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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. I’m not a lover of labels in society generally anyway. What am I then? I see being bisexual as liking sex with both men and women equally. I don’t. I sometimes have fun with women but I could never ever “be” with a woman, I much prefer men. I don’t even really like kissing women, it’s purely a physical thing whereas it’s totally different with men. I can’t be bicurious apparently because that means you like the idea but haven’t tried it. " There should be a ‘bi-play’ option | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. I’m not a lover of labels in society generally anyway. What am I then? I see being bisexual as liking sex with both men and women equally. I don’t. I sometimes have fun with women but I could never ever “be” with a woman, I much prefer men. I don’t even really like kissing women, it’s purely a physical thing whereas it’s totally different with men. I can’t be bicurious apparently because that means you like the idea but haven’t tried it. There should be a ‘bi-play’ option " Or a "situationally-sexual" | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. I’m not a lover of labels in society generally anyway. What am I then? I see being bisexual as liking sex with both men and women equally. I don’t. I sometimes have fun with women but I could never ever “be” with a woman, I much prefer men. I don’t even really like kissing women, it’s purely a physical thing whereas it’s totally different with men. I can’t be bicurious apparently because that means you like the idea but haven’t tried it. There should be a ‘bi-play’ option " Yeah I think there should on here. A lot of men say the same I’ve found. They wouldn’t have sex with a man but in a threesome situation things can happen. I think there has to be a bit of “bi” something there though if you are willing to play with the same sex at all. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality." Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead?" No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know? | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know?" You would know because of the label, which once again I'll say is important and should be accurate. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know? You would know because of the label, which once again I'll say is important and should be accurate." Of course it should but by not being comparable I mean you wouldn’t know. No matter what someone put as their sexuality how would anyone know for sure? Whereas height, age etc would be obvious. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know? You would know because of the label, which once again I'll say is important and should be accurate. Of course it should but by not being comparable I mean you wouldn’t know. No matter what someone put as their sexuality how would anyone know for sure? Whereas height, age etc would be obvious. " How would you know a guy is 5'10 and not 5'11. It's still a lie, maybe you're 5'11 yourself and would never want to date someone shorter so he wasted your time. Age isn't obvious by any means, I many times have been wrong about guessing people's age by as much as 20 years. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know? You would know because of the label, which once again I'll say is important and should be accurate. Of course it should but by not being comparable I mean you wouldn’t know. No matter what someone put as their sexuality how would anyone know for sure? Whereas height, age etc would be obvious. How would you know a guy is 5'10 and not 5'11. It's still a lie, maybe you're 5'11 yourself and would never want to date someone shorter so he wasted your time. Age isn't obvious by any means, I many times have been wrong about guessing people's age by as much as 20 years." Im not talking about an inch! Your example was 5’6” and 6’2”! I’m saying they wouldn’t get away with that kind of lie. And if you can’t tell the difference in someone’s age does it really matter anyway? People will always lie about things they can get away with especially on here. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. " | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know? You would know because of the label, which once again I'll say is important and should be accurate. Of course it should but by not being comparable I mean you wouldn’t know. No matter what someone put as their sexuality how would anyone know for sure? Whereas height, age etc would be obvious. How would you know a guy is 5'10 and not 5'11. It's still a lie, maybe you're 5'11 yourself and would never want to date someone shorter so he wasted your time. Age isn't obvious by any means, I many times have been wrong about guessing people's age by as much as 20 years. Im not talking about an inch! Your example was 5’6” and 6’2”! I’m saying they wouldn’t get away with that kind of lie. And if you can’t tell the difference in someone’s age does it really matter anyway? People will always lie about things they can get away with especially on here. " I’ve got bicurious on my profile so in your book I’m a liar. I don’t see myself as bisexual though. So what do you want me to put? | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know? You would know because of the label, which once again I'll say is important and should be accurate. Of course it should but by not being comparable I mean you wouldn’t know. No matter what someone put as their sexuality how would anyone know for sure? Whereas height, age etc would be obvious. How would you know a guy is 5'10 and not 5'11. It's still a lie, maybe you're 5'11 yourself and would never want to date someone shorter so he wasted your time. Age isn't obvious by any means, I many times have been wrong about guessing people's age by as much as 20 years. Im not talking about an inch! Your example was 5’6” and 6’2”! I’m saying they wouldn’t get away with that kind of lie. And if you can’t tell the difference in someone’s age does it really matter anyway? People will always lie about things they can get away with especially on here. " And then I gave another example that is also perfectly adequate. Yes it does matter what age you're, because some people may not want to sleep with people younger/older than their siblings. They could have 100's of different reasons not to, so their choice should be respected. I'm not saying people will stop lying, I'm saying lying or misinformation should not be seen as acceptable just because it may seem sensitive for some group of people to talk about it. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. I’m not a lover of labels in society generally anyway. What am I then? I see being bisexual as liking sex with both men and women equally. I don’t. I sometimes have fun with women but I could never ever “be” with a woman, I much prefer men. I don’t even really like kissing women, it’s purely a physical thing whereas it’s totally different with men. I can’t be bicurious apparently because that means you like the idea but haven’t tried it. There should be a ‘bi-play’ option " | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know? You would know because of the label, which once again I'll say is important and should be accurate. Of course it should but by not being comparable I mean you wouldn’t know. No matter what someone put as their sexuality how would anyone know for sure? Whereas height, age etc would be obvious. How would you know a guy is 5'10 and not 5'11. It's still a lie, maybe you're 5'11 yourself and would never want to date someone shorter so he wasted your time. Age isn't obvious by any means, I many times have been wrong about guessing people's age by as much as 20 years. Im not talking about an inch! Your example was 5’6” and 6’2”! I’m saying they wouldn’t get away with that kind of lie. And if you can’t tell the difference in someone’s age does it really matter anyway? People will always lie about things they can get away with especially on here. And then I gave another example that is also perfectly adequate. Yes it does matter what age you're, because some people may not want to sleep with people younger/older than their siblings. They could have 100's of different reasons not to, so their choice should be respected. I'm not saying people will stop lying, I'm saying lying or misinformation should not be seen as acceptable just because it may seem sensitive for some group of people to talk about it." Preaching to the choir. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. " Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully." Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know? You would know because of the label, which once again I'll say is important and should be accurate. Of course it should but by not being comparable I mean you wouldn’t know. No matter what someone put as their sexuality how would anyone know for sure? Whereas height, age etc would be obvious. How would you know a guy is 5'10 and not 5'11. It's still a lie, maybe you're 5'11 yourself and would never want to date someone shorter so he wasted your time. Age isn't obvious by any means, I many times have been wrong about guessing people's age by as much as 20 years. Im not talking about an inch! Your example was 5’6” and 6’2”! I’m saying they wouldn’t get away with that kind of lie. And if you can’t tell the difference in someone’s age does it really matter anyway? People will always lie about things they can get away with especially on here. And then I gave another example that is also perfectly adequate. Yes it does matter what age you're, because some people may not want to sleep with people younger/older than their siblings. They could have 100's of different reasons not to, so their choice should be respected. I'm not saying people will stop lying, I'm saying lying or misinformation should not be seen as acceptable just because it may seem sensitive for some group of people to talk about it." I presume you mean children rather than siblings. Yes I agree totally. I’m just saying it’s easy to lie about that kind of thing. I’ve got myself down as curvy but I’m a size 16 so should I be ample instead? But I go to the gym 3 times a week so why can’t I be athletic? It’s too difficult on here. You can be accused of lying when you don’t even intend to! | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. " Exactly! Straight is the easy one | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know? You would know because of the label, which once again I'll say is important and should be accurate. Of course it should but by not being comparable I mean you wouldn’t know. No matter what someone put as their sexuality how would anyone know for sure? Whereas height, age etc would be obvious. How would you know a guy is 5'10 and not 5'11. It's still a lie, maybe you're 5'11 yourself and would never want to date someone shorter so he wasted your time. Age isn't obvious by any means, I many times have been wrong about guessing people's age by as much as 20 years. Im not talking about an inch! Your example was 5’6” and 6’2”! I’m saying they wouldn’t get away with that kind of lie. And if you can’t tell the difference in someone’s age does it really matter anyway? People will always lie about things they can get away with especially on here. And then I gave another example that is also perfectly adequate. Yes it does matter what age you're, because some people may not want to sleep with people younger/older than their siblings. They could have 100's of different reasons not to, so their choice should be respected. I'm not saying people will stop lying, I'm saying lying or misinformation should not be seen as acceptable just because it may seem sensitive for some group of people to talk about it." A group of individuals lying about different things or a specific group? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. " Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. " No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know? You would know because of the label, which once again I'll say is important and should be accurate. Of course it should but by not being comparable I mean you wouldn’t know. No matter what someone put as their sexuality how would anyone know for sure? Whereas height, age etc would be obvious. How would you know a guy is 5'10 and not 5'11. It's still a lie, maybe you're 5'11 yourself and would never want to date someone shorter so he wasted your time. Age isn't obvious by any means, I many times have been wrong about guessing people's age by as much as 20 years. Im not talking about an inch! Your example was 5’6” and 6’2”! I’m saying they wouldn’t get away with that kind of lie. And if you can’t tell the difference in someone’s age does it really matter anyway? People will always lie about things they can get away with especially on here. And then I gave another example that is also perfectly adequate. Yes it does matter what age you're, because some people may not want to sleep with people younger/older than their siblings. They could have 100's of different reasons not to, so their choice should be respected. I'm not saying people will stop lying, I'm saying lying or misinformation should not be seen as acceptable just because it may seem sensitive for some group of people to talk about it. I presume you mean children rather than siblings. Yes I agree totally. I’m just saying it’s easy to lie about that kind of thing. I’ve got myself down as curvy but I’m a size 16 so should I be ample instead? But I go to the gym 3 times a week so why can’t I be athletic? It’s too difficult on here. You can be accused of lying when you don’t even intend to!" By siblings I meant siblings, if I meant children I would have said children. I'm not a parent so saying children doesn't apply to me. You're talking about labels that don't have clear definitions. Straight is a clear definition. Woman is a clear definition, Man is a clear definition, MTF/FTM is a clear definition, etc. This thread is more about having those labels, rather than just people lying about them. Labels are important is my primary point I'm trying to get across. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. " Don’t get me wrong I’ve no time for all this lefty crying because someone labelled you wrongly rubbish and the 50 thousand different genders to choose from now, I’m just saying unless you’re straight it’s difficult to define. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m finding myself sitting on the fence for the second time today! I don’t think you can compare lying about height to lying about sexuality. Why not, both examples are stretching the truth, you're posing as something you are not. What about age, people often say you're the age you feel, a case of grown men identifying as a teenager was in the news where I live. He was adopted by a family too apparently. Should we also accept that as ok and not question his label? What if committed a crime, does he go to juvi instead? No I mean on here. I’m not saying it’s right to do so but you would know instantly if someone was 6 inches shorter than they said they were. Whereas if a man said he was straight but was actually bisexual how would I know? You would know because of the label, which once again I'll say is important and should be accurate. Of course it should but by not being comparable I mean you wouldn’t know. No matter what someone put as their sexuality how would anyone know for sure? Whereas height, age etc would be obvious. How would you know a guy is 5'10 and not 5'11. It's still a lie, maybe you're 5'11 yourself and would never want to date someone shorter so he wasted your time. Age isn't obvious by any means, I many times have been wrong about guessing people's age by as much as 20 years. Im not talking about an inch! Your example was 5’6” and 6’2”! I’m saying they wouldn’t get away with that kind of lie. And if you can’t tell the difference in someone’s age does it really matter anyway? People will always lie about things they can get away with especially on here. And then I gave another example that is also perfectly adequate. Yes it does matter what age you're, because some people may not want to sleep with people younger/older than their siblings. They could have 100's of different reasons not to, so their choice should be respected. I'm not saying people will stop lying, I'm saying lying or misinformation should not be seen as acceptable just because it may seem sensitive for some group of people to talk about it. I presume you mean children rather than siblings. Yes I agree totally. I’m just saying it’s easy to lie about that kind of thing. I’ve got myself down as curvy but I’m a size 16 so should I be ample instead? But I go to the gym 3 times a week so why can’t I be athletic? It’s too difficult on here. You can be accused of lying when you don’t even intend to! By siblings I meant siblings, if I meant children I would have said children. I'm not a parent so saying children doesn't apply to me. You're talking about labels that don't have clear definitions. Straight is a clear definition. Woman is a clear definition, Man is a clear definition, MTF/FTM is a clear definition, etc. This thread is more about having those labels, rather than just people lying about them. Labels are important is my primary point I'm trying to get across." Ok. I don’t think you did but fair enough. Why wouldn’t someone not want to sleep with someone the same age as their brother or sister?  . | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. " True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not." Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? " To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak." m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. | |||
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" Ok. I don’t think you did but fair enough. Why wouldn’t someone not want to sleep with someone the same age as their brother or sister? .
Awesome another example of a forum person trying to assume what I did or did not think, last time it happened I got called a fucking wanker in PM's because of the way my words were twisted on the thread I started.
Because they might not want to the same reason others don't sleep with people their children's age, your reason is no more valid than mine."How have I twisted your words? I don’t call people fucking wankers. I was just having a friendly debate, I can understand not wanting to sleep with someone your child’s age but not your sibling. Perfectly normal question as to why you wouldn’t I’d say! I’m not getting into arguments with you. Goodnight | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.." Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple." So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual?" Yeah not rocket science. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science."Clearly. You're off the mark. One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. | |||
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" Ok. I don’t think you did but fair enough. Why wouldn’t someone not want to sleep with someone the same age as their brother or sister? .
Awesome another example of a forum person trying to assume what I did or did not think, last time it happened I got called a fucking wanker in PM's because of the way my words were twisted on the thread I started.
Because they might not want to the same reason others don't sleep with people their children's age, your reason is no more valid than mine.
How have I twisted your words? I don’t call people fucking wankers. I was just having a friendly debate, I can understand not wanting to sleep with someone your child’s age but not your sibling. Perfectly normal question as to why you wouldn’t I’d say!
I’m not getting into arguments with you.
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation."Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here. | |||
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"Has this post got history attached to it?" Nope, I'm sick of people getting shit and being portrayed as bullies when specifics labels are involved but it's perfectly ok to criticize other labels such as age, height etc. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here. "This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. "In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science."That would make me bisexual and I'm far from it. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be."just speak for yourself.. is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion? "Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual."What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference? "Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?"For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future... | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future... "Then he's not straight. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight."But what is he in your opinion? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion? "Biplayful, bisexual I don't know. I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion? "Bisexuality is based on doing things bisexual like having sex with the same sex. The dictionary is helpful. People might not like it after trying but there still must be a bisexual part of them unless they were coerced. For women, bisexuality isn't as extreme. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion? Bisexuality is based on doing things bisexual like having sex with the same sex. The dictionary is helpful. People might not like it after trying but there still must be a bisexual part of them unless they were coerced. For women, bisexuality isn't as extreme."You’re seeing things in black and white, when there are subtle shades of grey too. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important."But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion? Bisexuality is based on doing things bisexual like having sex with the same sex. The dictionary is helpful. People might not like it after trying but there still must be a bisexual part of them unless they were coerced. For women, bisexuality isn't as extreme."How is it different for women?? Makes no sense. In your eyes anyone who has performed an act on the same sex is bisexual and should declare that to all future partners?? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!? "Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion? Bisexuality is based on doing things bisexual like having sex with the same sex. The dictionary is helpful. People might not like it after trying but there still must be a bisexual part of them unless they were coerced. For women, bisexuality isn't as extreme.
How is it different for women?? Makes no sense.
In your eyes anyone who has performed an act on the same sex is bisexual and should declare that to all future partners?? "It is obviously, why such stigma against bi men on here then compared to bi women? Well they are no longer Straight in my book. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!?
Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people."So it's not bisexual if it's a threesome but is if its one on one? Does this apply to oral? If a man gets his dick sucked by another man he's bi? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion? Bisexuality is based on doing things bisexual like having sex with the same sex. The dictionary is helpful. People might not like it after trying but there still must be a bisexual part of them unless they were coerced. For women, bisexuality isn't as extreme.
How is it different for women?? Makes no sense.
In your eyes anyone who has performed an act on the same sex is bisexual and should declare that to all future partners?? It is obviously, why such stigma against bi men on here then compared to bi women? Well they are no longer Straight in my book."I think the key phrase here is 'in your book' You're mistaking a point of view for fact. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion? Bisexuality is based on doing things bisexual like having sex with the same sex. The dictionary is helpful. People might not like it after trying but there still must be a bisexual part of them unless they were coerced. For women, bisexuality isn't as extreme.
How is it different for women?? Makes no sense.
In your eyes anyone who has performed an act on the same sex is bisexual and should declare that to all future partners?? It is obviously, why such stigma against bi men on here then compared to bi women? Well they are no longer Straight in my book.
I think the key phrase here is 'in your book'
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion? Bisexuality is based on doing things bisexual like having sex with the same sex. The dictionary is helpful. People might not like it after trying but there still must be a bisexual part of them unless they were coerced. For women, bisexuality isn't as extreme.
How is it different for women?? Makes no sense.
In your eyes anyone who has performed an act on the same sex is bisexual and should declare that to all future partners?? It is obviously, why such stigma against bi men on here then compared to bi women? Well they are no longer Straight in my book.
I think the key phrase here is 'in your book'
You're mistaking a point of view for fact. Mine and a landslide majority probably."You always refer to the invisible masses when talking nonsense. Funnily enough they never appear. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!?
Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people.
So it's not bisexual if it's a threesome but is if its one on one?
Does this apply to oral? If a man gets his dick sucked by another man he's bi? "I knew that paragraph will most likely be misunderstood. One guy, two women. The guy is still not bisexual but the threesome is, because the women are bisexual. If it's two guys, one woman, and two guys play with each other, they're bisexual. If it's two guys, one woman, the guys don't play with each other, they're still straight. Yes oral bi is still bi. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected." The way I see it is when meeting someone especially off a site like this if you have very strong preferences then you might well come unstuck as no one is obliged to tell you the truth. Also, isn’t there a degree of when you’re first finding about someone that personal things are kept back and revealed over time? And if preferences that are discovered aren’t mutual is then the time to have the talk or call it a day? However if you know upfront and carry on meeting regardless then that’s just plain deceitful. Not sure if this has any relevance whatsoever to what you’re talking about on this thread! | |||
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"I know. It's perfectly acceptable for me to have straight on my profile, even though I've given oral to a woman and enjoyed it. I may even do it again some day." That's a lie though isn't it, because you're not straight if you've done it and open to do it again. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!?
Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people.
So it's not bisexual if it's a threesome but is if its one on one?
Does this apply to oral? If a man gets his dick sucked by another man he's bi?
I knew that paragraph will most likely be misunderstood.
One guy, two women. The guy is still not bisexual but the threesome is, because the women are bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, and two guys play with each other, they're bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, the guys don't play with each other, they're still straight.
Yes oral bi is still bi."Even if it's a first experience likely to not be repeated and with no sexual attraction? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion? Bisexuality is based on doing things bisexual like having sex with the same sex. The dictionary is helpful. People might not like it after trying but there still must be a bisexual part of them unless they were coerced. For women, bisexuality isn't as extreme.
How is it different for women?? Makes no sense.
In your eyes anyone who has performed an act on the same sex is bisexual and should declare that to all future partners?? It is obviously, why such stigma against bi men on here then compared to bi women? Well they are no longer Straight in my book.
I think the key phrase here is 'in your book'
You're mistaking a point of view for fact. Mine and a landslide majority probably.
You always refer to the invisible masses when talking nonsense. Funnily enough they never appear. "Because some people are mental and deluded on here it's fantasy land. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion? Bisexuality is based on doing things bisexual like having sex with the same sex. The dictionary is helpful. People might not like it after trying but there still must be a bisexual part of them unless they were coerced. For women, bisexuality isn't as extreme.
How is it different for women?? Makes no sense.
In your eyes anyone who has performed an act on the same sex is bisexual and should declare that to all future partners?? It is obviously, why such stigma against bi men on here then compared to bi women? Well they are no longer Straight in my book.
I think the key phrase here is 'in your book'
You're mistaking a point of view for fact. Mine and a landslide majority probably.
You always refer to the invisible masses when talking nonsense. Funnily enough they never appear. Because some people are mental and deluded on here it's fantasy land. "In your very straight opinion... please own your comments mr blonde. Who mental and deluded? Me or your landslide majority mates? | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. The way I see it is when meeting someone especially off a site like this if you have very strong preferences then you might well come unstuck as no one is obliged to tell you the truth. Also, isn’t there a degree of when you’re first finding about someone that personal things are kept back and revealed over time? And if preferences that are discovered aren’t mutual is then the time to have the talk or call it a day? However if you know upfront and carry on meeting regardless then that’s just plain deceitful. Not sure if this has any relevance whatsoever to what you’re talking about on this thread! " My primary point is that labels are acceptable and people shouldn't be called names just because others view labeling as wrongful. I won't go into details because all that does is simply derails my original point. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!?
Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people.
So it's not bisexual if it's a threesome but is if its one on one?
Does this apply to oral? If a man gets his dick sucked by another man he's bi?
I knew that paragraph will most likely be misunderstood.
One guy, two women. The guy is still not bisexual but the threesome is, because the women are bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, and two guys play with each other, they're bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, the guys don't play with each other, they're still straight.
Yes oral bi is still bi.
Even if it's a first experience likely to not be repeated and with no sexual attraction? "Let me clarify this in simple yes or no. Are you straight? Yes or no. Have you taken part in [non straight] sexual activities? Yes or no. Once again, are you straight? Yes or no. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected." If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!?
Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people.
So it's not bisexual if it's a threesome but is if its one on one?
Does this apply to oral? If a man gets his dick sucked by another man he's bi?
I knew that paragraph will most likely be misunderstood.
One guy, two women. The guy is still not bisexual but the threesome is, because the women are bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, and two guys play with each other, they're bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, the guys don't play with each other, they're still straight.
Yes oral bi is still bi.
Even if it's a first experience likely to not be repeated and with no sexual attraction?
Let me clarify this in simple yes or no.
Are you straight?
Yes or no.
Have you taken part in [non straight] sexual activities?
Yes or no.
Once again, are you straight?
Yes or no."And here's the problem.. it's not the labelling that's the issue it's the definition.. others idea of what I am versus what I know I am. My response is a solid yes, yes and yes. There's my label. But someone else disagrees so who's right? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!?
Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people.
So it's not bisexual if it's a threesome but is if its one on one?
Does this apply to oral? If a man gets his dick sucked by another man he's bi?
I knew that paragraph will most likely be misunderstood.
One guy, two women. The guy is still not bisexual but the threesome is, because the women are bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, and two guys play with each other, they're bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, the guys don't play with each other, they're still straight.
Yes oral bi is still bi.
Even if it's a first experience likely to not be repeated and with no sexual attraction?
Let me clarify this in simple yes or no.
Are you straight?
Yes or no.
Have you taken part in [non straight] sexual activities?
Yes or no.
Once again, are you straight?
Yes or no.
And here's the problem.. it's not the labelling that's the issue it's the definition.. others idea of what I am versus what I know I am. My response is a solid yes, yes and yes. There's my label. But someone else disagrees so who's right? "The definition is pretty clear. Only because people don't want to accept what it stands for doesn't make it grey. You're either straight or you're not. Straight people don't sleep with same sex people, that is what makes them straight, period. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? " If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!?
Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people.
So it's not bisexual if it's a threesome but is if its one on one?
Does this apply to oral? If a man gets his dick sucked by another man he's bi?
I knew that paragraph will most likely be misunderstood.
One guy, two women. The guy is still not bisexual but the threesome is, because the women are bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, and two guys play with each other, they're bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, the guys don't play with each other, they're still straight.
Yes oral bi is still bi.
Even if it's a first experience likely to not be repeated and with no sexual attraction?
Let me clarify this in simple yes or no.
Are you straight?
Yes or no.
Have you taken part in [non straight] sexual activities?
Yes or no.
Once again, are you straight?
Yes or no.
And here's the problem.. it's not the labelling that's the issue it's the definition.. others idea of what I am versus what I know I am. My response is a solid yes, yes and yes. There's my label. But someone else disagrees so who's right?
The definition is pretty clear. Only because people don't want to accept what it stands for doesn't make it grey.
You're either straight or you're not.
Straight people don't sleep with same sex people, that is what makes them straight, period."I disagree.. there are straight thought about it but not had the chance to try.. straight would never consider it.. i think there's way more shades than simple boxes. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask." I seriously doubt it tbh. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!?
Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people.
So it's not bisexual if it's a threesome but is if its one on one?
Does this apply to oral? If a man gets his dick sucked by another man he's bi?
I knew that paragraph will most likely be misunderstood.
One guy, two women. The guy is still not bisexual but the threesome is, because the women are bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, and two guys play with each other, they're bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, the guys don't play with each other, they're still straight.
Yes oral bi is still bi.
Even if it's a first experience likely to not be repeated and with no sexual attraction?
Let me clarify this in simple yes or no.
Are you straight?
Yes or no.
Have you taken part in [non straight] sexual activities?
Yes or no.
Once again, are you straight?
Yes or no.
And here's the problem.. it's not the labelling that's the issue it's the definition.. others idea of what I am versus what I know I am. My response is a solid yes, yes and yes. There's my label. But someone else disagrees so who's right?
The definition is pretty clear. Only because people don't want to accept what it stands for doesn't make it grey.
You're either straight or you're not.
Straight people don't sleep with same sex people, that is what makes them straight, period.
I disagree.. there are straight thought about it but not had the chance to try.. straight would never consider it.. i think there's way more shades than simple boxes. "So because you don't accept the straight definition I now have to define as Exclusively straight or Super straight just to make my sexuality distinct from yours? Then you would complain and say that you identify as super straight as well and we would end up in a loop. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask. I seriously doubt it tbh. " Ok, good for you, I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm saying is respect peoples choice, surely that's not much to ask for. | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!?
Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people.
So it's not bisexual if it's a threesome but is if its one on one?
Does this apply to oral? If a man gets his dick sucked by another man he's bi?
I knew that paragraph will most likely be misunderstood.
One guy, two women. The guy is still not bisexual but the threesome is, because the women are bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, and two guys play with each other, they're bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, the guys don't play with each other, they're still straight.
Yes oral bi is still bi.
Even if it's a first experience likely to not be repeated and with no sexual attraction?
Let me clarify this in simple yes or no.
Are you straight?
Yes or no.
Have you taken part in [non straight] sexual activities?
Yes or no.
Once again, are you straight?
Yes or no.
And here's the problem.. it's not the labelling that's the issue it's the definition.. others idea of what I am versus what I know I am. My response is a solid yes, yes and yes. There's my label. But someone else disagrees so who's right?
The definition is pretty clear. Only because people don't want to accept what it stands for doesn't make it grey.
You're either straight or you're not.
Straight people don't sleep with same sex people, that is what makes them straight, period.
I disagree.. there are straight thought about it but not had the chance to try.. straight would never consider it.. i think there's way more shades than simple boxes.
So because you don't accept the straight definition I now have to define as Exclusively straight or Super straight just to make my sexuality distinct from yours? Then you would complain and say that you identify as super straight as well and we would end up in a loop."This is my point.. I know how I identify. You know how you identify. Should we have to accept another persons opinion as our label even though we know how we feel? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!?
Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people.
So it's not bisexual if it's a threesome but is if its one on one?
Does this apply to oral? If a man gets his dick sucked by another man he's bi?
I knew that paragraph will most likely be misunderstood.
One guy, two women. The guy is still not bisexual but the threesome is, because the women are bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, and two guys play with each other, they're bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, the guys don't play with each other, they're still straight.
Yes oral bi is still bi.
Even if it's a first experience likely to not be repeated and with no sexual attraction?
Let me clarify this in simple yes or no.
Are you straight?
Yes or no.
Have you taken part in [non straight] sexual activities?
Yes or no.
Once again, are you straight?
Yes or no.
And here's the problem.. it's not the labelling that's the issue it's the definition.. others idea of what I am versus what I know I am. My response is a solid yes, yes and yes. There's my label. But someone else disagrees so who's right?
The definition is pretty clear. Only because people don't want to accept what it stands for doesn't make it grey.
You're either straight or you're not.
Straight people don't sleep with same sex people, that is what makes them straight, period.
I disagree.. there are straight thought about it but not had the chance to try.. straight would never consider it.. i think there's way more shades than simple boxes.
So because you don't accept the straight definition I now have to define as Exclusively straight or Super straight just to make my sexuality distinct from yours? Then you would complain and say that you identify as super straight as well and we would end up in a loop.
This is my point.. I know how I identify. You know how you identify. Should we have to accept another persons opinion as our label even though we know how we feel? "But the label has a definition... You're changing it, I'm defining it. How is this so difficult to understand... If there's a cat walking on the road but you call it a dog, it's still a cat by definition. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask. I seriously doubt it tbh. Ok, good for you, I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm saying is respect peoples choice, surely that's not much to ask for." Sure. It's a discussion, nothing more. If someone who used to enjoy meat became a vegetarian, would you now call them a vegetarian or a meat eater? | |||
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"If this thread is about sexuality again then straight, bicurious or bisexual simply doesn't cut it. The lines are much more fluid than trying to cram people into one of 3 boxes which has a lot to do with people not knowing how to describe themselves without writing a big explanation of all their thoughts, experiences and fantasies. Straight = Only attracted and having relationships with opposite gender. There is no grey line in there, it's that simple. However we suddenly say that label is not acceptable and if you use labels, you're transphobic, homophobic, racist or whatever else there is to make you seem like a bully. Not at all.. straight is the easy one.. everything else is the individuals interpretation. Generally explained better individually rather than a simple one word box. Straight and Gay/Lesbian have clear definitions, but it seems using the term straight is not acceptable as it's considered labeling and therefore hurtful to communities who identify as straight even though they engage in homosexual acts. No the grey area is everything bi.. as in bi play, bi tried and didn't like, bi wondering whether to or not.. loads of things. You could have tried the same sex in some way but identify as straight. There's lots and lots of reasons why people struggle to identify. True, but if you're scissoring with a woman just for pure sensation of the act and no attraction to the gender, don't class yourself as straight, because you're not. Says who? what if it's the first experience? What if it's never repeated? To clarify my post mean that you're doing it for the sensation of the act (ongoing, not one off). If you've had a one off, then you've experimented so to speak.m So how does someone label that if they've had one experience but would never say never? It's incredibly hard to label that without feeling like you have to provide a full sexual cv.. Easy, bi curious for thinking and bi for doing. It's pretty simple. So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Clearly. You're off the mark.
One sexual act doesn't define your orientation. Well that is more than curious isn't it. People trying to change the definition of words all the time on here.
This is the point.. there aren't enough ways to define sexuality in just 4 options. That example is not bisexual. In your opinion it isn't but in a lot of other peoples it would be.
just speak for yourself..
is bisexuality based on an act or an attraction in your opinion?
Act. If you're a guy who sleeps with other guys but doesn't find them attractive, he's still bisexual.
What if it's just once or multiple times? Any difference?
Depends, was it once because he didn't enjoy the experience or because he only has done it once so far?
For this example once because it didn't sexually excite him but it was part of wider play. Not actively looking to repeat but wouldn't rule it out in group circumstances in the future...
Then he's not straight.
But what is he in your opinion?
Biplayful, bisexual I don't know.
I know that he isn't straight and that the label is important.
But if he didn't get excited by it and doesn't know whether it'll ever be repeated and he's still only attracted to females why is he not straight?!?
Because straight people aren't open to having bisexual experiences. And by bisexual experiences I mean them being involved in same sex sexual activities, not a threesome with bisexual people.
So it's not bisexual if it's a threesome but is if its one on one?
Does this apply to oral? If a man gets his dick sucked by another man he's bi?
I knew that paragraph will most likely be misunderstood.
One guy, two women. The guy is still not bisexual but the threesome is, because the women are bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, and two guys play with each other, they're bisexual.
If it's two guys, one woman, the guys don't play with each other, they're still straight.
Yes oral bi is still bi.
Even if it's a first experience likely to not be repeated and with no sexual attraction?
Let me clarify this in simple yes or no.
Are you straight?
Yes or no.
Have you taken part in [non straight] sexual activities?
Yes or no.
Once again, are you straight?
Yes or no.
And here's the problem.. it's not the labelling that's the issue it's the definition.. others idea of what I am versus what I know I am. My response is a solid yes, yes and yes. There's my label. But someone else disagrees so who's right?
The definition is pretty clear. Only because people don't want to accept what it stands for doesn't make it grey.
You're either straight or you're not.
Straight people don't sleep with same sex people, that is what makes them straight, period.
I disagree.. there are straight thought about it but not had the chance to try.. straight would never consider it.. i think there's way more shades than simple boxes.
So because you don't accept the straight definition I now have to define as Exclusively straight or Super straight just to make my sexuality distinct from yours? Then you would complain and say that you identify as super straight as well and we would end up in a loop.
This is my point.. I know how I identify. You know how you identify. Should we have to accept another persons opinion as our label even though we know how we feel?
But the label has a definition...
You're changing it, I'm defining it.
How is this so difficult to understand...
If there's a cat walking on the road but you call it a dog, it's still a cat by definition."I don't believe the number of definitions are enough.. My take is that if sexuality is that important then the adults considering meeting would have a conversation regarding previous partners. Depending on the answers they'd meet or not. For those that aren't bothered no advance info is required. But at this point in time the labels aren't enough to define a person properly. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask. I seriously doubt it tbh. Ok, good for you, I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm saying is respect peoples choice, surely that's not much to ask for. Sure. It's a discussion, nothing more. If someone who used to enjoy meat became a vegetarian, would you now call them a vegetarian or a meat eater? " I would say omnivore, (not sure if that definition only applies to animals though). | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask. I seriously doubt it tbh. Ok, good for you, I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm saying is respect peoples choice, surely that's not much to ask for. Sure. It's a discussion, nothing more. If someone who used to enjoy meat became a vegetarian, would you now call them a vegetarian or a meat eater? I would say omnivore, (not sure if that definition only applies to animals though)." Why wouldn't you call them a vegetarian? They no longer eat meat so omnivore isn't accurate. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask. I seriously doubt it tbh. Ok, good for you, I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm saying is respect peoples choice, surely that's not much to ask for. Sure. It's a discussion, nothing more. If someone who used to enjoy meat became a vegetarian, would you now call them a vegetarian or a meat eater? I would say omnivore, (not sure if that definition only applies to animals though). Why wouldn't you call them a vegetarian? They no longer eat meat so omnivore isn't accurate. " Because they've eaten meat that's why they're aren't vegetarian or at least not pure vegeterians. I understand that you're trying to use a different example to change my viewpoint but only because you've stopped doing something doesn't mean you are a completely different person. A smoker who stops smoking for a day is still a smoker. | |||
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"I know. It's perfectly acceptable for me to have straight on my profile, even though I've given oral to a woman and enjoyed it. I may even do it again some day. That's a lie though isn't it, because you're not straight if you've done it and open to do it again. Yes, although it's unlikely to happen again. I'm not looking to meet women on here so I have straight, in case people get the wrong idea. In real life, if someone asked me if I'm straight, I would say yes, because a couple of licks of a pussy doesn't make me bi. That would be more of a lie and misleading. " Couple licks of a pussy also doesn't make you straight, even more so if you're not denying trying it again in the future. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask. I seriously doubt it tbh. Ok, good for you, I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm saying is respect peoples choice, surely that's not much to ask for. Sure. It's a discussion, nothing more. If someone who used to enjoy meat became a vegetarian, would you now call them a vegetarian or a meat eater? I would say omnivore, (not sure if that definition only applies to animals though). Why wouldn't you call them a vegetarian? They no longer eat meat so omnivore isn't accurate. Because they've eaten meat that's why they're aren't vegetarian or at least not pure vegeterians. I understand that you're trying to use a different example to change my viewpoint but only because you've stopped doing something doesn't mean you are a completely different person. A smoker who stops smoking for a day is still a smoker." So I'm an ex bi woman then. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask. I seriously doubt it tbh. Ok, good for you, I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm saying is respect peoples choice, surely that's not much to ask for. Sure. It's a discussion, nothing more. If someone who used to enjoy meat became a vegetarian, would you now call them a vegetarian or a meat eater? I would say omnivore, (not sure if that definition only applies to animals though). Why wouldn't you call them a vegetarian? They no longer eat meat so omnivore isn't accurate. Because they've eaten meat that's why they're aren't vegetarian or at least not pure vegeterians. I understand that you're trying to use a different example to change my viewpoint but only because you've stopped doing something doesn't mean you are a completely different person. A smoker who stops smoking for a day is still a smoker. So I'm an ex bi woman then." Yes, I think that is far more accurate than using the word straight. | |||
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"I know. It's perfectly acceptable for me to have straight on my profile, even though I've given oral to a woman and enjoyed it. I may even do it again some day. That's a lie though isn't it, because you're not straight if you've done it and open to do it again. Yes, although it's unlikely to happen again. I'm not looking to meet women on here so I have straight, in case people get the wrong idea. In real life, if someone asked me if I'm straight, I would say yes, because a couple of licks of a pussy doesn't make me bi. That would be more of a lie and misleading. Couple licks of a pussy also doesn't make you straight, even more so if you're not denying trying it again in the future." I did say it's highly unlikely I will do it again, but I didn't have any intentions of doing it the first time. I would be lying more if I said I was bi. I'm not attracted to women and I'm only interested in the vulva. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask. I seriously doubt it tbh. Ok, good for you, I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm saying is respect peoples choice, surely that's not much to ask for. Sure. It's a discussion, nothing more. If someone who used to enjoy meat became a vegetarian, would you now call them a vegetarian or a meat eater? I would say omnivore, (not sure if that definition only applies to animals though). Why wouldn't you call them a vegetarian? They no longer eat meat so omnivore isn't accurate. Because they've eaten meat that's why they're aren't vegetarian or at least not pure vegeterians. I understand that you're trying to use a different example to change my viewpoint but only because you've stopped doing something doesn't mean you are a completely different person. A smoker who stops smoking for a day is still a smoker. So I'm an ex bi woman then. Yes, I think that is far more accurate than using the word straight." Imagine a woman saying that to you in conversation. Sound a bit ridiculous to you? | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask. I seriously doubt it tbh. Ok, good for you, I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm saying is respect peoples choice, surely that's not much to ask for. Sure. It's a discussion, nothing more. If someone who used to enjoy meat became a vegetarian, would you now call them a vegetarian or a meat eater? I would say omnivore, (not sure if that definition only applies to animals though). Why wouldn't you call them a vegetarian? They no longer eat meat so omnivore isn't accurate. Because they've eaten meat that's why they're aren't vegetarian or at least not pure vegeterians. I understand that you're trying to use a different example to change my viewpoint but only because you've stopped doing something doesn't mean you are a completely different person. A smoker who stops smoking for a day is still a smoker. So I'm an ex bi woman then. Yes, I think that is far more accurate than using the word straight. Imagine a woman saying that to you in conversation. Sound a bit ridiculous to you?" | |||
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"I know. It's perfectly acceptable for me to have straight on my profile, even though I've given oral to a woman and enjoyed it. I may even do it again some day. That's a lie though isn't it, because you're not straight if you've done it and open to do it again. Yes, although it's unlikely to happen again. I'm not looking to meet women on here so I have straight, in case people get the wrong idea. In real life, if someone asked me if I'm straight, I would say yes, because a couple of licks of a pussy doesn't make me bi. That would be more of a lie and misleading. Couple licks of a pussy also doesn't make you straight, even more so if you're not denying trying it again in the future. I did say it's highly unlikely I will do it again, but I didn't have any intentions of doing it the first time. I would be lying more if I said I was bi. I'm not attracted to women and I'm only interested in the vulva." Well then you're not straight. I don't care what people definition people use as long as they don't try to change the current ones. | |||
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"I'd argue that someone's sexuality is nobody else's business. It is if they're going to have sexual relations with that person. Why? Some women don't want to have sex with bisexual men, their choice should be respected. I may not want to sleep with bisexual women, my choice should be respected. Gay men may not want to sleep with bisexual men. Bisexual women may not want to sleep with other bisexual women. And all the other variations. Their reasons and decisions should be respected. If that's the case, I assume in a club or a one night stand situation they'd ask before any sexual relations took place then? If it was important to them then yes, I would imagine they would ask. I seriously doubt it tbh. Ok, good for you, I'm not here to argue with you. All I'm saying is respect peoples choice, surely that's not much to ask for. Sure. It's a discussion, nothing more. If someone who used to enjoy meat became a vegetarian, would you now call them a vegetarian or a meat eater? I would say omnivore, (not sure if that definition only applies to animals though). Why wouldn't you call them a vegetarian? They no longer eat meat so omnivore isn't accurate. Because they've eaten meat that's why they're aren't vegetarian or at least not pure vegeterians. I understand that you're trying to use a different example to change my viewpoint but only because you've stopped doing something doesn't mean you are a completely different person. A smoker who stops smoking for a day is still a smoker." So a smoker who hasn't smoked in years is still a smoker, like the vegetarian. Makes no sense to me but your view of sexuality makes more sense now. | |||
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"I know. It's perfectly acceptable for me to have straight on my profile, even though I've given oral to a woman and enjoyed it. I may even do it again some day. That's a lie though isn't it, because you're not straight if you've done it and open to do it again. Yes, although it's unlikely to happen again. I'm not looking to meet women on here so I have straight, in case people get the wrong idea. In real life, if someone asked me if I'm straight, I would say yes, because a couple of licks of a pussy doesn't make me bi. That would be more of a lie and misleading. Couple licks of a pussy also doesn't make you straight, even more so if you're not denying trying it again in the future. I did say it's highly unlikely I will do it again, but I didn't have any intentions of doing it the first time. I would be lying more if I said I was bi. I'm not attracted to women and I'm only interested in the vulva. Well then you're not straight. I don't care what people definition people use as long as they don't try to change the current ones." My current sexuality is straight. | |||
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" So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science."Apparently it is rocket science. Your sexual orientation can change as you find things out about yourself. You can be a man who wonders what it's like to get a blow job from another man, try it out, decide you hated it, and never do it again. He wouldn't be bisexual. He's just a man who once tried out getting a blow job to see if he enjoyed it. He's no more a bisexual than I am a rugby player because I tried rugby out once. | |||
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" So if you've had any sexual act with the same sex you think someone's bisexual? Yeah not rocket science.
Apparently it is rocket science.
Your sexual orientation can change as you find things out about yourself. You can be a man who wonders what it's like to get a blow job from another man, try it out, decide you hated it, and never do it again. He wouldn't be bisexual. He's just a man who once tried out getting a blow job to see if he enjoyed it. He's no more a bisexual than I am a rugby player because I tried rugby out once."Good point. | |||
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