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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

We see this so many times posted in profiles but what constitutes a professional ?

I could say that I have been employed in what I perceive to be 'professional' roles in the past and running my own business qualifies me. What roles do people really think qualifies as professional ?

Looking forward to the replies to this!

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

To me a professional is somebody who has a job. It makes me laugh when I see it on profiles

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

Recognised qualification / degree to be allowed to do the job?

Or maybe membership of a trade body?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Some people mention they're in the forces or uniformed services,some that they're nurses or teachers. It's a way of describing oneself and is no reflection on anybody. It does make some people really cross though.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Love the having a job reply...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They get paid for their job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought hookers were banned here....?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Getting paid! Otherwise be an amateur. Plus...anyone classes themselves as professional is a dick

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Getting paid! Otherwise be an amateur. Plus...anyone classes themselves as professional is a dick "

Why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I actually thought it was Escorts initially

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

Does it really matter? its just how someones chosen to describe them self's as. I don't see why other people reading meanings into it that may or may not be there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if I said I was a professional dick, would that make me not a dick or just a double dick?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd happily get paid to be a dick tbf, but then that's back to prostitution.....

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"So if I said I was a professional dick, would that make me not a dick or just a double dick? "

Are you a stunt dick in porn films? That would qualify as a professional dick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So if I said I was a professional dick, would that make me not a dick or just a double dick?

Are you a stunt dick in porn films? That would qualify as a professional dick "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you offering me work?

I'll bring the beer and cwtches xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm whatever you want me to be baby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are you offering me work?

I'll bring the beer and cwtches xx"

I'd much prefer the double dick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I phone a friend?

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan
over a year ago

Kent


"We see this so many times posted in profiles but what constitutes a professional ?

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The 3 key constituents are:

Bubble perm

Keys to a Capri

A knack for getting Mary Whitehouse's knickers in a twist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a degree and am a member of a professional body so think I have an idea what professionals are. As far as im concerned they lie to keep their jobs, when they screw up they get promotions, keep decent jobs for their families that have no qualifications and bully better people to ensure they look good. In my view professionals are scummy people. I have also worked in factories and so called non professional people have more morals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Greed is good.....

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

CEO of an evil empire..

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"Some people mention they're in the forces or uniformed services,some that they're nurses or teachers. It's a way of describing oneself and is no reflection on anybody. It does make some people really cross though."

I see it this way too. And the reverse snobbery makes me laugh....the Jeremy Kyle types looking down on Doctors and Teachers like their education and professional standing is something to be ashamed of.

If what people are offends ....don't meet them - simple.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A professional is a specialist in a certain area. I think lol x

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who put professional in thier profiles do so to exclude those who are offended when they see professional on a profile. Apparently it works a treat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you use your job to define yourself youre a bit of an arse hole in my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you use your job to define yourself youre a bit of an arse hole in my opinion"

I think that depends tbh. I work full time so my job takes up a huge amount of my time and working in a hospital it does take up a lot of who I am. It's not the only thing that defines me, I have a lot of other interests, but the job I spend 40 hours a week at does factor into how I define myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For an interesting take on this it's very likley over the course of your lives that you or your family members will place thier trust and thier lives on the quality of my work and the honesty of my word that its right.

But im not a professional by the strict definition.

But equally you place faith in the handy work of the young Chinese child who made your kettle not to burn your house down as you sleep.

So maybe professionalism only matters as a social judgment or a reflection on ourselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For an interesting take on this it's very likley over the course of your lives that you or your family members will place thier trust and thier lives on the quality of my work and the honesty of my word that its right.

But im not a professional by the strict definition.

But equally you place faith in the handy work of the young Chinese child who made your kettle not to burn your house down as you sleep.

So maybe professionalism only matters as a social judgment or a reflection on ourselves

"

Their I really hate to do this after that beautiful speech

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People who put professional in thier profiles do so to exclude those who are offended when they see professional on a profile. Apparently it works a treat "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For an interesting take on this it's very likley over the course of your lives that you or your family members will place thier trust and thier lives on the quality of my work and the honesty of my word that its right.

But im not a professional by the strict definition.

But equally you place faith in the handy work of the young Chinese child who made your kettle not to burn your house down as you sleep.

So maybe professionalism only matters as a social judgment or a reflection on ourselves

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Love this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are a lot of professional c##ts out there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm certainly not going to trust an amateur surgeon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For an interesting take on this it's very likley over the course of your lives that you or your family members will place thier trust and thier lives on the quality of my work and the honesty of my word that its right.

But im not a professional by the strict definition.

But equally you place faith in the handy work of the young Chinese child who made your kettle not to burn your house down as you sleep.

So maybe professionalism only matters as a social judgment or a reflection on ourselves

Their I really hate to do this after that beautiful speech"

I typed it in the shower cut me some slack

also interestingly my autocorrect changes their to thier

Must have spelt it wrong so many times it learned it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For an interesting take on this it's very likley over the course of your lives that you or your family members will place thier trust and thier lives on the quality of my work and the honesty of my word that its right.

But im not a professional by the strict definition.

But equally you place faith in the handy work of the young Chinese child who made your kettle not to burn your house down as you sleep.

So maybe professionalism only matters as a social judgment or a reflection on ourselves

Their I really hate to do this after that beautiful speech

I typed it in the shower cut me some slack

also interestingly my autocorrect changes their to thier

Must have spelt it wrong so many times it learned it "

In the shower!! Respect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People who put professional in thier profiles do so to exclude those who are offended when they see professional on a profile. Apparently it works a treat

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Maybe the person who gets so worked up about it, need a to answer why the profile of a complete stranger they've never met angers them ?

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

A member of a professional body where you've reached the set standards of practise of that body ie, doctors, teachers, lawyers. And according to some fabbers we're all scummy twats or words to that effect.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Phew!!!

Thought I'd missed the weekly inverted snobbery "what is a professional" thread!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"A member of a professional body where you've reached the set standards of practise of that body ie, doctors, teachers, lawyers. And according to some fabbers we're all scummy twats or words to that effect. "

I think the term professional has evolved over the years. We refer to sportsmen and women as professional and amateur nowadays. I know they're probably members of specific bodies eg FIFA but they're not professionals as it was originally defined.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people mention they're in the forces or uniformed services,some that they're nurses or teachers. It's a way of describing oneself and is no reflection on anybody. It does make some people really cross though.

I see it this way too. And the reverse snobbery makes me laugh....the Jeremy Kyle types looking down on Doctors and Teachers like their education and professional standing is something to be ashamed of.

If what people are offends ....don't meet them - simple."

This

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"A member of a professional body where you've reached the set standards of practise of that body ie, doctors, teachers, lawyers. And according to some fabbers we're all scummy twats or words to that effect. "

'Scummy twats' and of course 'arseholes'. Reverse snobbery just reached another level....oh and we are both professional scummy twats and arseholes. If that offends ....sue us.....only good luck in finding a decent lawyer at jeremykyleismyherodotcom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I allways wanted to know if I was a professional man, but I have never known what would qualify me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A member of a professional body where you've reached the set standards of practise of that body ie, doctors, teachers, lawyers. And according to some fabbers we're all scummy twats or words to that effect. "

This^

There is a lovely long list of ‘professional’ bodies that qualify a person to sign documents on the government passport website....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this post could be solved with a good old fashioned dictionary.......

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Haha. Awesome

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I have a degree and am a member of a professional body so think I have an idea what professionals are. As far as im concerned they lie to keep their jobs, when they screw up they get promotions, keep decent jobs for their families that have no qualifications and bully better people to ensure they look good. In my view professionals are scummy people. I have also worked in factories and so called non professional people have more morals."

Love the pictures you guys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Makes us laugh unless they.

A professional boxer

A professional golfer

A professional tennis player.

Any other professionals are just people who work for a living i.e have a profession like a brickie as brick laying is his profession.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Makes us laugh unless they.

A professional boxer

A professional golfer

A professional tennis player.

Any other professionals are just people who work for a living i.e have a profession like a brickie as brick laying is his profession.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Makes us laugh unless they.

A professional boxer

A professional golfer

A professional tennis player.

Any other professionals are just people who work for a living i.e have a profession like a brickie as brick laying is his profession.

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Technically a brikie is a tradesman wirh a trade.

An engineer is a processional with a profession.

A sports man it simply differentiates between it being an unpaid amature status and it being a directly paid job because that is relevant for certain competitions. Like the Olympics before the last one you couldn't be a professional boxer and take part, only amatures could

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

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" Makes us laugh unless they.

A professional boxer

A professional golfer

A professional tennis player.

Any other professionals are just people who work for a living i.e have a profession like a brickie as brick laying is his profession.

"

Wrong!

A professional is someone with a specialised educational background allowing them to reach set standards of the particular body they wish to be a part of. The professionals you've mentioned are professional athletes and they are separated from the amateurs in the same sport. The difference is the professional athelete makes their living from their sport, the amateur doesn't. You cannot have an amateur teacher or lawyer but you can have a DIY (amatuer) brickie. Same goes for all the other jobs that people have experience in, they are not professionals but they have expertise in what they do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Professional wankers maybe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Makes us laugh unless they.

A professional boxer

A professional golfer

A professional tennis player.

Any other professionals are just people who work for a living i.e have a profession like a brickie as brick laying is his profession.

Wrong!

A professional is someone with a specialised educational background allowing them to reach set standards of the particular body they wish to be a part of. The professionals you've mentioned are professional athletes and they are separated from the amateurs in the same sport. The difference is the professional athelete makes their living from their sport, the amateur doesn't. You cannot have an amateur teacher or lawyer but you can have a DIY (amatuer) brickie. Same goes for all the other jobs that people have experience in, they are not professionals but they have expertise in what they do. "

Wrong..

A diy brickie does not get paid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It interests me that such minor things annoy people. Not saying it’s wrong to be annoyed everyone has an opinion. But it fascinates me. Why does a carpenter call themselves a chippy?

What should someone for example who manages a sales team call themselves?

They could put im a sales manager or they could put professional to be more discreet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It interests me that such minor things annoy people. Not saying it’s wrong to be annoyed everyone has an opinion. But it fascinates me. Why does a carpenter call themselves a chippy?

What should someone for example who manages a sales team call themselves?

They could put im a sales manager or they could put professional to be more discreet"

Cause carpenters make chips.

Us electrical types get called sparks, or lazy cunts depending on who you talk to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It interests me that such minor things annoy people. Not saying it’s wrong to be annoyed everyone has an opinion. But it fascinates me. Why does a carpenter call themselves a chippy?

What should someone for example who manages a sales team call themselves?

They could put im a sales manager or they could put professional to be more discreet

Cause carpenters make chips.

Us electrical types get called sparks, or lazy cunts depending on who you talk to "

Haha it’s was a rhetorical question sorry

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


" Makes us laugh unless they.

A professional boxer

A professional golfer

A professional tennis player.

Any other professionals are just people who work for a living i.e have a profession like a brickie as brick laying is his profession.

Wrong!

A professional is someone with a specialised educational background allowing them to reach set standards of the particular body they wish to be a part of. The professionals you've mentioned are professional athletes and they are separated from the amateurs in the same sport. The difference is the professional athelete makes their living from their sport, the amateur doesn't. You cannot have an amateur teacher or lawyer but you can have a DIY (amatuer) brickie. Same goes for all the other jobs that people have experience in, they are not professionals but they have expertise in what they do.

Wrong..

A diy brickie does not get paid"

Jesus! Did you not read my definition between amateur and professional and the fact one gets paid for a living and the other doesn't, and that isn't even the point. The brickie cannot be a professional whether they're paid or not as they don't have the professional body or specialised educational training behind them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Makes us laugh unless they.

A professional boxer

A professional golfer

A professional tennis player.

Any other professionals are just people who work for a living i.e have a profession like a brickie as brick laying is his profession.

"

So what’s wrong with someone wanting people to know they are employed haha.

I don’t have it on my profile but I’m proud to be employed in a decent career. And I tell people in conversation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It interests me that such minor things annoy people. Not saying it’s wrong to be annoyed everyone has an opinion. But it fascinates me. Why does a carpenter call themselves a chippy?

What should someone for example who manages a sales team call themselves?

They could put im a sales manager or they could put professional to be more discreet

Cause carpenters make chips.

Us electrical types get called sparks, or lazy cunts depending on who you talk to "

I haven't had the best experience with electricians, both charged extortionate rates, both have left faults that they will not return and fix. But I wouldn’t claim 'all' electricians are bad. Thankfully I have since found an amazing lady electrician

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Makes us laugh unless they.

A professional boxer

A professional golfer

A professional tennis player.

Any other professionals are just people who work for a living i.e have a profession like a brickie as brick laying is his profession.

Wrong!

A professional is someone with a specialised educational background allowing them to reach set standards of the particular body they wish to be a part of. The professionals you've mentioned are professional athletes and they are separated from the amateurs in the same sport. The difference is the professional athelete makes their living from their sport, the amateur doesn't. You cannot have an amateur teacher or lawyer but you can have a DIY (amatuer) brickie. Same goes for all the other jobs that people have experience in, they are not professionals but they have expertise in what they do.

Wrong..

A diy brickie does not get paid

Jesus! Did you not read my definition between amateur and professional and the fact one gets paid for a living and the other doesn't, and that isn't even the point. The brickie cannot be a professional whether they're paid or not as they don't have the professional body or specialised educational training behind them. "

If you care to look up the defination of professional you will see that it equates to both and not just being part of a body.

Yet to see an amateur air hostess to

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


" Makes us laugh unless they.

A professional boxer

A professional golfer

A professional tennis player.

Any other professionals are just people who work for a living i.e have a profession like a brickie as brick laying is his profession.

Wrong!

A professional is someone with a specialised educational background allowing them to reach set standards of the particular body they wish to be a part of. The professionals you've mentioned are professional athletes and they are separated from the amateurs in the same sport. The difference is the professional athelete makes their living from their sport, the amateur doesn't. You cannot have an amateur teacher or lawyer but you can have a DIY (amatuer) brickie. Same goes for all the other jobs that people have experience in, they are not professionals but they have expertise in what they do.

Wrong..

A diy brickie does not get paid

Jesus! Did you not read my definition between amateur and professional and the fact one gets paid for a living and the other doesn't, and that isn't even the point. The brickie cannot be a professional whether they're paid or not as they don't have the professional body or specialised educational training behind them.

If you care to look up the defination of professional you will see that it equates to both and not just being part of a body.

Yet to see an amateur air hostess to "

Air hostess isn't a professional. I know what a profession is, it's clearly defined if you care to look. Specialised education ie, degree then at least a year shadowing in said profession and then at least a year working for the accreditation before acceptance into said profession. Simple.

Care to share what your definition is so we can all see your criteria?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oxford dictionary defintion as well as what you state is.

"1.1 A person engaged in a specified activity, especially a sport, as a main paid occupation rather than as a pastime.

‘his first season as a professional’

1.2 A person competent or skilled in a particular activity.

‘she was a real professional on stage"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me iam a plumber

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

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"Oxford dictionary defintion as well as what you state is.

"1.1 A person engaged in a specified activity, especially a sport, as a main paid occupation rather than as a pastime.

‘his first season as a professional’

1.2 A person competent or skilled in a particular activity.

‘she was a real professional on stage"

"

yeah okay.

What you've provided is an athletic description which I addressed in my first reply to you. I actually acknowledged athletes as professionals and how they differ from amateurs in the same sport. I also addressed how they differed from everyday professionals and gave examples of said professionals and how they qualified. We're going around in circles here, but seriously, go and at least understand what you're talking about before putting down people who have professionals on their profiles as there isn't any justification in doing that. Have a great day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

PROFESSION

/pr?'f??n

noun

1.

a paid occupation, especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification.

A professional is someone who has received specialised training and a qualification for the job they do. They perform specialised advanced level skill in an area or at a level or held position which cannot be held or performed by entry level or unskilled workers.

One can claim to be a professional if they have honed skills and specialise in what they do no matter what the job is. It is not typical that one would refer to themselves as a professional for a job that they do not see as their area of specialisation.

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over a year ago


"We see this so many times posted in profiles but what constitutes a professional ?

I could say that I have been employed in what I perceive to be 'professional' roles in the past and running my own business qualifies me. What roles do people really think qualifies as professional ?

Looking forward to the replies to this! "

Depends on the context?

If it is a single person doing something for money, then I'd say they're a professional. For example, Aguero is a professional football player

A professional in the workplace is very subjective. To me - it is not being too emotional when it comes to business matters, and behaving appropriately. Again, 'behaving appropriately' is very loose and subjective

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over a year ago


"PROFESSION

/pr?'f??n

noun

1.

a paid occupation, especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification.

A professional is someone who has received specialised training and a qualification for the job they do. They perform specialised advanced level skill in an area or at a level or held position which cannot be held or performed by entry level or unskilled workers.

One can claim to be a professional if they have honed skills and specialise in what they do no matter what the job is. It is not typical that one would refer to themselves as a professional for a job that they do not see as their area of specialisation. "

Ah like a professional chef. Get you now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Goggle explination:-

relating to or belonging to a profession.

"young professional people"

synonyms: white-collar, executive, non-manual

"people in professional occupations"

antonyms: manual

worthy of or appropriate to a professional person; competent, skilful, or assured.

"his professional expertise"

synonyms: expert, accomplished, skilful, adept, masterly, masterful, excellent, fine, polished, finished, skilled, proficient, competent, capable, able, efficient, experienced, practised, trained, seasoned, slick, businesslike, deft, dexterous; More

informalace, crack, stellar, top-notch

"I think we gave a thoroughly professional performance"

antonyms: amateurish, incompetent, inept

2.

engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur.

"a professional boxer"

synonyms: paid, salaried, non-amateur, full-time

"a professional tennis player"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fab explanation:-

Someone who washes their sheets weekly, irons their clothes and cleans the house!

I could go in but in general on here it is supposed to mean NOT a scruffy herbert who is uneducated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So... whats a semi-professional then?

Lots of people on here claim to be a semi-professional photographer or massuse? Etc

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By *inkysexpotMan
over a year ago

leeds

Apparently I'm a professional driver as it's a part of my daily duties.

Class one licence, hiab block grab and clam shell ticket not to mention the cpc qualification needed to drive a vehicle 7.5 tons and over.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"To me a professional is somebody who has a job. It makes me laugh when I see it on profiles"

Nope. A professional has a degree/qualification that enables them to work in a certain recognised profession.

Someone with a job has a job.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Some people mention they're in the forces or uniformed services,some that they're nurses or teachers. It's a way of describing oneself and is no reflection on anybody. It does make some people really cross though."

The only people that get cross about it are the ones without a profession.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Love the having a job reply... "

Why ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me a professional is somebody who has a job. It makes me laugh when I see it on profiles

Nope. A professional has a degree/qualification that enables them to work in a certain recognised profession.

Someone with a job has a job. "

Filled an application in for a new job recently and one of the questions was.

"Present profession"

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"They get paid for their job. "

Let's get a definition here. Are we talking about people who work in a recognised profession OR are we talking about someone who does their job to the letter ?

Cos getting paid does not mean you work in a profession.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"To me a professional is somebody who has a job. It makes me laugh when I see it on profiles

Nope. A professional has a degree/qualification that enables them to work in a certain recognised profession.

Someone with a job has a job.

Filled an application in for a new job recently and one of the questions was.

"Present profession" "

I know ..... no winning with language.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the oldest profession is...

Yep a hooker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think you need to be good at anything to be a professional. I think it's just a statement that that's your specialty, the thing you're supposed to be best at, but yo can still be a clumsy incompetent at it....

In the modern world a builder is a profession rather than a trade because of equality, well all be prime ministers soon.....

No offence to builders, obv....

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I don't think you need to be good at anything to be a professional. I think it's just a statement that that's your specialty, the thing you're supposed to be best at, but yo can still be a clumsy incompetent at it....

In the modern world a builder is a profession rather than a trade because of equality, well all be prime ministers soon.....

No offence to builders, obv.... "

Nope.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"And the oldest profession is...

Yep a hooker "

Stop it now....... It's not a recognised profession. Even if we'd all pass the practical .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are three types of professionals.

1. Those with a formal qualification like lawyers teachers.

2.professional athletes.

3. Those who work in their chosen profession. I.e brickies,lorry drivers, bus drivers.

They and thousands of other jobs require training and passing formal qualifications.

So all of the above in our eyes have the right to say they are a professional in their chosen profession.

Each of them are different but does not make any of them better than anyone else.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

This is just it. I've never seen a profile that says ...... I'm a professional and better than you.

All I see are people in the forums going ..... wahhhhhh they said they are professional,who do they think they are.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

P.S. Where do you get your three categories from ?

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By *hrobbermanMan
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

The true mark of a professional is to know what they are. What their limits are.

Thus an Optician does not claim to be a Car Mechanic. A Surgeon does not claim to be an Environmental Scientist. A Fireman does not claim to be an Operating Theatre Nurse.

Knowing what your area of expertise actually is and just how far it actually extends is the true mark of a Professional.

Thus, as a Professional Special Needs School Teacher, I will NOT claim to be a University Lecturer in Scottish Literature or Russian History. Even though I am a well qualified Education Specialist with interests in Russia and Scottish Literature.

So being a Professional is also really about knowing what your specialism extends to, what your professional limits are, what you cannot claim to be able to do and being clear about that with yourself and others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"P.S. Where do you get your three categories from ?"

Not hard to work out.

The first one belongs to a professional body so it seems.

The second get paid for sport wheras amateurs do not.

And the third are professionals in what they are paid to do.

I.e professional drivers brickies, chefs.

They all need formal qualifications in order to do their chosen profession.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Jesus. We'll settle on a definition sooner or later.

THE professions (noun ) are different from being professional ( adjective ) or behaving professionally ( adverb ) although you can be paid for all of them.

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By *nowy and the GruffaloCouple
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

This topic does seem to come up quite a lot. Why do some people seem to get so angry by the word “professional”? Some of us have been/are professionals; it doesn’t make us any different from anyone else, especially not on a swingers site! It just shows that we made certain career path choices.

A professional is a practitioner of a profession. Being a builder or a bricklayer is not a profession; it’s a trade – defined by a period of vocational training followed by an apprenticeship. There is no snobbery here, tradesmen these days make more money than professionals!

For a role to be classified a profession a period of academic training is required, followed by a period of vocational training, and the most important part is that without a compulsory regulatory body, whom govern admission, membership and maintain standards, there is no profession.

For example, I saw someone claim on another thread that someone could be a professional bin man as that was his job and he received payment for his work. This is incorrect, if the bin man had to go to university and get a degree in being a bin man, then had to complete a traineeship, then had to apply for membership to the royal guild of bin men before practicing, then being a bin man could be considered a profession. But it isn’t, it’s a job.

I used to be a professional (hence I have completed professional practice exams, which included this very topic, as some professional titles are protected by law, i.e. you can not purport yourself to being a solicitor, architect, dentist, there are 35 regulated professions in total), but I left the profession to run businesses, thus I am no longer a professional. My wife however, still is a professional as she still practices a regulated profession and is a member of the required regulatory body.

A “professional” athlete may use the word professional, but in an entirely different context.

I hope this helps some of the “professional” keyboard warriors out there!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"P.S. Where do you get your three categories from ?

Not hard to work out.

The first one belongs to a professional body so it seems.

The second get paid for sport wheras amateurs do not.

And the third are professionals in what they are paid to do.

I.e professional drivers brickies, chefs.

They all need formal qualifications in order to do their chosen profession."

I understood them. Didn't need to work them out but wanted to know where you got those categories from. Am I reading right that they are your way of thinking as opposed to being a recognised / revised definition that is oficially recorded somewhere ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Snowy and Gruffalo ......

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"This topic does seem to come up quite a lot. Why do some people seem to get so angry by the word “professional”? Some of us have been/are professionals; it doesn’t make us any different from anyone else, especially not on a swingers site! It just shows that we made certain career path choices.

A professional is a practitioner of a profession. Being a builder or a bricklayer is not a profession; it’s a trade – defined by a period of vocational training followed by an apprenticeship. There is no snobbery here, tradesmen these days make more money than professionals!

For a role to be classified a profession a period of academic training is required, followed by a period of vocational training, and the most important part is that without a compulsory regulatory body, whom govern admission, membership and maintain standards, there is no profession.

For example, I saw someone claim on another thread that someone could be a professional bin man as that was his job and he received payment for his work. This is incorrect, if the bin man had to go to university and get a degree in being a bin man, then had to complete a traineeship, then had to apply for membership to the royal guild of bin men before practicing, then being a bin man could be considered a profession. But it isn’t, it’s a job.

I used to be a professional (hence I have completed professional practice exams, which included this very topic, as some professional titles are protected by law, i.e. you can not purport yourself to being a solicitor, architect, dentist, there are 35 regulated professions in total), but I left the profession to run businesses, thus I am no longer a professional. My wife however, still is a professional as she still practices a regulated profession and is a member of the required regulatory body.

A “professional” athlete may use the word professional, but in an entirely different context.

I hope this helps some of the “professional” keyboard warriors out there!

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"This topic does seem to come up quite a lot. Why do some people seem to get so angry by the word “professional”? Some of us have been/are professionals; it doesn’t make us any different from anyone else, especially not on a swingers site! It just shows that we made certain career path choices.

A professional is a practitioner of a profession. Being a builder or a bricklayer is not a profession; it’s a trade – defined by a period of vocational training followed by an apprenticeship. There is no snobbery here, tradesmen these days make more money than professionals!

For a role to be classified a profession a period of academic training is required, followed by a period of vocational training, and the most important part is that without a compulsory regulatory body, whom govern admission, membership and maintain standards, there is no profession.

For example, I saw someone claim on another thread that someone could be a professional bin man as that was his job and he received payment for his work. This is incorrect, if the bin man had to go to university and get a degree in being a bin man, then had to complete a traineeship, then had to apply for membership to the royal guild of bin men before practicing, then being a bin man could be considered a profession. But it isn’t, it’s a job.

I used to be a professional (hence I have completed professional practice exams, which included this very topic, as some professional titles are protected by law, i.e. you can not purport yourself to being a solicitor, architect, dentist, there are 35 regulated professions in total), but I left the profession to run businesses, thus I am no longer a professional. My wife however, still is a professional as she still practices a regulated profession and is a member of the required regulatory body.

A “professional” athlete may use the word professional, but in an entirely different context.

I hope this helps some of the “professional” keyboard warriors out there!

"

Excellent response!

I think on fab there are people who get offended for the sake of being offended. This subject comes up time and time again. Someone sees 'professional' on a profile and it gets their back up. Why?? Probably their own insecurities. Do they expect the professional to hide who they are - tear up their certificates and relinquish their prof membership so they feel better, or should the offended skip that profile because, by their own admission, they would not be compatable.I prefer people who I have things in common with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Loved the professionals.

Bodie and Doyle were awsome

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Loved the professionals.

Bodie and Doyle were awsome "

I like the one with the curly perm. The other one was tooooooooo smooth for his own good.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"Loved the professionals.

Bodie and Doyle were awsome "

Starsky and Hutch were more my sort of thing. The dark haired one especially

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"This is just it. I've never seen a profile that says ...... I'm a professional and better than you.

All I see are people in the forums going ..... wahhhhhh they said they are professional,who do they think they are."

As I said earlier Granny, inverted snobbery. Why people get a cob on on how others choose to market themselves is beyond one's ken.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just taken delivery of a nice, shiny new garden spade and fork set from Kent and Stowe; polished stainless with a split Ash handle, proper sexy.

Apparently Monty Don uses them don'cha know? Now i feel like a real professional.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel like for some it's a way of saying; "If you have a job we'll meet, and if you have a trade/qualification but you are out of work, that's okay too - but if you're clearly someone who doesn't put effort in to your career prospects, no chance."

For others I think professional is a dog whistle for; "Be a business owner, or have a middle class job - experienced professional working class at a minimum."

Just my experience over the years, when I first came out of Uni and went from manual work to a call centre, I was excluded for being a professional on here - once I got into the NHS, massive change in perception.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple
over a year ago

Chester

Opposite of us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All you need to understand is that the origin of the term meant, in

middle English, to be received into a religious institution or order. It comes from Latin profess which means ‘declared publicly’. It basically means that you have been accepted into an exclusive order and have the authorisation to declare that you belong to that order or institution.

The term has lingual and cultural applications. Just as it no longer only means allegiance to a religious order, it has also become used widely to refer refer to the being good at a particular action. However, a person who is making the profession is declaring that they have a honed skill and either belong to a body of people with that skill who will vouch for their right to claim it either through experience, award of qualification or membership. It is not merely having a job. Though anyone with any job who specialises in that particular job may declare themselves a professional. It's really not that difficult to grasp.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me. "

Why? It should either appeal or not appeal to you, many club nights have no appeal to me, but I don't object or consider it negatively I just don't go.

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By *amesnplanesMan
over a year ago

Banbridge and Dublin

For me, as previously mentioned it is being formally recognised by my professional society - who also offer a chartered status. And for a modest annual fee (ok, perhaps the word modest is a little cynical).

Another view on this is, from the day job, I'm often asked to sign passport credentials stating that the photo look absolutely nothing like the applicant five years ago, but the enclosed photo is a true likeness of their current image. Honest Guv!

And you need to scribe most of the above script onto a cropped photo and sign and date each image! Now that's got to be worthy of a professional.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work in a shop and I'm very professional at it

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By *ngelina4uWoman
over a year ago

Camberley/Middleton

It all depend on the context in reference to fab it means they have and use a vacuum cleaner.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's as reliable and understood term as well endowed. It may mean they have a job, or did have once. Or it may be used in an attempt to appear superior. It doesn't work here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

they think they’re above everyone else who doesn’t wear a suit on a daily basis

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By *r_PinkMan
over a year ago

london stratford

I am neither Bodie, Doyle or Cowley and I have never worked for CI5.

But I did watch every episode

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow, Fab has even more inverse snobbery than ever before.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So I take it that most some here would be perfectly happy with an amateur surgeon,dentist,gynecologist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I take it that most some here would be perfectly happy with an amateur surgeon,dentist,gynecologist "

What? To fuck? Yes. To remove a leg, tooth or baby. No.

Or am I missing the point of this site?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Wow, Fab has even more inverse snobbery than ever before.

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Yep!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You go to a club and everyone is half naked, nobody talks about social status or whether someone is professional or not.

A first from Oxford or Cambridge matters not a jot when you’re tied to a St Andrews cross with a pony tail hanging out your arse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone who pisses off those who aren't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I take it that most some here would be perfectly happy with an amateur surgeon,dentist,gynecologist

What? To fuck? Yes. To remove a leg, tooth or baby. No.

Or am I missing the point of this site?"

Don't think the op was suggesting professional shaggers...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me. "

Nope, it strikes me as like minded people wanting to spend the evening together.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow, Fab has even more inverse snobbery than ever before.

"

Agreed

Seems to spark off people’s insecurities when the word professional is mentioned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me.

Nope, it strikes me as like minded people wanting to spend the evening together.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me.

Nope, it strikes me as like minded people wanting to spend the evening together.

"

But this is where the "profesional" bit comes in lots of office staff etc consider themselves profesional when they arent.

I think a club night solely consisting of litteral definition professionals would be dead as hell.

So instead it will be full of people who label themselves professionals when they arent in which case it is pretentious... by definition

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me.

Nope, it strikes me as like minded people wanting to spend the evening together.

But this is where the "profesional" bit comes in lots of office staff etc consider themselves profesional when they arent.

I think a club night solely consisting of litteral definition professionals would be dead as hell.

So instead it will be full of people who label themselves professionals when they arent in which case it is pretentious... by definition"

That would make me think the club owners were clueless and put me off, even if I had a professional status.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I take it that most some here would be perfectly happy with an amateur surgeon,dentist,gynecologist "

So.

You would be happy if an amateur brickie built you house

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I take it that most some here would be perfectly happy with an amateur surgeon,dentist,gynecologist

So.

You would be happy if an amateur brickie built you house "

That's not the right definition of professional.

They won't have a manual job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me.

Nope, it strikes me as like minded people wanting to spend the evening together.

But this is where the "profesional" bit comes in lots of office staff etc consider themselves profesional when they arent.

I think a club night solely consisting of litteral definition professionals would be dead as hell.

So instead it will be full of people who label themselves professionals when they arent in which case it is pretentious... by definition"

Well it is because if you read the adverts you would see what I mean.

They vet the applicants on looks also. So they want people who think they are a class above and think they are hot.

I know how superficial people can be, I'm a model so see it all the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is a memeber of the boys in blue classed as a professional.

Don't need to go to uni or have academic training. Same goes for immigration personal.

But both can ok passport appications?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So I take it that most some here would be perfectly happy with an amateur surgeon,dentist,gynecologist

So.

You would be happy if an amateur brickie built you house

That's not the right definition of professional.

They won't have a manual job."

Ah you mean like someone who is on the tills at asda or someone who works in an office.

Both not manual jobs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me.

Nope, it strikes me as like minded people wanting to spend the evening together.

But this is where the "profesional" bit comes in lots of office staff etc consider themselves profesional when they arent.

I think a club night solely consisting of litteral definition professionals would be dead as hell.

So instead it will be full of people who label themselves professionals when they arent in which case it is pretentious... by definition

Well it is because if you read the adverts you would see what I mean.

They vet the applicants on looks also. So they want people who think they are a class above and think they are hot.

I know how superficial people can be, I'm a model so see it all the time. "

Being a professional isn’t about class, it’s about having acreditations in your field of expertise...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me.

Nope, it strikes me as like minded people wanting to spend the evening together.

But this is where the "profesional" bit comes in lots of office staff etc consider themselves profesional when they arent.

I think a club night solely consisting of litteral definition professionals would be dead as hell.

So instead it will be full of people who label themselves professionals when they arent in which case it is pretentious... by definition"

Unless you’ve been to one of these nights then how would you know it’s full of unprofessional professionals?

Maybe in layman’s terms it’s a way of putting off the manual workers and for the people that attended it suits there needs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me.

Nope, it strikes me as like minded people wanting to spend the evening together.

But this is where the "profesional" bit comes in lots of office staff etc consider themselves profesional when they arent.

I think a club night solely consisting of litteral definition professionals would be dead as hell.

So instead it will be full of people who label themselves professionals when they arent in which case it is pretentious... by definition

Well it is because if you read the adverts you would see what I mean.

They vet the applicants on looks also. So they want people who think they are a class above and think they are hot.

I know how superficial people can be, I'm a model so see it all the time.

Being a professional isn’t about class, it’s about having acreditations in your field of expertise... "

..Example,,,difference between a doorman and a bouncer...One will use tact and diplomacy where the other will just punch your lights out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me.

Nope, it strikes me as like minded people wanting to spend the evening together.

But this is where the "profesional" bit comes in lots of office staff etc consider themselves profesional when they arent.

I think a club night solely consisting of litteral definition professionals would be dead as hell.

So instead it will be full of people who label themselves professionals when they arent in which case it is pretentious... by definition

Unless you’ve been to one of these nights then how would you know it’s full of unprofessional professionals?

Maybe in layman’s terms it’s a way of putting off the manual workers and for the people that attended it suits there needs.

"

Just simply because i doubt there are enough professionals in a local area into swinging to fill a club.

Its kinda a crazy niche so by it would be people who arent in professions and as they label themselves as professional's they would be by definition pretentious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is a memeber of the boys in blue classed as a professional.

Don't need to go to uni or have academic training. Same goes for immigration personal.

But both can ok passport appications?

"
because passport applications is not abour being professional. It's abour being a trusted member of the community.

I'm a trade but my signature is accepted because of the feild

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a club night which is looking for professional people.

I don't know about you lot but that strikes as very pretentious to me.

Nope, it strikes me as like minded people wanting to spend the evening together.

But this is where the "profesional" bit comes in lots of office staff etc consider themselves profesional when they arent.

I think a club night solely consisting of litteral definition professionals would be dead as hell.

So instead it will be full of people who label themselves professionals when they arent in which case it is pretentious... by definition

Unless you’ve been to one of these nights then how would you know it’s full of unprofessional professionals?

Maybe in layman’s terms it’s a way of putting off the manual workers and for the people that attended it suits there needs.

Just simply because i doubt there are enough professionals in a local area into swinging to fill a club.

Its kinda a crazy niche so by it would be people who arent in professions and as they label themselves as professional's they would be by definition pretentious "

I think if you can only see in black & white and like to label people then maybe that’s how you come to your conclusion. Being professional can also be a state of mind how you see yourself and career progression which I actually don’t think is pretentious, to me it’s bettering ones self.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is a memeber of the boys in blue classed as a professional.

Don't need to go to uni or have academic training. Same goes for immigration personal.

But both can ok passport appications?

because passport applications is not abour being professional. It's abour being a trusted member of the community.

I'm a trade but my signature is accepted because of the feild"

Passport applications can be countersigned by a recognised profession.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Passport applications can be countersigned by a recognised profession."

So you can have a profession but not a job.

Seems to be it's a bit of the class society kicking in

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over a year ago

Or be in the same class as a professional but not a professional

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, I could be wrong, but I believe professional is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

The next time you want a dentist, a doctor, a lawyer, or the services of a pharmacist or an optician think carefully whether you want someone who is trained in their specific field and has qualifications recognised by their professional body, or whether you want someone who avoids all the years of training and practicing their profession because they think all that stuff is snobby. I know which I would choose every time.

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over a year ago


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Passport applications can be countersigned by a recognised profession.

So you can have a profession but not a job.

Seems to be it's a bit of the class society kicking in "

Profession and class are not the same thing

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over a year ago


"The next time you want a dentist, a doctor, a lawyer, or the services of a pharmacist or an optician think carefully whether you want someone who is trained in their specific field and has qualifications recognised by their professional body, or whether you want someone who avoids all the years of training and practicing their profession because they think all that stuff is snobby. I know which I would choose every time."

So every time we go to a new one of the above, we check them out to see if they fit your criteria?

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over a year ago


"

Passport applications can be countersigned by a recognised profession.

So you can have a profession but not a job.

Seems to be it's a bit of the class society kicking in

Profession and class are not the same thing "

There are people here who think other wise.

If we had a £ for every time we get mail or see "professional male,female or couple on a profile.

We would be able to buy google,amazon,facebook and microsoft with our pocket change

We have not saw many "hi,non professional male etc" yet

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By *nowy and the GruffaloCouple
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"The next time you want a dentist, a doctor, a lawyer, or the services of a pharmacist or an optician think carefully whether you want someone who is trained in their specific field and has qualifications recognised by their professional body, or whether you want someone who avoids all the years of training and practicing their profession because they think all that stuff is snobby. I know which I would choose every time.

So every time we go to a new one of the above, we check them out to see if they fit your criteria?

"

You don’t need to, the law has already done it for you as it’s in the public interest.

Unlike any of the examples you have previously given, these are real professions and are ergo protected by law, you would be prosecuted for purporting to be one when you were not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The next time you want a dentist, a doctor, a lawyer, or the services of a pharmacist or an optician think carefully whether you want someone who is trained in their specific field and has qualifications recognised by their professional body, or whether you want someone who avoids all the years of training and practicing their profession because they think all that stuff is snobby. I know which I would choose every time.

So every time we go to a new one of the above, we check them out to see if they fit your criteria?

You don’t need to, the law has already done it for you as it’s in the public interest.

Unlike any of the examples you have previously given, these are real professions and are ergo protected by law, you would be prosecuted for purporting to be one when you were not. "

And many has been prosecuted before.

So like every thing in life, it's not a fool proof system..

I think what gets most peoples backs up when others say they are professional, they look at how the media portray them.i.e a well known web site for single professionals.

We have yet to see one advertising along the lines of " hi im sweaty betty, i work in a shop but on benifits to"

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over a year ago

Professional generally means entry level qualifications. But to be honest I think it's a bit classist just like calling people unskilled workers. Every job requires skill and those classes as unskilled are generally very hard work.

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"The next time you want a dentist, a doctor, a lawyer, or the services of a pharmacist or an optician think carefully whether you want someone who is trained in their specific field and has qualifications recognised by their professional body, or whether you want someone who avoids all the years of training and practicing their profession because they think all that stuff is snobby. I know which I would choose every time.

So every time we go to a new one of the above, we check them out to see if they fit your criteria?

"

Not my criteria, but those defined by the profession. If you want open heart surgery carried out by an unqualified surgeon that's up to you - my suggestion is to check!

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over a year ago


"Professional generally means entry level qualifications. But to be honest I think it's a bit classist just like calling people unskilled workers. Every job requires skill and those classes as unskilled are generally very hard work."

Again you can be very hard working but not skilled in the true sense of the word.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

these are real professions and are ergo protected by law, you would be prosecuted for purporting to be one when you were not.

"

We have visons of all the cops in here saying" wtf is he talking about, i have a real profession,it's even on my profile that i'm a professional male."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The next time you want a dentist, a doctor, a lawyer, or the services of a pharmacist or an optician think carefully whether you want someone who is trained in their specific field and has qualifications recognised by their professional body, or whether you want someone who avoids all the years of training and practicing their profession because they think all that stuff is snobby. I know which I would choose every time."

This always makes me laugh. We’re talking about the Fab 'professional' and we know most people who state they are professional on here are people that sit in an office all day, wear an off the peg m&s suit and carry a faux leather briefcase.

If they has BSc after their name, it stands for Basic Swimming Certicate.

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By *nowy and the GruffaloCouple
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"

these are real professions and are ergo protected by law, you would be prosecuted for purporting to be one when you were not.

We have visons of all the cops in here saying" wtf is he talking about, i have a real profession,it's even on my profile that i'm a professional male."

"

Not quite sure what your point is, but being a police officer isn’t a profession, and they would know that.

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over a year ago


"

Not my criteria, but those defined by the profession. If you want open heart surgery carried out by an unqualified surgeon that's up to you - my suggestion is to check!"

We also check if we want a brickie to build our house, that he has the qalifications to do so.

But the brickie is not on here stating hes a qualifed brickie,tradesman ,whatever you want to call him.

This subject of what is professional reminds us of a "fawlty towers" episode where a character states "pretentious,moi!"

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By *nowy and the GruffaloCouple
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"The next time you want a dentist, a doctor, a lawyer, or the services of a pharmacist or an optician think carefully whether you want someone who is trained in their specific field and has qualifications recognised by their professional body, or whether you want someone who avoids all the years of training and practicing their profession because they think all that stuff is snobby. I know which I would choose every time.

This always makes me laugh. We’re talking about the Fab 'professional' and we know most people who state they are professional on here are people that sit in an office all day, wear an off the peg m&s suit and carry a faux leather briefcase.

If they has BSc after their name, it stands for Basic Swimming Certicate. "

This made me laugh! Yes, very true!

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By *ollycouple71Couple
over a year ago

manchester


"They get paid for their job. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, CEng, FIMechE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Not quite sure what your point is, but being a police officer isn’t a profession, and they would know that. "

Our point is that a member of the police can verify a passport which other posts have stated, can be signed by a professional.

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By *nowy and the GruffaloCouple
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"

Not quite sure what your point is, but being a police officer isn’t a profession, and they would know that.

Our point is that a member of the police can verify a passport which other posts have stated, can be signed by a professional."

I can sign a passport as a company director, I’m not a professional. Being able to sign a passport does not make you a professional.

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By *utsidenakedMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

Professional is getting paid, so they must lay for the service you give, yippee

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

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By *nowy and the GruffaloCouple
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, CEng, FIMechE"

I was tempted to post something similar, but you have more designations than me, so I’d feel inferior!

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Fuck me! Are people still getting their panties in a bunch about how others describe themselves?!!

Wow!!! To not have any worries in life, you lucky sods!

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"The next time you want a dentist, a doctor, a lawyer, or the services of a pharmacist or an optician think carefully whether you want someone who is trained in their specific field and has qualifications recognised by their professional body, or whether you want someone who avoids all the years of training and practicing their profession because they think all that stuff is snobby. I know which I would choose every time.

This always makes me laugh. We’re talking about the Fab 'professional' and we know most people who state they are professional on here are people that sit in an office all day, wear an off the peg m&s suit and carry a faux leather briefcase.

If they has BSc after their name, it stands for Basic Swimming Certicate. "

Really? And how would you know that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone with a job and delusions of grandeur

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone who buys bacon from the butchers

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over a year ago


"Professional generally means entry level qualifications. But to be honest I think it's a bit classist just like calling people unskilled workers. Every job requires skill and those classes as unskilled are generally very hard work.

Again you can be very hard working but not skilled in the true sense of the word."

What is skilled in the true sense of the word? What job does not require skill?

Most people can't keep their own toilet clean yet cleaners are cleaning toilets so that people can use them. I would say that's skill right there.

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over a year ago


"Professional generally means entry level qualifications. But to be honest I think it's a bit classist just like calling people unskilled workers. Every job requires skill and those classes as unskilled are generally very hard work.

Again you can be very hard working but not skilled in the true sense of the word.

What is skilled in the true sense of the word? What job does not require skill?

Most people can't keep their own toilet clean yet cleaners are cleaning toilets so that people can use them. I would say that's skill right there."

I see that as a job and a worthy one at that, we all need clean toilet facilities.. If you really think about it though it’s not skilled work is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But what is skill then? Please define it.

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over a year ago


"But what is skill then? Please define it. "

To quote the google definition of a skilled worker:

“A skilled worker is any worker who has special skill, training, knowledge, and (usually acquired) ability in their work. A skilled worker may have attended a college, university or technical school. Or, a skilled worker may have learned their skills on the job.”

To me cleaning toilets does not come under this remit. Doesn’t make the job any less worthy but it isn’t skilled work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So by that definition cleaning a toilet would be a special skill becuase so many people can't clean. They literally don't know how.

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over a year ago


"The next time you want a dentist, a doctor, a lawyer, or the services of a pharmacist or an optician think carefully whether you want someone who is trained in their specific field and has qualifications recognised by their professional body, or whether you want someone who avoids all the years of training and practicing their profession because they think all that stuff is snobby. I know which I would choose every time.

This always makes me laugh. We’re talking about the Fab 'professional' and we know most people who state they are professional on here are people that sit in an office all day, wear an off the peg m&s suit and carry a faux leather briefcase.

If they has BSc after their name, it stands for Basic Swimming Certicate.

Really? And how would you know that?"

Sorry for the delay in replying. I’ve been on a night shift, so you can guess I’m not a professional.

You seem rather vexed and uptight but the whole subject. If your job/career/profession defines who you are so much, I pity you.

You seem to want to brandish your work credentials as a badge of honour. Nobody gives a shit.

When the time comes, if all they can say in your eulogy is you were a damn fine lawyer/dentist/accountant will it have been worth it?

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"The next time you want a dentist, a doctor, a lawyer, or the services of a pharmacist or an optician think carefully whether you want someone who is trained in their specific field and has qualifications recognised by their professional body, or whether you want someone who avoids all the years of training and practicing their profession because they think all that stuff is snobby. I know which I would choose every time.

This always makes me laugh. We’re talking about the Fab 'professional' and we know most people who state they are professional on here are people that sit in an office all day, wear an off the peg m&s suit and carry a faux leather briefcase.

If they has BSc after their name, it stands for Basic Swimming Certicate.

Really? And how would you know that?

Sorry for the delay in replying. I’ve been on a night shift, so you can guess I’m not a professional.

You seem rather vexed and uptight but the whole subject. If your job/career/profession defines who you are so much, I pity you.

You seem to want to brandish your work credentials as a badge of honour. Nobody gives a shit.

When the time comes, if all they can say in your eulogy is you were a damn fine lawyer/dentist/accountant will it have been worth it?

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Vexed and uptight? Not at all. Just amazed and impressed that you can deduce so much about a person's character, attitude, clothes and enployment from their use of a single word.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was called a Professional soldier. A term used to seperate us from guerrillas, freedom fighters, terrorists and civilian militias. Also used to describe our level of professionalism. The ability to control an applied level of violence and compassion when required to do so.

I've been a Land Surveyor. A job most people would probably consider me a professional to be able to be good at. Truth is I needed no qualifications to work alongside men and women with degrees in archaeology and geology. Same wages, same job.

My current role requires multiple skills in plumbing, electronics, manual handling dangerously heavy loads, working in confined spaces and at height. I need a strong understanding of water chemistry, landscaping, carpentry, sales and customer service. Though nobody would call a glorified "Pool Boy" A professional. Even though my boss thinks of us all as professionals because of how we carry ourselves when on the job.

I think it's anyone who works for a living.

Though why you'd choose to discount a stay at home parent, just because they don't do paid work, is beyond me. Same goes for unemployed. Not everyone is a scrounge. Some have good reasons and are incredibly nice people.

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over a year ago


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You seem to want to brandish your work credentials as a badge of honour. Nobody gives a shit.

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You (and a fair few others) seem to give a shit.

Being defined by your career isn't a bad thing if you get to do something you love or really believe in. Such people don't need your pity.

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over a year ago


"I'm changing my name to

MrMonkey MEng, MSc, CEng, FIMechE

I was tempted to post something similar, but you have more designations than me, so I’d feel inferior!"

I don't use mine, I don't like displaying them. I know of people who join all sorts of institutes just to add letters to their names.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I don't know what something means, I know they don't want to meet me. Easy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well this one is done, see you on the next 'why can't everyone write their profile like mine' thread.

Is it going to be another 'Why professional' or are we going for 'Why do they have a preference' next time?

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