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Do soaps make murder 'normal'?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Seems like whenever someone in a soap doesn't like a person, they just murder them. Like a computer game. Get rid.

Is this making people accept murder as something 'normal'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, absolutely not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can honestly say that I haven't watched a soap in years. They polarise life into a small community and definitely make death a day to day occurrence.

With the advent of box sets are they trying to hang on to an audience with more sophisticated tastes?

I suppose the moral argument is if the characters who commit murder are brought to justice? Overall though it's whatever they think gets an audience. Murder sells I suppose?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I think I s amazing how many criminal masterminds there are in soaps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think I s amazing how many criminal masterminds there are in soaps"

Even more amazing is that every one lives and works on the same street, and you never hear any one talking about last nights tv

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it's not been the same since Brookside went

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By *inkySeeKinkyDoWoman
over a year ago

'tween PontyCarlo & CasVegas in West Yorks


"it's not been the same since Brookside went "

Aye, cos nobody ever got murdered in THAT did they

I am still traumatised to this day about Damon, and always "joking" to potential husbands about Trevor Jordaching them if they put a foot wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suppose soap producers see their product as a reflection of everyday life.

Murder is a part of everyday life now, sadly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it's not been the same since Brookside went

Aye, cos nobody ever got murdered in THAT did they

I am still traumatised to this day about Damon, and always "joking" to potential husbands about Trevor Jordaching them if they put a foot wrong "

I remember being genuinely scared by Tommy McArdle

He was a much better soap villain than 'Sssssizzler'

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Soaps are written in a dramatic shorthand..to express frustrated anger throw all the cheap crockery off the shelves.. unfortunately sometimes it spills out into reality

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Seems like whenever someone in a soap doesn't like a person, they just murder them. Like a computer game. Get rid.

Is this making people accept murder as something 'normal'?"

Not for people who have no inclination to hurt people no

I think the problem with some soaps is, they get rid of one person who is murdering people and replace them with another who does the same. Obviously rubbish script writers who can't think of different story lines.

Get rid of them I say ( but don't murder them obviously )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is anyone still alive in Hollyoaks?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, stupidity in people that watch them can though... Along with mistrust, cheating, lying etc...

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


"Is anyone still alive in Hollyoaks?

"

Three I think, although they are about to bumped off be by the looks of it.

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By *picknspanMan
over a year ago

North West Leeds

If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Blimey

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

No more so than crime shows do, or war films, or any other drama that involves murder for that matter, Shakespeare is full of it but that's not held up to scrutiny - they're dramas, they dramatise things and take an element of reality and exaggerate it for dramatic effect.

I don't think any one in their right mind takes it as anything more than that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do soaps make murder 'normal'?

No more than the news does.

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

I'm not a soap watcher, so wouldn't know wtf was going on....but I do watch CBS reality alot......I know how to "do the deed" and "get rid of evidence" very professionally now....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not a soap watcher, so wouldn't know wtf was going on....but I do watch CBS reality alot......I know how to "do the deed" and "get rid of evidence" very professionally now.... "

Alan did officer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not a soap watcher, so wouldn't know wtf was going on....but I do watch CBS reality alot......I know how to "do the deed" and "get rid of evidence" very professionally now....

Alan did officer "

Alan did it officer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about Midsomer Murders, Endeavour, Lewis, Morse, Wite in the Blood? There’s a murder every episode in them, sometimes multiples. Nah murder has always drawn a large Tv following. The soaps don’t have the monopoly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

does seem to happen a lot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The amount of murders in Hollyoaks is ridiculous.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend


"Is anyone still alive in Hollyoaks?

"
they've all moved to midsomer

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


"I'm not a soap watcher, so wouldn't know wtf was going on....but I do watch CBS reality alot......I know how to "do the deed" and "get rid of evidence" very professionally now....

Alan did officer

Alan did it officer "

You've let everyone know my defence! I'm doooooooomed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

"

Bit extreme!!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

"

Yet they do manage to bring matters in to the public's general conversation. Knife crime, drugs, sexual assaults if both sexes, transgender issues etc.

You might think yourself exceptionally high brow for not watching them (I don't either to be honest unless I can't find the remote or am forced to by family and friends ) but I am enlightened enough to understand their place in educating or bringing these matters to the masses.

And your comment about needing counselling is particulate abhorrent

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By *picknspanMan
over a year ago

North West Leeds


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Bit extreme!! "

Thank god for that!

For a moment I thought I had become liberal, lily livered and no longer saying things exactly as they are!!

If you want the longer version (the question is rhetoric) Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

If you really have 4-6 hours a week spare to watch Eastenders, Coronation street and whatever others are still being thrown on to the screen then you really need to have a chat with yourself. Surely you could be doing something more worth while?

And...with that enlightening thought, I have realised that I have wasted far too much time discussing such a banal and pointless issue. I should be using my own time more constructively than writing on a forum that only fuels and fires up other deluded people.

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By *picknspanMan
over a year ago

North West Leeds


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Yet they do manage to bring matters in to the public's general conversation. Knife crime, drugs, sexual assaults if both sexes, transgender issues etc.

You might think yourself exceptionally high brow for not watching them (I don't either to be honest unless I can't find the remote or am forced to by family and friends ) but I am enlightened enough to understand their place in educating or bringing these matters to the masses.

And your comment about needing counselling is particulate abhorrent "

I like the word 'abhorent'

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Yet they do manage to bring matters in to the public's general conversation. Knife crime, drugs, sexual assaults if both sexes, transgender issues etc.

You might think yourself exceptionally high brow for not watching them (I don't either to be honest unless I can't find the remote or am forced to by family and friends ) but I am enlightened enough to understand their place in educating or bringing these matters to the masses.

And your comment about needing counselling is particulate abhorrent

I like the word 'abhorent' "

It's a good word

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Yet they do manage to bring matters in to the public's general conversation. Knife crime, drugs, sexual assaults if both sexes, transgender issues etc.

You might think yourself exceptionally high brow for not watching them (I don't either to be honest unless I can't find the remote or am forced to by family and friends ) but I am enlightened enough to understand their place in educating or bringing these matters to the masses.

And your comment about needing counselling is particulate abhorrent

I like the word 'abhorent'

It's a good word "

Particulate is also a good word but slightly out of context here. I obviously meant particularly

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Bit extreme!!

Thank god for that!

For a moment I thought I had become liberal, lily livered and no longer saying things exactly as they are!!

If you want the longer version (the question is rhetoric) Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

If you really have 4-6 hours a week spare to watch Eastenders, Coronation street and whatever others are still being thrown on to the screen then you really need to have a chat with yourself. Surely you could be doing something more worth while?

And...with that enlightening thought, I have realised that I have wasted far too much time discussing such a banal and pointless issue. I should be using my own time more constructively than writing on a forum that only fuels and fires up other deluded people.

"

Fuck me you think a lot of yourself don't you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My personal opinion I think it’s more computer games now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im highly suspicious of my Imperial Leather.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Bit extreme!!

Thank god for that!

For a moment I thought I had become liberal, lily livered and no longer saying things exactly as they are!!

If you want the longer version (the question is rhetoric) Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

If you really have 4-6 hours a week spare to watch Eastenders, Coronation street and whatever others are still being thrown on to the screen then you really need to have a chat with yourself. Surely you could be doing something more worth while?

And...with that enlightening thought, I have realised that I have wasted far too much time discussing such a banal and pointless issue. I should be using my own time more constructively than writing on a forum that only fuels and fires up other deluded people.

"

Not quite sure who's pissed on your chips - but I'm one of those people that regularly watches and enjoys a variety of TV, including probably 3 hours a week watching Corrie - do I need to "have a chat with myself"? Does watching it disrupt my life in any way? Does it impact you to the point you have to express such a vitriolic and confrontational view of not only my intelligence but that of millions of other perfectly normal, well balanced people who enjoy soaps, or for that matter any other programme you don't happen to like?

The answer to all those questions is of course no.

Evie summed it up perfectly when she highlighted the good that soaps do by bringing important issues to the fore - things that do make you think and get people discussing those issues and in some cases actually help those that have been through them.

Yes soaps can be ridiculous and trite and an exaggeration of reality, but you could find an angle to say that about pretty much any drama ever made, including the works of Shakespeare that I mentioned earlier.

It's entertainment plain and simple, the kind of entertainment that has been happening in one form or another for centuries going right back to the Ancient Greeks and beyond.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is anyone still alive in Hollyoaks?

"

I keep catching Hollyoaks inbetween other things and all they seem to do is murder each other. Or shout and argue all the time.

Is that normal these days. The people I know don't argue. They debate and sort it out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Im highly suspicious of my Imperial Leather. "

What did it do?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Bit extreme!!

Thank god for that!

For a moment I thought I had become liberal, lily livered and no longer saying things exactly as they are!!

If you want the longer version (the question is rhetoric) Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

If you really have 4-6 hours a week spare to watch Eastenders, Coronation street and whatever others are still being thrown on to the screen then you really need to have a chat with yourself. Surely you could be doing something more worth while?

And...with that enlightening thought, I have realised that I have wasted far too much time discussing such a banal and pointless issue. I should be using my own time more constructively than writing on a forum that only fuels and fires up other deluded people.

Not quite sure who's pissed on your chips - but I'm one of those people that regularly watches and enjoys a variety of TV, including probably 3 hours a week watching Corrie - do I need to "have a chat with myself"? Does watching it disrupt my life in any way? Does it impact you to the point you have to express such a vitriolic and confrontational view of not only my intelligence but that of millions of other perfectly normal, well balanced people who enjoy soaps, or for that matter any other programme you don't happen to like?

The answer to all those questions is of course no.

Evie summed it up perfectly when she highlighted the good that soaps do by bringing important issues to the fore - things that do make you think and get people discussing those issues and in some cases actually help those that have been through them.

Yes soaps can be ridiculous and trite and an exaggeration of reality, but you could find an angle to say that about pretty much any drama ever made, including the works of Shakespeare that I mentioned earlier.

It's entertainment plain and simple, the kind of entertainment that has been happening in one form or another for centuries going right back to the Ancient Greeks and beyond."

You always say it so well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Bit extreme!!

Thank god for that!

For a moment I thought I had become liberal, lily livered and no longer saying things exactly as they are!!

If you want the longer version (the question is rhetoric) Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

If you really have 4-6 hours a week spare to watch Eastenders, Coronation street and whatever others are still being thrown on to the screen then you really need to have a chat with yourself. Surely you could be doing something more worth while?

And...with that enlightening thought, I have realised that I have wasted far too much time discussing such a banal and pointless issue. I should be using my own time more constructively than writing on a forum that only fuels and fires up other deluded people.

"

I rarely watch TV and haven't seen a soap for decades. Seems you know a lot more about them me? To be such an expert I assume you do actually watch them?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think I s amazing how many criminal masterminds there are in soaps

Even more amazing is that every one lives and works on the same street, and you never hear any one talking about last nights tv "

The bit about Corrie that beggars belief to me was the fact that they live on a small terraced street with a few exceptions, so there's enough space outside each house for a Fiat Panda, perhaps a Focus at best assuming each household had one.

Yet there's never much of a gripe about parking which affects a lot of real life neighbourhoods despite this and the fact that realistically they'd have had at one point in addition to all resident's cars all delivery traffic to Underworld, the Cabin, the Bistro, the Rovers, Dev's shop and takeaway. Plus visitors to the Rovers from outside (the extras basically) a pub with no car park. The odd background worker at Underworld who didn't live in the street. Cars coming and going from Kev and Tyrone's garage, a fucking fleet of taxis from StreetCars and to top it all off Mary's great big fucking MOTORHOME parked in the tiny cobbled street too?

B

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"I think I s amazing how many criminal masterminds there are in soaps

Even more amazing is that every one lives and works on the same street, and you never hear any one talking about last nights tv

The bit about Corrie that beggars belief to me was the fact that they live on a small terraced street with a few exceptions, so there's enough space outside each house for a Fiat Panda, perhaps a Focus at best assuming each household had one.

Yet there's never much of a gripe about parking which affects a lot of real life neighbourhoods despite this and the fact that realistically they'd have had at one point in addition to all resident's cars all delivery traffic to Underworld, the Cabin, the Bistro, the Rovers, Dev's shop and takeaway. Plus visitors to the Rovers from outside (the extras basically) a pub with no car park. The odd background worker at Underworld who didn't live in the street. Cars coming and going from Kev and Tyrone's garage, a fucking fleet of taxis from StreetCars and to top it all off Mary's great big fucking MOTORHOME parked in the tiny cobbled street too?

B"

Very true - and don't get me started on no-one in Eastenders appearing to own a washing machine!!

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By *picknspanMan
over a year ago

North West Leeds


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Bit extreme!!

Thank god for that!

For a moment I thought I had become liberal, lily livered and no longer saying things exactly as they are!!

If you want the longer version (the question is rhetoric) Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

If you really have 4-6 hours a week spare to watch Eastenders, Coronation street and whatever others are still being thrown on to the screen then you really need to have a chat with yourself. Surely you could be doing something more worth while?

And...with that enlightening thought, I have realised that I have wasted far too much time discussing such a banal and pointless issue. I should be using my own time more constructively than writing on a forum that only fuels and fires up other deluded people.

Fuck me you think a lot of yourself don't you! "

I do have a fairly inflated opinion of moi, oui.

If one does not regard ones self highly then how could one expect another to?

In truth I just have opinions that are not wishy washy or plucked from the pages of the Guardian.

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By *picknspanMan
over a year ago

North West Leeds


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Bit extreme!!

Thank god for that!

For a moment I thought I had become liberal, lily livered and no longer saying things exactly as they are!!

If you want the longer version (the question is rhetoric) Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

If you really have 4-6 hours a week spare to watch Eastenders, Coronation street and whatever others are still being thrown on to the screen then you really need to have a chat with yourself. Surely you could be doing something more worth while?

And...with that enlightening thought, I have realised that I have wasted far too much time discussing such a banal and pointless issue. I should be using my own time more constructively than writing on a forum that only fuels and fires up other deluded people.

Not quite sure who's pissed on your chips - but I'm one of those people that regularly watches and enjoys a variety of TV, including probably 3 hours a week watching Corrie - do I need to "have a chat with myself"? Does watching it disrupt my life in any way? Does it impact you to the point you have to express such a vitriolic and confrontational view of not only my intelligence but that of millions of other perfectly normal, well balanced people who enjoy soaps, or for that matter any other programme you don't happen to like?

The answer to all those questions is of course no.

Evie summed it up perfectly when she highlighted the good that soaps do by bringing important issues to the fore - things that do make you think and get people discussing those issues and in some cases actually help those that have been through them.

Yes soaps can be ridiculous and trite and an exaggeration of reality, but you could find an angle to say that about pretty much any drama ever made, including the works of Shakespeare that I mentioned earlier.

It's entertainment plain and simple, the kind of entertainment that has been happening in one form or another for centuries going right back to the Ancient Greeks and beyond."

Your arguement is articulate and considered which for a viewer of Coronation Street does admittedly sound like a contradiction in terms.

Ancient Greeks?

Parthenon Street?

Athensenders?

If you choose to view bubble gum for the eyes of an evening then it is of course your personal choice to do so, but I wish to advocate that the idiot box in the living rooms of most homes should be used in a far more advanced and educational fashion. It is my opinion and I hope that the rational of the forum has not altered, but it is my impression that that is what happens on forums.

If you take my implications seriously then perhaps watching soaps is your calling....

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage


"Seems like whenever someone in a soap doesn't like a person, they just murder them. Like a computer game. Get rid.

Is this making people accept murder as something 'normal'?"

Eh no, it’s fiction, the same as a comic book.. unless you think wanting to be bananaman is normal

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Bit extreme!!

Thank god for that!

For a moment I thought I had become liberal, lily livered and no longer saying things exactly as they are!!

If you want the longer version (the question is rhetoric) Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

If you really have 4-6 hours a week spare to watch Eastenders, Coronation street and whatever others are still being thrown on to the screen then you really need to have a chat with yourself. Surely you could be doing something more worth while?

And...with that enlightening thought, I have realised that I have wasted far too much time discussing such a banal and pointless issue. I should be using my own time more constructively than writing on a forum that only fuels and fires up other deluded people.

Fuck me you think a lot of yourself don't you!

I do have a fairly inflated opinion of moi, oui.

If one does not regard ones self highly then how could one expect another to?

In truth I just have opinions that are not wishy washy or plucked from the pages of the Guardian.

"

What's the Guardian?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Seems like whenever someone in a soap doesn't like a person, they just murder them. Like a computer game. Get rid.

Is this making people accept murder as something 'normal'?

Eh no, it’s fiction, the same as a comic book.. unless you think wanting to be bananaman is normal "

I miss Bananaman.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Bit extreme!!

Thank god for that!

For a moment I thought I had become liberal, lily livered and no longer saying things exactly as they are!!

If you want the longer version (the question is rhetoric) Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

If you really have 4-6 hours a week spare to watch Eastenders, Coronation street and whatever others are still being thrown on to the screen then you really need to have a chat with yourself. Surely you could be doing something more worth while?

And...with that enlightening thought, I have realised that I have wasted far too much time discussing such a banal and pointless issue. I should be using my own time more constructively than writing on a forum that only fuels and fires up other deluded people.

Not quite sure who's pissed on your chips - but I'm one of those people that regularly watches and enjoys a variety of TV, including probably 3 hours a week watching Corrie - do I need to "have a chat with myself"? Does watching it disrupt my life in any way? Does it impact you to the point you have to express such a vitriolic and confrontational view of not only my intelligence but that of millions of other perfectly normal, well balanced people who enjoy soaps, or for that matter any other programme you don't happen to like?

The answer to all those questions is of course no.

Evie summed it up perfectly when she highlighted the good that soaps do by bringing important issues to the fore - things that do make you think and get people discussing those issues and in some cases actually help those that have been through them.

Yes soaps can be ridiculous and trite and an exaggeration of reality, but you could find an angle to say that about pretty much any drama ever made, including the works of Shakespeare that I mentioned earlier.

It's entertainment plain and simple, the kind of entertainment that has been happening in one form or another for centuries going right back to the Ancient Greeks and beyond.

Your arguement is articulate and considered which for a viewer of Coronation Street does admittedly sound like a contradiction in terms.

Ancient Greeks?

Parthenon Street?

Athensenders?

If you choose to view bubble gum for the eyes of an evening then it is of course your personal choice to do so, but I wish to advocate that the idiot box in the living rooms of most homes should be used in a far more advanced and educational fashion. It is my opinion and I hope that the rational of the forum has not altered, but it is my impression that that is what happens on forums.

If you take my implications seriously then perhaps watching soaps is your calling....

"

Exactly, it's your opinion, which you are of course entitled to, but (and there will always be a but, in fact there are two in this instance) as with any opinion expressed publically you have to be prepared to have it scrutinised, pulled apart and challenged by those that do not share your opinion.

Secondly, much as you are entitled to that opinion, what is questionable is your way of expressing it, and doing so in a derogatory and insulting manner that makes sweeping generalisations about people in, as I said earlier, a vitriolic and confrontational way, is not the right way.

Sure you don't like soaps, you're entitled to that - suggesting those that watch them need counselling and the writers of them are retarded primates is not only factually incorrect, but pretty vile - whether your "implications" were intended seriously or not.

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By *picknspanMan
over a year ago

North West Leeds


"If you think that anything that goes on in a 'soap' is in any way related to the real world then you should consider some serious counselling.

The writers of these pathetic programmes are retarded primates that barely have the number of brain cells they require to grip the crayon with which they scrawl the drivel that pops up in living rooms all over the land.

Bit extreme!!

Thank god for that!

For a moment I thought I had become liberal, lily livered and no longer saying things exactly as they are!!

If you want the longer version (the question is rhetoric) Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

If you really have 4-6 hours a week spare to watch Eastenders, Coronation street and whatever others are still being thrown on to the screen then you really need to have a chat with yourself. Surely you could be doing something more worth while?

And...with that enlightening thought, I have realised that I have wasted far too much time discussing such a banal and pointless issue. I should be using my own time more constructively than writing on a forum that only fuels and fires up other deluded people.

Not quite sure who's pissed on your chips - but I'm one of those people that regularly watches and enjoys a variety of TV, including probably 3 hours a week watching Corrie - do I need to "have a chat with myself"? Does watching it disrupt my life in any way? Does it impact you to the point you have to express such a vitriolic and confrontational view of not only my intelligence but that of millions of other perfectly normal, well balanced people who enjoy soaps, or for that matter any other programme you don't happen to like?

The answer to all those questions is of course no.

Evie summed it up perfectly when she highlighted the good that soaps do by bringing important issues to the fore - things that do make you think and get people discussing those issues and in some cases actually help those that have been through them.

Yes soaps can be ridiculous and trite and an exaggeration of reality, but you could find an angle to say that about pretty much any drama ever made, including the works of Shakespeare that I mentioned earlier.

It's entertainment plain and simple, the kind of entertainment that has been happening in one form or another for centuries going right back to the Ancient Greeks and beyond.

Your arguement is articulate and considered which for a viewer of Coronation Street does admittedly sound like a contradiction in terms.

Ancient Greeks?

Parthenon Street?

Athensenders?

If you choose to view bubble gum for the eyes of an evening then it is of course your personal choice to do so, but I wish to advocate that the idiot box in the living rooms of most homes should be used in a far more advanced and educational fashion. It is my opinion and I hope that the rational of the forum has not altered, but it is my impression that that is what happens on forums.

If you take my implications seriously then perhaps watching soaps is your calling....

Exactly, it's your opinion, which you are of course entitled to, but (and there will always be a but, in fact there are two in this instance) as with any opinion expressed publically you have to be prepared to have it scrutinised, pulled apart and challenged by those that do not share your opinion.

Secondly, much as you are entitled to that opinion, what is questionable is your way of expressing it, and doing so in a derogatory and insulting manner that makes sweeping generalisations about people in, as I said earlier, a vitriolic and confrontational way, is not the right way.

Sure you don't like soaps, you're entitled to that - suggesting those that watch them need counselling and the writers of them are retarded primates is not only factually incorrect, but pretty vile - whether your "implications" were intended seriously or not."

Chill yer beans....

Okay, confession time.

As mentioned earlier by one of the forumites I do have an avid interest in Soap Operas.

I worked as TV journalist back in the day and spent Monday Wednesday and Friday at my Bessie St office in Weatherfield and Tuesday and Thursday at my office just off of Albert Square behind The Dagmar night club. 

I was a contributor to both the Walford & Salford Gazette newspapers.

Often when in the East End Arthur Fowler and me would have a chat over a pint and wonder if Lou Beale was on the game. Sometimes I'd even help Pete Beale down the apples and pears with a crate or two of his pears and apples to go on his fruit stall.

A Wednesday night in the company of my friend Ken Barlow was always heightened by a natter about how to wire a hairdryer just before your wife was going to use it or a game of dominoes with Ena Sharples and Minnie Caldwell.

So there it is, my old life as professional wordsmith in Old London Town and the cobbled streets of Lancashire is now public knowledge. 

No more can I argue that the soap opera is not a grand British tradition...

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage


"Seems like whenever someone in a soap doesn't like a person, they just murder them. Like a computer game. Get rid.

Is this making people accept murder as something 'normal'?

Eh no, it’s fiction, the same as a comic book.. unless you think wanting to be bananaman is normal

I miss Bananaman."

Oh I bet you do..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Seems like whenever someone in a soap doesn't like a person, they just murder them. Like a computer game. Get rid.

Is this making people accept murder as something 'normal'?

Eh no, it’s fiction, the same as a comic book.. unless you think wanting to be bananaman is normal

I miss Bananaman.

Oh I bet you do.."

Why the wink?

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

I've not had a TV for the last ten years, but whenever I catch a glimpse if a soap I'm generally horrified by the stuff they now show before the watershed.

Does the 9pm watershed even exist anymore? Or is graphic depictions of murder,rape, domestic violence etc etc so mainstream now it's ok to show it at 7.30 for family viewing ?

It's not my idea of "entertainment".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many of these soaps can't go 5 mins without a being killed off whether if it's by murder, an horrific accident or a terminal illness.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

They have to murder them to get them out of the show forever.

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage


"Seems like whenever someone in a soap doesn't like a person, they just murder them. Like a computer game. Get rid.

Is this making people accept murder as something 'normal'?

Eh no, it’s fiction, the same as a comic book.. unless you think wanting to be bananaman is normal

I miss Bananaman.

Oh I bet you do..

Why the wink?"

Because it’s friendlier than

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Seems like whenever someone in a soap doesn't like a person, they just murder them. Like a computer game. Get rid.

Is this making people accept murder as something 'normal'?

Eh no, it’s fiction, the same as a comic book.. unless you think wanting to be bananaman is normal

I miss Bananaman.

Oh I bet you do..

Why the wink?

Because it’s friendlier than "

x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"They have to murder them to get them out of the show forever."

That made me laugh. But they still come back.

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By *ryst In IsoldeWoman
over a year ago

your imagination


"No more so than crime shows do, or war films, or any other drama that involves murder for that matter, Shakespeare is full of it but that's not held up to scrutiny - they're dramas, they dramatise things and take an element of reality and exaggerate it for dramatic effect.

I don't think any one in their right mind takes it as anything more than that."

Even fairy tales have murders. Little Red Riding Hood, Hansel & Gretel... The 3 Little Pigs had a serial killer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's nothing normal of having a murderer living at every other house.

Corrie and EastEnders must have there own wing in a prison.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"

Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

"

I love the soaps

Signed

Aspidistra

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London


"

Soap Operas should be removed from our TV screens. All they do is give a platform for inept writers, sub standard actors and secrete rubbish into the minds of viewers who with just an additional brain cell could make their way through life as a plant.

I love the soaps

Signed

Aspidistra"

You’ve just made me snort!

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Well that's not very lady like now is it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Seems like whenever someone in a soap doesn't like a person, they just murder them. Like a argumentativecomputer game. Get rid.

Is this making people accept murder as something 'normal'?"
This is a great question! I cannot watch those things because of all the negativity in them,depressing viewing. As to whether they normalize murder (maybe to someone somewhere) I would believe the basic continuous argumentative side of these programmes is more of an issue.

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

I’m a just been to my local & the hairdresser & butcher we’re both very much alive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Seems like whenever someone in a soap doesn't like a person, they just murder them. Like a argumentativecomputer game. Get rid.

Is this making people accept murder as something 'normal'?This is a great question! I cannot watch those things because of all the negativity in them,depressing viewing. As to whether they normalize murder (maybe to someone somewhere) I would believe the basic continuous argumentative side of these programmes is more of an issue."

I have to agree, they are all so negative in their outlook, and confrontational in dialogue.

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