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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I am not sure how common it is here in the uk but in sweden they are obsessed with it, one thing I dont agree on what some do and that is not to say to a child what gender they are, instead of saying he or she especially in kindergartens they like to use the phrase kid instead of who they are, whats your view, doesnt it make them confused of who they are?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't see the problem in recognising and celebrating some of the tiny differences between male and female.

However, on the whole, the older I get, more people I talk to.. I'm finding there aren't that many differences to celebrate, bar some flaps of skin.

So I'm pro genderless society as a whole.

If it gives men and women an equal start and equal opportunity.

Provided we can keep our own toilets, I'm happy. No women should have to put up with listening to me like out a turtles head. Not sure I want to hear them either.. it'd ruin my magical view of the fairer species.. one I probably shouldn't hold.

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38

Thinking in terms of being genderless is a new concept for me.

I am all for giving everyone an equal start in life but treating kids as genderless doesn't feel right to me.

I have a grandon and a grandaughter and in talking to them it is natural to call them a good boy or girl. When and if they showed signs of being 'different '

Then I think I'd address the situation.

If we had to use different toilets then that would mean taking on being female or male.

As I say food for thought.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thinking in terms of being genderless is a new concept for me.

I am all for giving everyone an equal start in life but treating kids as genderless doesn't feel right to me.

I have a grandon and a grandaughter and in talking to them it is natural to call them a good boy or girl. When and if they showed signs of being 'different '

Then I think I'd address the situation.

If we had to use different toilets then that would mean taking on being female or male.

As I say food for thought.

"

tough isn't it. in theory I'm fine with most of it. in practice, I want to be a man

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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I think society now instils confusion in everyone. We are doing it to the most vulnerable and that’s children. If we had a society that was accepting of differences then that can be supported at the right time for the person, we perhaps wouldn’t feel a need to impose these things from birth.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

I'm a great believer in equality and always have been which also means, as far as I'm concerned, there's no issue with being male or female. There is also no issue with someone feeling they were born into the wrong gender taking steps later in life to make the changes that they feel are right for them. We are not genderless and that's ok.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t know where I stand with this all, when a baby is born it is born with either male or female parts, thus defining what sex they are, I think children should be allowed to grow and when they reach a certain age if they feel they are a different sex then they should be allowed to explore it, I don’t feel babies/toddlers/very young children are at a stage in their life where they really understand, for example when I was five upwards to about the age of 14 ish I was very much a tomboy, would I now be deemed in todays society wanting to identify as a male?

Of course there are some children out there that do feel differently about which sex they are and this has been going on since time began but I don’t think this issues should be forced upon, I was reading somewhere the other week that an ambulance service somewhere in the country has stopped saying sir or madam and to be this just seemed crazy, if I have said what my name is (generally they ask if Mr and Mrs) they would know what gender I am.

But that’s just my opinion, everyone is different the way they see things, oh and the genderless toilet thing? I was reading the paper the other day and there is a theatre in soho that has got gender neutral toilets and some parents were disgusted that there was men taking a wee in the urinals as young kids were walking in, I don’t mind about this kids of loos but still have is so it’s a private affair, I personally don’t mind seeing a penis but I don’t think it’s right for young kids.

Danish x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am not sure how common it is here in the uk but in sweden they are obsessed with it, one thing I dont agree on what some do and that is not to say to a child what gender they are, instead of saying he or she especially in kindergartens they like to use the phrase kid instead of who they are, whats your view, doesnt it make them confused of who they are?"
it's beyond comprehension only humans could do this to themselves

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

It takes more than genitals to define gender.

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By *nabelle21Woman
over a year ago

B38


"Thinking in terms of being genderless is a new concept for me.

I am all for giving everyone an equal start in life but treating kids as genderless doesn't feel right to me.

I have a grandon and a grandaughter and in talking to them it is natural to call them a good boy or girl. When and if they showed signs of being 'different '

Then I think I'd address the situation.

If we had to use different toilets then that would mean taking on being female or male.

As I say food for thought.

tough isn't it. in theory I'm fine with most of it. in practice, I want to be a man "

It is tough because in an ideal world consideration should be given to al.

I agree with what babs has said.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I read the soho theatre toilet article......

It interested me that MEN and WOMEN were put out that women and girls would be subjected to the sight of men's pissing knobs.... but no one gave thought to how horrified most men would be to have kids and embarrassed females walking by.

Some men only like to wiggle it for the willing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is an interesting question, but in reality it feels a bit like using a sledgehammer to break a nut.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont think there is anything wrong with accepting the difference between sexes. We aren't all the same and nor should we be. We shouldn't be ashamed to be called either a man or a woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s all ok having a gender less society but I don’t thing people can make up there choice of preferred gender till they reach there mid teens or beyond, kids in early teens havecvert mixed up mind (some) and if they feel at that age they want to be a trans gender then it’s ok but in another few years when left school and in the open world will they feel the same then ? Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t know where I stand with this all, when a baby is born it is born with either male or female parts, thus defining what sex they are, I think children should be allowed to grow and when they reach a certain age if they feel they are a different sex then they should be allowed to explore it, I don’t feel babies/toddlers/very young children are at a stage in their life where they really understand, for example when I was five upwards to about the age of 14 ish I was very much a tomboy, would I now be deemed in todays society wanting to identify as a male?

Of course there are some children out there that do feel differently about which sex they are and this has been going on since time began but I don’t think this issues should be forced upon, I was reading somewhere the other week that an ambulance service somewhere in the country has stopped saying sir or madam and to be this just seemed crazy, if I have said what my name is (generally they ask if Mr and Mrs) they would know what gender I am.

But that’s just my opinion, everyone is different the way they see things, oh and the genderless toilet thing? I was reading the paper the other day and there is a theatre in soho that has got gender neutral toilets and some parents were disgusted that there was men taking a wee in the urinals as young kids were walking in, I don’t mind about this kids of loos but still have is so it’s a private affair, I personally don’t mind seeing a penis but I don’t think it’s right for young kids.

Danish x "

As far as ambulance service goes...

Since trying whole Cixi thing..

I've been acutely and painfully aware of the language I use when I'm talking people.

I was shown great kindness by a few people on Fab, they helped me explore that side of me, with no pressure, no judgement and shared their home, drink, lives and things with me. They were all TV/TS, yet preferred to be referred to as female.

Initially I found it a bit tricky, a bit awkward. After catching myself make the odd mistake, after being clear with my hosts, that I might. Not being teased about it, when I did. Made me WANT to treat them EXACTLY how they'd be prefer to be referred to.

So now when I write on here, I tend to refer in a genderless way as best I can. If I'm being specific, it's usually about myself and how I feel, not others. I've starting doing it in normal conversation, no matter who I'm talking to, or what about.

I like improving my use of the ever evolving English language though. It doesn't take a lot of extra effort to be inclusive.

Surely in a medical emergency that shit flies out the window though? A Paramedic can be forgiven for calling you Sir whilst he's trying to stop you from bleeding out over a split banjo string!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t know where I stand with this all, when a baby is born it is born with either male or female parts, thus defining what sex they are, I think children should be allowed to grow and when they reach a certain age if they feel they are a different sex then they should be allowed to explore it, I don’t feel babies/toddlers/very young children are at a stage in their life where they really understand, for example when I was five upwards to about the age of 14 ish I was very much a tomboy, would I now be deemed in todays society wanting to identify as a male?

Of course there are some children out there that do feel differently about which sex they are and this has been going on since time began but I don’t think this issues should be forced upon, I was reading somewhere the other week that an ambulance service somewhere in the country has stopped saying sir or madam and to be this just seemed crazy, if I have said what my name is (generally they ask if Mr and Mrs) they would know what gender I am.

But that’s just my opinion, everyone is different the way they see things, oh and the genderless toilet thing? I was reading the paper the other day and there is a theatre in soho that has got gender neutral toilets and some parents were disgusted that there was men taking a wee in the urinals as young kids were walking in, I don’t mind about this kids of loos but still have is so it’s a private affair, I personally don’t mind seeing a penis but I don’t think it’s right for young kids.

Danish x

As far as ambulance service goes...

Since trying whole Cixi thing..

I've been acutely and painfully aware of the language I use when I'm talking people.

I was shown great kindness by a few people on Fab, they helped me explore that side of me, with no pressure, no judgement and shared their home, drink, lives and things with me. They were all TV/TS, yet preferred to be referred to as female.

Initially I found it a bit tricky, a bit awkward. After catching myself make the odd mistake, after being clear with my hosts, that I might. Not being teased about it, when I did. Made me WANT to treat them EXACTLY how they'd be prefer to be referred to.

So now when I write on here, I tend to refer in a genderless way as best I can. If I'm being specific, it's usually about myself and how I feel, not others. I've starting doing it in normal conversation, no matter who I'm talking to, or what about.

I like improving my use of the ever evolving English language though. It doesn't take a lot of extra effort to be inclusive.

Surely in a medical emergency that shit flies out the window though? A Paramedic can be forgiven for calling you Sir whilst he's trying to stop you from bleeding out over a split banjo string! "

I would like to bloody think so!

We have an a friend of a friend who is male but identifies as a woman in her day to day life but displays as both male and female, I didn’t know any of this when we met her, as it’s one of those ‘taboo’ subjects that you don’t really talk about but as we wasn’t entirely sure (as she also has a male cosplay name) and didn’t know what pronoun to use for her, she was incredibly informative and thanked me for taking the time to ask her and refer to her how she likes to be known, (in the instance of the cosplay she was wearing she said she didn’t mind either way).

Danish x

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

A gender stereotypeless society maybe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t know where I stand with this all, when a baby is born it is born with either male or female parts, thus defining what sex they are, I think children should be allowed to grow and when they reach a certain age if they feel they are a different sex then they should be allowed to explore it, I don’t feel babies/toddlers/very young children are at a stage in their life where they really understand, for example when I was five upwards to about the age of 14 ish I was very much a tomboy, would I now be deemed in todays society wanting to identify as a male?

Of course there are some children out there that do feel differently about which sex they are and this has been going on since time began but I don’t think this issues should be forced upon, I was reading somewhere the other week that an ambulance service somewhere in the country has stopped saying sir or madam and to be this just seemed crazy, if I have said what my name is (generally they ask if Mr and Mrs) they would know what gender I am.

But that’s just my opinion, everyone is different the way they see things, oh and the genderless toilet thing? I was reading the paper the other day and there is a theatre in soho that has got gender neutral toilets and some parents were disgusted that there was men taking a wee in the urinals as young kids were walking in, I don’t mind about this kids of loos but still have is so it’s a private affair, I personally don’t mind seeing a penis but I don’t think it’s right for young kids.

Danish x

As far as ambulance service goes...

Since trying whole Cixi thing..

I've been acutely and painfully aware of the language I use when I'm talking people.

I was shown great kindness by a few people on Fab, they helped me explore that side of me, with no pressure, no judgement and shared their home, drink, lives and things with me. They were all TV/TS, yet preferred to be referred to as female.

Initially I found it a bit tricky, a bit awkward. After catching myself make the odd mistake, after being clear with my hosts, that I might. Not being teased about it, when I did. Made me WANT to treat them EXACTLY how they'd be prefer to be referred to.

So now when I write on here, I tend to refer in a genderless way as best I can. If I'm being specific, it's usually about myself and how I feel, not others. I've starting doing it in normal conversation, no matter who I'm talking to, or what about.

I like improving my use of the ever evolving English language though. It doesn't take a lot of extra effort to be inclusive.

Surely in a medical emergency that shit flies out the window though? A Paramedic can be forgiven for calling you Sir whilst he's trying to stop you from bleeding out over a split banjo string!

I would like to bloody think so!

We have an a friend of a friend who is male but identifies as a woman in her day to day life but displays as both male and female, I didn’t know any of this when we met her, as it’s one of those ‘taboo’ subjects that you don’t really talk about but as we wasn’t entirely sure (as she also has a male cosplay name) and didn’t know what pronoun to use for her, she was incredibly informative and thanked me for taking the time to ask her and refer to her how she likes to be known, (in the instance of the cosplay she was wearing she said she didn’t mind either way).

Danish x"

I can see why you asked I like learning about people. End of x

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t know where I stand with this all, when a baby is born it is born with either male or female parts, thus defining what sex they are, I think children should be allowed to grow and when they reach a certain age if they feel they are a different sex then they should be allowed to explore it, I don’t feel babies/toddlers/very young children are at a stage in their life where they really understand, for example when I was five upwards to about the age of 14 ish I was very much a tomboy, would I now be deemed in todays society wanting to identify as a male?

Of course there are some children out there that do feel differently about which sex they are and this has been going on since time began but I don’t think this issues should be forced upon, I was reading somewhere the other week that an ambulance service somewhere in the country has stopped saying sir or madam and to be this just seemed crazy, if I have said what my name is (generally they ask if Mr and Mrs) they would know what gender I am.

But that’s just my opinion, everyone is different the way they see things, oh and the genderless toilet thing? I was reading the paper the other day and there is a theatre in soho that has got gender neutral toilets and some parents were disgusted that there was men taking a wee in the urinals as young kids were walking in, I don’t mind about this kids of loos but still have is so it’s a private affair, I personally don’t mind seeing a penis but I don’t think it’s right for young kids.

Danish x

As far as ambulance service goes...

Since trying whole Cixi thing..

I've been acutely and painfully aware of the language I use when I'm talking people.

I was shown great kindness by a few people on Fab, they helped me explore that side of me, with no pressure, no judgement and shared their home, drink, lives and things with me. They were all TV/TS, yet preferred to be referred to as female.

Initially I found it a bit tricky, a bit awkward. After catching myself make the odd mistake, after being clear with my hosts, that I might. Not being teased about it, when I did. Made me WANT to treat them EXACTLY how they'd be prefer to be referred to.

So now when I write on here, I tend to refer in a genderless way as best I can. If I'm being specific, it's usually about myself and how I feel, not others. I've starting doing it in normal conversation, no matter who I'm talking to, or what about.

I like improving my use of the ever evolving English language though. It doesn't take a lot of extra effort to be inclusive.

Surely in a medical emergency that shit flies out the window though? A Paramedic can be forgiven for calling you Sir whilst he's trying to stop you from bleeding out over a split banjo string!

I would like to bloody think so!

We have an a friend of a friend who is male but identifies as a woman in her day to day life but displays as both male and female, I didn’t know any of this when we met her, as it’s one of those ‘taboo’ subjects that you don’t really talk about but as we wasn’t entirely sure (as she also has a male cosplay name) and didn’t know what pronoun to use for her, she was incredibly informative and thanked me for taking the time to ask her and refer to her how she likes to be known, (in the instance of the cosplay she was wearing she said she didn’t mind either way).

Danish x

I can see why you asked I like learning about people. End of x"

Exactly. It's much simpler to ask and respect the answer, rather than have what the OP suggests, imposed on everybody.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don't see the problem in recognising and celebrating some of the tiny differences between male and female.

However, on the whole, the older I get, more people I talk to.. I'm finding there aren't that many differences to celebrate, bar some flaps of skin.

So I'm pro genderless society as a whole.

If it gives men and women an equal start and equal opportunity.

Provided we can keep our own toilets, I'm happy. No women should have to put up with listening to me like out a turtles head. Not sure I want to hear them either.. it'd ruin my magical view of the fairer species.. one I probably shouldn't hold.

"
That is right. I am also for equal rights and to say the right gender of who they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a great believer in equality and always have been which also means, as far as I'm concerned, there's no issue with being male or female. There is also no issue with someone feeling they were born into the wrong gender taking steps later in life to make the changes that they feel are right for them. We are not genderless and that's ok."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My boys are boys the have blue not pink they fight and compete as all boys should

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over a year ago

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Im female. A woman. I feel like a woman I like being a woman. I dont want some genderless title bestowed upon me. Im all for anyone being identified or addressed as they wish. But it should be done on an individual basis

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Im female. A woman. I feel like a woman I like being a woman. I dont want some genderless title bestowed upon me. Im all for anyone being identified or addressed as they wish. But it should be done on an individual basis"

I’m a man , a cis man and anyone who wants me to be genderless can fuck right off . Same foes for my wife who is perfectly happy as a cis woman . I have 3 sons , all boys / men and happy to be and 2 daughters who are very happy women .

And this is the same with all our friends and family except for one who has a daughter who wants to be identified as a man . She is 13 and has five brothers all older than her and four still live at home . So out of about 100 friends and family ther is one who would identify as not being as being the gender her sexual organs define her as .

So if that’s societies norm , the whole gendeless identity is hardly something to get all in a ‘tis about really .

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"I'm a great believer in equality and always have been which also means, as far as I'm concerned, there's no issue with being male or female. There is also no issue with someone feeling they were born into the wrong gender taking steps later in life to make the changes that they feel are right for them. We are not genderless and that's ok."

I am born a man and although my emotion and desire are feminine, I have accepted and proud of those facts.

Although I crossdress to feel complete, I don't mind being called he or monsieur or go into the male toilet and not feel scared because I can still fight and compete as other men do.

This gender issue is spiralling out of control.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Im female. A woman. I feel like a woman I like being a woman. I dont want some genderless title bestowed upon me. Im all for anyone being identified or addressed as they wish. But it should be done on an individual basis

I’m a man , a cis man and anyone who wants me to be genderless can fuck right off . Same foes for my wife who is perfectly happy as a cis woman . I have 3 sons , all boys / men and happy to be and 2 daughters who are very happy women .

And this is the same with all our friends and family except for one who has a daughter who wants to be identified as a man . She is 13 and has five brothers all older than her and four still live at home . So out of about 100 friends and family ther is one who would identify as not being as being the gender her sexual organs define her as .

So if that’s societies norm , the whole gendeless identity is hardly something to get all in a ‘tis about really . "
out of everyone i know i only know two people who identify as the opposite sex and one of them introduced themselves to me by the name they wish to be called so ive always addressed them by there name without refering to them as he she or them

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I prefer to recognise someone for their uniqueness, rather than a group label. I'd love to see greater levels of people who don't behave according to pressure to conform but through desire

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

oh when i say everyone i know i mean in the real world i was an active member of tvchix for many years and took everyone i met on an individual basis

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London


"Im female. A woman. I feel like a woman I like being a woman. I dont want some genderless title bestowed upon me. Im all for anyone being identified or addressed as they wish. But it should be done on an individual basis

I’m a man , a cis man and anyone who wants me to be genderless can fuck right off . Same foes for my wife who is perfectly happy as a cis woman . I have 3 sons , all boys / men and happy to be and 2 daughters who are very happy women .

And this is the same with all our friends and family except for one who has a daughter who wants to be identified as a man . She is 13 and has five brothers all older than her and four still live at home . So out of about 100 friends and family ther is one who would identify as not being as being the gender her sexual organs define her as .

So if that’s societies norm , the whole gendeless identity is hardly something to get all in a ‘tis about really . "

No one is saying you have to be genderless. No one is saying there is anything wrong with being cis.

But you've given an example yourself of someone who would benefit from understanding and openness about gender. That isn't 'getting in a tis' about it. That's being open minded. If anyone gets in a tis it's right wingers like yourself who freak out about anything that isn't the traditional status quo.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Im female. A woman. I feel like a woman I like being a woman. I dont want some genderless title bestowed upon me. Im all for anyone being identified or addressed as they wish. But it should be done on an individual basis

I’m a man , a cis man and anyone who wants me to be genderless can fuck right off . Same foes for my wife who is perfectly happy as a cis woman . I have 3 sons , all boys / men and happy to be and 2 daughters who are very happy women .

And this is the same with all our friends and family except for one who has a daughter who wants to be identified as a man . She is 13 and has five brothers all older than her and four still live at home . So out of about 100 friends and family ther is one who would identify as not being as being the gender her sexual organs define her as .

So if that’s societies norm , the whole gendeless identity is hardly something to get all in a ‘tis about really .

No one is saying you have to be genderless. No one is saying there is anything wrong with being cis.

But you've given an example yourself of someone who would benefit from understanding and openness about gender. That isn't 'getting in a tis' about it. That's being open minded. If anyone gets in a tis it's right wingers like yourself who freak out about anything that isn't the traditional status quo. "

You love me right ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am not sure how common it is here in the uk but in sweden they are obsessed with it, one thing I dont agree on what some do and that is not to say to a child what gender they are, instead of saying he or she especially in kindergartens they like to use the phrase kid instead of who they are, whats your view, doesnt it make them confused of who they are?"

So what happens woth health and safety laws regarding manual handling?

There are different standards for men and women do the standards for men drop to the level of women (fucking most logistical activities) or do womens get raised to the standard of men resulting in physical injury?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Interesting points everyone

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Just let anyone be what they want . I am Male. But I couldnt give a witches titty if a friend of mine ascribed themselves as a man, woman , genderless , sapio sexual , non binary or a fuckin teapot . As long as they are kind , respectful and curtious to me I dont care.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boys will be boys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im female. A woman. I feel like a woman I like being a woman. I dont want some genderless title bestowed upon me. Im all for anyone being identified or addressed as they wish. But it should be done on an individual basis

I’m a man , a cis man and anyone who wants me to be genderless can fuck right off . Same foes for my wife who is perfectly happy as a cis woman . I have 3 sons , all boys / men and happy to be and 2 daughters who are very happy women .

And this is the same with all our friends and family except for one who has a daughter who wants to be identified as a man . She is 13 and has five brothers all older than her and four still live at home . So out of about 100 friends and family ther is one who would identify as not being as being the gender her sexual organs define her as .

So if that’s societies norm , the whole gendeless identity is hardly something to get all in a ‘tis about really .

No one is saying you have to be genderless. No one is saying there is anything wrong with being cis.

But you've given an example yourself of someone who would benefit from understanding and openness about gender. That isn't 'getting in a tis' about it. That's being open minded. If anyone gets in a tis it's right wingers like yourself who freak out about anything that isn't the traditional status quo. "

So let’s get this right. You don’t think people should be stereotyped because of some label that’s bestowed upon them?

You then go on to say “right wingers like yourself”, thereby bestowing a label and attribute what you consider stereotypical behaviour of them.

I love the irony.

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over a year ago

My mum's cousin is 12 and has decided to become a boy. The teachers encourage it.

I am really glad this is happening to your society.

As the caliphate surrounds us

I will just eat my popcorn and jump ship before Britain sinks.

Schools are like zoos

Terrorism is now a fact of life (sadiq khan)

Everyone is gender confused

The gates are open

Labour party communism

No free speech

No right to defend yourself

Don't come crying if you get randomly attacked in the street!

You voted for labour! Sleep in the bed you made for yourselves!

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

We do have a problem with gender stereotyping.

The mindset that creates pre-conceived ideas about someone’s current or future role in society based on their gender.

I’m all for allowing children to grow up to be their natural selves, without the constant unconcious bias pushing them into pink or blue pigeon-holes.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"We do have a problem with gender stereotyping.

The mindset that creates pre-conceived ideas about someone’s current or future role in society based on their gender.

I’m all for allowing children to grow up to be their natural selves, without the constant unconcious bias pushing them into pink or blue pigeon-holes."

I agree.

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By *irthandgirthMan
over a year ago

Camberley occasionally doncaster


"We do have a problem with gender stereotyping.

The mindset that creates pre-conceived ideas about someone’s current or future role in society based on their gender.

I’m all for allowing children to grow up to be their natural selves, without the constant unconcious bias pushing them into pink or blue pigeon-holes."

I cannot agree that we have a problem with "gender stereotyping"

Binary gender was the norm until very recently (I am taking sexuality out of this argument).

It is only in the last few years that all this extra terminology has come in, and it keeps being redefined, seemingly on a weekly basis. The LGB acronym quickly acquired a T, then a Q, then an A, and so on until it settled on the +. The non binary community are in the process of identifying and labelling themselves into ever smaller pigeon holes. If they aren't sure how they identify, how the hell is a poor CIS male such as myself supposed to cope?

Trying to force ideas of gender neutrality onto children is wrong. If you let children just be they will gravitate to where they are happy.

As a society we are currently in a state of flux regarding gender. It is moving way faster than the majority of society is comfortable with. Hopefully at some point it will settle down and we can all just be happy with each other being who they want.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"Im female. A woman. I feel like a woman I like being a woman. I dont want some genderless title bestowed upon me. Im all for anyone being identified or addressed as they wish. But it should be done on an individual basis

I’m a man , a cis man and anyone who wants me to be genderless can fuck right off . Same foes for my wife who is perfectly happy as a cis woman . I have 3 sons , all boys / men and happy to be and 2 daughters who are very happy women .

And this is the same with all our friends and family except for one who has a daughter who wants to be identified as a man . She is 13 and has five brothers all older than her and four still live at home . So out of about 100 friends and family ther is one who would identify as not being as being the gender her sexual organs define her as .

So if that’s societies norm , the whole gendeless identity is hardly something to get all in a ‘tis about really .

No one is saying you have to be genderless. No one is saying there is anything wrong with being cis.

But you've given an example yourself of someone who would benefit from understanding and openness about gender. That isn't 'getting in a tis' about it. That's being open minded. If anyone gets in a tis it's right wingers like yourself who freak out about anything that isn't the traditional status quo.

So let’s get this right. You don’t think people should be stereotyped because of some label that’s bestowed upon them?

You then go on to say “right wingers like yourself”, thereby bestowing a label and attribute what you consider stereotypical behaviour of them.

I love the irony. "

I like that observation too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It takes more than genitals to define gender."

Bollox....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We do have a problem with gender stereotyping.

The mindset that creates pre-conceived ideas about someone’s current or future role in society based on their gender.

I’m all for allowing children to grow up to be their natural selves, without the constant unconcious bias pushing them into pink or blue pigeon-holes.

I cannot agree that we have a problem with "gender stereotyping"

Binary gender was the norm until very recently (I am taking sexuality out of this argument).

It is only in the last few years that all this extra terminology has come in, and it keeps being redefined, seemingly on a weekly basis. The LGB acronym quickly acquired a T, then a Q, then an A, and so on until it settled on the +. The non binary community are in the process of identifying and labelling themselves into ever smaller pigeon holes. If they aren't sure how they identify, how the hell is a poor CIS male such as myself supposed to cope?

Trying to force ideas of gender neutrality onto children is wrong. If you let children just be they will gravitate to where they are happy.

As a society we are currently in a state of flux regarding gender. It is moving way faster than the majority of society is comfortable with. Hopefully at some point it will settle down and we can all just be happy with each other being who they want."

Completely agree with your second last paragraph.

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over a year ago

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