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"None of those, I can’t be chained to your rules Op, I’m to much of a maverick. " You're just a wild eyed anarchist standing at the gates of nowhere... | |||
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"3 - which might sound odd given my sexuality but it really would make no difference to me whether bi play was on the cards or not" It's not even about the bi play for me. I may get lambasted for saying this, but over the years I've found that bi men have been more relaxed and open, more affectionate, more comfortable in their own skin and fun to be around. A friend's husband asked me some time back why I seemed to meet bi men more, and I hadn't actually realised until he pointed it out to me that it was true, so I thought it over and those were my conclusions. Straight men I met often (but not always I should stress) seemed to have something to prove and sometimes even seemed more concerned about getting a great veri than actually relaxing and simply enjoying their time to the max. I've rarely met a straight man more than once. My longest and happiest Fab relationships have been with bi men. Maybe it is just coincidental... But there has to be something to it. Interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences? | |||
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"3 - which might sound odd given my sexuality but it really would make no difference to me whether bi play was on the cards or not It's not even about the bi play for me. I may get lambasted for saying this, but over the years I've found that bi men have been more relaxed and open, more affectionate, more comfortable in their own skin and fun to be around. A friend's husband asked me some time back why I seemed to meet bi men more, and I hadn't actually realised until he pointed it out to me that it was true, so I thought it over and those were my conclusions. Straight men I met often (but not always I should stress) seemed to have something to prove and sometimes even seemed more concerned about getting a great veri than actually relaxing and simply enjoying their time to the max. I've rarely met a straight man more than once. My longest and happiest Fab relationships have been with bi men. Maybe it is just coincidental... But there has to be something to it. Interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences? " 100% agree with you here.  | |||
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"Is the female straight?" If the bi male would make no difference but the female being bi would, so you're a 3 for the purpose of this survey | |||
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"3 - which might sound odd given my sexuality but it really would make no difference to me whether bi play was on the cards or not It's not even about the bi play for me. I may get lambasted for saying this, but over the years I've found that bi men have been more relaxed and open, more affectionate, more comfortable in their own skin and fun to be around. A friend's husband asked me some time back why I seemed to meet bi men more, and I hadn't actually realised until he pointed it out to me that it was true, so I thought it over and those were my conclusions. Straight men I met often (but not always I should stress) seemed to have something to prove and sometimes even seemed more concerned about getting a great veri than actually relaxing and simply enjoying their time to the max. I've rarely met a straight man more than once. My longest and happiest Fab relationships have been with bi men. Maybe it is just coincidental... But there has to be something to it. Interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences? " Maybe watching them suck another guy is another reason you mainly go for bi guys? Ha ha! | |||
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"Is the female straight? If the bi male would make no difference but the female being bi would, so you're a 3 for the purpose of this survey "No. I'm a 1. If he's playing straight there would be no meet. | |||
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"Is the female straight? If the bi male would make no difference but the female being bi would, so you're a 3 for the purpose of this survey
No. I'm a 1. If he's playing straight there would be no meet. "No, he's willing to pay straight. He'll play bi if you prefer | |||
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"Is the female straight? If the bi male would make no difference but the female being bi would, so you're a 3 for the purpose of this survey
No. I'm a 1. If he's playing straight there would be no meet.
No, he's willing to pay straight. He'll play bi if you prefer "Ok,if his mrs is straight, and he's bi and black we would consider play. | |||
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"This is another survey. This time for people who play with couples and is an attempt to discover if having a bi male in a couple makes it easier or harder to meet. So, if you got a message from a couple where the male was bi, but willing to play straight would you : 1. Definitely not meet 2. Be less likely to meet 3. It would make no difference. 4. Be more likely to meet. As before, if you don't feel you fit into these categories, please ignore the thread. Otherwise, just say a number. Results at 10pm tonight We're a 4 (obviously). " We are a 4...x | |||
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"3 - which might sound odd given my sexuality but it really would make no difference to me whether bi play was on the cards or not It's not even about the bi play for me. I may get lambasted for saying this, but over the years I've found that bi men have been more relaxed and open, more affectionate, more comfortable in their own skin and fun to be around. A friend's husband asked me some time back why I seemed to meet bi men more, and I hadn't actually realised until he pointed it out to me that it was true, so I thought it over and those were my conclusions. Straight men I met often (but not always I should stress) seemed to have something to prove and sometimes even seemed more concerned about getting a great veri than actually relaxing and simply enjoying their time to the max. I've rarely met a straight man more than once. My longest and happiest Fab relationships have been with bi men. Maybe it is just coincidental... But there has to be something to it. Interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences? Maybe watching them suck another guy is another reason you mainly go for bi guys? Ha ha!" I'll let you know if it ever happens | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... " I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing. | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing. " I'll do a survey for bi single men. See if that makes any difference | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing. I'll do a survey for bi single men. See if that makes any difference "Nice one | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing." To be honest, and based on my own experience, I think that view is somewhat skewed - sure there are those that won't meet bisexual men, but there are more that either actively seek us, or who aren't bothered by it either way. I think the delusion that chances of a meet are increased by labelling straight on here is just another excuse used by those that struggle to get a meet anyway and look for something to blame other than themselves. | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing." An interesting experiment would be to have 2 identical profiles. Same pics, text and location, one bi one straight. | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing. I'll do a survey for bi single men. See if that makes any difference "You should get a job with the ONS. | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing. I'll do a survey for bi single men. See if that makes any difference
You should get a job with the ONS."How do you know he doesn't and is just using us to fill his quotas? | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing. An interesting experiment would be to have 2 identical profiles. Same pics, text and location, one bi one straight. " Would you meet me on my straight profile then?  | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing. An interesting experiment would be to have 2 identical profiles. Same pics, text and location, one bi one straight. Would you meet me on my straight profile then? "No, I wouldn't put you through the horror of meeting me. | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing." I don't see a difference in interest between this profile or my straight profile. | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing. I don't see a difference in interest between this profile or my straight profile. " Are they the same apart from the sexuality tick difference? | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing. An interesting experiment would be to have 2 identical profiles. Same pics, text and location, one bi one straight. Would you meet me on my straight profile then?
No, I wouldn't put you through the horror of meeting me. "Ditto. Our mutual compassion is touching | |||
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"This is another survey. This time for people who play with couples and is an attempt to discover if having a bi male in a couple makes it easier or harder to meet. So, if you got a message from a couple where the male was bi, but willing to play straight would you : 1. Definitely not meet 2. Be less likely to meet 3. It would make no difference. 4. Be more likely to meet. As before, if you don't feel you fit into these categories, please ignore the thread. Otherwise, just say a number. Results at 10pm tonight We're a 4 (obviously). " Would have no issue with it.would just make it clear there would be no bi play between the guys. Anyone who has an issue with it is clearly a bigot | |||
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"1. Just as we wouldn’t meet a couple with a straight lady. Plenty of choice out in the swinging world, before we get lambasted, I (female) would be frustrated if we are meeting a couple we find attractive and I couldn’t play with the lady, so we don’t If a bi couple were attracted to us surely the bi guy would be frustrated not being able to play with hubby Hence we pick people compatible with us" I love your perspective on it. | |||
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"The results.... Definitely not meet 0 Less likely to meet 1 (2%) No difference 21 (60%) More likely to meet 13 (38%) If that's anything to go by, it would seem bi men in couples actually have an advantage... I wonder about bi-men in general. There has always been a view that bi-men reduce their chances of a meet signicantly over straight men. Hence the number who prefer to not disclose their sexuality. I wonder if that is changing. I don't see a difference in interest between this profile or my straight profile. Are they the same apart from the sexuality tick difference?" No. | |||
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"1. Just as we wouldn’t meet a couple with a straight lady. Plenty of choice out in the swinging world, before we get lambasted, I (female) would be frustrated if we are meeting a couple we find attractive and I couldn’t play with the lady, so we don’t If a bi couple were attracted to us surely the bi guy would be frustrated not being able to play with hubby Hence we pick people compatible with us" Whilst I respect your view and your preferences and am NOT trying to persuade you to change them - as a bisexual male I question, and to an extent object to the statement: "If a bi couple were attracted to us surely the bi guy would be frustrated not being able to play with hubby" Bisexual is someone who is happy to play with either gender, it doesn't mean they *only* play with both genders, or aren't able to *only* play with the opposite gender. It doesn't mean we are "frustrated" when a situation arises where playing with the same gender is not an option either, or that we are *always* looking to play with both genders. Believe it or not someone who is bisexual is perfectly capable of respecting boundaries and isn't sitting eyeing up the straight guys cock thinking "I wish I could suck that" or feeling "frustrated" because they can't. I've played with straight couples many a time at clubs etc, and had a fantastic time mostly, and never once has it occurred to me that it was "frustrating" I couldn't play with the guy. Yes, there are *some* bisexual people who will try to push or overstep boundaries, and they should rightly be taken to task - just as *anyone* who oversteps a boundary should regardless of sexuality. | |||
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"3 - which might sound odd given my sexuality but it really would make no difference to me whether bi play was on the cards or not It's not even about the bi play for me. I may get lambasted for saying this, but over the years I've found that bi men have been more relaxed and open, more affectionate, more comfortable in their own skin and fun to be around. A friend's husband asked me some time back why I seemed to meet bi men more, and I hadn't actually realised until he pointed it out to me that it was true, so I thought it over and those were my conclusions. Straight men I met often (but not always I should stress) seemed to have something to prove and sometimes even seemed more concerned about getting a great veri than actually relaxing and simply enjoying their time to the max. I've rarely met a straight man more than once. My longest and happiest Fab relationships have been with bi men. Maybe it is just coincidental... But there has to be something to it. Interested to hear if anyone else has had similar experiences? Maybe watching them suck another guy is another reason you mainly go for bi guys? Ha ha! I'll let you know if it ever happens "Ha ha ha!! I think we both know the truth  | |||
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"1. Just as we wouldn’t meet a couple with a straight lady. Plenty of choice out in the swinging world, before we get lambasted, I (female) would be frustrated if we are meeting a couple we find attractive and I couldn’t play with the lady, so we don’t If a bi couple were attracted to us surely the bi guy would be frustrated not being able to play with hubby Hence we pick people compatible with us Whilst I respect your view and your preferences and am NOT trying to persuade you to change them - as a bisexual male I question, and to an extent object to the statement: "If a bi couple were attracted to us surely the bi guy would be frustrated not being able to play with hubby" Bisexual is someone who is happy to play with either gender, it doesn't mean they *only* play with both genders, or aren't able to *only* play with the opposite gender. It doesn't mean we are "frustrated" when a situation arises where playing with the same gender is not an option either, or that we are *always* looking to play with both genders. Believe it or not someone who is bisexual is perfectly capable of respecting boundaries and isn't sitting eyeing up the straight guys cock thinking "I wish I could suck that" or feeling "frustrated" because they can't. I've played with straight couples many a time at clubs etc, and had a fantastic time mostly, and never once has it occurred to me that it was "frustrating" I couldn't play with the guy. Yes, there are *some* bisexual people who will try to push or overstep boundaries, and they should rightly be taken to task - just as *anyone* who oversteps a boundary should regardless of sexuality." You misinterpreted our post, it’s not about over stepping the mark etc etc, it’s justsbout us playing with compatible people and when you can be choosy you pick those most compatable, it’s that simple | |||
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"1. Just as we wouldn’t meet a couple with a straight lady. Plenty of choice out in the swinging world, before we get lambasted, I (female) would be frustrated if we are meeting a couple we find attractive and I couldn’t play with the lady, so we don’t If a bi couple were attracted to us surely the bi guy would be frustrated not being able to play with hubby Hence we pick people compatible with us Whilst I respect your view and your preferences and am NOT trying to persuade you to change them - as a bisexual male I question, and to an extent object to the statement: "If a bi couple were attracted to us surely the bi guy would be frustrated not being able to play with hubby" Bisexual is someone who is happy to play with either gender, it doesn't mean they *only* play with both genders, or aren't able to *only* play with the opposite gender. It doesn't mean we are "frustrated" when a situation arises where playing with the same gender is not an option either, or that we are *always* looking to play with both genders. Believe it or not someone who is bisexual is perfectly capable of respecting boundaries and isn't sitting eyeing up the straight guys cock thinking "I wish I could suck that" or feeling "frustrated" because they can't. I've played with straight couples many a time at clubs etc, and had a fantastic time mostly, and never once has it occurred to me that it was "frustrating" I couldn't play with the guy. Yes, there are *some* bisexual people who will try to push or overstep boundaries, and they should rightly be taken to task - just as *anyone* who oversteps a boundary should regardless of sexuality. You misinterpreted our post, it’s not about over stepping the mark etc etc, it’s justsbout us playing with compatible people and when you can be choosy you pick those most compatable, it’s that simple" Like I said, I'm not questioning your preferences or choices at all - they're your prerogative and to be respected. What I would question though is the assertion that just because someone is bisexual and you aren't, that they will be "frustrated" by that - as a bisexual male I am perfectly capable of having a fantastic time without my bisexuality being expressed. In other words, all other things being equal, I don't think bisexuality has anything to do with "compatability" if everyone is happy to play straight (which I have been on many occasions when the people I have been playing with have been straight). | |||
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"1. Just as we wouldn’t meet a couple with a straight lady. Plenty of choice out in the swinging world, before we get lambasted, I (female) would be frustrated if we are meeting a couple we find attractive and I couldn’t play with the lady, so we don’t If a bi couple were attracted to us surely the bi guy would be frustrated not being able to play with hubby Hence we pick people compatible with us Whilst I respect your view and your preferences and am NOT trying to persuade you to change them - as a bisexual male I question, and to an extent object to the statement: "If a bi couple were attracted to us surely the bi guy would be frustrated not being able to play with hubby" Bisexual is someone who is happy to play with either gender, it doesn't mean they *only* play with both genders, or aren't able to *only* play with the opposite gender. It doesn't mean we are "frustrated" when a situation arises where playing with the same gender is not an option either, or that we are *always* looking to play with both genders. Believe it or not someone who is bisexual is perfectly capable of respecting boundaries and isn't sitting eyeing up the straight guys cock thinking "I wish I could suck that" or feeling "frustrated" because they can't. I've played with straight couples many a time at clubs etc, and had a fantastic time mostly, and never once has it occurred to me that it was "frustrating" I couldn't play with the guy. Yes, there are *some* bisexual people who will try to push or overstep boundaries, and they should rightly be taken to task - just as *anyone* who oversteps a boundary should regardless of sexuality. You misinterpreted our post, it’s not about over stepping the mark etc etc, it’s justsbout us playing with compatible people and when you can be choosy you pick those most compatable, it’s that simple Like I said, I'm not questioning your preferences or choices at all - they're your prerogative and to be respected. What I would question though is the assertion that just because someone is bisexual and you aren't, that they will be "frustrated" by that - as a bisexual male I am perfectly capable of having a fantastic time without my bisexuality being expressed. In other words, all other things being equal, I don't think bisexuality has anything to do with "compatability" if everyone is happy to play straight (which I have been on many occasions when the people I have been playing with have been straight)." Still not getting our point, we choose to play with straight guys and bi girls as that is our preference, Coco isn’t happy playing straight as she likes the bi play, we would expect anyone else to play straight because Monty is, hence why we choose who we do, single bi guys such as yourself will compromise we don’t, that’s our choice, what others do is up to them x | |||
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" Still not getting our point, we choose to play with straight guys and bi girls as that is our preference, Coco isn’t happy playing straight as she likes the bi play, we would expect anyone else to play straight because Monty is, hence why we choose who we do, single bi guys such as yourself will compromise we don’t, that’s our choice, what others do is up to them x" I've got your point from the beginning as I have made perfectly clear several times by saying I respect your preferences and choices completely, and am NOT expecting you to compromise them. On the other hand however I think you've completely missed my point questioning the assumption you made that a bisexual guy would "surely be "frustrated" by not being able to play with someone who is straight. This isn't about your preferences (which I say again I respect completely and am N0T trying to change) but about your statement assuming bisexual men would be frustrated. | |||
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" Still not getting our point, we choose to play with straight guys and bi girls as that is our preference, Coco isn’t happy playing straight as she likes the bi play, we would expect anyone else to play straight because Monty is, hence why we choose who we do, single bi guys such as yourself will compromise we don’t, that’s our choice, what others do is up to them x I've got your point from the beginning as I have made perfectly clear several times by saying I respect your preferences and choices completely, and am NOT expecting you to compromise them. On the other hand however I think you've completely missed my point questioning the assumption you made that a bisexual guy would "surely be "frustrated" by not being able to play with someone who is straight. This isn't about your preferences (which I say again I respect completely and am N0T trying to change) but about your statement assuming bisexual men would be frustrated." Or another way for us to put it is why would anyone compromise in expressing there sexuality in play just to get a play? We don’t and dont want to play with people who would compromise there own sexuality. | |||
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" Still not getting our point, we choose to play with straight guys and bi girls as that is our preference, Coco isn’t happy playing straight as she likes the bi play, we would expect anyone else to play straight because Monty is, hence why we choose who we do, single bi guys such as yourself will compromise we don’t, that’s our choice, what others do is up to them x I've got your point from the beginning as I have made perfectly clear several times by saying I respect your preferences and choices completely, and am NOT expecting you to compromise them. On the other hand however I think you've completely missed my point questioning the assumption you made that a bisexual guy would "surely be "frustrated" by not being able to play with someone who is straight. This isn't about your preferences (which I say again I respect completely and am N0T trying to change) but about your statement assuming bisexual men would be frustrated." I have to agree the last thing I have felt in a straight mfm is frustration at not being able to play with the other guy. My focus was on giving pleasure to the woman and getting pleasured by her. My lsexual practice for the last 9 years has been heterosexual | |||
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" Still not getting our point, we choose to play with straight guys and bi girls as that is our preference, Coco isn’t happy playing straight as she likes the bi play, we would expect anyone else to play straight because Monty is, hence why we choose who we do, single bi guys such as yourself will compromise we don’t, that’s our choice, what others do is up to them x I've got your point from the beginning as I have made perfectly clear several times by saying I respect your preferences and choices completely, and am NOT expecting you to compromise them. On the other hand however I think you've completely missed my point questioning the assumption you made that a bisexual guy would "surely be "frustrated" by not being able to play with someone who is straight. This isn't about your preferences (which I say again I respect completely and am N0T trying to change) but about your statement assuming bisexual men would be frustrated. Or another way for us to put it is why would anyone compromise in expressing there sexuality in play just to get a play? We don’t and dont want to play with people who would compromise there own sexuality." It's not compromising my sexuality though - and certainly not "just to get a play" - just because I sometimes enjoy playing with men, doesn't mean I want to all the time, or am compromising when doing so is not an option. Or to put it another way, when you play together, just the two of you, are you compromising because another lady isn't present? Of course you're not, it's situational - just the same as it is when I have played with other straight couples and had a fantastic time. Or to use another example, I have an interest in BDSM, but it doesn't mean I expect whips and chains every time I play, nor am I compromising my submissive side when I meet someone with no interest in that. Like I said, how and who you choose to meet is entirely up to you and to be respected totally - I was just trying to understand why you'd think a bisexual would be frustrated when bisexual play is not an option - because I certainly am not, my bisexuality is just a part of my sexuality, just the same as my submissive side is, and my ability to enjoy "straight" sex is - they're not all mutually required or expected each and every time I play, and there's no compromise when any of them are not present. | |||
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