't got a mutual attraction with any potential meets a decent personality/similar personality then maybe then luck comes into play

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it's more than either of those things but I'm not sure what exactly is it. Effort does pay off but sometimes people don't need to put effort in. I'm not sure how much I believe in luck as well.

Have you not seen that Linsay Lohan film?!

Just My Luck! With Chris Pine! And McFly! Fuck haha. What a blast from the past. Yeah... still not quite convinced by that."

That was on Sky yesterday

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think it's more than either of those things but I'm not sure what exactly is it. Effort does pay off but sometimes people don't need to put effort in. I'm not sure how much I believe in luck as well.

Have you not seen that Linsay Lohan film?!

Just My Luck! With Chris Pine! And McFly! Fuck haha. What a blast from the past. Yeah... still not quite convinced by that.

That was on Sky yesterday "

Aw man was it?! I love that film. I’m sure it’s on Netflix, think I need to give it another watch

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By *entakuruMan
over a year ago

Exeter


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Maybe luck that people buy in to what someone is trying to sell them?

It may not be luck per se, but you have to have circumstance on your side.

You could develop a great connection with someone but if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time, you may never meet. But then that would be fate over luck?

I'm not sure I believe in fate either. But yes, things have to coincede - desires to meet, locations etc.

Location is more of a problem than my mug shot, which surprises me. If I was elsewhere in the country though, those I appeal to would probably still be miles away lol "

Definitely looking to be a location thing for me too. Fewer users overall in my area, bigger percentage of 'mature' couples looking for unicorns or a boy toy rather than single or poly people looking to expand their circle of playmates.

Whereas outside my catchment area I've had way more interest via message and the forums, and a couple of meets when I've been elsewhere in the country for work or whatever.

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By *entakuruMan
over a year ago

Exeter


" You can put all the effort you can into fab but if you haven't got a mutual attraction with any potential meets a decent personality/similar personality then maybe then luck comes into play"

The problem is that none of that stuff is worth anything until you meet face to face anyway. I've been on Internet dates where the text was great for the week or so we were interacting online and then when we met, the whole thing was deader than disco. I've been on Internet dates with people where their profile wasn't very interesting and it's hard to tell from the photos if you actually fancy them or not and within five minutes of being in a room together, the energy was positively crackling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bit random I reckon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I definitely think luck comes into it - right place right time etc - as well as a positive attitude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I imagine it is very easy for women to get no strings sex though.

I imagine so. Shame I won’t fuck anyone I have no attraction to. I could be swimming in cum"

Extreme Bukkake?

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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" You can put all the effort you can into fab but if you haven't got a mutual attraction with any potential meets a decent personality/similar personality then maybe then luck comes into play

The problem is that none of that stuff is worth anything until you meet face to face anyway. I've been on Internet dates where the text was great for the week or so we were interacting online and then when we met, the whole thing was deader than disco. I've been on Internet dates with people where their profile wasn't very interesting and it's hard to tell from the photos if you actually fancy them or not and within five minutes of being in a room together, the energy was positively crackling.

"

With the few socials I have had I've got all that from chatting on the forums or pm's, But I get what you're saying, I have also found chatting on cam helps me decide if I want to meet,

Watching their facial reactions and body movements as we talk

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By *rinthiaMan
over a year ago

dundee


"Is it luck, or effort?"

depend if your

male or female

single or a couple

young or old

bi or straight

not an easy question to answer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither its about confidence to get what u want assume the sale

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

I think that it's partially luck, partially effort, as GM said; attitude and managing your expectations comes into it too.

However none of these matter if people simply don't find you attractive.

I know that I say to newbies that effort = results but that's a very shorthanded version of what actually happens and how the site operates. I think that it's something of an intangible mix of a lot of things for most people, however, for a guy it's much easier if you're classically attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends on what someone determines as 'success'. I've always been 100% successful and achieved everything I wanted. It may be partly down to luck but also how I do things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you make your own luck with patience, respect and hard work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think there are loads of different factors. The time and day, who is around, their mood that day, your mood that day. Your approach, your expectations.

To me there is no success here. I think of it like a pub. I come to hang out and if I pull it's a bonus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you’re hot you don’t need either, if you’re average you need both, if you’re unattractive better get yourself a personality.

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

Meh

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"I think you make your own luck with patience, respect and hard work"
I used to work on building sites, but I never got to shag any of the secretaries that worked in the office, I feel that I might have to brush up on my chat up skills

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you’re hot you don’t need either, if you’re average you need both, if you’re unattractive better get yourself a personality. "

Will getting a personality get me laid?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"If you’re hot you don’t need either, if you’re average you need both, if you’re unattractive better get yourself a personality.

Will getting a personality get me laid? "

Absolutely not Doris, but painting your nails in excuisit and random colours might

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you’re hot you don’t need either, if you’re average you need both, if you’re unattractive better get yourself a personality.

Will getting a personality get me laid?

Absolutely not Doris, but painting your nails in excuisit and random colours might "

I don't think even that would work. The cock pic isn't doing well for me.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"If you’re hot you don’t need either, if you’re average you need both, if you’re unattractive better get yourself a personality.

Will getting a personality get me laid?

Absolutely not Doris, but painting your nails in excuisit and random colours might

I don't think even that would work. The cock pic isn't doing well for me. "

You're gonna need a bigger cock missus

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If you’re hot you don’t need either, if you’re average you need both, if you’re unattractive better get yourself a personality.

Will getting a personality get me laid? "

If I had a personality I’d be the full package. I’m just dull

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you’re hot you don’t need either, if you’re average you need both, if you’re unattractive better get yourself a personality.

Will getting a personality get me laid?

If I had a personality I’d be the full package. I’m just dull"

I think everyone has got everything they need, if only they can apply it....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bit of both, i'm putting effort in and not getting far but it's luck of the draw as to whether or not someone is into you really so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody sods law!! I've put the effort in and have made a few really good friends. It all seems to be happening now I'm leaving the Country...

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

A little effort maybe, sometimes ...

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By *orbidden eastMan
over a year ago

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"Most women and couples could have a queue around the block at an hours notice with very little effort, the single guys on the other hand have it hard. It takes patience and effort for them and even that is no guarantee. "

Tell me about it. it’s just nature in here saying that for men in general on here it’s hard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A little effort maybe, sometimes ... "

The only effort you do is put up with me...

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"A little effort maybe, sometimes ...

The only effort you do is put up with me... "

Omg that is so true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's what it is ,kinda depends what you want from it as to whether you get success using it

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