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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I don’t like it when a guy on here asks early on if you have kids. Just think given the nature of the site there isn’t a need to ask about children. I actually like this place cos you don’t have to declare if you have children, like most dating sites.

Does it creep anyone else out?

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By *eet3sumCouple
over a year ago

bognor

I think it's wired too if they ask we never relay

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

I could be wrong of course ... but maybe one of the reasons for their asking is assessing the likelihood of last minute cancel sure to kid issues ... and if you're tight or not down there

But agree... no one's business ... and wrong to even make it a factor for meets etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not realy anyone else's business.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No not really. It’s one of the things I usually ask people. Maybe I’m creepy then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When i had a proper profile i used to say on it that i was a single mum and was therefore unlikely to do last minute meets, so peeps could make an informed choice

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I could be wrong of course ... but maybe one of the reasons for their asking is assessing the likelihood of last minute cancel sure to kid issues ... and if you're tight or not down there

But agree... no one's business ... and wrong to even make it a factor for meets etc"

For tightness The textbooks say that it would take 5 separate consecutive vaginal births for the vagina walls to loosen beyond repair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. I am quite open about it.

No need for it to be a big deal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair, it can make logistics more difficult. Especillay of the guy has kids too. Seems whenever I getting chatting to someone who has children their schedules clash with mine almost entirely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I could be wrong of course ... but maybe one of the reasons for their asking is assessing the likelihood of last minute cancel sure to kid issues ... and if you're tight or not down there

But agree... no one's business ... and wrong to even make it a factor for meets etc

For tightness The textbooks say that it would take 5 separate consecutive vaginal births for the vagina walls to loosen beyond repair. "

Depends how big the baby is i guess

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"I could be wrong of course ... but maybe one of the reasons for their asking is assessing the likelihood of last minute cancel sure to kid issues ... and if you're tight or not down there

But agree... no one's business ... and wrong to even make it a factor for meets etc

For tightness The textbooks say that it would take 5 separate consecutive vaginal births for the vagina walls to loosen beyond repair. "

I dunno what goes through these guy's heads ... for them to know that they'd have to read ...

It is a common fallacy then some guys have

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

There are many other things that can affect scheduling. It’s none of my business whether anybody has children.

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By *hortieWoman
over a year ago

Northampton

I wouldn't specifically ask a guy if he had kids. But if he mentioned he had, I'd run a mile, cause I hate kids.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some ask for different reasons some innocent reasons others so they know if its going to be difficult to meet and yet others for darker reasons. In reality its better not to disclose on here as it can encourage the wrong sort.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

I agree..i dont even like being asked if i am married..

I know for some its important but i think job,marital status etc is totally irrelevant for me.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Depends on who's asking. I guess a tiny minority could possibly have ulterior motives but I tend to think in most instances it just making conversation and allowing for child free time, or not having to as the case maybe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't specifically ask a guy if he had kids. But if he mentioned he had, I'd run a mile, cause I hate kids. "

Why- it's not like he's gonna bring an to a meet now, is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t like it when a guy on here asks early on if you have kids. Just think given the nature of the site there isn’t a need to ask about children. I actually like this place cos you don’t have to declare if you have children, like most dating sites.

Does it creep anyone else out?

"

Not at all. I’ve asked guys the same and couples, as I factor that children can affect when folks can meet. School nights are off etc. Not creepy at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't specifically ask a guy if he had kids. But if he mentioned he had, I'd run a mile, cause I hate kids. "

I don’t like kids but I’m not going to marry than man so wouldn’t matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesn't bother me when I'm asked. My kids are all grown up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I could be wrong of course ... but maybe one of the reasons for their asking is assessing the likelihood of last minute cancel sure to kid issues ... and if you're tight or not down there

But agree... no one's business ... and wrong to even make it a factor for meets etc

For tightness The textbooks say that it would take 5 separate consecutive vaginal births for the vagina walls to loosen beyond repair. "

That's not necessarily true. My mum had 5 children by natural delivery. My parents sex life is still very much active. Even heard them at it in the past.. ewww lol.

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I've got friends who have had 5 and more kids. Their sex lives are alive and kicking. Got to be considering how many kids she's had. I know from girly chats, her husband isn't big below either. They have no issues.

The vagina is a muscle. No matter how it's stretched, with pelvic floor exercises, the vagina can go back to her original shape.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't specifically ask a guy if he had kids. But if he mentioned he had, I'd run a mile, cause I hate kids.

Why- it's not like he's gonna bring an to a meet now, is it? "

I've been to a few meets with a woman as her sub/slave her kid was there either asleep or toddling about. Nothing sexual happened with the kid in the room!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't specifically ask a guy if he had kids. But if he mentioned he had, I'd run a mile, cause I hate kids.

Why- it's not like he's gonna bring an to a meet now, is it?

I've been to a few meets with a woman as her sub/slave her kid was there either asleep or toddling about. Nothing sexual happened with the kid in the room! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't specifically ask a guy if he had kids. But if he mentioned he had, I'd run a mile, cause I hate kids.

Why- it's not like he's gonna bring an to a meet now, is it?

I've been to a few meets with a woman as her sub/slave her kid was there either asleep or toddling about. Nothing sexual happened with the kid in the room! "

Yes but that is not normal behaviour.

And not meeting a man because he has kids would preclude an awful lot of men!

I just think it's odd not to meet someone because they have children. If you like them, you work it out.

Unless, of course, you are looking for a relationship? Then it could be a factor in your decision making, of course!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree..i dont even like being asked if i am married..

I know for some its important but i think job,marital status etc is totally irrelevant for me."

I think being married is a perfectly valid question to ask, given the number of "single" men on here who actually aren't.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"I agree..i dont even like being asked if i am married..

I know for some its important but i think job,marital status etc is totally irrelevant for me.

I think being married is a perfectly valid question to ask, given the number of "single" men on here who actually aren't."

You mean some of them are bending the truth????

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I don't advertise I have kids, but don't hide it either - think it would depend how and by whom I was asked whether I'd answer or not, or more to the point how openly I'd answer (given that by posting to this thread I, and most other posters, have effectively confirmed we do have kids).

As I like to get to know a little about the people I am meeting, it'll usually come up at some point in conversation though.

As for having a meet with a child present, regardless of whether sex was involved - no way would I entertain that thought if it were a meet off here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't specifically ask a guy if he had kids. But if he mentioned he had, I'd run a mile, cause I hate kids.

Why- it's not like he's gonna bring an to a meet now, is it?

I've been to a few meets with a woman as her sub/slave her kid was there either asleep or toddling about. Nothing sexual happened with the kid in the room!

Yes but that is not normal behaviour.

And not meeting a man because he has kids would preclude an awful lot of men!

I just think it's odd not to meet someone because they have children. If you like them, you work it out.

Unless, of course, you are looking for a relationship? Then it could be a factor in your decision making, of course!"

I understand why it wouldn’t matter if you meet lots of people for one offs but I don’t so anyone I meet would usually be a regular thing so it’s a friendship as well and we usually know quite a bit about each other. As it’s predominantly a swingers site I get why people would want to keep their private life totally private.

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By *eal_curves_is_backWoman
over a year ago

London


"I could be wrong of course ... but maybe one of the reasons for their asking is assessing the likelihood of last minute cancel sure to kid issues ... and if you're tight or not down there

But agree... no one's business ... and wrong to even make it a factor for meets etc

For tightness The textbooks say that it would take 5 separate consecutive vaginal births for the vagina walls to loosen beyond repair. "

Two have done nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"I agree..i dont even like being asked if i am married..

I know for some its important but i think job,marital status etc is totally irrelevant for me.

I think being married is a perfectly valid question to ask, given the number of "single" men on here who actually aren't.

You mean some of them are bending the truth????

No. Some of them are lying cunts cheating behind their wife's back "

But you have no opinion on the matter of course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree..i dont even like being asked if i am married..

I know for some its important but i think job,marital status etc is totally irrelevant for me."

I ask martial status because it is important to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree..i dont even like being asked if i am married..

I know for some its important but i think job,marital status etc is totally irrelevant for me.

I think being married is a perfectly valid question to ask, given the number of "single" men on here who actually aren't.

You mean some of them are bending the truth????

No. Some of them are lying cunts cheating behind their wife's back "

Taken emoji out as it's not funny and that was an accident!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't advertise I have kids, but don't hide it either - think it would depend how and by whom I was asked whether I'd answer or not, or more to the point how openly I'd answer (given that by posting to this thread I, and most other posters, have effectively confirmed we do have kids).

As I like to get to know a little about the people I am meeting, it'll usually come up at some point in conversation though.

As for having a meet with a child present, regardless of whether sex was involved - no way would I entertain that thought if it were a meet off here."

Same here, I like a mental connection so yes ask and yes say openly that I have simply because having children changes a person and we have things in common but I wouldnt go into detail. And wouldn't meet with anyone's children in the house as I wouldn't be comfortable at all.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

I mention it as my two are quite young and they are the reason i won’t meet NOW. I think, given my age, that a lot of men who contact me think i have kids in their 20’s and i’m just being awkward.

But i’m not. I was a later starter to Motherhood.

Plus i have a mum who has mobility issues and needs looking after and she gets a mention occasionally too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mention it as my two are quite young and they are the reason i won’t meet NOW. I think, given my age, that a lot of men who contact me think i have kids in their 20’s and i’m just being awkward.

But i’m not. I was a later starter to Motherhood.

Plus i have a mum who has mobility issues and needs looking after and she gets a mention occasionally too.

"

*Goes to look at age but cant!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t like it when a guy on here asks early on if you have kids. Just think given the nature of the site there isn’t a need to ask about children. I actually like this place cos you don’t have to declare if you have children, like most dating sites.

Does it creep anyone else out?

"

but do u have puppies?

ok seriously

i could not believe the utter twattness of a woman on a dating site..she displayed her sons report card... its clear the school, his name ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people might ask if they things kids might get in the way somehow.

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By *uffymayfairCouple
over a year ago

vera playa, Almeria

To us it very much depends when they ask and how, if it's one of the first things asked well that would be a bit strange but if after chatting for a while it come up it wouldn't be so bad.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"I don’t like it when a guy on here asks early on if you have kids. Just think given the nature of the site there isn’t a need to ask about children. I actually like this place cos you don’t have to declare if you have children, like most dating sites.

Does it creep anyone else out?

but do u have puppies?

ok seriously

i could not believe the utter twattness of a woman on a dating site..she displayed her sons report card... its clear the school, his name ..

"

Proud mum with no brain?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mention it as my two are quite young and they are the reason i won’t meet NOW. I think, given my age, that a lot of men who contact me think i have kids in their 20’s and i’m just being awkward.

But i’m not. I was a later starter to Motherhood.

Plus i have a mum who has mobility issues and needs looking after and she gets a mention occasionally too.

*Goes to look at age but cant!"

so anyway..when can I shag ya...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t like it when a guy on here asks early on if you have kids. Just think given the nature of the site there isn’t a need to ask about children. I actually like this place cos you don’t have to declare if you have children, like most dating sites.

Does it creep anyone else out?

"

It doesn't creep me out, occasionally it'll be a reason I can't meet someone or someone can't meet me, responsibility. I tend to meet women and couples close to my own age and we're in the same boat. I won't go into too much depth about them and neither will they, till we've got to know each other well enough to be friends.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people might ask if they think* kids might get in the way somehow."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mention it as my two are quite young and they are the reason i won’t meet NOW. I think, given my age, that a lot of men who contact me think i have kids in their 20’s and i’m just being awkward.

But i’m not. I was a later starter to Motherhood.

Plus i have a mum who has mobility issues and needs looking after and she gets a mention occasionally too.

*Goes to look at age but cant!"

I hotlisted so I could

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mention it as my two are quite young and they are the reason i won’t meet NOW. I think, given my age, that a lot of men who contact me think i have kids in their 20’s and i’m just being awkward.

But i’m not. I was a later starter to Motherhood.

Plus i have a mum who has mobility issues and needs looking after and she gets a mention occasionally too.

*Goes to look at age but cant!

so anyway..when can I shag ya... "

When you grow a foot and move your ass down here Paddy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mention it as my two are quite young and they are the reason i won’t meet NOW. I think, given my age, that a lot of men who contact me think i have kids in their 20’s and i’m just being awkward.

But i’m not. I was a later starter to Motherhood.

Plus i have a mum who has mobility issues and needs looking after and she gets a mention occasionally too.

*Goes to look at age but cant!

I hotlisted so I could "

Quality! You learn something new every day!

She is the same age as me- so I came to motherhood late as well!

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By *hortieWoman
over a year ago

Northampton


"I wouldn't specifically ask a guy if he had kids. But if he mentioned he had, I'd run a mile, cause I hate kids.

Why- it's not like he's gonna bring an to a meet now, is it?

I've been to a few meets with a woman as her sub/slave her kid was there either asleep or toddling about. Nothing sexual happened with the kid in the room!

Yes but that is not normal behaviour.

And not meeting a man because he has kids would preclude an awful lot of men!

I just think it's odd not to meet someone because they have children. If you like them, you work it out.

Unless, of course, you are looking for a relationship? Then it could be a factor in your decision making, of course!"

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If I'm meeting a guy off here, I'm generally after a potential fuck, not a life story. They can quite easily say 'oh sorry, my cars broken down' or 'my dog just died'... anything but telling me they got kids. Or a wife. Or whatever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what does piss me off is when I say I have grown up daughters and they ask if we have fucked the same men.

Or if I have fucked my son's friends.

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By *ade and VanessaCouple
over a year ago

Central Scotland

We're usually quite open in saying we can't meet often because of babysitters. Depends on the context of the question and how the chat is going if it's a weird thing to be asked or not and what my response would be.

V x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mention it as my two are quite young and they are the reason i won’t meet NOW. I think, given my age, that a lot of men who contact me think i have kids in their 20’s and i’m just being awkward.

But i’m not. I was a later starter to Motherhood.

Plus i have a mum who has mobility issues and needs looking after and she gets a mention occasionally too.

*Goes to look at age but cant!

I hotlisted so I could

Quality! You learn something new every day!

She is the same age as me- so I came to motherhood late as well! "

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"I don’t like it when a guy on here asks early on if you have kids. Just think given the nature of the site there isn’t a need to ask about children. I actually like this place cos you don’t have to declare if you have children, like most dating sites.

Does it creep anyone else out?

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You're looking for a monogamous husband though. A lot of men would wanna know if they want to take that on.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales


"I mention it as my two are quite young and they are the reason i won’t meet NOW. I think, given my age, that a lot of men who contact me think i have kids in their 20’s and i’m just being awkward.

But i’m not. I was a later starter to Motherhood.

Plus i have a mum who has mobility issues and needs looking after and she gets a mention occasionally too.

*Goes to look at age but cant!

I hotlisted so I could

Quality! You learn something new every day!

She is the same age as me- so I came to motherhood late as well! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do think that a little suspect. Forgive me if that upsets anyone, but used to be a copper.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"what does piss me off is when I say I have grown up daughters and they ask if we have fucked the same men.

Or if I have fucked my son's friends. "

Oh god. There’s some bloody strange folk on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t like it when a guy on here asks early on if you have kids. Just think given the nature of the site there isn’t a need to ask about children. I actually like this place cos you don’t have to declare if you have children, like most dating sites.

Does it creep anyone else out?

"

I dunno knowing in advance is far better than getting to a meet and veing told the kids are upstairs but "dont worry about them"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do think that a little suspect. Forgive me if that upsets anyone, but used to be a copper. "

I don't know why but I would find it creepier on a dating site than here as those are where a lot of paedophiles look for ladies with young kids to groom even though rationally it would be more common to ask as people are looking for relationships.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mention it as my two are quite young and they are the reason i won’t meet NOW. I think, given my age, that a lot of men who contact me think i have kids in their 20’s and i’m just being awkward.

But i’m not. I was a later starter to Motherhood.

Plus i have a mum who has mobility issues and needs looking after and she gets a mention occasionally too.

*Goes to look at age but cant!

I hotlisted so I could

Quality! You learn something new every day!

She is the same age as me- so I came to motherhood late as well!

"

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By *W ChapMan
over a year ago

Swindon

Maybe they're genuinely interested, could be a common topic to try and build a bond, got to be better than faf and here's my dick pic?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I was talking about like in the first or second message, not like after speaking for a while.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes early on in messaging I doubt I would tell them, it seems an odd thing to ask before finding out other things about you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t disclose anything you don’t want to to someone you think is a stranger. Problem solved.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

I can't see why it's at all weird. It's an obvious topic of conversation.

The idea that someone asking if have kids suggests an unhealthy interest in them is a testament to the paranoid society in which we live..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can't see why it's at all weird. It's an obvious topic of conversation.

The idea that someone asking if have kids suggests an unhealthy interest in them is a testament to the paranoid society in which we live.. "

Its not particulary that its just private lives are just that. Your kids may not wish to be talked about by their parents to random strangers if they knew.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

i never used to meet guys with young kids nor would i have entered a relationship with a guy with young kids

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t like it when a guy on here asks early on if you have kids. Just think given the nature of the site there isn’t a need to ask about children. I actually like this place cos you don’t have to declare if you have children, like most dating sites.

Does it creep anyone else out?

but do u have puppies?

ok seriously

i could not believe the utter twattness of a woman on a dating site..she displayed her sons report card... its clear the school, his name ..

"

Bloody hell!! Numpties do that on Facebook all the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't like any personal questions but the "do you have kids" question really pisses me off.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I dont like people asking what i do for a living. Its got fuck all to do with them

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If you’ve spoken for a decent amount of time then disclosure of that area of your private family life is ok.

In the first stages of conversation like after one or two messages I just feel it’s irrelevant to the site we’re on and it’s use.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never by message on here nope that's not right for me ...

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"If you’ve spoken for a decent amount of time then disclosure of that area of your private family life is ok.

In the first stages of conversation like after one or two messages I just feel it’s irrelevant to the site we’re on and it’s use. "

Asking so early in messages is creepy and I'd assume there was something very dodgy about them.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Hadnt been on here long and one guy actually asked me how much i earnt. Just came out with it in about the second message

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over a year ago


"If you’ve spoken for a decent amount of time then disclosure of that area of your private family life is ok.

In the first stages of conversation like after one or two messages I just feel it’s irrelevant to the site we’re on and it’s use.

Asking so early in messages is creepy and I'd assume there was something very dodgy about them. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't even like it when people say 'so whereabouts in Wales are you?' within the first few messages..

If i wanted everyone to know it would be on the profile!

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over a year ago


"If you’ve spoken for a decent amount of time then disclosure of that area of your private family life is ok.

In the first stages of conversation like after one or two messages I just feel it’s irrelevant to the site we’re on and it’s use. "

Ok, I'm with you then. I'd probably be suspicious. It's not a question I ask, or am asked unless it pops up in conversation naturally as we get to learn more about each other. Usually once it's got to arranging a meet stage, because it becomes quickly relevant then. After that, I may as well be talking to my friend anyway, so it no longer matters too much. I do take my children's security, both physical and mental (finding out at school that dad's a bi swinger for instance) very seriously. However, if I didn't let some people in, I'd be Cixi-no-mates. Hence why I put a bit of effort in and don't usually end up having to answer questions like that, so early on. Just block and avoid wierdos.

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By *ink Panther.Woman
over a year ago

Preston


"I agree..i dont even like being asked if i am married..

I know for some its important but i think job,marital status etc is totally irrelevant for me.

I think being married is a perfectly valid question to ask, given the number of "single" men on here who actually aren't."

Women are equally as guilty of that though

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham


"I don’t like it when a guy on here asks early on if you have kids. Just think given the nature of the site there isn’t a need to ask about children. I actually like this place cos you don’t have to declare if you have children, like most dating sites.

Does it creep anyone else out?

"

I kind of agree with you . But isn’t it a sad state of affairs that we are in a day and age whereby we have to be so guarded

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By *ink Panther.Woman
over a year ago

Preston

I hated the request of personal info within the first few messages and would terminate the conversation there. It’s a sex site not a dating site and how much personal info you wish to divulge is your choice. Initially I would disclose bugger all but that would change over time and the number of times we’d met. Bat shit crazy can’t hide itself for long so time is the only thing that will perhaps make me likely to divulge personal info. There are very few that even know my name never mind anything else on here. It’s a casual SEX site and lends itself to a certain level of anonymity if that’s how you wish to meet. Given some of the behaviour of the Hexenbiests on here there is no way on earth I’d disclose personal info that could identify me in the real world. The wrong emoji in the wrong place and your life could be turned upside down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP. Before you jump at me. This is just a thought.

We all have our points where we draw the line. That goes for most things. We all draw those lines differently. Honestly, it would be strange to me to be asked in a first message. However, again, we are all different.

I would think there are a few reasons that someone may ask.

Probably the most common(pure guess), would be the possibility of availability for meets.

Then there is the thought that a women who has had kids, is a bit looser than a woman that has not. Seeking out the tight pussy! Maybe if you put 'kegel exercise enthusiast', they may not ask the question. Lol

Another one is probably a little bit more controversial. This is not my theory but one that is out there. This refers specifically to single female parents. Some would suggest if a woman has kids and is either single, seperated, divorced or never married and not with father. The thought is that these women have questionable values. Why? Well, data indicates that two parent families mum and dad, are more stable and best for childrens development. The raising of kids is a the biggest responsibility that a human can have. In order to provide the best for children, they preferrably have two loving parents together. So if they aren't, there has been questionable decision making prior to having those children. Hence questioning the intelligence and sense of responsibility of the mother. Why? Well, the female has the control of reproduction. Therefore the decision making is ultimately theirs. So if she is a single parent. She has made bad decisions in the past. That is not my theory but i can understand the logic. Some will say, but the father was a ball bag. May be but the woman chose that ball bag and allowed it.

They may be some of the reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps they want to kno the state of your vadge jk jk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont tend to ask but as a Dad who has 50/50 care it means I have to plan and also school holidays can be difficult.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

Doesn’t bother me

Prefer them to know as I can have childcare issues which could result in me having to cancel

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By *onnie And Clyde9070Couple
over a year ago

Leeds


"I could be wrong of course ... but maybe one of the reasons for their asking is assessing the likelihood of last minute cancel sure to kid issues ... and if you're tight or not down there

But agree... no one's business ... and wrong to even make it a factor for meets etc

For tightness The textbooks say that it would take 5 separate consecutive vaginal births for the vagina walls to loosen beyond repair.

I dunno what goes through these guy's heads ... for them to know that they'd have to read ...

It is a common fallacy then some guys have"

Yep. Just like having a big dick automatically makes them good in bed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hated the request of personal info within the first few messages and would terminate the conversation there. It’s a sex site not a dating site and how much personal info you wish to divulge is your choice. Initially I would disclose bugger all but that would change over time and the number of times we’d met. Bat shit crazy can’t hide itself for long so time is the only thing that will perhaps make me likely to divulge personal info. There are very few that even know my name never mind anything else on here. It’s a casual SEX site and lends itself to a certain level of anonymity if that’s how you wish to meet. Given some of the behaviour of the Hexenbiests on here there is no way on earth I’d disclose personal info that could identify me in the real world. The wrong emoji in the wrong place and your life could be turned upside down "

I'd say it's a Swingers Site. Which is something that started with couple friends sharing their sex lives with each another. A bit like dating for couples, but swapping the romance part for friendship.

It's used as a casual sex site, or a dating site, or a Fetish site by lots of other people. The fact Swingers allow for the rest of you to use it as a sex site, is a testament to the Swingers who started the site up in the first place.

It's not your Fab, it's everyone's. It's not strictly THIS, THAT or the OTHER.

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

They can ask away about my kids ..... 3 lads over 6ft in their 30s

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP. Before you jump at me. This is just a thought.

We all have our points where we draw the line. That goes for most things. We all draw those lines differently. Honestly, it would be strange to me to be asked in a first message. However, again, we are all different.

I would think there are a few reasons that someone may ask.

Probably the most common(pure guess), would be the possibility of availability for meets.

Then there is the thought that a women who has had kids, is a bit looser than a woman that has not. Seeking out the tight pussy! Maybe if you put 'kegel exercise enthusiast', they may not ask the question. Lol

Another one is probably a little bit more controversial. This is not my theory but one that is out there. This refers specifically to single female parents. Some would suggest if a woman has kids and is either single, seperated, divorced or never married and not with father. The thought is that these women have questionable values. Why? Well, data indicates that two parent families mum and dad, are more stable and best for childrens development. The raising of kids is a the biggest responsibility that a human can have. In order to provide the best for children, they preferrably have two loving parents together. So if they aren't, there has been questionable decision making prior to having those children. Hence questioning the intelligence and sense of responsibility of the mother. Why? Well, the female has the control of reproduction. Therefore the decision making is ultimately theirs. So if she is a single parent. She has made bad decisions in the past. That is not my theory but i can understand the logic. Some will say, but the father was a ball bag. May be but the woman chose that ball bag and allowed it.

They may be some of the reasons.

"

Because men never lie about being decent human beings then turn into utter bleeping bleeps. It's always the woman's fault for picking a crap man.

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"OP. Before you jump at me. This is just a thought.

We all have our points where we draw the line. That goes for most things. We all draw those lines differently. Honestly, it would be strange to me to be asked in a first message. However, again, we are all different.

I would think there are a few reasons that someone may ask.

Probably the most common(pure guess), would be the possibility of availability for meets.

Then there is the thought that a women who has had kids, is a bit looser than a woman that has not. Seeking out the tight pussy! Maybe if you put 'kegel exercise enthusiast', they may not ask the question. Lol

Another one is probably a little bit more controversial. This is not my theory but one that is out there. This refers specifically to single female parents. Some would suggest if a woman has kids and is either single, seperated, divorced or never married and not with father. The thought is that these women have questionable values. Why? Well, data indicates that two parent families mum and dad, are more stable and best for childrens development. The raising of kids is a the biggest responsibility that a human can have. In order to provide the best for children, they preferrably have two loving parents together. So if they aren't, there has been questionable decision making prior to having those children. Hence questioning the intelligence and sense of responsibility of the mother. Why? Well, the female has the control of reproduction. Therefore the decision making is ultimately theirs. So if she is a single parent. She has made bad decisions in the past. That is not my theory but i can understand the logic. Some will say, but the father was a ball bag. May be but the woman chose that ball bag and allowed it.

They may be some of the reasons.

Because men never lie about being decent human beings then turn into utter bleeping bleeps. It's always the woman's fault for picking a crap man. "

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's what you wanted me to say isn't it? Even though i covered your point in my original post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's what you wanted me to say isn't it? Even though i covered your point in my original post."

We probably agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP. Before you jump at me. This is just a thought.

We all have our points where we draw the line. That goes for most things. We all draw those lines differently. Honestly, it would be strange to me to be asked in a first message. However, again, we are all different.

I would think there are a few reasons that someone may ask.

Probably the most common(pure guess), would be the possibility of availability for meets.

Then there is the thought that a women who has had kids, is a bit looser than a woman that has not. Seeking out the tight pussy! Maybe if you put 'kegel exercise enthusiast', they may not ask the question. Lol

Another one is probably a little bit more controversial. This is not my theory but one that is out there. This refers specifically to single female parents. Some would suggest if a woman has kids and is either single, seperated, divorced or never married and not with father. The thought is that these women have questionable values. Why? Well, data indicates that two parent families mum and dad, are more stable and best for childrens development. The raising of kids is a the biggest responsibility that a human can have. In order to provide the best for children, they preferrably have two loving parents together. So if they aren't, there has been questionable decision making prior to having those children. Hence questioning the intelligence and sense of responsibility of the mother. Why? Well, the female has the control of reproduction. Therefore the decision making is ultimately theirs. So if she is a single parent. She has made bad decisions in the past. That is not my theory but i can understand the logic. Some will say, but the father was a ball bag. May be but the woman chose that ball bag and allowed it.

They may be some of the reasons.

"

That's a harsh judgement on widows ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't mention widows.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't mention widows. "

But that can mean you're a single mum...

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over a year ago


"I didn't mention widows.

But that can mean you're a single mum... "

Not in relation to the point being made. So if anyone reads and thinks the same. The latter of my points, does not relate to a widow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP. Before you jump at me. This is just a thought.

We all have our points where we draw the line. That goes for most things. We all draw those lines differently. Honestly, it would be strange to me to be asked in a first message. However, again, we are all different.

I would think there are a few reasons that someone may ask.

Probably the most common(pure guess), would be the possibility of availability for meets.

Then there is the thought that a women who has had kids, is a bit looser than a woman that has not. Seeking out the tight pussy! Maybe if you put 'kegel exercise enthusiast', they may not ask the question. Lol

Another one is probably a little bit more controversial. This is not my theory but one that is out there. This refers specifically to single female parents. Some would suggest if a woman has kids and is either single, seperated, divorced or never married and not with father. The thought is that these women have questionable values. Why? Well, data indicates that two parent families mum and dad, are more stable and best for childrens development. The raising of kids is a the biggest responsibility that a human can have. In order to provide the best for children, they preferrably have two loving parents together. So if they aren't, there has been questionable decision making prior to having those children. Hence questioning the intelligence and sense of responsibility of the mother. Why? Well, the female has the control of reproduction. Therefore the decision making is ultimately theirs. So if she is a single parent. She has made bad decisions in the past. That is not my theory but i can understand the logic. Some will say, but the father was a ball bag. May be but the woman chose that ball bag and allowed it.

They may be some of the reasons.

"

I think it's because they are trying to make conversation and can't think of anything interesting to talk about- like hairdressers do.

Been away this year? Work going well? Got any kids?

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over a year ago


"I didn't mention widows.

But that can mean you're a single mum...

Not in relation to the point being made. So if anyone reads and thinks the same. The latter of my points, does not relate to a widow. "

As an aside, will a Widow's children suffer the same fate as a single mums, and should we just bump off the awful husband rather than leave him. Asking for a friend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP. Before you jump at me. This is just a thought.

We all have our points where we draw the line. That goes for most things. We all draw those lines differently. Honestly, it would be strange to me to be asked in a first message. However, again, we are all different.

I would think there are a few reasons that someone may ask.

Probably the most common(pure guess), would be the possibility of availability for meets.

Then there is the thought that a women who has had kids, is a bit looser than a woman that has not. Seeking out the tight pussy! Maybe if you put 'kegel exercise enthusiast', they may not ask the question. Lol

Another one is probably a little bit more controversial. This is not my theory but one that is out there. This refers specifically to single female parents. Some would suggest if a woman has kids and is either single, seperated, divorced or never married and not with father. The thought is that these women have questionable values. Why? Well, data indicates that two parent families mum and dad, are more stable and best for childrens development. The raising of kids is a the biggest responsibility that a human can have. In order to provide the best for children, they preferrably have two loving parents together. So if they aren't, there has been questionable decision making prior to having those children. Hence questioning the intelligence and sense of responsibility of the mother. Why? Well, the female has the control of reproduction. Therefore the decision making is ultimately theirs. So if she is a single parent. She has made bad decisions in the past. That is not my theory but i can understand the logic. Some will say, but the father was a ball bag. May be but the woman chose that ball bag and allowed it.

They may be some of the reasons.

"

Does that go for the dads of these children being brought up by the mother too? Does he not have a say in whether he wears a condom. Could he not be a "ball bag" and they split amicably? Maybe he changed drastically after the child was born and decided fatherhood isn't for him. Is it out there that women wouldn't touch them with a barge pole too?

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"what does piss me off is when I say I have grown up daughters and they ask if we have fucked the same men.

Or if I have fucked my son's friends.

Oh god. There’s some bloody strange folk on here "

Clearly been watching too much step relation, family sex or milf porn online

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP. Before you jump at me. This is just a thought.

We all have our points where we draw the line. That goes for most things. We all draw those lines differently. Honestly, it would be strange to me to be asked in a first message. However, again, we are all different.

I would think there are a few reasons that someone may ask.

Probably the most common(pure guess), would be the possibility of availability for meets.

Then there is the thought that a women who has had kids, is a bit looser than a woman that has not. Seeking out the tight pussy! Maybe if you put 'kegel exercise enthusiast', they may not ask the question. Lol

Another one is probably a little bit more controversial. This is not my theory but one that is out there. This refers specifically to single female parents. Some would suggest if a woman has kids and is either single, seperated, divorced or never married and not with father. The thought is that these women have questionable values. Why? Well, data indicates that two parent families mum and dad, are more stable and best for childrens development. The raising of kids is a the biggest responsibility that a human can have. In order to provide the best for children, they preferrably have two loving parents together. So if they aren't, there has been questionable decision making prior to having those children. Hence questioning the intelligence and sense of responsibility of the mother. Why? Well, the female has the control of reproduction. Therefore the decision making is ultimately theirs. So if she is a single parent. She has made bad decisions in the past. That is not my theory but i can understand the logic. Some will say, but the father was a ball bag. May be but the woman chose that ball bag and allowed it.

They may be some of the reasons.

Does that go for the dads of these children being brought up by the mother too? Does he not have a say in whether he wears a condom. Could he not be a "ball bag" and they split amicably? Maybe he changed drastically after the child was born and decided fatherhood isn't for him. Is it out there that women wouldn't touch them with a barge pole too?"

No. It's solely on the woman from my understanding. As they ultimately decide.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I didn't mention widows.

But that can mean you're a single mum...

Not in relation to the point being made. So if anyone reads and thinks the same. The latter of my points, does not relate to a widow.

As an aside, will a Widow's children suffer the same fate as a single mums, and should we just bump off the awful husband rather than leave him. Asking for a friend. "

Sorry i don't know. As i said previously. This is not my theory.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I mention it as my two are quite young and they are the reason i won’t meet NOW. I think, given my age, that a lot of men who contact me think i have kids in their 20’s and i’m just being awkward.

But i’m not. I was a later starter to Motherhood.

Plus i have a mum who has mobility issues and needs looking after and she gets a mention occasionally too.

*Goes to look at age but cant!

so anyway..when can I shag ya...

When you grow a foot and move your ass down here Paddy!"

you feet weirdo xxx

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

My kids are adults but live at home. I don’t mind saying as it’s why I can’t accommodate.

I don’t mind meeting guys who have kids. I won’t meet guys who have dogs though.

Like everything else it’s all about preference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My kids are adults but live at home. I don’t mind saying as it’s why I can’t accommodate.

I don’t mind meeting guys who have kids. I won’t meet guys who have dogs though.

Like everything else it’s all about preference. "

hides cat

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

Perhaps those of you mandating "socials first" would be good enough to provide a list of acceptable subjects for conversation, given a question I'd ask a work colleague on a Monday morning "How are the kids?" is apparently intrusive and none of my business.

Obviously not too personal, but not inane, and avoid sport. And don't talk about sex yet, this is a social, ffs...

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish

So men arent allowed to ask questions in pm yet women bare their soul on the forums, including details of their children on a public forum, open to everyone. Beautiful irony only on fab.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Perhaps those of you mandating "socials first" would be good enough to provide a list of acceptable subjects for conversation, given a question I'd ask a work colleague on a Monday morning "How are the kids?" is apparently intrusive and none of my business.

Obviously not too personal, but not inane, and avoid sport. And don't talk about sex yet, this is a social, ffs...

"
wind your neck in and read the op its talking about the first couple of contact messages. Nothing about being on a social

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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People can ask whatever they like but I will only answer if I’m comfortable answering, I don’t need to give any personal details if I don’t want to.

It’s a bit weird asking this in the first couple of messages because it’s a sex site but I suppose it depends what else you’ve discussed in those messages.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

For me it all depends on the context of the conversation. After all I like conversation and it's normal to have conversations that are not sex related. Context is everything.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Perhaps those of you mandating "socials first" would be good enough to provide a list of acceptable subjects for conversation, given a question I'd ask a work colleague on a Monday morning "How are the kids?" is apparently intrusive and none of my business.

Obviously not too personal, but not inane, and avoid sport. And don't talk about sex yet, this is a social, ffs...

"

But if you got to a stage where you’re discussing having a social then you probably would have conversed for a bit.

My opening post was about men that ask on the first or second message without any prior conversation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess it is quite bizarre and off putting if that’s one of the first questions they ask when you start messaging.

If children do come up in conversation, then I don’t see any problem in that. Everybody has different priorities. For some it’s their children, others their work and for some it’s a good old shag.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its no worse than putting a status up asking for 'a favour'

Double standards methinks

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its no worse than putting a status up asking for 'a favour'

Double standards methinks

"

Me asking if anyone had a telescopic ladder I could borrow for a few hours is the same as being asked in a first message if I have kids?

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"wind your neck in and read the op its talking about the first couple of contact messages. Nothing about being on a social"

fair enough, it's odd for a first message

Neck remains wound in.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

It's bound to crop up in the convo at some point, but, yes I'd find it a bit odd if it was in the first couple of messages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get this all the time.

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

I prefer that to them asking where I live straight away.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I would not answer the question - and if he repeated the interrogation, I would decline interest/block, as he's too insensitive to want to know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tricky 1 i guess, could be an absolute weirdo or could just be that hes he is not the type of man that things its good to go banging the back legs of some woman whilst theres young ens in the house able to hear, could be hes looking for a childless relationship, me personally i would ask why he is asking before judgement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whats the chances of a woman asking a man if he has any ?

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London

Surprised by some of the responses on this thread as it honestly never crosses my mind to ask - none of my business!

But equally not bothered if people choose to tell me, and it normally comes up in general conversation in arranging or at a meet...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surprised by some of the responses on this thread as it honestly never crosses my mind to ask - none of my business!

But equally not bothered if people choose to tell me, and it normally comes up in general conversation in arranging or at a meet..."

Or wrote on there profile, got little humans etc etc

Cant meet at the drop of a hat

Its not exactly rocket science as to why in most cases

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


"Surprised by some of the responses on this thread as it honestly never crosses my mind to ask - none of my business!

But equally not bothered if people choose to tell me, and it normally comes up in general conversation in arranging or at a meet...

Or wrote on there profile, got little humans etc etc

Cant meet at the drop of a hat

Its not exactly rocket science as to why in most cases "

Well, yes - agree. Just meant I wouldn't think to ask upfront as it just isn't an issue that crosses my mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP. Before you jump at me. This is just a thought.

We all have our points where we draw the line. That goes for most things. We all draw those lines differently. Honestly, it would be strange to me to be asked in a first message. However, again, we are all different.

I would think there are a few reasons that someone may ask.

Probably the most common(pure guess), would be the possibility of availability for meets.

Then there is the thought that a women who has had kids, is a bit looser than a woman that has not. Seeking out the tight pussy! Maybe if you put 'kegel exercise enthusiast', they may not ask the question. Lol

Another one is probably a little bit more controversial. This is not my theory but one that is out there. This refers specifically to single female parents. Some would suggest if a woman has kids and is either single, seperated, divorced or never married and not with father. The thought is that these women have questionable values. Why? Well, data indicates that two parent families mum and dad, are more stable and best for childrens development. The raising of kids is a the biggest responsibility that a human can have. In order to provide the best for children, they preferrably have two loving parents together. So if they aren't, there has been questionable decision making prior to having those children. Hence questioning the intelligence and sense of responsibility of the mother. Why? Well, the female has the control of reproduction. Therefore the decision making is ultimately theirs. So if she is a single parent. She has made bad decisions in the past. That is not my theory but i can understand the logic. Some will say, but the father was a ball bag. May be but the woman chose that ball bag and allowed it.

They may be some of the reasons.

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It's a stupid thought.

But that's just My opinion!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surprised by some of the responses on this thread as it honestly never crosses my mind to ask - none of my business!

But equally not bothered if people choose to tell me, and it normally comes up in general conversation in arranging or at a meet...

Or wrote on there profile, got little humans etc etc

Cant meet at the drop of a hat

Its not exactly rocket science as to why in most cases "

I don't have small children and I don't meet at the drop of a hat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Surprised by some of the responses on this thread as it honestly never crosses my mind to ask - none of my business!

But equally not bothered if people choose to tell me, and it normally comes up in general conversation in arranging or at a meet...

Or wrote on there profile, got little humans etc etc

Cant meet at the drop of a hat

Its not exactly rocket science as to why in most cases

I don't have small children and I don't meet at the drop of a hat. "

Shame your so far away

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP. Before you jump at me. This is just a thought.

We all have our points where we draw the line. That goes for most things. We all draw those lines differently. Honestly, it would be strange to me to be asked in a first message. However, again, we are all different.

I would think there are a few reasons that someone may ask.

Probably the most common(pure guess), would be the possibility of availability for meets.

Then there is the thought that a women who has had kids, is a bit looser than a woman that has not. Seeking out the tight pussy! Maybe if you put 'kegel exercise enthusiast', they may not ask the question. Lol

Another one is probably a little bit more controversial. This is not my theory but one that is out there. This refers specifically to single female parents. Some would suggest if a woman has kids and is either single, seperated, divorced or never married and not with father. The thought is that these women have questionable values. Why? Well, data indicates that two parent families mum and dad, are more stable and best for childrens development. The raising of kids is a the biggest responsibility that a human can have. In order to provide the best for children, they preferrably have two loving parents together. So if they aren't, there has been questionable decision making prior to having those children. Hence questioning the intelligence and sense of responsibility of the mother. Why? Well, the female has the control of reproduction. Therefore the decision making is ultimately theirs. So if she is a single parent. She has made bad decisions in the past. That is not my theory but i can understand the logic. Some will say, but the father was a ball bag. May be but the woman chose that ball bag and allowed it.

They may be some of the reasons.

It's a stupid thought.

But that's just My opinion!"

What are the things you find stupid?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its no worse than putting a status up asking for 'a favour'

Double standards methinks

Me asking if anyone had a telescopic ladder I could borrow for a few hours is the same as being asked in a first message if I have kids?"

Both inappropriate in their own way...

But it obviously depends on how you view the site and the people on it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The female has control of reproduction therefore she makes the decisions.

Utter crap.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Its no worse than putting a status up asking for 'a favour'

Double standards methinks

Me asking if anyone had a telescopic ladder I could borrow for a few hours is the same as being asked in a first message if I have kids?

Both inappropriate in their own way...

But it obviously depends on how you view the site and the people on it..."

I kind of have a what’s in it for me attitude. If I can get something for free I’ll take it. Food samples in supermarkets, rubbing magazines on myself for the perfume. Asking people on here for a lend of their strimmer or telescopic ladder, not arsed.

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By *rettyLittleThingWoman
over a year ago

Swansea

I would see no need to ask that question and I would find it kinda awkward to ask it to be honest.

Personally I like to keep things nsa, I'm here for sex and I think the less you know about a person keeps it mess free and more intriguing.

Bit like partners, why do I need to know that and when does it come up? I don't really have socials, I'd think it would kill the mood too lol.. "so when was your last relationship and any kids?"

Doesn't it spook guys out?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The female has control of reproduction therefore she makes the decisions.

Utter crap."

Really? Can you explain why?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The female has control of reproduction therefore she makes the decisions.

Utter crap.

Really? Can you explain why?"

I am not going to derail the thread with it but to imply that men are blameless in women become a single parent is, at best naive.

To then take the leap that a man asking if a woman has kids because it can impair her decision making ability is frankly laughable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps it’s because ladies who haven’t had children tend to have a tighter pussy and flatter stomach?

Just thinking out loud.

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

South Wales

We need a face palm emoji on this site, we really do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The female has control of reproduction therefore she makes the decisions.

Utter crap.

Really? Can you explain why?

I am not going to derail the thread with it but to imply that men are blameless in women become a single parent is, at best naive.

To then take the leap that a man asking if a woman has kids because it can impair her decision making ability is frankly laughable."

Not at all. Do some reading.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And it wouldn't derail the thread. It's a part of the conversation.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"The female has control of reproduction therefore she makes the decisions.

Utter crap.

Really? Can you explain why?

I am not going to derail the thread with it but to imply that men are blameless in women become a single parent is, at best naive.

To then take the leap that a man asking if a woman has kids because it can impair her decision making ability is frankly laughable.

Not at all. Do some reading. "
are you seriously saying that some guys are asking women if they have kids to check there decision making when most are looking for nsa

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the end of the day every response including my own is absolute guess work

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Perhaps it’s because ladies who haven’t had children tend to have a tighter pussy and flatter stomach?

Just thinking out loud. "

I did a full term pregnancy without so much as a stretch mark. My mum did two pregnancies and she never got any stretch marks and my sister was a whopping 9lb 3ozs! Spanish skin from my mothers side!

Plus I’d take the Pepsi challenge over any bird when it comes to vaginal tightness. My fanny is hardly ever used. I didn’t even have sex for two years following childbirth. I could grip a pencil with my vaginal wall muscles and sketch a fucking Monet and I have a relatively flat stomach so that dispells that myth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Perhaps it’s because ladies who haven’t had children tend to have a tighter pussy and flatter stomach?

Just thinking out loud.

I did a full term pregnancy without so much as a stretch mark. My mum did two pregnancies and she never got any stretch marks and my sister was a whopping 9lb 3ozs! Spanish skin from my mothers side!

Plus I’d take the Pepsi challenge over any bird when it comes to vaginal tightness. My fanny is hardly ever used. I didn’t even have sex for two years following childbirth. I could grip a pencil with my vaginal wall muscles and sketch a fucking Monet and I have a relatively flat stomach so that dispells that myth. "

Prove it :p

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Perhaps it’s because ladies who haven’t had children tend to have a tighter pussy and flatter stomach?

Just thinking out loud.

I did a full term pregnancy without so much as a stretch mark. My mum did two pregnancies and she never got any stretch marks and my sister was a whopping 9lb 3ozs! Spanish skin from my mothers side!

Plus I’d take the Pepsi challenge over any bird when it comes to vaginal tightness. My fanny is hardly ever used. I didn’t even have sex for two years following childbirth. I could grip a pencil with my vaginal wall muscles and sketch a fucking Monet and I have a relatively flat stomach so that dispells that myth. "

One person does not dispell a theory.

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By *arahBaby123Woman
over a year ago

WORCESTER


"I could be wrong of course ... but maybe one of the reasons for their asking is assessing the likelihood of last minute cancel sure to kid issues ... and if you're tight or not down there

But agree... no one's business ... and wrong to even make it a factor for meets etc

For tightness The textbooks say that it would take 5 separate consecutive vaginal births for the vagina walls to loosen beyond repair. "

This made me laugh out loud!

Having naturally popped out 5 sprogs in 7 years, with 4 of them over 9lb, I should be carrying my undercarriage around in a bucket.

Happily having done the old pf excercises for 20 years, all is well. It doesn't quite fire pingpong balls but it does alright

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The female has control of reproduction therefore she makes the decisions.

Utter crap.

Really? Can you explain why?

I am not going to derail the thread with it but to imply that men are blameless in women become a single parent is, at best naive.

To then take the leap that a man asking if a woman has kids because it can impair her decision making ability is frankly laughable.

Not at all. Do some reading. are you seriously saying that some guys are asking women if they have kids to check there decision making when most are looking for nsa"

Well. It's a reason many men exclude single women from searches on, say, dating sites. If you delve a little deeper. Its not an uncommon thought in psychology. Again, it's things that have come up in research.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"The female has control of reproduction therefore she makes the decisions.

Utter crap.

Really? Can you explain why?

I am not going to derail the thread with it but to imply that men are blameless in women become a single parent is, at best naive.

To then take the leap that a man asking if a woman has kids because it can impair her decision making ability is frankly laughable.

Not at all. Do some reading. are you seriously saying that some guys are asking women if they have kids to check there decision making when most are looking for nsa

Well. It's a reason many men exclude single women from searches on, say, dating sites. If you delve a little deeper. Its not an uncommon thought in psychology. Again, it's things that have come up in research. "
im not talking about any other sites you suggested it could be a reason on here a swinging site nsa

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Perhaps it’s because ladies who haven’t had children tend to have a tighter pussy and flatter stomach?

Just thinking out loud.

I did a full term pregnancy without so much as a stretch mark. My mum did two pregnancies and she never got any stretch marks and my sister was a whopping 9lb 3ozs! Spanish skin from my mothers side!

Plus I’d take the Pepsi challenge over any bird when it comes to vaginal tightness. My fanny is hardly ever used. I didn’t even have sex for two years following childbirth. I could grip a pencil with my vaginal wall muscles and sketch a fucking Monet and I have a relatively flat stomach so that dispells that myth.

One person does not dispell a theory. "

Where is your evidence based research?

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By *londie8399Couple
over a year ago

blackpool

i would agree with this i have had 2 kids and i have been told mines tight up there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The female has control of reproduction therefore she makes the decisions.

Utter crap.

Really? Can you explain why?

I am not going to derail the thread with it but to imply that men are blameless in women become a single parent is, at best naive.

To then take the leap that a man asking if a woman has kids because it can impair her decision making ability is frankly laughable.

Not at all. Do some reading. are you seriously saying that some guys are asking women if they have kids to check there decision making when most are looking for nsa

Well. It's a reason many men exclude single women from searches on, say, dating sites. If you delve a little deeper. Its not an uncommon thought in psychology. Again, it's things that have come up in research. im not talking about any other sites you suggested it could be a reason on here a swinging site nsa"

Ok. Yes. Here too. As i have said before. These may be reasons.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"The female has control of reproduction therefore she makes the decisions.

Utter crap.

Really? Can you explain why?

I am not going to derail the thread with it but to imply that men are blameless in women become a single parent is, at best naive.

To then take the leap that a man asking if a woman has kids because it can impair her decision making ability is frankly laughable.

Not at all. Do some reading. are you seriously saying that some guys are asking women if they have kids to check there decision making when most are looking for nsa

Well. It's a reason many men exclude single women from searches on, say, dating sites. If you delve a little deeper. Its not an uncommon thought in psychology. Again, it's things that have come up in research. im not talking about any other sites you suggested it could be a reason on here a swinging site nsa

Ok. Yes. Here too. As i have said before. These may be reasons. "
to be honest its up there with the most ridiculous things ive heard on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Perhaps it’s because ladies who haven’t had children tend to have a tighter pussy and flatter stomach?

Just thinking out loud.

I did a full term pregnancy without so much as a stretch mark. My mum did two pregnancies and she never got any stretch marks and my sister was a whopping 9lb 3ozs! Spanish skin from my mothers side!

Plus I’d take the Pepsi challenge over any bird when it comes to vaginal tightness. My fanny is hardly ever used. I didn’t even have sex for two years following childbirth. I could grip a pencil with my vaginal wall muscles and sketch a fucking Monet and I have a relatively flat stomach so that dispells that myth.

One person does not dispell a theory.

Where is your evidence based research?"

Of what? That one person doesn't dispell a theory? I'm 100% positive that a sample of one person does not prove or disprove anything. Is that not science 101?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If a guy has the mindset that it’s my fault I’m a single parent then he’s not someone I’d want to meet anyway.

Think it’s a bit silly to blame the female for a relationship breaking down.

Nobody can preempt how you’re going to adapt to parent hood until you become a parent. *Some* men simply can not handle or accept that they are no longer the most important person in their partners eyes and they can be jealous of their own baby.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The female has control of reproduction therefore she makes the decisions.

Utter crap.

Really? Can you explain why?

I am not going to derail the thread with it but to imply that men are blameless in women become a single parent is, at best naive.

To then take the leap that a man asking if a woman has kids because it can impair her decision making ability is frankly laughable.

Not at all. Do some reading. are you seriously saying that some guys are asking women if they have kids to check there decision making when most are looking for nsa

Well. It's a reason many men exclude single women from searches on, say, dating sites. If you delve a little deeper. Its not an uncommon thought in psychology. Again, it's things that have come up in research. im not talking about any other sites you suggested it could be a reason on here a swinging site nsa

Ok. Yes. Here too. As i have said before. These may be reasons. to be honest its up there with the most ridiculous things ive heard on here"

That's grand. You don't have to believe it. I'm not telling anyone that that is the way things are. I'm saying it may be a reason for some.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"If a guy has the mindset that it’s my fault I’m a single parent then he’s not someone I’d want to meet anyway.

Think it’s a bit silly to blame the female for a relationship breaking down.

Nobody can preempt how you’re going to adapt to parent hood until you become a parent. *Some* men simply can not handle or accept that they are no longer the most important person in their partners eyes and they can be jealous of their own baby. "

If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If a guy has the mindset that it’s my fault I’m a single parent then he’s not someone I’d want to meet anyway.

Think it’s a bit silly to blame the female for a relationship breaking down.

Nobody can preempt how you’re going to adapt to parent hood until you become a parent. *Some* men simply can not handle or accept that they are no longer the most important person in their partners eyes and they can be jealous of their own baby. "

Yes and some women can choose questionable partners too. Can you not concede that possibility? .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If a guy has the mindset that it’s my fault I’m a single parent then he’s not someone I’d want to meet anyway.

Think it’s a bit silly to blame the female for a relationship breaking down.

Nobody can preempt how you’re going to adapt to parent hood until you become a parent. *Some* men simply can not handle or accept that they are no longer the most important person in their partners eyes and they can be jealous of their own baby.

Yes and some women can choose questionable partners too. Can you not concede that possibility? ."

Yes I can accept that. Do you hate your own mother by any chance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If a guy has the mindset that it’s my fault I’m a single parent then he’s not someone I’d want to meet anyway.

Think it’s a bit silly to blame the female for a relationship breaking down.

Nobody can preempt how you’re going to adapt to parent hood until you become a parent. *Some* men simply can not handle or accept that they are no longer the most important person in their partners eyes and they can be jealous of their own baby.

Yes and some women can choose questionable partners too. Can you not concede that possibility? .

Yes I can accept that. Do you hate your own mother by any chance?"

What? Why do you ask?

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By *rettyLittleThingWoman
over a year ago

Swansea


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though."

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If a guy has the mindset that it’s my fault I’m a single parent then he’s not someone I’d want to meet anyway.

Think it’s a bit silly to blame the female for a relationship breaking down.

Nobody can preempt how you’re going to adapt to parent hood until you become a parent. *Some* men simply can not handle or accept that they are no longer the most important person in their partners eyes and they can be jealous of their own baby.

Yes and some women can choose questionable partners too. Can you not concede that possibility? .

Yes I can accept that. Do you hate your own mother by any chance?

What? Why do you ask?"

Just seems to be the place to start writing random shit.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? "
Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If a guy has the mindset that it’s my fault I’m a single parent then he’s not someone I’d want to meet anyway.

Think it’s a bit silly to blame the female for a relationship breaking down.

Nobody can preempt how you’re going to adapt to parent hood until you become a parent. *Some* men simply can not handle or accept that they are no longer the most important person in their partners eyes and they can be jealous of their own baby.

Yes and some women can choose questionable partners too. Can you not concede that possibility? .

Yes I can accept that. Do you hate your own mother by any chance?

What? Why do you ask?

Just seems to be the place to start writing random shit. "

Not unless it's a thread meant for "random shit"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore?

Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

"

I’d choose baggage because he’d be less desired by other people and more chance he’d be loyal to me. Plus if he had kids with an awkward ex I could handle that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If a guy has the mindset that it’s my fault I’m a single parent then he’s not someone I’d want to meet anyway.

Think it’s a bit silly to blame the female for a relationship breaking down.

Nobody can preempt how you’re going to adapt to parent hood until you become a parent. *Some* men simply can not handle or accept that they are no longer the most important person in their partners eyes and they can be jealous of their own baby.

Yes and some women can choose questionable partners too. Can you not concede that possibility? ."

Some partners don't show their true colours until the ring is on the finger.

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By *rettyLittleThingWoman
over a year ago

Swansea


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?"

If I loved someone that much, no I don't think I'd care too much. After all you would be in a relationship or marriage with them not their "baggage" as you put it.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore?

Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

I’d choose baggage because he’d be less desired by other people and more chance he’d be loyal to me. Plus if he had kids with an awkward ex I could handle that. "
Interesting...

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

If I loved someone that much, no I don't think I'd care too much. After all you would be in a relationship or marriage with them not their "baggage" as you put it.

"
This would be before you got into a relationship though.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Doesn’t bother me

Prefer them to know as I can have childcare issues which could result in me having to cancel "

I think that's why most people would ask, to gauge availability, ability to accommodate, that kind of thing??

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"If a guy has the mindset that it’s my fault I’m a single parent then he’s not someone I’d want to meet anyway.

Think it’s a bit silly to blame the female for a relationship breaking down.

Nobody can preempt how you’re going to adapt to parent hood until you become a parent. *Some* men simply can not handle or accept that they are no longer the most important person in their partners eyes and they can be jealous of their own baby.

Yes and some women can choose questionable partners too. Can you not concede that possibility? ."
so if i chose a questionable person 30 years ago im still to be held accountable and still lack good decision making

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? "

I suppose men have a longer timer in this respect as we stay "fertile" basically till we die.

Where as if you want to raise a family an older woman might not be a possible partner for you

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By *rettyLittleThingWoman
over a year ago

Swansea


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

If I loved someone that much, no I don't think I'd care too much. After all you would be in a relationship or marriage with them not their "baggage" as you put it.

This would be before you got into a relationship though. "

Well obviously? It's not a big deal to me as it seems it is for yourself.

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over a year ago


"If a guy has the mindset that it’s my fault I’m a single parent then he’s not someone I’d want to meet anyway.

Think it’s a bit silly to blame the female for a relationship breaking down.

Nobody can preempt how you’re going to adapt to parent hood until you become a parent. *Some* men simply can not handle or accept that they are no longer the most important person in their partners eyes and they can be jealous of their own baby.

Yes and some women can choose questionable partners too. Can you not concede that possibility? .so if i chose a questionable person 30 years ago im still to be held accountable and still lack good decision making"

I don't know. As i have mentioned, it is a possible reason. There are things online that I'm sure will eloborate on the subject. If it's something you are wanting to learn more about.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

If I loved someone that much, no I don't think I'd care too much. After all you would be in a relationship or marriage with them not their "baggage" as you put it.

This would be before you got into a relationship though.

Well obviously? It's not a big deal to me as it seems it is for yourself. "
It depends sometimes you can't help it but if I had the option I would choose without.

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By *rettyLittleThingWoman
over a year ago

Swansea


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

If I loved someone that much, no I don't think I'd care too much. After all you would be in a relationship or marriage with them not their "baggage" as you put it.

This would be before you got into a relationship though.

Well obviously? It's not a big deal to me as it seems it is for yourself. It depends sometimes you can't help it but if I had the option I would choose without."

I mean I'm still confused here, so what if she has kids is that a no too or does it depend how many? Same as how many times she's been married?

You can't have it both ways

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

If I loved someone that much, no I don't think I'd care too much. After all you would be in a relationship or marriage with them not their "baggage" as you put it.

This would be before you got into a relationship though.

Well obviously? It's not a big deal to me as it seems it is for yourself. It depends sometimes you can't help it but if I had the option I would choose without.

I mean I'm still confused here, so what if she has kids is that a no too or does it depend how many? Same as how many times she's been married?

You can't have it both ways "
Well at the moment I can date younger women who haven't been married or have children yet. So when I can longer do that I will take it into account.

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By *rettyLittleThingWoman
over a year ago

Swansea


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

If I loved someone that much, no I don't think I'd care too much. After all you would be in a relationship or marriage with them not their "baggage" as you put it.

This would be before you got into a relationship though.

Well obviously? It's not a big deal to me as it seems it is for yourself. It depends sometimes you can't help it but if I had the option I would choose without.

I mean I'm still confused here, so what if she has kids is that a no too or does it depend how many? Same as how many times she's been married?

You can't have it both ways Well at the moment I can date younger women who haven't been married or have children yet. So when I can longer do that I will take it into account."

How very big of you

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

If I loved someone that much, no I don't think I'd care too much. After all you would be in a relationship or marriage with them not their "baggage" as you put it.

This would be before you got into a relationship though.

Well obviously? It's not a big deal to me as it seems it is for yourself. It depends sometimes you can't help it but if I had the option I would choose without.

I mean I'm still confused here, so what if she has kids is that a no too or does it depend how many? Same as how many times she's been married?

You can't have it both ways Well at the moment I can date younger women who haven't been married or have children yet. So when I can longer do that I will take it into account.

How very big of you "
It's just a preference really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

If I loved someone that much, no I don't think I'd care too much. After all you would be in a relationship or marriage with them not their "baggage" as you put it.

This would be before you got into a relationship though.

Well obviously? It's not a big deal to me as it seems it is for yourself. It depends sometimes you can't help it but if I had the option I would choose without.

I mean I'm still confused here, so what if she has kids is that a no too or does it depend how many? Same as how many times she's been married?

You can't have it both ways Well at the moment I can date younger women who haven't been married or have children yet. So when I can longer do that I will take it into account.

How very big of you It's just a preference really."

Seems you are not allowed choice.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


" If women haven't married or haven't had children by a certain age, it normally means there is something wrong.

I wouldn't take on a woman with more baggage than a travelling circus though.

Wow this thread got stupid..

Does this apply to men too then? At what age is she no good to you anymore? Depends what you can attract I guess. Would you choose a man with no baggage or loads of baggage though?

If I loved someone that much, no I don't think I'd care too much. After all you would be in a relationship or marriage with them not their "baggage" as you put it.

This would be before you got into a relationship though.

Well obviously? It's not a big deal to me as it seems it is for yourself. It depends sometimes you can't help it but if I had the option I would choose without.

I mean I'm still confused here, so what if she has kids is that a no too or does it depend how many? Same as how many times she's been married?

You can't have it both ways Well at the moment I can date younger women who haven't been married or have children yet. So when I can longer do that I will take it into account.

How very big of you It's just a preference really."
to be honest i know where your coming from as i would never have dated a guy with young kids. I never did

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