FabSwingers.com forum: No way !

By *loswingers OP Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

So a girl of 15 fucks off to join isis in Syria , gets married to a terrorist , has 2 kids that both die , gets pregnant a third time at 18 and decides she wants to come back to Britain as our nhs May help this one stay alive ! You couldn’t make this shit up !

She doesn’t regret anything , she’s seen the shit isis do including heads in bins , the killing and so on , and none of it phases her . She seems oblivious to the sheer terror and abominations they get up to . But isis are on the decline and we have a much better life for her and her offspring , so she figures she can just hop on a plane and come back .

I say no way , she’s made her bed etc.....

What say you lot ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say Isis need people in Britain to oversee what happens with the UK after Brexit.

Call me cynical but surely you cannot just walk away from an extremest group so publicly and live? Too much of a risk for them to not have their secrets spilled surely.

I would bet cash that she is still active with Isis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I say Isis need people in Britain to oversee what happens with the UK after Brexit.

Call me cynical but surely you cannot just walk away from an extremest group so publicly and live? Too much of a risk for them to not have their secrets spilled surely.

I would bet cash that she is still active with Isis.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

I wouldn't let her back in. Let her child in - it's not their fault.

I have facepalmed a few times today after seeing Facebook posts saying if she's let in she should be deported back to her own country immediately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I say Isis need people in Britain to oversee what happens with the UK after Brexit.

Call me cynical but surely you cannot just walk away from an extremest group so publicly and live? Too much of a risk for them to not have their secrets spilled surely.

I would bet cash that she is still active with Isis.

The government will definitely get home, she's got too much Intelfor them not to.

I'd say the SAS are on the case already...if she's not actually back in British hands by now.

Something about isn't ringing quite true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say stop reading newspapers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest i think British people who join isis should lose there right to have a British passport and be band from returning to UK for every even there off spring too so none of there have the right to live here.

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By *loswingers OP Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"I say stop reading newspapers.

Or watching the news , or having news on my iPad ?

Infact it was the tv news story that brought this to my attention , and not a newspaper , although I believe it was a Times journalist who spoke to her ..

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall

"I say Isis need people in Britain to oversee what happens with the UK after Brexit.

Call me cynical but surely you cannot just walk away from an extremest group so publicly and live? Too much of a risk for them to not have their secrets spilled surely.

Glad it wasn't just me thinking along this line. Just can't see how she could leave Isis to come here unless there was an alterior motive.

We should deny her access to the UK. Shouldn't even be debated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be honest i think British people who join isis should lose there right to have a British passport and be band from returning to UK for every even there off spring too so none of there have the right to live here.

You do know that Cameron unbanned the group that bombed Manchester, don't you?

What Should Dave be doing now? About 25 years if I had my way.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"So a girl of 15 fucks off to join isis in Syria , gets married to a terrorist , has 2 kids that both die , gets pregnant a third time at 18 and decides she wants to come back to Britain as our nhs May help this one stay alive ! You couldn’t make this shit up !

I say no way , she’s made her bed etc.....

What say you lot ? "

I say ........... let her back in.

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By *loswingers OP Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

I say no way , she’s made her bed etc.....

What say you lot ?

I say ........... let her back in. "

Seriously ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The government will definitely get home, she's got too much Intelfor them not to.

I'd say the SAS are on the case already...if she's not actually back in British hands by now.

Something about isn't ringing quite true."

Agreed about her being back in Britain, they will want her monitored at the very least. And like you say, she will have inside intel.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Groomed as a child and now still only 19. Used for sex and condemned for that. Lost two of the children she bore and condemned for being pregnant a third time and wanting her child to live.

I'll stop reading now as I can imagine the responses from the good folk of the forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I say stop reading newspapers.

Or watching the news , or having news on my iPad ?

Infact it was the tv news story that brought this to my attention , and not a newspaper , although I believe it was a Times journalist who spoke to her .."

I had to Google the story because I don't read or watch the news.

I'm not saying I'm better

I just think that sensationalism by journalists etc ..is what causes hatred in most of our bubbles.

I doubt that most of us even know where Syria is without Google.

Stories like this just facilitate hatred.

Who knows what the truth is.

We only have the story that is told to us.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I say no way , she’s made her bed etc.....

What say you lot ?

I say ........... let her back in.

Seriously ? "

Yes. It's not something i'd joke about.

How high do you want to hang her ?

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By *loswingers OP Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Groomed as a child and now still only 19. Used for sex and condemned for that. Lost two of the children she bore and condemned for being pregnant a third time and wanting her child to live.

I'll stop reading now as I can imagine the responses from the good folk of the forum.

She and her two friends seemed perfectly happy to go . The father of one of them was crying his eyes out as he was told his daughter may still be alive . You choose to think she was groomed and somehow the whole thing was against her will ?

It’s this kind of nonsense that makes it so easy for terrorist groupies to infiltrate our society

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By *loswingers OP Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

I say no way , she’s made her bed etc.....

What say you lot ?

I say ........... let her back in.

Seriously ?

Yes. It's not something i'd joke about.

How high do you want to hang her ? "

I don’t want to hang her , but she chose to do what she did .

She seems oblivious to the awful stuff isis do , and she’s actively been a part of it for over three years .

So I see no logical reason why we would let her back .

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Groomed as a child and now still only 19. Used for sex and condemned for that. Lost two of the children she bore and condemned for being pregnant a third time and wanting her child to live.

I'll stop reading now as I can imagine the responses from the good folk of the forum.

It’s this kind of nonsense that makes it so easy for terrorist groupies to infiltrate our society

C'mon Glos. You've usually engaged your brain before speaking.

FIFTEEN doesn't make her the brain of anything

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I say no way , she’s made her bed etc.....

What say you lot ?

I say ........... let her back in.

Seriously ?

Yes. It's not something i'd joke about.

How high do you want to hang her ?

I don’t want to hang her , but she chose to do what she did .

She seems oblivious to the awful stuff isis do , and she’s actively been a part of it for over three years .

So I see no logical reason why we would let her back ."

Agreed ! Let's round up all the fifteen year olds in Britain who haven't fully comprehended the workings of the world and shoot the fucking lot of them.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Groomed as a child and now still only 19. Used for sex and condemned for that. Lost two of the children she bore and condemned for being pregnant a third time and wanting her child to live.

I'll stop reading now as I can imagine the responses from the good folk of the forum.

It’s this kind of nonsense that makes it so easy for terrorist groupies to infiltrate our society

Girls being groomed for sex, and to facilitate crime and all manner of things is not uncommon. Nor is them being condemned for it. She and her friends were children - under definition of law and what we as a society accepts.

I'm sure you and every other person who has been a teenager made entirely rational decisions about everything as a teenager. Some decisions are worse than others, of course they are, but do not discount their age as nothing.

I knew I should have clicked away.

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By *loswingers OP Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Groomed as a child and now still only 19. Used for sex and condemned for that. Lost two of the children she bore and condemned for being pregnant a third time and wanting her child to live.

I'll stop reading now as I can imagine the responses from the good folk of the forum.

It’s this kind of nonsense that makes it so easy for terrorist groupies to infiltrate our society

C'mon Glos. You've usually engaged your brain before speaking.

FIFTEEN doesn't make her the brain of anything"

The interview was done when she is 19 .

She seems totally ok with what isis have done , somewhat hardened I would say .

It’s hardky a deterrent to other potential kids who may be brainwashed in the future if we just welcome her back is it ?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

I suppose at least this thread is more civilised than the one in politics whereupon posters are getting all frothy concocting fantasy deaths for her and her unborn child.

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By *loswingers OP Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"I suppose at least this thread is more civilised than the one in politics whereupon posters are getting all frothy concocting fantasy deaths for her and her unborn child."

I haven’t seen that , but that seems extreme .

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"Groomed as a child and now still only 19. Used for sex and condemned for that. Lost two of the children she bore and condemned for being pregnant a third time and wanting her child to live.

I'll stop reading now as I can imagine the responses from the good folk of the forum.

It’s this kind of nonsense that makes it so easy for terrorist groupies to infiltrate our society

C'mon Glos. You've usually engaged your brain before speaking.

FIFTEEN doesn't make her the brain of anything

The interview was done when she is 19 .

She seems totally ok with what isis have done , somewhat hardened I would say .

It’s hardky a deterrent to other potential kids who may be brainwashed in the future if we just welcome her back is it ? "

Do you know how grooming works? You don't just suddenly snap out of brainwashing on your 18th birthday.

It's sadly why child soldiers are so effective, if you are that way inclined, you can manipulate them in a way that's hard to achieve in adults.

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By *lceeWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I say let her back in. She’ll be on terrorist watchlists for years, her every move and word monitored and she knows that. We have to show people that leaving, that even doing what she has done, doesn’t mean that we are without mercy and compassion. That there is always hope that you can find your way back. That we always believe that there is something left worth saving.

Otherwise, we might as well put heads in bags.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

She must have been vulnerable at fifteen to have been 'lured' away. Who is to say that she is capable of independent thought now or was then.

If we accept that 'isis' are manipulative , brain washing sort of chaps - then why aren't we compassionate toward a 'child' who was entrapped ?

Isn't it a mark of a society - the way it treats others ?

Do you want to condemn her to a life with Isis? Behead her in a public square ?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"I suppose at least this thread is more civilised than the one in politics whereupon posters are getting all frothy concocting fantasy deaths for her and her unborn child.

I haven’t seen that , but that seems extreme ."

The irony of people condemning ISIS and then wanting 19 year old girls put to death and their babies allowed to rot is not lost on me.

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By *lceeWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"I say let her back in. She’ll be on terrorist watchlists for years, her every move and word monitored and she knows that. We have to show people that leaving, that even doing what she has done, doesn’t mean that we are without mercy and compassion. That there is always hope that you can find your way back. That we always believe that there is something left worth saving.

Otherwise, we might as well put heads in bags. "

At least...I believe those things. I find it inutterably sad that someone couldn’t.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Otherwise, we might as well put heads in bags. "

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I suppose at least this thread is more civilised than the one in politics whereupon posters are getting all frothy concocting fantasy deaths for her and her unborn child.

I haven’t seen that , but that seems extreme .

The irony of people condemning ISIS and then wanting 19 year old girls put to death and their babies allowed to rot is not lost on me. "

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By *loswingers OP Couple
over a year ago

Gloucester

As JimiUK says , you don’t just grow out of brainwashing on your 18th birthday . So letting her back would be a risky move as she clearly has been brainwashed .

Do those who think she is hard done by know how to uncondition a conditioned mind ?

I know I don’t , and I’m not suggesting we put her head in a bag . I’m saying she should realise that she chose this life that she now has , however naive that may have been . And other gullible kids may learn from this sad situation .

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I say no way , she’s made her bed etc.....

What say you lot ? "

My head says no as well as my heart, but I know the UK will sneak her back in unfortunately!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If she does return she should be locked up for life .. interrogated for info.

Her child removed by social services and put into care because she is too dangerous to the kid being associated with terrorism, for all you know father could still be alive and take the kid.

Either way she chose wrong.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Fact of the matter is regardless of whether she was groomed (which she clearly must have been) she's a British citizen who holds a British passport and therefore has to be allowed back in - to think she'll be allowed back to a life of freedom and sponging off the NHS until she decides to return to ISIS is somewhat naive.

As soon as she steps off the plane she'll be detained, and yes she'll get the maternity care she's entitled to as a British citizen but as others have pointed out she'll be extensively interviewed for any information she may have on ISIS and may well face criminal charges and a period in jail for any of her ISIS related activity.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

The fantasy posts about her living the life of Riley, swimming in benefit cash largely unscrutinised are at least, funny, unlike the death fantasy wank ones

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"If she does return she should be locked up for life .. interrogated for info.

Her child removed by social services and put into care because she is too dangerous to the kid being associated with terrorism, for all you know father could still be alive and take the kid.

Either way she chose wrong."

A good job was done on you

your own government poses a great threat to your wellbeing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For starters she’s not going to be able to fly back to UK being 9 months pregnant so she won’t be giving birth here.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"The fantasy posts about her living the life of Riley, swimming in benefit cash largely unscrutinised are at least, funny, unlike the death fantasy wank ones "

Have I ever taken the time to tell you that I secretly like the thinks you say ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

thinks........... what a happy accident

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By *om and JennieCouple
over a year ago

Chams or Socials

"For starters she’s not going to be able to fly back to UK being 9 months pregnant so she won’t be giving birth here.

This was the 1st thing that went through my mind. Too far gone to safely fly....

If she does return, who’s to say she won’t try to radicalise others?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"For starters she’s not going to be able to fly back to UK being 9 months pregnant so she won’t be giving birth here.

This was the 1st thing that went through my mind. Too far gone to safely fly....

If she does return, who’s to say she won’t try to radicalise others?

J "

What does radicalise mean ?

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"For starters she’s not going to be able to fly back to UK being 9 months pregnant so she won’t be giving birth here.

This was the 1st thing that went through my mind. Too far gone to safely fly....

If she does return, who’s to say she won’t try to radicalise others?

J "

You think she'll be left alone to do whatever she chooses?

I'm pretty sure that nobody releases ex child soldiers into the wider community without a psychiatric assessment/internment.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"The fantasy posts about her living the life of Riley, swimming in benefit cash largely unscrutinised are at least, funny, unlike the death fantasy wank ones

Have I ever taken the time to tell you that I secretly like the thinks you say ? "

I try.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn't let her back in. Let her child in - it's not their fault.

I have facepalmed a few times today after seeing Facebook posts saying if she's let in she should be deported back to her own country immediately.

Facebook is on a roll with this story

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton

You do know that Cameron unbanned the group that bombed Manchester, don't you?

What Should Dave be doing now? About 25 years if I had my way."

He also quit as pm the minute the Brexit vote went against him , Like most politicians he's spineless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn't let her back in. Let her child in - it's not their fault.

I have facepalmed a few times today after seeing Facebook posts saying if she's let in she should be deported back to her own country immediately.

Facebook is on a roll with this story

I thought mine would be but thankfully it hasn’t

which is handy as I don’t have to go through unfollowing people like I did for Brexit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well it keeps her off the streets. We all need a hobby.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let her come ss take her baby and adopt it out. Then ship her back no contact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shamima Begum has UK citizenship revoked by British government so it been told on itv...

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/853844

Theres a new thread about it already running here, so Ill close this one and keep all the comments on the one thread

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