FabSwingers.com forum: Mccann Documentary on Netflix

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just found out that Netflix are releasing a documentary on Maddie Mccann tomorrow suggesting that it has evidence that she is still alive.

I seriously doubt that. When I heard about this, it made me ask, why?

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

Because it's a big story?

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands

If theres evidence shes alive they should have an idea where, or wheres the evidence come from

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If theres evidence shes alive they should have an idea where, or wheres the evidence come from"

That's what they said about the Michael Jackson documentary about the new evidence even though there wasn't.

I won't be watching the Mccann Documentary though as I'm sure I'm not the only one that is sick of hearing about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If theres evidence shes alive they should have an idea where, or wheres the evidence come from

That's what they said about the Michael Jackson documentary about the new evidence even though there wasn't.

I won't be watching the Mccann Documentary though as I'm sure I'm not the only one that is sick of hearing about it."

It’s just so unbelievably sad though

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If theres evidence shes alive they should have an idea where, or wheres the evidence come from

That's what they said about the Michael Jackson documentary about the new evidence even though there wasn't.

I won't be watching the Mccann Documentary though as I'm sure I'm not the only one that is sick of hearing about it.

It’s just so unbelievably sad though

Yeah. It is sad when it happened over 10 years but we don't know if she was actually taken or if there was some kind of cover up.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Ive met gerry mcgann he was senior consultant on the hospital ward my dad was on. He has that same eery cold look on his face in real life as he does on the screen

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"Because it's a big story?"

Exactly, lots of people are interested in it so good viewing figures are guaranteed. That's why.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

"Because it's a big story?

Exactly, lots of people are interested in it so good viewing figures are guaranteed. That's why. "
Great minds think alike. I'll be watching. I reckon the theory that she might of died accidentally and they covered it up, could be true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If theres evidence shes alive they should have an idea where, or wheres the evidence come from

That's what they said about the Michael Jackson documentary about the new evidence even though there wasn't.

I won't be watching the Mccann Documentary though as I'm sure I'm not the only one that is sick of hearing about it.

It’s just so unbelievably sad though

Yeah. It is sad when it happened over 10 years but we don't know if she was actually taken or if there was some kind of cover up."

I’m not sure we’ll ever know the truth

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

I was living in the Algarve when this happened and remember the media circus this was for weeks on end. Obviously the documentary guarantees high ratings as there were many theories as to what happened without any one definitive conclusion. Controversy sells.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

too gruesome I wont watch it

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

"If theres evidence shes alive they should have an idea where, or wheres the evidence come from

That's what they said about the Michael Jackson documentary about the new evidence even though there wasn't.

I won't be watching the Mccann Documentary though as I'm sure I'm not the only one that is sick of hearing about it.

It’s just so unbelievably sad though

Yeah. It is sad when it happened over 10 years but we don't know if she was actually taken or if there was some kind of cover up.

I’m not sure we’ll ever know the truth

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The nanny said that apparently. I hope it is solved.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ive met gerry mcgann he was senior consultant on the hospital ward my dad was on. He has that same eery cold look on his face in real life as he does on the screen"

How did it make you feel when you met him?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Ive met gerry mcgann he was senior consultant on the hospital ward my dad was on. He has that same eery cold look on his face in real life as he does on the screen

How did it make you feel when you met him?"
that i was glad he wasnt my dads consultant

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ive met gerry mcgann he was senior consultant on the hospital ward my dad was on. He has that same eery cold look on his face in real life as he does on the screen

How did it make you feel when you met him?that i was glad he wasnt my dads consultant"

Must not have been a nice fella that Gerry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve seen the trailer and it’s alre a let down. It’s been disproved that the window and the blinds was open. Just another load of lies x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If theres evidence shes alive they should have an idea where, or wheres the evidence come from

That's what they said about the Michael Jackson documentary about the new evidence even though there wasn't.

I won't be watching the Mccann Documentary though as I'm sure I'm not the only one that is sick of hearing about it.

It’s just so unbelievably sad though

Yeah. It is sad when it happened over 10 years but we don't know if she was actually taken or if there was some kind of cover up.

I’m not sure we’ll ever know the truth

It's still sad and actually I don't think we should ever be sick of hearing a story like this!

Whatever happened or whoever is to blame it's still an exceptionally sad story where a child is either dead or has been abducted from her parents.

Regardless of the situation or whether we like the parents or not it's a horrible situation.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"Ive met gerry mcgann he was senior consultant on the hospital ward my dad was on. He has that same eery cold look on his face in real life as he does on the screen

How did it make you feel when you met him?that i was glad he wasnt my dads consultant

Must not have been a nice fella that Gerry."
he may be the nicest man in the world but he makes me feel uneasy

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I’ve seen the trailer and it’s alre a let down. It’s been disproved that the window and the blinds was open. Just another load of lies x "

I thought so. When I heard about this, I thought the parents must be getting desperate for money.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ive met gerry mcgann he was senior consultant on the hospital ward my dad was on. He has that same eery cold look on his face in real life as he does on the screen

How did it make you feel when you met him?that i was glad he wasnt my dads consultant

Must not have been a nice fella that Gerry.he may be the nicest man in the world but he makes me feel uneasy"

I probably would have been the same.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Anyone seen the documentary on this yet?

If so, what are your thoughts?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's one to avoid. The family didn't take part and asked others not to. It's not adding anything positive to a tragic situation and just re-hashes thes

same old materials ad nauseum. Not enough for one show and certainly not a series. Making money from tragedy. Avoid.

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By *oman wantedCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire/Liverpool/Manchester

Read the book. The truth behind the lie. Very interesting x

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

Oh dear...

When I noticed yesterdays Sun at the petrol station declaring "Maddie still alive hope" or something like that (when all the other papers were shouting about Brexit Doom) I

I'd heard the McCanns were running short on cash recently so was expecting more of this tosh. Well I'm glad Kate and Gerry aren't taking part as I don't fancy more tall tales of curtains going "WHOOOSH!" and the like.

Don't worry no long posts today, suffice to say that the evidence points towards a death cover up.

There is, and never has been, evidence of any abduction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More bullshit stories trying to make money.

Terrible things have happened to many children, but for some reason all I keep hearing about is Madeleine Mcann.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just found out that Netflix are releasing a documentary on Maddie Mccann tomorrow suggesting that it has evidence that she is still alive.

I seriously doubt that. When I heard about this, it made me ask, why?"

Just like many others....this story has always fascinated me...although in less developed countries this sadly happens a lot. I may watch it, though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Because it's a big story?

Exactly, lots of people are interested in it so good viewing figures are guaranteed. That's why. Great minds think alike. I'll be watching. I reckon the theory that she might of died accidentally and they covered it up, could be true."

Really?

Are the maccans highly trained secret agents to be able to hide a body in a unknown country well enough to avoid a massive manhunt?

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By *oman wantedCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire/Liverpool/Manchester

She died that night. No doubt about it x

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

As soon as I see the word documentary I'm put off.

There aren't many people who can say for sure what happened and I'm willing to bet the editor of this documentary isn't one of them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If theres evidence shes alive they should have an idea where, or wheres the evidence come from

That's what they said about the Michael Jackson documentary about the new evidence even though there wasn't.

I won't be watching the Mccann Documentary though as I'm sure I'm not the only one that is sick of hearing about it.

It’s just so unbelievably sad though

Yeah. It is sad when it happened over 10 years but we don't know if she was actually taken or if there was some kind of cover up.

I’m not sure we’ll ever know the truth

It's still sad and actually I don't think we should ever be sick of hearing a story like this!

Whatever happened or whoever is to blame it's still an exceptionally sad story where a child is either dead or has been abducted from her parents.

Regardless of the situation or whether we like the parents or not it's a horrible situation. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's one to avoid. The family didn't take part and asked others not to. It's not adding anything positive to a tragic situation and just re-hashes thes

same old materials ad nauseum. Not enough for one show and certainly not a series. Making money from tragedy. Avoid."

I knew it. Just another cash in documentary following behind the Michael Jackson documentary.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Because it's a big story?

Really?

Are the maccans highly trained secret agents to be able to hide a body in a unknown country well enough to avoid a massive manhunt?"

You don't have to be a secret agent to hide a body, there has been many before who have done it.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Just found out that Netflix are releasing a documentary on Maddie Mccann tomorrow suggesting that it has evidence that she is still alive.

I seriously doubt that. When I heard about this, it made me ask, why?"

To make money. They can't know anything more than anyone else knows and if they did they would / should be telling the police.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"She died that night. No doubt about it x"

I think she died the night before.

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple
over a year ago

Maidstone

The parents killed her with an accidental overdose, dumped the body and told lies. End of.

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By *eliciousladyWoman
over a year ago

Sometimes U.K

Who makes money? I don’t understand this statement being made. The parents are not supporting the programme.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Who makes money? I don’t understand this statement being made. The parents are not supporting the programme. "

The people making the documentary at a guess are making the money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The parents killed her with an accidental overdose, dumped the body and told lies. End of.

Ed"

Overdose of what?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"The parents killed her with an accidental overdose, dumped the body and told lies. End of.

Overdose of what?"

Sleeping tablets ?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Sleeping tablets were found in the apartment that had been prescribed for Kate McCann's dad.

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

Netflix would be better off airing these instead, by Sonia Poulton (you may have seen her on the telly) -

The McCanns and The Police [Part One]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1M_CulIDrQ&t=28s

Madeleine McCann: Public Relations & Saving Reputations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw8ednZYRbI

Unlike the Netflix program, these answer questions, and deal with many things the regular channels won't touch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Netflix is all about money and creating membership so they just sensationalised it rather than sticking to the real facts.

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

"Just found out that Netflix are releasing a documentary on Maddie Mccann tomorrow suggesting that it has evidence that she is still alive.

I seriously doubt that. When I heard about this, it made me ask, why?

To make money. They can't know anything more than anyone else knows and if they did they would / should be telling the police."

Do check out the first link posted above, which explains in detail that it's not as simple as just going to the police. It will take more of a groundswell from people like us before anything can get done but we are heading in the right direction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Because it's a big story?

Exactly, lots of people are interested in it so good viewing figures are guaranteed. That's why. "

And this is precisely the reason why such programs are being put out. Nothing to do with whether there's any new information or evidence, but all because it's easy money for the producers of such programs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sleeping tablets were found in the apartment that had been prescribed for Kate McCann's dad. "

Did they ever prove they'd dosed up the kids? I'm lost with what's urban myth and what is the truth.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Sleeping tablets were found in the apartment that had been prescribed for Kate McCann's dad.

Did they ever prove they'd dosed up the kids? I'm lost with what's urban myth and what is the truth.

Exactly! When we have youtube and Netflix cited as "evidence" and people claiming to have read police reports that run into several thousand pages I think we can safely say that none of us will ever know what happened

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll wager you get a better investigation on Rich Planet Tv as he has been to Portugal three times and produced many videos based on real evidence and testimony.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"I'll wager you get a better investigation on Rich Planet Tv as he has been to Portugal three times and produced many videos based on real evidence and testimony."

What are his criteria for investigating and what evidence does he have access to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sleeping tablets were found in the apartment that had been prescribed for Kate McCann's dad.

Did they ever prove they'd dosed up the kids? I'm lost with what's urban myth and what is the truth.

Everyone is an expert.

They were incredibly stupid and irresponsible to leave the kids alone but I feel sick when I wonder if she really was abducted. The parents have been hounded all these years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'll wager you get a better investigation on Rich Planet Tv as he has been to Portugal three times and produced many videos based on real evidence and testimony."

3 times you say. I trust him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have seen the richplanet one. It's brilliant. They are guilty as sin my my eyes. He goes though the police statements and talks all about the sniffer dogs they brought over.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I know that the Mccanns say that they have nothing to do with the documentary but maybe that's what they want us to think. Like I said before, they must be getting desperate for money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think she died in the day or the night before and covered up as they were doctors and scared at losing their careers.

If Maddie was snatched why didn't they take the twins as well??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The parents killed her with an accidental overdose, dumped the body and told lies. End of.

Overdose of what?

Sleeping tablets ?"

See this is the theory I believe in.

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By *osmicGateMan
over a year ago

louth

"I think she died in the day or the night before and covered up as they were doctors and scared at losing their careers.

If Maddie was snatched why didn't they take the twins as well??"

The man who took her could only carry 1 child away at a time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think she died in the day or the night before and covered up as they were doctors and scared at losing their careers.

If Maddie was snatched why didn't they take the twins as well??

The man who took her could only carry 1 child away at a time"

I'm sure there was more than one person if that did happen and why didn't the twins wake up! Surely if that was the case, Maddie would have been crying and screaming to wake the twins up. No way was she snatched.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Sleeping tablets were found in the apartment that had been prescribed for Kate McCann's dad.

Did they ever prove they'd dosed up the kids? I'm lost with what's urban myth and what is the truth.

Everyone is an expert.

They were incredibly stupid and irresponsible to leave the kids alone but I feel sick when I wonder if she really was abducted. The parents have been hounded all these years.

Yes, beyond stupid and I agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The parents killed her with an accidental overdose, dumped the body and told lies. End of.

Overdose of what?

Sleeping tablets ?

See this is the theory I believe in. "

It's what I believe too. I think one of the McCanns gave her a diazepam to calm her down for some reason, then after a few drinks the other one gave her more without realising and she went into respiratory arrest. I've worked with visiting doctors and they always seemed to have diazepam on them as it's a standard sedative. The tablets themselves come in 2mg, 5mg and 10mg and the tablets look really similar - probably even more so in the gloom of an unlit room and after a few drinks.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

What about other kids that go missing? Is the same amount of money being spent on finding them too? Kids like Ben Needham for example.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there's an old Yorkshire saying,"It'll all come out in the wash".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What about other kids that go missing? Is the same amount of money being spent on finding them too? Kids like Ben Needham for example. "

Nothing was spent in him hardly x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"there's an old Yorkshire saying,"It'll all come out in the wash"."

Well it's taking long enough x

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"What about other kids that go missing? Is the same amount of money being spent on finding them too? Kids like Ben Needham for example.

Nothing was spent in him hardly x"

Precisely the point of my post.

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

"I'll wager you get a better investigation on Rich Planet Tv as he has been to Portugal three times and produced many videos based on real evidence and testimony.

3 times you say. I trust him."

Bravo for the Rich Planet mention! Came across his Madeleine work by accident last February and was amazed by the work he's put in. I rate him as a good man and trust him too, even if I don't agree with everything or all his other work. I'd certainly take him over the BBC any day.

Here are the links again.

Buried by Mainstream Media: The true story of Madeleine McCann

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yYwFnglhtw

The Phantoms (false abductors)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0-ePd3FCU

When Madeleine Died?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70oo2-Sj7to

Madeleine: Why the Cover-Up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXnZGccqRTk

And my personal favourite:

The McCann's Embedded Confessions - an interview with statement analyst Peter Hyatt (FBI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS6ucYudNAo

That was filmed in 2014 I think. Peter Hyatt has released a Madeleine update a few months ago!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LyqZKZ4Q8

If you liked Richard D Hall's work, please make sure you see Sonia Poulton's posted above too. She is from the mainstream media world and deals with things Richard Hall hasn't covered.

The Media are aware of the above - They were all sent free copies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'll wager you get a better investigation on Rich Planet Tv as he has been to Portugal three times and produced many videos based on real evidence and testimony.

3 times you say. I trust him.

Here are the links again.

Buried by Mainstream Media: The true story of Madeleine McCann

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yYwFnglhtw

The Phantoms (false abductors)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0-ePd3FCU

When Madeleine Died?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70oo2-Sj7to

Madeleine: Why the Cover-Up?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXnZGccqRTk

And my personal favourite:

The McCann's Embedded Confessions - an interview with statement analyst Peter Hyatt (FBI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS6ucYudNAo

That was filmed in 2014 I think. Peter Hyatt has released a Madeleine update a few months ago!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_LyqZKZ4Q8

If you liked Richard D Hall's work, please make sure you see Sonia Poulton's posted above too. She is from the mainstream media world and deals with things Richard Hall hasn't covered.

The Media are aware of the above - They were all sent free copies."

I can't be arsed to watch them all. What was his conclusion.

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

"Sleeping tablets were found in the apartment that had been prescribed for Kate McCann's dad.

Did they ever prove they'd dosed up the kids? I'm lost with what's urban myth and what is the truth.

The links above should make things clearer I hope.

I always find this view interesting. While a video isn't evidence, it certainly can present evidence. The view that if something is online it doesn't have value is quite an odd one I find.

"There's a lot of rubbish online" is something I hear people say. Indeed there is. It is also the only place you are only really going to find out more about what's going on. It's about finding something with quality.

"Internet experts" is another one. Are the absolute windbags on TV, like Mark-Williams Thomas who is mentioned by Richard Hall, and useless people like Lorraine Kelly ("ooh those awful people saying those horrible things about Kate and Gerry") better? (No)

People like Peter Hyatt are experts, and have videos online.

No wonder the powers that shouldn't be are going to great lengths to get the internet censored, and youtube are systematically removing videos and accounts they find who deviate from the official line, also tampering with view counts (people reporting the real news find their view counts go down).

I don't understand the resistance, because I don't think people are trying to argue, but are for you, by coming and saying "take a look at this".

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

"I can't be arsed to watch them all. What was his conclusion. "

That's understandable, I wouldn't expect you to. There's over 15hrs there! The list is for completeness sake presented in one post.

I'll post Peter Hyatt's conclusion, drawn from analysing the language of the McCanns, to start:

CONCLUSION

Madeleine is dead.

The death was not intentional.

The McCanns have disposed of the remains in a hidden manner and they feel confident will not be found.

Cause of death may have included causing her to be very sleepy and a fall.

They have feared being accused.

Timeframe must be questioned.

And a "Strong" possibility of sexual abuse.

I recommend starting with the Embedded Confessions one, my favourite. If you like crime programmes in any way this is a Must watch. Then watch any others if you want to.

If an interview regarding the McCanns seems too loaded right now, here is another one (yeah I know sorry) speaking about Katelyn Markham from America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u84qJYjsCSE

This one is fascinating because he talks in detail about 911 callers in general and how to analyse them and tell the difference between a genuine caller and a guilty one... Talks about Lance Armstrong, unreliable denial and more.

In this case, his conclusion is that the 911 caller, Katelyn's boyfriend, possesses guilty knowledge of what happened to her. I found the whole thing entirely engaging from start to finish.

Can play youtube videos on x 1.25 speed too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I won’t watch it purely because there is nothing new that we aren’t aware of, I think most of the population is an agreement with everyone else that the poor girl is dead, one way or another.

I read the 48 questions that kate refused to answer this morning, some of the questions didn’t seem relevant to what was going on at the time but then I’m not s police officer looking for clues etc.

I don’t think we will ever know the truth, unless by some miracle her brother or sister comes forward with any information but I can’t imagine for the life of me they would as they were far to young at the time, only they would know what really happened.

Danish x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If theres evidence shes alive they should have an idea where, or wheres the evidence come from

That's what they said about the Michael Jackson documentary about the new evidence even though there wasn't.

I won't be watching the Mccann Documentary though as I'm sure I'm not the only one that is sick of hearing about it.

It’s just so unbelievably sad though

Yeah. It is sad when it happened over 10 years but we don't know if she was actually taken or if there was some kind of cover up.

I’m not sure we’ll ever know the truth

It's still sad and actually I don't think we should ever be sick of hearing a story like this!

Whatever happened or whoever is to blame it's still an exceptionally sad story where a child is either dead or has been abducted from her parents.

Regardless of the situation or whether we like the parents or not it's a horrible situation. "

I totally agree. I think it's quite selfish when people complain that they are bored of hearing about a particular topic. Brexit is a prime example. "I'm bored of it, just get on with it". Nice one, let's just ignore a missing child because you've got the attention span of a gnat.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"Because it's a big story?

Exactly, lots of people are interested in it so good viewing figures are guaranteed. That's why.

Indeed

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

the final irony is the programme on netflix was rated PG for parental guidance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't be arsed to watch them all. What was his conclusion.

That's understandable, I wouldn't expect you to. There's over 15hrs there! The list is for completeness sake presented in one post.

I'll post Peter Hyatt's conclusion, drawn from analysing the language of the McCanns, to start:

CONCLUSION

Madeleine is dead.

The death was not intentional.

The McCanns have disposed of the remains in a hidden manner and they feel confident will not be found.

Cause of death may have included causing her to be very sleepy and a fall.

They have feared being accused.

Timeframe must be questioned.

And a "Strong" possibility of sexual abuse.

I recommend starting with the Embedded Confessions one, my favourite. If you like crime programmes in any way this is a Must watch. Then watch any others if you want to.

If an interview regarding the McCanns seems too loaded right now, here is another one (yeah I know sorry) speaking about Katelyn Markham from America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u84qJYjsCSE

In this case, his conclusion is that the 911 caller, Katelyn's boyfriend, possesses guilty knowledge of what happened to her. I found the whole thing entirely engaging from start to finish.

Can play youtube videos on x 1.25 speed too

I might have to now xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I won’t watch it purely because there is nothing new that we aren’t aware of, I think most of the population is an agreement with everyone else that the poor girl is dead, one way or another.

Danish x"

They may do when they are older x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The parents actions that night were very suspicious, what responsible parents would leave three young children on their own and go drinking. What if there had been a fire ? Doesn't all add up.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Even if they had no hand in her disappearance doesn’t change the fact it’s their fault qs their behaviour that night was abusive and neglectful. No good parent drugs up their kids on sleeping meds and just leaves them along so they can have a few drinks a a nice meal

So They’re arseholes either way I’m my eyes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Even if they had no hand in her disappearance doesn’t change the fact it’s their fault qs their behaviour that night was abusive and neglectful. No good parent drugs up their kids on sleeping meds and just leaves them along so they can have a few drinks a a nice meal

So They’re arseholes either way I’m my eyes. "

I couldn't agree more

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just hope she died quickly."

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Sleeping tablets were found in the apartment that had been prescribed for Kate McCann's dad.

Did they ever prove they'd dosed up the kids? I'm lost with what's urban myth and what is the truth.

The links above should make things clearer I hope.

I always find this view interesting. While a video isn't evidence, it certainly can present evidence. The view that if something is online it doesn't have value is quite an odd one I find.

People like Peter Hyatt are experts, and have videos online.

I don't understand the resistance, because I don't think people are trying to argue, but are for you, by coming and saying "take a look at this"."

The reason I'm resistant to internet experts, YouTube etc is because there is so much evidence presented to lay people who don't have the skills, knowledge or expertise to sort the possible from the probable and the improbable.

It's interesting that you present the people whose opinions you dismiss as windbags and useless.

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over a year ago

Sniffer dog thing was a surprise

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

"Sleeping tablets were found in the apartment that had been prescribed for Kate McCann's dad.

Did they ever prove they'd dosed up the kids? I'm lost with what's urban myth and what is the truth.

The links above should make things clearer I hope.

I always find this view interesting. While a video isn't evidence, it certainly can present evidence. The view that if something is online it doesn't have value is quite an odd one I find.

People like Peter Hyatt are experts, and have videos online.

I don't understand the resistance, because I don't think people are trying to argue, but are for you, by coming and saying "take a look at this".

It's interesting that you present the people whose opinions you dismiss as windbags and useless."

I wouldn't call people like Sonia Poulton and Peter Hyatt lay experts but there you go.

Just because they're work can be found online doesn't invalidate anything they say.

Everyone is free to have their opinion. Mine is based on the evidence.

The theory of an abduction has no evidence, or very little.

My opinion on most matters is to simply follow the evidence and think for myself. No beef with Kate and Gerry personally except they're a pair of creeps

Since the McCanns and friends are thought to be swingers, it has crossed my mind whether they could be known to some people here. (maybe not since they would use the posh version of Fab)

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Sleeping tablets were found in the apartment that had been prescribed for Kate McCann's dad.

Did they ever prove they'd dosed up the kids? I'm lost with what's urban myth and what is the truth.

The links above should make things clearer I hope.

I always find this view interesting. While a video isn't evidence, it certainly can present evidence. The view that if something is online it doesn't have value is quite an odd one I find.

People like Peter Hyatt are experts, and have videos online.

I don't understand the resistance, because I don't think people are trying to argue, but are for you, by coming and saying "take a look at this".

It's interesting that you present the people whose opinions you dismiss as windbags and useless.

I wouldn't call people like Sonia Poulton and Peter Hyatt lay experts but there you go.

Just because they're work can be found online doesn't invalidate anything they say.

Everyone is free to have their opinion. Mine is based on the evidence.

The theory of an abduction has no evidence, or very little.

My opinion on most matters is to simply follow the evidence and think for myself. No beef with Kate and Gerry personally except they're a pair of creeps

Since the McCanns and friends are thought to be swingers, it has crossed my mind whether they could be known to some people here. (maybe not since they would use the posh version of Fab)"

I meant that lay people i.e. most of us are presented with evidence by many different experts and we don't have the knowledge to differentiate between the possible, probable and unlikely. I think our interaction backs this up. You have inferred a quite different meaning from my words to my actual intent.

I like to think for myself too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before. "

Wasn't she seen alive that day though?

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over a year ago

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before.

Wasn't she seen alive that day though? "

Yes she was and the point is I don't think it could have been the parents!

She appeared in the kids club that day and seen an hour before they were put to bed.

It was only an hour and a half time period where the family were alone in the apartment and I just think if they had killed her what on earth did they do with the body because the whole place was searched and they would have found a body.

people are convinced it was apparent because there been no other leads but i think that the portuguese police are completely to blame for that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven’t watched yet, but I will.

It’s a strange and tragic case for sure. Whatever happened and whoever is “guilty” it’s the poor little girl and her siblings that I really feel for.

The McCanns behaviour does certainly seem odd in both the immediate and longer term aftermath but who says what the “right” way to react is in such circumstances? Grief and stress can affect people in different ways.

I do find it perplexing that a never ending supply of funding seems to be available for this long term missing persons case yet other missing person investigations get nowhere near as much attention or resources.

And government spin doctors appointed almost immediately to support the family in Spain, certainly unusual!

As I say, a strange case indeed. I hope one day there is closure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've almost finished watching it and with every episode of The Documentary I change my mind!

It's very detailed and covers pretty much everything but as ever been mentioned but in very great detail and I now firmly believe the Portuguese police completely screwed it up and then tried to cover it up by blaming the parents.

However like I said my opinion changes after every episode so I will let you know where I'm at after the next one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ive met gerry mcgann he was senior consultant on the hospital ward my dad was on. He has that same eery cold look on his face in real life as he does on the screen"

Iv seen him at work too and he doesnt come across well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know that the Mccanns say that they have nothing to do with the documentary but maybe that's what they want us to think. Like I said before, they must be getting desperate for money. "

I doubt they are desperate for money as Gerry has a well paid job.

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over a year ago

"I know that the Mccanns say that they have nothing to do with the documentary but maybe that's what they want us to think. Like I said before, they must be getting desperate for money.

I doubt they are desperate for money as Gerry has a well paid job. "

I don't think they've ever tried to make money out of the disappearance of Madeleine because as far as I'm aware every penny they've made has gone back into the fund to try and find her and the investigators that they have hired.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I won’t watch it purely because there is nothing new that we aren’t aware of, I think most of the population is an agreement with everyone else that the poor girl is dead, one way or another.

Danish x"

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over a year ago

"I won’t watch it purely because there is nothing new that we aren’t aware of, I think most of the population is an agreement with everyone else that the poor girl is dead, one way or another.

Danish x

I am on the second to last episode and there is definitely stuff that we haven't heard before which makes it very compelling that it probably wasn't the parents and a cover up by the Portuguese police, because when you actually see the evidence that has been uncovered by British police and private investigators of other reports days before Madeleine went missing and I've never heard any of these before.

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over a year ago

"I know that the Mccanns say that they have nothing to do with the documentary but maybe that's what they want us to think. Like I said before, they must be getting desperate for money.

I doubt they are desperate for money as Gerry has a well paid job.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

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"I won’t watch it purely because there is nothing new that we aren’t aware of, I think most of the population is an agreement with everyone else that the poor girl is dead, one way or another.

Danish x

You see this is what I don't understand regards documentaries that claim to have damning new evidence.

Surely the first place they should go is he police not a recording studio?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

At one point they used the fund to pay their mortgage until they were told it was illegal.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before.

Wasn't she seen alive that day though?

Yes she was and the point is I don't think it could have been the parents!

She appeared in the kids club that day and seen an hour before they were put to bed.

She was signed into the kids club that day but during a period when all the kids and nannies were on a trip to the beach and the club was empty so no one actually saw her.

The person who says he saw her was one of their friends who came to the apartment to check Mrs McCann was OK as Gerry was playing tennis. Why wouldn't she be OK ?

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over a year ago

"I won’t watch it purely because there is nothing new that we aren’t aware of, I think most of the population is an agreement with everyone else that the poor girl is dead, one way or another.

Danish x

You see this is what I don't understand regards documentaries that claim to have damning new evidence.

Surely the first place they should go is he police not a recording studio?"

If you watch the documentary you will totally understand that they have tried to go to the police but the Portuguese please suggest not interested.

There's lots of things that have been revealed that I had no idea I would ever heard of before.

For example there were incidents of a man breaking into a woman's home while she was upstairs and when she came down he was stood next to her 3 year old daughter and then she chased him out of the house.

This was days before Madeleine went missing and there were other reports of this man hanging around children on the beach but the police did not link the two.

Also the police claimed that blood has been found in the apartment but then it turned out that they'd actually lied about that.

Also DNA was found in the hire car but that car has been hired 16 days after Madeleine has been reported missing and it was only a very slight match but then as members of the McCann family had been in the car you would expect to find McCann family DNA.

It really has made me change my mind.

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over a year ago

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before.

Wasn't she seen alive that day though?

Yes she was and the point is I don't think it could have been the parents!

She appeared in the kids club that day and seen an hour before they were put to bed.

She was signed into the kids club that day but during a period when all the kids and nannies were on a trip to the beach and the club was empty so no one actually saw her.

The person who says he saw her was one of their friends who came to the apartment to check Mrs McCann was OK as Gerry was playing tennis. Why wouldn't she be OK ?"

No there are photographs taken of her being involved in the children's activities and another family that would not with the mccanns are interviewed on the documentary and there is a photo of his child and Madeline that is taken on the day that she disappeared so she was seen. This documentary is so in-depth and it's not biased because the first three episodes I was completely convinced that it was the parents but this documentary is a very thorough and actually shows that a lot of misconception is out there in the public I really do think if people watch it they will be surprised at what they see. I was! I was convinced it was the parents but now I'm convinced it wasn't.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"I know that the Mccanns say that they have nothing to do with the documentary but maybe that's what they want us to think. Like I said before, they must be getting desperate for money.

I doubt they are desperate for money as Gerry has a well paid job. "

There are lots of people with well paid jobs, it doesn't mean they may never get into debt.

( a general comment and not saying they were in debt )

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By *ndy0001Man
over a year ago

leeds

This should not have been aired. Shocking, baseless and scurrilous mischief making.

Shame on the producers and god help the poor family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This should not have been aired. Shocking, baseless and scurrilous mischief making.

Shame on the producers and god help the poor family. "

Have you watched it?

Because if you have I'm very surprised to have that for you if you haven't you really should because you will be surprised.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I always wonder why the McCanns waited almost 18 months before they allowed Crimewatch to do a reconstruction.

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over a year ago

"I always wonder why the McCanns waited almost 18 months before they allowed Crimewatch to do a reconstruction. "

In the documentary it says that it was because they have been named as suspect they weren't allowed to give permission because they weren't allowed to discuss the case. Honestly you really should watch it it's a opening.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I definitely will watch it.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

i have always thought the abduction story a bit strange.abduct a three year old they will create merry hell and are old enough to let ppl know this isnt my mummy or daddy.take a baby they will never remember what happened.personal opinion is there was accident that was parents fault and they coverd it up.is always amazing that social services have not been involved in there lifes.lets be honest if they had been of a council estate instead of doctors the state would of been all over them.dunno how teue it is but seen they have freinds in high places.they always look after there own

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By *onnie And Clyde9070Couple
over a year ago

Leeds

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before.

Wasn't she seen alive that day though?

Yes she was and the point is I don't think it could have been the parents!

She appeared in the kids club that day and seen an hour before they were put to bed.

people are convinced it was apparent because there been no other leads but i think that the portuguese police are completely to blame for that."

The police cadaver dogs found evidence of a dead body being in the apartment recently and also in the McCann's hire car.

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over a year ago

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before.

Wasn't she seen alive that day though?

Yes she was and the point is I don't think it could have been the parents!

She appeared in the kids club that day and seen an hour before they were put to bed.

people are convinced it was apparent because there been no other leads but i think that the portuguese police are completely to blame for that.

The police cadaver dogs found evidence of a dead body being in the apartment recently and also in the McCann's hire car."

No they didn't if you watch the documentary the police admitted that was exaggerated evidence. Even the dog handler said he was surprised that the police ever said they had evidence of this because it was so tenuous. Also the car wasn't hired until 16 days after Madeleine disappeared and in that time the parents were in front of the media almost 24/7 so I don't know how they would have had time to move a body without somebody noticing. I have the same misconceptions as everybody else until I watched this and it puts all the evidence out in front of you and I flip flops the entire way through as I said earlier but I have realised how much misinformation has been put out there.

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By *oo32Man
over a year ago

tipperary

"i have always thought the abduction story a bit strange.abduct a three year old they will create merry hell and are old enough to let ppl know this isnt my mummy or daddy.take a baby they will never remember what happened.personal opinion is there was accident that was parents fault and they coverd it up.is always amazing that social services have not been involved in there lifes.lets be honest if they had been of a council estate instead of doctors the state would of been all over them.dunno how teue it is but seen they have freinds in high places.they always look after there own"

Watch the documentary buddy it's an eyeopener

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

wether they were involved in her dissaperence or death we will never know.what we do know is they thought it perfectally ok to go out and leave 3 children 3 and under on there own why they went out for dinner and drinks.so if anything they are definatley guilty of neglect

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over a year ago

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before.

Wasn't she seen alive that day though?

Yes she was and the point is I don't think it could have been the parents!

She appeared in the kids club that day and seen an hour before they were put to bed.

people are convinced it was apparent because there been no other leads but i think that the portuguese police are completely to blame for that.

The police cadaver dogs found evidence of a dead body being in the apartment recently and also in the McCann's hire car.

That's probably why the parents weren't involved in making the documentary. If they had been, the makers would have been accused of bias.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just found out that Netflix are releasing a documentary on Maddie Mccann tomorrow suggesting that it has evidence that she is still alive.

I seriously doubt that. When I heard about this, it made me ask, why?"
why did they make the the documentary or why did her parents leave her on her own ?

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over a year ago

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before.

Wasn't she seen alive that day though?

Yes she was and the point is I don't think it could have been the parents!

She appeared in the kids club that day and seen an hour before they were put to bed.

people are convinced it was apparent because there been no other leads but i think that the portuguese police are completely to blame for that.

The police cadaver dogs found evidence of a dead body being in the apartment recently and also in the McCann's hire car.

That's probably why the parents weren't involved in making the documentary. If they had been, the makers would have been accused of bias."

Actually I don't think anybody could have Q's them of bias because it really is very balanced. It's literally warts and all. It's simply just put the facts out there because I think that's the problem there's been so much speculation and rumours that no one really knows what the actual fact of the case was.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

how do netflix have all the facts? yhey just regugitating whats already out there.after 10 million quid and years of a met investigation i really cant see how a streaming service is gona uncover stuff that a ten year investigation hasnt already

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By *oserMan
over a year ago

where the wild roses grow

I have watched up to e7 and like you have changed my mind umpteen times, right now ? I think she was abducted and they were guilty of neglect.

The blood and cadaver dog stuff is of no value according to the forensic experts.

One thing for sure the Portuguese police were USELESS

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over a year ago

"how do netflix have all the facts? yhey just regugitating whats already out there.after 10 million quid and years of a met investigation i really cant see how a streaming service is gona uncover stuff that a ten year investigation hasnt already"

You wouldn't be saying that if you had watched it and everybody I know that has has had very similar things to me that they have flip flopped the entire way through it is not investigative piece it is literally just laying out the facts and it is not bias in any way.

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over a year ago

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before.

Wasn't she seen alive that day though?

Yes she was and the point is I don't think it could have been the parents!

She appeared in the kids club that day and seen an hour before they were put to bed.

people are convinced it was apparent because there been no other leads but i think that the portuguese police are completely to blame for that.

The police cadaver dogs found evidence of a dead body being in the apartment recently and also in the McCann's hire car.

That's probably why the parents weren't involved in making the documentary. If they had been, the makers would have been accused of bias.

I don't think it's biased either. I mean just the fact that you now think they didn't do it, would make people who are adamant that they are involved, say that the doc was biased.

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By *oo32Man
over a year ago

tipperary

So let me ask?..do you have all the facts?

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over a year ago

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before.

Wasn't she seen alive that day though?

Yes she was and the point is I don't think it could have been the parents!

She appeared in the kids club that day and seen an hour before they were put to bed.

people are convinced it was apparent because there been no other leads but i think that the portuguese police are completely to blame for that.

The police cadaver dogs found evidence of a dead body being in the apartment recently and also in the McCann's hire car.

That's probably why the parents weren't involved in making the documentary. If they had been, the makers would have been accused of bias.

I don't think it's biased either. I mean just the fact that you now think they didn't do it, would make people who are adamant that they are involved, say that the doc was biased. "

Anybody that watched it would have a really hard time no matter what side of the fence they sit on in saying that that was biased to either side to be honest it was just very well done. They haven't tried to sensationalise anything and may Havant try to be investigative they have literally just laid out the facts in very simple formats.

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over a year ago

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before.

Wasn't she seen alive that day though?

Yes she was and the point is I don't think it could have been the parents!

She appeared in the kids club that day and seen an hour before they were put to bed.

people are convinced it was apparent because there been no other leads but i think that the portuguese police are completely to blame for that.

The police cadaver dogs found evidence of a dead body being in the apartment recently and also in the McCann's hire car.

That's probably why the parents weren't involved in making the documentary. If they had been, the makers would have been accused of bias.

I don't think it's biased either. I mean just the fact that you now think they didn't do it, would make people who are adamant that they are involved, say that the doc was biased.

True but there are people who will cling to a belief regardless of the evidence.

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over a year ago

"She died that night. No doubt about it x

I think she died the night before.

Wasn't she seen alive that day though?

Yes she was and the point is I don't think it could have been the parents!

She appeared in the kids club that day and seen an hour before they were put to bed.

people are convinced it was apparent because there been no other leads but i think that the portuguese police are completely to blame for that.

The police cadaver dogs found evidence of a dead body being in the apartment recently and also in the McCann's hire car.

That's probably why the parents weren't involved in making the documentary. If they had been, the makers would have been accused of bias.

I don't think it's biased either. I mean just the fact that you now think they didn't do it, would make people who are adamant that they are involved, say that the doc was biased.

True but there are people who will cling to a belief regardless of the evidence. "

Of course but I think the thing is because the mccanns didn't fit a stereotypical view of a victim or behave in a way that we think we would in that situation people have vilified them.

At the end of the day if that was anyone's child and they had the resources and the connections the mccanns did they would have used them too.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

So are we saying that the information (I hesitate to call it evidence) previously put forward by various media including the internet that caused lots of people to damn the parents has now been replaced by information, again put forward by various media, that changes that?

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over a year ago

"So are we saying that the information (I hesitate to call it evidence) previously put forward by various media including the internet that caused lots of people to damn the parents has now been replaced by information, again put forward by various media, that changes that?

It appears so.

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over a year ago

I suppose "evidence" can be presented with spin attached.

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over a year ago

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It appears so.

its one reason I am so sceptical of the "facts" as represented by media

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over a year ago

East Sussex

I suppose "evidence" can be presented with spin attached. "

Absolutely no doubt of it. Humans are fallible beings and will interpret things to suit their own agenda

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

"Just found out that Netflix are releasing a documentary on Maddie Mccann tomorrow suggesting that it has evidence that she is still alive.

I seriously doubt that. When I heard about this, it made me ask, why?"

Most likely because most people know that the parents are somehow involved in her disappearance.

For some reason they seem immune from prosecution, even if nothing else for their neglect.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Saw this on Facebook that someone posted stating questions they would ask Kate Mccann.

I apologise in advance as this is a long one.

48 questions I would like Kate McCann to answer.

1. Why did you not physically search for Madeleine?

2. Why did you leave the twins when you realised Madeleine was missing, risking them also being taken?

3. What did you mean by 'they've taken her'. Who's 'they' Kate?

4. Why did you refuse to answer police questioning that could have helped find your daughter?

5. At the time, Gordon Brown was Chancellor of the Exchequer, not the Foreign Secretary. So why did he put so much pressure on the Portuguese police?

6. Why did you wash cuddle cat?

7. Where is Madeleine's pink blanket now, we know it was on her bed 4th May?

8. Why did you lie about the shutters being smashed/jemmied/broken?

9. Why did you change your original statement from the door being locked to the door being unlocked?

10. Why did you presume Madeleine had been abducted when there was no evidence to suggest she had been?

11. What happened to the blue sports bag that was in your wardrobe?

12. Why didn't the twins wake up the night Madeleine disappeared when there were people constantly walking in and out of their room?

13. Why did you dismiss the dogs evidence knowing that they had been right in at least 200 cases?

14. Why was Madeleine's DNA found in the boot of the hire car that had been hired 24 days after her disappearance?

15. How could you and Gerry find it in you to laugh/jog/play tennis days after your daughters disappearance?

16. Why did you get the media involved so early on ignoring the advise from the Portuguese police?

17. Why did it take 45 minutes for the police to be called?

18. Why are there so many inconsistency in all of your statements?

19. Why were the checks more consistent on the night Madeleine was reported missing?

20. Why was Madeleine crying for an hour and 15 minutes even though phone records prove Kate was in the apartment 3 minutes before?

21. Why did you hire Carter Ruck lawyers, especially the one that specialised in extraditions?

22. Why has only 10% of the fund been spent on the search?

23. Why did you suppress the E-Fits that are being used in the current investigation, is it because the Smiths identified your husband as the man they saw carrying Madeleine towards the beach the night of Madeleine's disappearance?

24. Why is your online shop still up and running even though there is 2 ongoing investigations?

25. Why did the government assign their spin doctor to control what is said about you in the media less than 24 hours after Madeleine's disappearance?

26. Why did you leave Portugal so quickly after being made arguidos?

27. Why did you lie about cuddle cat being high up on a shelf?

28. What on earth did you mean by this comment - "The police don't want a murder in Portugal and all the publicity about them not having paedophile laws here, so they're blaming us,"?

29. Why did you celebrate Madeleine's 4th birthday, shouldn't you have been searching?

30. Why is the fund not registered with the Charities Commission?

31. Why do you think it's acceptable to talk about your child's 'perfect genitals being torn apart' in your book?

32. Why is there no mention of Katerina Gaspers statement in your book, accusing David Payne of making inappropriate comments about your child to your husband?

33. Why did you draw so much attention to Madeleine's eye after the PJ warned you it could push the 'abductors' to harm her?

34. Why did you discount Mrs Fenns account of the crying?

35. What files does Theresa May have that she refuses to share with Portugal?

36. Why did you refuse to do reconstruction?

37. Why have you said you wish Gonçalo to be miserable and feel fear, he did everything possible to search for your child until he uncovered the truth of what you did to her?

38. Why were you happy with courting the media as long as they only reported an abduction?

39. Why are you suing people that are asking questions or purporting a theory?

40. Why did you spend £100K getting the police files translated but haven't released them?

41. Will you refund anyone who gave donations who have now read the evidence, should they want one?

42. How could the curtains 'Whooosh!' When they were trapped between the bed and the chair?

43. Why did it take you 144 days to get the twins tested to see if they had been sedated the night Madeleine disappeared?

44. What was in Gerry CATS file before it was sanitised?

45. How did the intruder manage to leave no forensic evidence?

46. Why was there no DNA found belonging to Madeleine in the apartment, forcing Gerry to return home to collect her pillowcase?

47. WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU WHILST THE POLICE ARE DIGGING UP LUZ KATE?

48. Why will you go to Portugal to attend the libel trial in the hope of receiving a million pound pay out but not while the police are trying to dig up your child's body?

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

So let me ask?..do you have all the facts?"

no i dont have all the facts but then neither do netflix.the only peeps who know what happened are the ppl involved wether that be the parents or others everything else is opinion.but still like to know why they wasnt investigated lwt alone prosocuted for neglect.for a cpl who are supposed to be highly educated they didnt use that intelect to realise leaving young children alone why u go out to enjoy yourself is a cuntish thing to do.my 6 yr old is the most precious thing in my life and is no way i would fuck off out for a drink why shes asleep.so guilty of murder mabey not guilty of being shit parents most definatley

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I would like to ask the McCann's why they went on holiday with three children under four and didn't take a pushchair !

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By *oo32Man
over a year ago

tipperary

So let me ask?..do you have all the facts?

Agreed that they def shouldn't have left the kids....but it's a big jump from being a shit parent to a murderer

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

sorry let me re phrase that not guilty of murder no.but IF they are involved id should of said manslaughter instead if murder. watever happenend to that littlle girl her parents are guilty for some or all of it.dunno if u got kids or not but if you have would you ever think its a good idea to leave 3 kids that small on there own why you went for drinks and a meal

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

"I would like to ask the McCann's why they went on holiday with three children under four and didn't take a pushchair !"

Their answer would probably be;

"Someone must have broken in and stolen them"

Either that or "why do we need pushchairs when we aren't taking the kids back with us?"

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

"Just found out that Netflix are releasing a documentary on Maddie Mccann tomorrow suggesting that it has evidence that she is still alive.

I seriously doubt that. When I heard about this, it made me ask, why?

Most likely because most people know that the parents are somehow involved in her disappearance.

For some reason they seem immune from prosecution, even if nothing else for their neglect."

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By *oo32Man
over a year ago

tipperary

"sorry let me re phrase that not guilty of murder no.but IF they are involved id should of said manslaughter instead if murder. watever happenend to that littlle girl her parents are guilty for some or all of it.dunno if u got kids or not but if you have would you ever think its a good idea to leave 3 kids that small on there own why you went for drinks and a meal"

Never a good idea to leave them on their own...and yes I'd agree that they should def be done for neglect...bad parents def...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles.

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles."
Maybe the quilt they have to live with x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles."

Should they smile more to look less guilty?

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

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over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles. Maybe the quilt they have to live with x"

They could always switch to a different tog rating

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles. Maybe the quilt they have to live with x"

Exactly or to get sympathy points from the public.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I wonder if while they dined, the McCanns left their money and passports in the unlocked apartment which was accessible from a public road ?

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over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles. Maybe the quilt they have to live with x

Exactly or to get sympathy points from the public."

How exactly do you expect parents to look you have a missing child?

If they looked to happy people would say I will they clearly not that bothered I think people have just made their mind up and will do anything they can to make it fit in their mind that these parents are to blame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't understand the people on this thread, they're saying that at the very least the parents should be done for neglect.

Even if they had left the child unattended it doesn't mean they deserve to have a child abducted.

Also it's funny how people target these parents and nobody has the same mentality regarding Sarah Payne's parents she was 6 years old and playing with a small group of friends of a similar age half a mile away from her grandparents home. I think it's because they don't fit people's idea for victim and I also feel that if in 10 years time for example we find out what the parents had absolutely no involvement are the people that have bullied and victimised is people going to apologise!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ive met gerry mcgann he was senior consultant on the hospital ward my dad was on. He has that same eery cold look on his face in real life as he does on the screen"

He treated my grandma.

I think the parents are guilty and behave that way psychologicly.

I've analized the mother's behaviour and it's all fake.

It feels obvious to me that they had a part in it. They are really wierd people and everything they were up to seems satanic and wierd.

I can't prove this but there are plenty of people who psych analized them and see the inconsistency in the parents.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Parents killed her.

My grandad picked a few of the murderers who appear on tv after the crime e.g. Ian huntley

They don't even talk about her like she is a person they loved. She's just an experimental child they didn't love.

It's been broken down time and time again by psychologists.

The language and behaviour of the parents in interview correlated with guilty people.

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By *oo32Man
over a year ago

tipperary

So most of the people here think the parents are guilty....why after so many years are they not convicted?

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

Sonia Poulton goes into some detail here

The McCanns and the police

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1M_CulIDrQ&t=1160s

The guy set to lead Operation Grange before Andy Redwood took over was forced to quit because he wanted to carry out the investigation properly but was told he had to start from an abduction, and only an abduction. He gives an interview on this.

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth

"...I think people have just made their mind up and will do anything they can to make it fit in their mind that these parents are to blame. "

No. It's really a case of following the evidence. I think that's the case for everyone here.

I supported the McCanns for almost 11 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...I think people have just made their mind up and will do anything they can to make it fit in their mind that these parents are to blame.

No. It's really a case of following the evidence. I think that's the case for everyone here.

I supported the McCanns for almost 11 years."

The point is a lot of the "evidence" the Portuguese police claim to have has now been completely disproved. Most of what people think they know is based on assumption and misinformation.

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By *anana JoeMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"So most of the people here think the parents are guilty....why after so many years are they not convicted?"

Not only that they have never been charged and that would have been an easy option for the Portuguese authorities.

But im guessing they haven't because they are not guilty and people with more knowledge the the fab mafia came to that conclusion.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"I don't understand the people on this thread, they're saying that at the very least the parents should be done for neglect.

Even if they had left the child unattended it doesn't mean they deserve to have a child abducted.

It doesn't mean they deserve for a child to be abducted ( assuming she was ) but it was still neglect of their children.

Sara Paynes was a different case altogether, she was with her older siblings ( not a bunch of friends ) when it happened. She wasn't left to her own devices as a three year old in a holiday apartment with two younger siblings while the parents were out socialising. There is no comparison with what you are saying

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over a year ago

"Ive met gerry mcgann he was senior consultant on the hospital ward my dad was on. He has that same eery cold look on his face in real life as he does on the screen

He treated my grandma.

I think the parents are guilty and behave that way psychologicly.

I've analized the mother's behaviour and it's all fake.

It feels obvious to me that they had a part in it. They are really wierd people and everything they were up to seems satanic and wierd.

I can't prove this but there are plenty of people who psych analized them and see the inconsistency in the parents."

Analysed her behaviour how?

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over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles."

Would you prefer them to be laughing and smiling then ? Im sure if they were seen to be laughing and smiling there would be lots of critisism of them for looking happy !!

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over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles. Maybe the quilt they have to live with x

Exactly or to get sympathy points from the public.

How exactly do you expect parents to look you have a missing child?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles.

Would you prefer them to be laughing and smiling then ? Im sure if they were seen to be laughing and smiling there would be lots of critisism of them for looking happy !!"

I'm sure I read somewhere that they were laughing and smiling while jogging and playing tennis when they should have been looking for her.

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

While I understand people want to know and it should keep being highlighted. There is a chance she's still out there.

What about the other children that have gone missing never to be found. They haven't had the sort of money this case has had thrown at them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles.

Would you prefer them to be laughing and smiling then ? Im sure if they were seen to be laughing and smiling there would be lots of critisism of them for looking happy !!

I'm sure I read somewhere that they were laughing and smiling while jogging and playing tennis when they should have been looking for her."

So whatever they do they get critisised !!!

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

Just watching it now

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"Just watching it now

Me too

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles.

Would you prefer them to be laughing and smiling then ? Im sure if they were seen to be laughing and smiling there would be lots of critisism of them for looking happy !!

I'm sure I read somewhere that they were laughing and smiling while jogging and playing tennis when they should have been looking for her.

So whatever they do they get critisised !!!"

It was days after her disappearance.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles.

Would you prefer them to be laughing and smiling then ? Im sure if they were seen to be laughing and smiling there would be lots of critisism of them for looking happy !!

I'm sure I read somewhere that they were laughing and smiling while jogging and playing tennis when they should have been looking for her.

So whatever they do they get critisised !!!

It was days after her disappearance. "

I doubt that happened

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles.

Would you prefer them to be laughing and smiling then ? Im sure if they were seen to be laughing and smiling there would be lots of critisism of them for looking happy !!

I'm sure I read somewhere that they were laughing and smiling while jogging and playing tennis when they should have been looking for her.

So whatever they do they get critisised !!!

It was days after her disappearance. "

Do you think if they'd killed her, they'd be smiling? They've been criticised by other people for being too miserable,so which is it?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles.

Would you prefer them to be laughing and smiling then ? Im sure if they were seen to be laughing and smiling there would be lots of critisism of them for looking happy !!

I'm sure I read somewhere that they were laughing and smiling while jogging and playing tennis when they should have been looking for her.

So whatever they do they get critisised !!!

It was days after her disappearance.

I doubt that happened "

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/gerry-mccann-played-tennis-days-after-madeleine-disappeared-6663044.html

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By *hrobbermanMan
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

There was no evidence of any abduction.

Sniffer dogs with 100% accuracy detected that there had been a body in the holiday apartment. And the two dogs (Eddie and Keela) also reacted similarly to the hire car the McCanns used.

It stinks.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles.

Would you prefer them to be laughing and smiling then ? Im sure if they were seen to be laughing and smiling there would be lots of critisism of them for looking happy !!

I'm sure I read somewhere that they were laughing and smiling while jogging and playing tennis when they should have been looking for her.

So whatever they do they get critisised !!!

It was days after her disappearance.

I doubt that happened "

Google for madeleine mccann 4th birthday, you will see the pics. She went missing on the 3rd of May and her birthday is on the 12th of May

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles.

Would you prefer them to be laughing and smiling then ? Im sure if they were seen to be laughing and smiling there would be lots of critisism of them for looking happy !!

I'm sure I read somewhere that they were laughing and smiling while jogging and playing tennis when they should have been looking for her.

So whatever they do they get critisised !!!

It was days after her disappearance.

Do you think if they'd killed her, they'd be smiling? They've been criticised by other people for being too miserable,so which is it? "

All I know is that they look pretty dodgy. Looking sad one minute and looking happy the next.

I swear, if I had a kid who went missing, I would do whatever it takes to help find my kid even if it means quitting my job.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

"I can't stand the sight of those pair.

You would think they would just keep their heads down.

I know how you feel. They always look so dismally depressed in the papers and online articles.

Would you prefer them to be laughing and smiling then ? Im sure if they were seen to be laughing and smiling there would be lots of critisism of them for looking happy !!

I'm sure I read somewhere that they were laughing and smiling while jogging and playing tennis when they should have been looking for her.

So whatever they do they get critisised !!!

It was days after her disappearance.

I doubt that happened

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/gerry-mccann-played-tennis-days-after-madeleine-disappeared-6663044.html"

"In an allegation"

Like I said I doubt that happened

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I just watched Madeleine McCann on Netflix.

Which means I did a better job than Gerry and Kate.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Google for madeleine mccann 4th birthday, you will see the pics. She went missing on the 3rd of May and her birthday is on the 12th of May..he could be thinking of them laughing then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Won't be watching this...I find the pair of them infuriating...you do not under any circumstances leave your children alone in a hotel room whilst you fuck off for food or whatever it is that they done,in a foreign country aswell which is even more dangerous.

It beggers belief that they were allowed to keep the other children.

How these two arseholes keep getting attention is wrong,there are lots of missing children who will never be found and parents with alot less money who can't afford private investigators etc etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'll wager you get a better investigation on Rich Planet Tv as he has been to Portugal three times and produced many videos based on real evidence and testimony."

I have watched a couple of episodes and it is utter dross, most of it is people talking about how Playa de Luge or whatever it's called has been affected by this case. Also a lot of moaning about inactivity by the GRN (Police) but they do not consider a missing child to be an abduction without some proof.

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over a year ago

"I'll wager you get a better investigation on Rich Planet Tv as he has been to Portugal three times and produced many videos based on real evidence and testimony.

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