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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

After reading through the benifits cap thread and a few others i now start to believe that there is a two tier swinging society,those that have and the rest who have not, and is this somewhat highlighted on profiles i.e. professional

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no we are chavs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends how much you have and how expensive the clubs are

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Well I'm posh, me, but I reckon there is a reasonable cross section of all classes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is swinging a middle class society?

Hang on while I ask my maid and butler.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The day I let anyone's " class" or status bother me is the day I walk away from the scene xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my experience it probably reflects the socio-economic structure of the country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is swinging a middle class society?

Hang on while I ask my maid and butler. "
lol i dont think thay would care ... as maybe doing it too .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

for me it is classless

i never ask for details of peoples personal situation unless it pops up in a chat on a meet

as far as arranging a meet is concerned, i am interested in a person for their physical attractiveness and a liking for similar things to me sexually

i am certainly not interested in where they live, what they drive, what job they do, whether they are employed or out of work

in the forums however, people will consciously and subconsciously provide details of their situation or their beliefs and values

for me the forums aren't a market place for meets, they are a place to exchange _iews and opinions, have a laugh, offer a hug to those who need one and advice to those who ask for it

so there are no doubt people here who are middle class and others who define themselves as working class

the broad cross section of people is what makes it work but referring to my first point, for the purposes of meeting, to me, it is classless as i am not interested in their wider _iews, just the mutual attraction and the ability and will to meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a down and out, "come and get your big issue", help the homeless swingers

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The day I let anyone's " class" or status bother me is the day I walk away from the scene xx"

Yes agree there,we all shit the same

But have noticed a superior type of being posting, who seems to have no grasp on societies problems at present

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area

Judging by some of the homes we have been to...

NO not middle class at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a down and out, "come and get your big issue", help the homeless swingers "

...... never get the stains out after a big issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a down and out, "come and get your big issue", help the homeless swingers

...... never get the stains out after a big issue. "

We talking about your onsie again Laine

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area


"The day I let anyone's " class" or status bother me is the day I walk away from the scene xx"

Oh I dunno!

Some "Status" reports have made me think twice! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a down and out, "come and get your big issue", help the homeless swingers

...... never get the stains out after a big issue.

We talking about your onsie again Laine "

Knew I should have got one with a cat-flap........ means the lodger can get in and out quicker.

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By *isterTeaseMan
over a year ago

Chigwell


"The day I let anyone's " class" or status bother me is the day I walk away from the scene xx

Yes agree there,we all shit the same

But have noticed a superior type of being posting, who seems to have no grasp on societies problems at present"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The day I let anyone's " class" or status bother me is the day I walk away from the scene xx

Yes agree there,we all shit the same

But have noticed a superior type of being posting, who seems to have no grasp on societies problems at present"

No all I've ever seen in all the years I've been posting is people from all walks of life contributing their opinions

Some I agree with some I don't

Some of mine they agree with

Some they don't

What I don't do is lose sleep over it

Life and opinions are as diverse as everything else

People learn through their own experiences and life

I for one have no experience of the life they have lead

Only my own

Over the years the fourms have both strengthend some opinions and completely changed others

It's a good way of learning you cannot always be right xx

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

lol@superior types, ive lived on the streets and had absolutly fuck all, im quite in tune with societies problems.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After reading through the benifits cap thread and a few others i now start to believe that there is a two tier swinging society,those that have and the rest who have not, and is this somewhat highlighted on profiles i.e. professional"

Yes there is, along with singles and couples, men and women, black and white, fat and fit and you can go on. Some mix and others dont! Its just like going out the front door into the real world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what is middle class ? high class ? low class ? i am not sure as most have to work for the things in life we have and some have more then others dont make them no better ... its just life . Its about if you click as people not what you got ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I'm posh, me, but I reckon there is a reasonable cross section of all classes."

And what class yourself as posh I ask?

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

swinging reflects life.... there are those with and there are those with less.

some will strive to improve, some will attempt to drag the' haves' down.

sadly jealousy is out there.

It is a weakness of us Brits, we build them up and we can't wait to knock them down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"swinging reflects life.... there are those with and there are those with less.

some will strive to improve, some will attempt to drag the' haves' down.

sadly jealousy is out there.

It is a weakness of us Brits, we build them up and we can't wait to knock them down."

my grandma used to say 'i can't stand folk that get on'

i think there is an element of that mentality here as well as throughout society

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I personally don't care what 'class' a person falls into, as long as they have manners and can have a laugh thats all that matters.

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"The day I let anyone's " class" or status bother me is the day I walk away from the scene xx

Yes agree there,we all shit the same

But have noticed a superior type of being posting, who seems to have no grasp on societies problems at present"

Reading yer profile you don't appear too keen on dirty little unwashed scrotes yerselves.

Rules me out.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"swinging reflects life.... there are those with and there are those with less.

some will strive to improve, some will attempt to drag the' haves' down.

sadly jealousy is out there.

It is a weakness of us Brits, we build them up and we can't wait to knock them down."

Yes indeed wouldn't life be so much easier if greed and jealousy wern't such an instringent part of it,but thats never gonna happen so i guess it we will all have to strive harder to climb the ladder and wait for the boot in the teeth back down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The day I let anyone's " class" or status bother me is the day I walk away from the scene xx"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The day I let anyone's " class" or status bother me is the day I walk away from the scene xx

Yes agree there,we all shit the same

But have noticed a superior type of being posting, who seems to have no grasp on societies problems at present

Reading yer profile you don't appear too keen on dirty little unwashed scrotes yerselves.

Rules me out. "

If you read the profile in its context the dirty little scrote decided to out us so take what you like out off that and happy hunting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends if you want to shag Baldric or Queenie to determine your class or social standing.

If you want to shag both of them then you're either classless or just plain greedy

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"After reading through the benifits cap thread and a few others i now start to believe that there is a two tier swinging society,those that have and the rest who have not, and is this somewhat highlighted on profiles i.e. professional"

I try and avoid threads like the benefits cap one, one because I dont know enough about it and 2 there will be some who think all on benefits should be burnt at the stake.

However, as for is there a class or tier when it comes to swinging, I hope not! If someone puts 'professional' on their pro I dont give a monkeys! For all I know they could be a professional busker or professional brain surgeon, at the end of the day they still use the toilet!

If someone thinks they are better than another for the job they do, area they live in, how rich their parents are then they arent worth bothering with in my opinion.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


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If someone thinks they are better than another for the job they do, area they live in, how rich their parents are then they arent worth bothering with in my opinion."
i totally agree!

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"

If someone thinks they are better than another for the job they do, area they live in, how rich their parents are then they arent worth bothering with in my opinion."

I agree.

Using the above, you will find some do, others don't... and some who don't have, will shoot them anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

haven't read much of the benefits one or this one if i'm honest but i would of thought that those most annoyed about the benefits abuse that goes on would be working class rather than middle class

guess really i should read fully before i comment but lacking in time and inclination

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cringe when i see some bragging about wealth and what they have materialistic wise. It really has no place in swinging as i see it.

After all we are all the same naked.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"

If someone thinks they are better than another for the job they do, area they live in, how rich their parents are then they arent worth bothering with in my opinion.

I agree.

Using the above, you will find some do, others don't... and some who don't have, will shoot them anyway."
well some cant expect any less....depends on how much humility they have

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle

First of all, there are a lot of people who feel very strongly about politics on here, and some of them are clearly of the Daily Mail tendency. You can cite the Benefits Cap thread as evidence for their prejudices and their ignorance of the evidence, but they've got opinions and they're going to vent them. It's impossible to debate with them because they simply leave threads, or flounce. If I want a serious political debate I can go elsewhere - I say my piece sometime but I do wonder at all the masters of economics and industry who've got all day to spend in the forum telling us that lazy workshy breeders shouldn't get benefits....

There are people on here who are keener on swinging with people like them than they are on shagging all and sundry; no surprise really, but it is also hard to be a swinger when you're skint, and if Jennifer and Jeffrey can only get horny if there's a nice dinner and an expensive bottle of wine on offer that's their thing...

Some people do seem to want to organize swinging like a night out at the golf club - good luck to 'em. There is no such thing as 'the' way to swing - we can all do it differently...

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"

If someone thinks they are better than another for the job they do, area they live in, how rich their parents are then they arent worth bothering with in my opinion.

I agree.

Using the above, you will find some do, others don't... and some who don't have, will shoot them anyway.well some cant expect any less....depends on how much humility they have "

yup, all for more humility by some that have and less bitterness from some that don't.

we just solved the problem in 3 threads.

off to bottle it.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"

If someone thinks they are better than another for the job they do, area they live in, how rich their parents are then they arent worth bothering with in my opinion.

I agree.

Using the above, you will find some do, others don't... and some who don't have, will shoot them anyway.well some cant expect any less....depends on how much humility they have

yup, all for more humility by some that have and less bitterness from some that don't.

we just solved the problem in 3 threads.

off to bottle it."
i havent read the others yet!! Patent office closes in 15!

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"

If someone thinks they are better than another for the job they do, area they live in, how rich their parents are then they arent worth bothering with in my opinion.

I agree.

Using the above, you will find some do, others don't... and some who don't have, will shoot them anyway.well some cant expect any less....depends on how much humility they have

yup, all for more humility by some that have and less bitterness from some that don't.

we just solved the problem in 3 threads.

off to bottle it.i havent read the others yet!! Patent office closes in 15! "

cool, meet ya in 15.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

anyone lend us a tenner

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"anyone lend us a tenner"
pissed yaself again?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"anyone lend us a tennerpissed yaself again? "

lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cringe when i see some bragging about wealth and what they have materialistic wise. It really has no place in swinging as i see it.

After all we are all the same naked. "
we are not all the same naked ... be boring if we was ,

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"I cringe when i see some bragging about wealth and what they have materialistic wise. It really has no place in swinging as i see it.

After all we are all the same naked. we are not all the same naked ... be boring if we was , "

Having had a look at his pics I aint got one of those in my pants

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

I have met people from all walks of life since I have been swinging, both one to one meets and in clubs and parties....so no, in my experience it's all classes that swing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cringe when i see some bragging about wealth and what they have materialistic wise. It really has no place in swinging as i see it.

After all we are all the same naked. we are not all the same naked ... be boring if we was ,

Having had a look at his pics I aint got one of those in my pants "
no nor me xx but alot look so diffrent never the same .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The day I let anyone's " class" or status bother me is the day I walk away from the scene xx

Yes agree there,we all shit the same

But have noticed a superior type of being posting, who seems to have no grasp on societies problems at present"

+1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cringe when i see some bragging about wealth and what they have materialistic wise. It really has no place in swinging as i see it.

After all we are all the same naked. "

+1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is swinging a middle class society?

Hang on while I ask my maid and butler. "

lol, like it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cringe when i see some bragging about wealth and what they have materialistic wise. It really has no place in swinging as i see it.

After all we are all the same naked.

+1"

+2

everybody's equal to us too

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cringe when i see some bragging about wealth and what they have materialistic wise. It really has no place in swinging as i see it.

After all we are all the same naked.

+1

+2

everybody's equal to us too

Wolf

"

How come everybody wants the fit, beautiful brigade instead of the everyday folks with lumps, bumps and curves then?

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"I cringe when i see some bragging about wealth and what they have materialistic wise. It really has no place in swinging as i see it.

After all we are all the same naked.

+1

+2

everybody's equal to us too

Wolf

How come everybody wants the fit, beautiful brigade instead of the everyday folks with lumps, bumps and curves then? "

Opposites attract?

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"for me it is classless

i never ask for details of peoples personal situation unless it pops up in a chat on a meet

as far as arranging a meet is concerned, i am interested in a person for their physical attractiveness and a liking for similar things to me sexually

i am certainly not interested in where they live, what they drive, what job they do, whether they are employed or out of work

in the forums however, people will consciously and subconsciously provide details of their situation or their beliefs and values

for me the forums aren't a market place for meets, they are a place to exchange _iews and opinions, have a laugh, offer a hug to those who need one and advice to those who ask for it

so there are no doubt people here who are middle class and others who define themselves as working class

the broad cross section of people is what makes it work but referring to my first point, for the purposes of meeting, to me, it is classless as i am not interested in their wider _iews, just the mutual attraction and the ability and will to meet "

Could not have said it better myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"no we are chavs "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think if you click get on . Thats what swinging about meeting new people and having a lovely time together . Coming away with a smile on your face .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cringe when i see some bragging about wealth and what they have materialistic wise. It really has no place in swinging as i see it.

After all we are all the same naked.

+1

+2

everybody's equal to us too

Wolf

"

Equal is a better word but its the same sentiment. There are no designer labels on a birthday suit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a down and out, "come and get your big issue", help the homeless swingers

...... never get the stains out after a big issue. "

bless you both.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"First of all, there are a lot of people who feel very strongly about politics on here, and some of them are clearly of the Daily Mail tendency. You can cite the Benefits Cap thread as evidence for their prejudices and their ignorance of the evidence, but they've got opinions and they're going to vent them. It's impossible to debate with them because they simply leave threads, or flounce. If I want a serious political debate I can go elsewhere - I say my piece sometime but I do wonder at all the masters of economics and industry who've got all day to spend in the forum telling us that lazy workshy breeders shouldn't get benefits....

There are people on here who are keener on swinging with people like them than they are on shagging all and sundry; no surprise really, but it is also hard to be a swinger when you're skint, and if Jennifer and Jeffrey can only get horny if there's a nice dinner and an expensive bottle of wine on offer that's their thing...

Some people do seem to want to organize swinging like a night out at the golf club - good luck to 'em. There is no such thing as 'the' way to swing - we can all do it differently..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

mind ............. middle class needs some definition. Is it about money or education, culture perhaps? How do you know if you are middle class anyhows?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"mind ............. middle class needs some definition. Is it about money or education, culture perhaps? How do you know if you are middle class anyhows?"

"The middle class is any class of people in the middle of a societal hierarchy. In Weberian socio-economic terms, the middle class is the broad group of people in contemporary society who fall socio-economically between the working class and upper class.

The common measures of what constitutes middle class vary significantly between cultures. In urban India, for example, a family is considered middle class if it resides in an owner-occupied property. In the United States and Canada many families where the primary income-earner is employed in a white collar job are considered part of the middle class. Moreover, most North Americans would take issue with a definition of middle-class which excluded the working class, i.e. 'classic Weberian'. (Hard work is generally held in high honour, fairness and equality are common law, and the North American economy was built upon traditionally labour intensive industries.)

Similarly, in the United Kingdom, the term "working class" can be seen as carrying its own cultural status. The term middle class implies those people who typically have had a good education, own a family house, and hold a managerial or professional post. Those holding a senior role in a profession or ownership/directorship of a corporation may be regarded as upper middle class, but in England this is as much dependent on background and education. The upper class is generally regarded as the aristocracy and landed gentry; very rich financiers buy country estates in order to qualify. It was commonly held that to join the landed gentry required a distance of least three generations from the time at which money was made (especially if through trade) and that those entering into its rank acquired the manners and mores of those already established.[1]

A persistent source of confusion surrounding the term "middle class" derives predominantly from there being no set criteria for such a definition. From an economic perspective, for example, members of the middle class do not necessarily fall in the middle of a society's income distribution. Instead, middle class salaries tend to be determined by middle class occupations, which in turn are attained by means of middle class values. Thus, individuals who might fall in the middle ground on a societal hierarchy as defined by sociologists do not necessarily fall into a middle ground on an economic hierarchy as defined by economists. As a result, intuitive colloquial and journalistic usage of the term casts a wide net and does not necessarily coincide with an academic sociological or economic definition."

If you understand it apparently you are middle class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who fancies having a squeezed middle?

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I worked hard all my life,earned great money, some investments crashed and I found myself cleaning & picking condoms off a gay sauna floor to earn some cash....

always a great leveller.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"First of all, there are a lot of people who feel very strongly about politics on here, and some of them are clearly of the Daily Mail tendency. You can cite the Benefits Cap thread as evidence for their prejudices and their ignorance of the evidence, but they've got opinions and they're going to vent them. It's impossible to debate with them because they simply leave threads, or flounce. If I want a serious political debate I can go elsewhere - I say my piece sometime but I do wonder at all the masters of economics and industry who've got all day to spend in the forum telling us that lazy workshy breeders shouldn't get benefits....

There are people on here who are keener on swinging with people like them than they are on shagging all and sundry; no surprise really, but it is also hard to be a swinger when you're skint, and if Jennifer and Jeffrey can only get horny if there's a nice dinner and an expensive bottle of wine on offer that's their thing...

Some people do seem to want to organize swinging like a night out at the golf club - good luck to 'em. There is no such thing as 'the' way to swing - we can all do it differently... "

i have to say i find in cultural outlook i meet more swingers from a working class background than others...though that does not say what class thay are now.However that may just be a case of like attracting like. i know by any definition of the word i am middle class, it just sticks in my throat to admit it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"mind ............. middle class needs some definition. Is it about money or education, culture perhaps? How do you know if you are middle class anyhows?

"The middle class is any class of people in the middle of a societal hierarchy. In Weberian socio-economic terms, the middle class is the broad group of people in contemporary society who fall socio-economically between the working class and upper class.

The common measures of what constitutes middle class vary significantly between cultures. In urban India, for example, a family is considered middle class if it resides in an owner-occupied property. In the United States and Canada many families where the primary income-earner is employed in a white collar job are considered part of the middle class. Moreover, most North Americans would take issue with a definition of middle-class which excluded the working class, i.e. 'classic Weberian'. (Hard work is generally held in high honour, fairness and equality are common law, and the North American economy was built upon traditionally labour intensive industries.)

Similarly, in the United Kingdom, the term "working class" can be seen as carrying its own cultural status. The term middle class implies those people who typically have had a good education, own a family house, and hold a managerial or professional post. Those holding a senior role in a profession or ownership/directorship of a corporation may be regarded as upper middle class, but in England this is as much dependent on background and education. The upper class is generally regarded as the aristocracy and landed gentry; very rich financiers buy country estates in order to qualify. It was commonly held that to join the landed gentry required a distance of least three generations from the time at which money was made (especially if through trade) and that those entering into its rank acquired the manners and mores of those already established.[1]

A persistent source of confusion surrounding the term "middle class" derives predominantly from there being no set criteria for such a definition. From an economic perspective, for example, members of the middle class do not necessarily fall in the middle of a society's income distribution. Instead, middle class salaries tend to be determined by middle class occupations, which in turn are attained by means of middle class values. Thus, individuals who might fall in the middle ground on a societal hierarchy as defined by sociologists do not necessarily fall into a middle ground on an economic hierarchy as defined by economists. As a result, intuitive colloquial and journalistic usage of the term casts a wide net and does not necessarily coincide with an academic sociological or economic definition."

If you understand it apparently you are middle class. "

fanks

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By *un_JuiceCouple
over a year ago

Nr Chester

You are who you are. Does not matter if you are rich or poor. Folk should take you as you are. We are the kind of people were you take us as you find us or fuck off

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over a year ago


"You are who you are. Does not matter if you are rich or poor. Folk should take you as you are. We are the kind of people were you take us as you find us or fuck off"

xx

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"You are who you are. Does not matter if you are rich or poor. Folk should take you as you are. We are the kind of people were you take us as you find us or fuck off"

+1

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Well I'm posh, me, but I reckon there is a reasonable cross section of all classes.

And what class yourself as posh I ask?"

I crook my little finger when I drink tea.

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over a year ago


"Well I'm posh, me, but I reckon there is a reasonable cross section of all classes.

And what class yourself as posh I ask?

I crook my little finger when I drink tea."

Arthritis is a bitch aint it?? xx

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over a year ago

I remember reading last year that something like 70% of people consider themselves middle class. bit optimistic.

unless owning an lcd tv make you so

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Well I'm posh, me, but I reckon there is a reasonable cross section of all classes.

And what class yourself as posh I ask?

I crook my little finger when I drink tea.

Arthritis is a bitch aint it?? xx "

Wanking all those cocks is taking its toll!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"After reading through the benifits cap thread and a few others i now start to believe that there is a two tier swinging society,those that have and the rest who have not, and is this somewhat highlighted on profiles i.e. professional"

actually.... if we believe that swinging mirrors a cross-section of society then why would this be any different than to reflect any other part...

you are going to have some here that are going to be at the higher end of the spectrum.... just like there are going to be those at the lower end.... there is nothing wrong with that at all....

if you are going to start demonising people... that is where the issues are going to arise...

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"After reading through the benifits cap thread and a few others i now start to believe that there is a two tier swinging society,those that have and the rest who have not, and is this somewhat highlighted on profiles i.e. professional

actually.... if we believe that swinging mirrors a cross-section of society then why would this be any different than to reflect any other part...

you are going to have some here that are going to be at the higher end of the spectrum.... just like there are going to be those at the lower end.... there is nothing wrong with that at all....

if you are going to start demonising people... that is where the issues are going to arise... "

I personally think that anyone who takes what someone puts on their profile as an honest reflection of them in real life is probably due some disappointment.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey


"I have met people from all walks of life since I have been swinging, both one to one meets and in clubs and parties....so no, in my experience it's all classes that swing."

+1

We agree and that's part of what we enjoy about swinging, meeting people that we wouldn't usually cross paths with.

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over a year ago


"I have met people from all walks of life since I have been swinging, both one to one meets and in clubs and parties....so no, in my experience it's all classes that swing.

+1

We agree and that's part of what we enjoy about swinging, meeting people that we wouldn't usually cross paths with. "
Have to say i love that too ... get to meet all sorts at clubs .. other month meet people from Holland .

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over a year ago


"I have met people from all walks of life since I have been swinging, both one to one meets and in clubs and parties....so no, in my experience it's all classes that swing.

+1

We agree and that's part of what we enjoy about swinging, meeting people that we wouldn't usually cross paths with. "

agreed...I'm well up for meeting common people!

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over a year ago


"I have met people from all walks of life since I have been swinging, both one to one meets and in clubs and parties....so no, in my experience it's all classes that swing.

+1

We agree and that's part of what we enjoy about swinging, meeting people that we wouldn't usually cross paths with.

agreed...I'm well up for meeting common people!"

no your not. ya luved up, your love rocket has gone into retirement never to be used and abused again

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over a year ago

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over a year ago


"I have met people from all walks of life since I have been swinging, both one to one meets and in clubs and parties....so no, in my experience it's all classes that swing.

+1

We agree and that's part of what we enjoy about swinging, meeting people that we wouldn't usually cross paths with.

agreed...I'm well up for meeting common people!

no your not. ya luved up, your love rocket has gone into retirement never to be used and abused again"

lol mean once ur in a relationship ur rocket gets decommissioned???? awwww FFS I so wanted to land on Uranus!!!! xxxx

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over a year ago


"I have met people from all walks of life since I have been swinging, both one to one meets and in clubs and parties....so no, in my experience it's all classes that swing.

+1

We agree and that's part of what we enjoy about swinging, meeting people that we wouldn't usually cross paths with.

agreed...I'm well up for meeting common people!

no your not. ya luved up, your love rocket has gone into retirement never to be used and abused again

lol mean once ur in a relationship ur rocket gets decommissioned???? awwww FFS I so wanted to land on Uranus!!!! xxxx"

Houston we have lift off

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By *waymanMan
over a year ago

newcastle


"mind ............. middle class needs some definition. Is it about money or education, culture perhaps? How do you know if you are middle class anyhows?

"The middle class is any class of people in the middle of a societal hierarchy. In Weberian socio-economic terms, the middle class is the broad group of people in contemporary society who fall socio-economically between the working class and upper class.

The common measures of what constitutes middle class vary significantly between cultures. In urban India, for example, a family is considered middle class if it resides in an owner-occupied property. In the United States and Canada many families where the primary income-earner is employed in a white collar job are considered part of the middle class. Moreover, most North Americans would take issue with a definition of middle-class which excluded the working class, i.e. 'classic Weberian'. (Hard work is generally held in high honour, fairness and equality are common law, and the North American economy was built upon traditionally labour intensive industries.)

Similarly, in the United Kingdom, the term "working class" can be seen as carrying its own cultural status. The term middle class implies those people who typically have had a good education, own a family house, and hold a managerial or professional post. Those holding a senior role in a profession or ownership/directorship of a corporation may be regarded as upper middle class, but in England this is as much dependent on background and education. The upper class is generally regarded as the aristocracy and landed gentry; very rich financiers buy country estates in order to qualify. It was commonly held that to join the landed gentry required a distance of least three generations from the time at which money was made (especially if through trade) and that those entering into its rank acquired the manners and mores of those already established.[1]

A persistent source of confusion surrounding the term "middle class" derives predominantly from there being no set criteria for such a definition. From an economic perspective, for example, members of the middle class do not necessarily fall in the middle of a society's income distribution. Instead, middle class salaries tend to be determined by middle class occupations, which in turn are attained by means of middle class values. Thus, individuals who might fall in the middle ground on a societal hierarchy as defined by sociologists do not necessarily fall into a middle ground on an economic hierarchy as defined by economists. As a result, intuitive colloquial and journalistic usage of the term casts a wide net and does not necessarily coincide with an academic sociological or economic definition."

If you understand it apparently you are middle class. "

Of course there are lots of sociologists who'd say that's a crock. Including marxists....

I would define the middle class as being those who do not own a significant part of the means of production on which they depend for income but who delude themselves that they stand in a more privileged position than the rest of the proletariat.

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