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Has being a Fab member influenced your views on the opposite sex? If so positively or negatively?

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By *electableDalliances OP   Couple
over a year ago

leeds

Curious...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lots of positives occasional negative but thats more individual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It hasn't changed it! Some people are Dicks, some people are not! Regardless of whether they're on fab or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It hasn't changed it! Some people are Dicks, some people are not! Regardless of whether they're on fab or not. "

I was thinking of something to write but I agree with this.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Mysogny is sadly alive and kicking, they then expect women to want to fuck them.

Not all men but, rather a lot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Negatively

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It hasn't changed it! Some people are Dicks, some people are not! Regardless of whether they're on fab or not. "

Sums it up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is always a diamond in the rough here...

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)

I thought women didn't like sex until I joined here so positive I would say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mysogny is sadly alive and kicking, they then expect women to want to fuck them.

Not all men but, rather a lot."

There's some misandry afoot too but from what i hear about the behaviour of a few undesirables that may be justified.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. I was well aware there are differing kinds of personalities amongst male members of the species.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mysogny is sadly alive and kicking, they then expect women to want to fuck them.

Not all men but, rather a lot.

There's some misandry afoot too but from what i hear about the behaviour of a few undesirables that may be justified. "

If statistics are anything to go by it's not a few.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

It has influenced my view of both sexes negatively.

Some of things I see written here make me especially the attitude of people towards spouses. I knew that some relationships were bad and that some partners disrespected their other half but I had no idea how prevalent it was.

However I can also see that there are good things and great relationships and I know that fab and the forums are a tiny part of humanity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It hasn't changed it! Some people are Dicks, some people are not! Regardless of whether they're on fab or not.

I was thinking of something to write but I agree with this. "

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It hasn't changed anything really, except provided comfort that I'm not alone in thinking the way that I do

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Mostly negative, sadly.

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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago

Currently Faraway


"Curious..."

Are you talking about opinions towards the opposite sex in general or within the context of swinging?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Mostly negative, sadly. "

I said the same. Do you think fab is representative of real life or we see the negative in isolation thereby giving us a skewed view.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I was about 40 when i joined fab id already had 40 years experience of the opposite sex. However when i first joined internet sites it opened my eyes. And i have noticed in the last couple of years that guys attitudes to women and sex have changed. Theres always been guys that think women are a piece of meet but over the last couple of years the attitudes of "some" men towards women appalls me and i have to say it is mostly younger guys i see it in. I blame it on being exposed to more hardcore porn. Lack of social skills and that they dont socialize with women in everyday life and spend their whole life sitting in their bedroom wanking to hardcore porn and have lost touch or have a warped perseption of reality and real life women. It saddens me

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By *hilloutMan
over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

The only thing it's done is to make me appreciate women even more than I already did before

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn’t realise how filthy women are till I joined ! Not complaining mind you

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By *electableDalliances OP   Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"Curious...

Are you talking about opinions towards the opposite sex in general or within the context of swinging?

"

In general, has being here influenced how you feel /think ?

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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago

Currently Faraway

If we are talking about opinions towards the opposite sex within the context of swinging, mine have been changed positively to a degree. I used to think that we single men had difficulty approaching couples because of the attitudes of the female half of the couple. I’ve soon discovered the error of my thinking after joining the all-male equivalent websites...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Over the past 6yrs. I have joined the online dating and swinging community on and off. Over that time i have been single for the most part. Before this i had never chatted online or anything. So it was a new world that opened up. To be honest I'm not a fan. I'm an honest person. I like honesty. Unfortunately, the internet breeds lies. It enables deceit. It creates this very unnatural platform to interact on. It changes the whole process of communication. Not for the good either.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Mostly negative, sadly.

I said the same. Do you think fab is representative of real life or we see the negative in isolation thereby giving us a skewed view.

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I would include the internet as a whole, not just fab. I fear it is representative of real life, yes, but that reality would be so depressing I continue to hope the impression is wrong and my faith will be restored!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a natural confusion in respect of an opposite sex so can't answer this

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


" I was about 40 when i joined fab id already had 40 years experience of the opposite sex. However when i first joined internet sites it opened my eyes. And i have noticed in the last couple of years that guys attitudes to women and sex have changed. Theres always been guys that think women are a piece of meet but over the last couple of years the attitudes of "some" men towards women appalls me and i have to say it is mostly younger guys i see it in. I blame it on being exposed to more hardcore porn. Lack of social skills and that they dont socialize with women in everyday life and spend their whole life sitting in their bedroom wanking to hardcore porn and have lost touch or have a warped perseption of reality and real life women. It saddens me"

I'm nodding my head. I don't know if it was always like this or if it's new or because it's fab people feel able to express these feelings.

I find some things really abhorrent though.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Over the past 6yrs. I have joined the online dating and swinging community on and off. Over that time i have been single for the most part. Before this i had never chatted online or anything. So it was a new world that opened up. To be honest I'm not a fan. I'm an honest person. I like honesty. Unfortunately, the internet breeds lies. It enables deceit. It creates this very unnatural platform to interact on. It changes the whole process of communication. Not for the good either. "

Yes, that is my perception too. Reality without conscience.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

I was going to say it hasn't changed since I've been on here,but thinking about it it has in a negative way.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"Over the past 6yrs. I have joined the online dating and swinging community on and off. Over that time i have been single for the most part. Before this i had never chatted online or anything. So it was a new world that opened up. To be honest I'm not a fan. I'm an honest person. I like honesty. Unfortunately, the internet breeds lies. It enables deceit. It creates this very unnatural platform to interact on. It changes the whole process of communication. Not for the good either. "

Very true.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Mostly negative, sadly.

I said the same. Do you think fab is representative of real life or we see the negative in isolation thereby giving us a skewed view.

I would include the internet as a whole, not just fab. I fear it is representative of real life, yes, but that reality would be so depressing I continue to hope the impression is wrong and my faith will be restored!"

I know, or I think I know that our son or daughter don't openly display some of the attitudes I see here. I know I don't and I know Mr N doesn't.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

No, I think it's rather short sighted to allow your perception of a whole gender or group of people to be skewed by a few individuals on a website.

People are people, wonderful, complex and fallible, that doesn't change. But to allow yourself to be jaded or bitter and cynical because of a few people's actions does seem rather unfortunate.

Personally I think that if I found myself feeling that, I'd take myself off and do something that reaffirmed my faith in people again rather than let it affect my interactions with others

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not the opposite sex, but I’ve learnt not to judge cheating partners as much.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not the opposite sex, but I’ve learnt not to judge cheating partners as much. "

What's brought this about, if you don't mind my asking?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


" I was about 40 when i joined fab id already had 40 years experience of the opposite sex. However when i first joined internet sites it opened my eyes. And i have noticed in the last couple of years that guys attitudes to women and sex have changed. Theres always been guys that think women are a piece of meet but over the last couple of years the attitudes of "some" men towards women appalls me and i have to say it is mostly younger guys i see it in. I blame it on being exposed to more hardcore porn. Lack of social skills and that they dont socialize with women in everyday life and spend their whole life sitting in their bedroom wanking to hardcore porn and have lost touch or have a warped perseption of reality and real life women. It saddens me

I'm nodding my head. I don't know if it was always like this or if it's new or because it's fab people feel able to express these feelings.

I find some things really abhorrent though."
i havent used any other sites since i joined fab but im sure it was never this bad. As i say it is the younger guys (under 30 ) that i see it in. Ive seen guys pratically demand hardcore sex acts of women without so much as a hi how are you. No respect. There was a guy on here the other day who was 26 im not saying he was being disresespectful quite the opposite but he was jaded that he hadnt found someone to fulfil all his kinks.

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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago

Currently Faraway


"Curious...

Are you talking about opinions towards the opposite sex in general or within the context of swinging?

In general, has being here influenced how you feel /think ? "

In general terms, I’ll have to paraphrase a fellow member in this forum: some people are knobheads and some people are nice...and that goes for both sexes I guess, but that opinion has remained steady regardless of swinging or the Fab website.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


" I was about 40 when i joined fab id already had 40 years experience of the opposite sex. However when i first joined internet sites it opened my eyes. And i have noticed in the last couple of years that guys attitudes to women and sex have changed. Theres always been guys that think women are a piece of meet but over the last couple of years the attitudes of "some" men towards women appalls me and i have to say it is mostly younger guys i see it in. I blame it on being exposed to more hardcore porn. Lack of social skills and that they dont socialize with women in everyday life and spend their whole life sitting in their bedroom wanking to hardcore porn and have lost touch or have a warped perseption of reality and real life women. It saddens me

I'm nodding my head. I don't know if it was always like this or if it's new or because it's fab people feel able to express these feelings.

I find some things really abhorrent though.i havent used any other sites since i joined fab but im sure it was never this bad. As i say it is the younger guys (under 30 ) that i see it in. Ive seen guys pratically demand hardcore sex acts of women without so much as a hi how are you. No respect. There was a guy on here the other day who was 26 im not saying he was being disresespectful quite the opposite but he was jaded that he hadnt found someone to fulfil all his kinks. "

Slight aside. GPs are seeing more young men with ED and have connected it with hardcore porn. It just wasn't easily available previously

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not the opposite sex, but I’ve learnt not to judge cheating partners as much.

What's brought this about, if you don't mind my asking?"

Someone I know was on here. He messaged me (before I had face pics up or anything identifiable) and explained his situation. I blocked him. That was over a year ago, and a couple of months ago I accidentally unblocked him and he messaged me again, so we got talking and the more I’ve gotten to know his side of the story, I do feel bad for him. Obviously there’s two sides to every story, he could well be just feeding me a load of shite, but yeah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" I was about 40 when i joined fab id already had 40 years experience of the opposite sex. However when i first joined internet sites it opened my eyes. And i have noticed in the last couple of years that guys attitudes to women and sex have changed. Theres always been guys that think women are a piece of meet but over the last couple of years the attitudes of "some" men towards women appalls me and i have to say it is mostly younger guys i see it in. I blame it on being exposed to more hardcore porn. Lack of social skills and that they dont socialize with women in everyday life and spend their whole life sitting in their bedroom wanking to hardcore porn and have lost touch or have a warped perseption of reality and real life women. It saddens me"

I would agree with that.

Alot of men seem to live in a little bubble of porn and wanking.

I often ask those that message me about their actual experiences. The replies I get speak volumes

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


" I was about 40 when i joined fab id already had 40 years experience of the opposite sex. However when i first joined internet sites it opened my eyes. And i have noticed in the last couple of years that guys attitudes to women and sex have changed. Theres always been guys that think women are a piece of meet but over the last couple of years the attitudes of "some" men towards women appalls me and i have to say it is mostly younger guys i see it in. I blame it on being exposed to more hardcore porn. Lack of social skills and that they dont socialize with women in everyday life and spend their whole life sitting in their bedroom wanking to hardcore porn and have lost touch or have a warped perseption of reality and real life women. It saddens me

I'm nodding my head. I don't know if it was always like this or if it's new or because it's fab people feel able to express these feelings.

I find some things really abhorrent though.i havent used any other sites since i joined fab but im sure it was never this bad. As i say it is the younger guys (under 30 ) that i see it in. Ive seen guys pratically demand hardcore sex acts of women without so much as a hi how are you. No respect. There was a guy on here the other day who was 26 im not saying he was being disresespectful quite the opposite but he was jaded that he hadnt found someone to fulfil all his kinks.

Slight aside. GPs are seeing more young men with ED and have connected it with hardcore porn. It just wasn't easily available previously"
also the amount of fit healthy guys asking for "blues" or viagra just so they can last longer. Whats going to happen if they actually need it one day it will have no affect on them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is just an observation and not meant in any negative way at all. I mean this with total respect.

Looking through the thread it's interesting to me the women who are over 45 and have been swinging for quite a while have said yes it has affected their views negatively, where as myself and at least one other person who is younger and not been swinging as long. Just wondering if this could be a generational thing as in different attitudes or if the longer you do it the more cynical and possibly sceptical you get. I am genuinely interested to see what people think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

May I just point out when I said cynical and sceptical I meant through experience not just because of age. Lol

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"This is just an observation and not meant in any negative way at all. I mean this with total respect.

Looking through the thread it's interesting to me the women who are over 45 and have been swinging for quite a while have said yes it has affected their views negatively, where as myself and at least one other person who is younger and not been swinging as long. Just wondering if this could be a generational thing as in different attitudes or if the longer you do it the more cynical and possibly sceptical you get. I am genuinely interested to see what people think. "
im not sure im cynical what i have done is quieten down as ive gotten older. But there is definetly a change in young guys attitudes. Do you think you dont notice it because you dont know any different and its always been the same. I used to go to swinging clubs for about 15 years and anyone who knows me will be able to tell you i can hold my own but in the end the guys attitudes at one club ground me down in the end and i just stopped going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Negatively. All sexes.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"May I just point out when I said cynical and sceptical I meant through experience not just because of age. Lol "

I do think that a cynical attitude is more pervasive among those that have been on fab for a longer time yes. I think that a person's cynicism is directly proportionate to the length of their tenure. That's not a hard rule but it's certainly a likely trend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is just an observation and not meant in any negative way at all. I mean this with total respect.

Looking through the thread it's interesting to me the women who are over 45 and have been swinging for quite a while have said yes it has affected their views negatively, where as myself and at least one other person who is younger and not been swinging as long. Just wondering if this could be a generational thing as in different attitudes or if the longer you do it the more cynical and possibly sceptical you get. I am genuinely interested to see what people think. im not sure im cynical what i have done is quieten down as ive gotten older. But there is definetly a change in young guys attitudes. Do you think you dont notice it because you dont know any different and its always been the same. I used to go to swinging clubs for about 15 years and anyone who knows me will be able to tell you i can hold my own but in the end the guys attitudes at one club ground me down in the end and i just stopped going"

Yes sorry cynical wasn't really the right word I couldn't think of another way of wording it.

Actually I think you could be right because I tend to meet men older than me because I find them more respectful on the whole. Don't get me wrong I think the attitude of some men and women for that matter on this site is atrocious however I often think that in everyday life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes immensely, it confirmed what I already knew about women. But really surprised me to discover that men are actually so fragile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"May I just point out when I said cynical and sceptical I meant through experience not just because of age. Lol

I do think that a cynical attitude is more pervasive among those that have been on fab for a longer time yes. I think that a person's cynicism is directly proportionate to the length of their tenure. That's not a hard rule but it's certainly a likely trend. "

I do genuinely think that we live in quite an entitled Society particularly my generation and I think that reflects itself on here. So I guess it's natural as you get older and have more life experience do not want to put up with all the bullshit.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"This is just an observation and not meant in any negative way at all. I mean this with total respect.

Looking through the thread it's interesting to me the women who are over 45 and have been swinging for quite a while have said yes it has affected their views negatively, where as myself and at least one other person who is younger and not been swinging as long. Just wondering if this could be a generational thing as in different attitudes or if the longer you do it the more cynical and possibly sceptical you get. I am genuinely interested to see what people think. im not sure im cynical what i have done is quieten down as ive gotten older. But there is definetly a change in young guys attitudes. Do you think you dont notice it because you dont know any different and its always been the same. I used to go to swinging clubs for about 15 years and anyone who knows me will be able to tell you i can hold my own but in the end the guys attitudes at one club ground me down in the end and i just stopped going

Yes sorry cynical wasn't really the right word I couldn't think of another way of wording it.

Actually I think you could be right because I tend to meet men older than me because I find them more respectful on the whole. Don't get me wrong I think the attitude of some men and women for that matter on this site is atrocious however I often think that in everyday life. "

Perhaps I'm a little out of line but if you take a look at the "how dare you message me" thread I think you will find part of your answer.

I think that a lot of people view their interactions on the internet as not real, they rationalise them as just words on a screen and treat them with callous disregard on occasions, just because they can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we are shaped by who we meet.

I'm sure we all have regretted some decisions but that's the learning curve.

I've been very lucky. Met some lovely women had some fantastic times. And I still do.

But now Ive changed things as in I do dating more which I enjoy as it allows Me more time to find out about her and with a view to meet again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is just an observation and not meant in any negative way at all. I mean this with total respect.

Looking through the thread it's interesting to me the women who are over 45 and have been swinging for quite a while have said yes it has affected their views negatively, where as myself and at least one other person who is younger and not been swinging as long. Just wondering if this could be a generational thing as in different attitudes or if the longer you do it the more cynical and possibly sceptical you get. I am genuinely interested to see what people think. im not sure im cynical what i have done is quieten down as ive gotten older. But there is definetly a change in young guys attitudes. Do you think you dont notice it because you dont know any different and its always been the same. I used to go to swinging clubs for about 15 years and anyone who knows me will be able to tell you i can hold my own but in the end the guys attitudes at one club ground me down in the end and i just stopped going

Yes sorry cynical wasn't really the right word I couldn't think of another way of wording it.

Actually I think you could be right because I tend to meet men older than me because I find them more respectful on the whole. Don't get me wrong I think the attitude of some men and women for that matter on this site is atrocious however I often think that in everyday life.

Perhaps I'm a little out of line but if you take a look at the "how dare you message me" thread I think you will find part of your answer.

I think that a lot of people view their interactions on the internet as not real, they rationalise them as just words on a screen and treat them with callous disregard on occasions, just because they can. "

I have seen it and I did actually comment on it but I see that as more tongue-in-cheek. I sometimes feel that way because somebody just haven't been bothered to look at my profile not because they are not worthy of sending me a message. I would never say that to someone out loud or in a message.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It hasn't changed it! Some people are Dicks, some people are not! Regardless of whether they're on fab or not. "

Very true

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"This is just an observation and not meant in any negative way at all. I mean this with total respect.

Looking through the thread it's interesting to me the women who are over 45 and have been swinging for quite a while have said yes it has affected their views negatively, where as myself and at least one other person who is younger and not been swinging as long. Just wondering if this could be a generational thing as in different attitudes or if the longer you do it the more cynical and possibly sceptical you get. I am genuinely interested to see what people think. "

I think all views are generational to an extent, you can't help being influenced by the time and societal norms of the era you grew up in. I am naturally cynical and always have been however there is a marked difference in the way both men and women are between what my perception was in the 70s and 80s and what it is now. That has been influenced by fab, not swinging in general. Fab and the net in general allows people to express thoughts that they wouldn't feel comfortable saying out loud to other people and the net allows people to access images that most of us probably wouldn't have seen once if at all in a life time. I'm particularly concerned by Incel type posts and the conviction by people who hold similar views that they're right.

I'll be truthful and say that my impression of some men has gone down much more than of some women. However I think the entitlement of some women is equal to that of some men

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely"

same here with two exceptions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is just an observation and not meant in any negative way at all. I mean this with total respect.

Looking through the thread it's interesting to me the women who are over 45 and have been swinging for quite a while have said yes it has affected their views negatively, where as myself and at least one other person who is younger and not been swinging as long. Just wondering if this could be a generational thing as in different attitudes or if the longer you do it the more cynical and possibly sceptical you get. I am genuinely interested to see what people think.

I think all views are generational to an extent, you can't help being influenced by the time and societal norms of the era you grew up in. I am naturally cynical and always have been however there is a marked difference in the way both men and women are between what my perception was in the 70s and 80s and what it is now. That has been influenced by fab, not swinging in general. Fab and the net in general allows people to express thoughts that they wouldn't feel comfortable saying out loud to other people and the net allows people to access images that most of us probably wouldn't have seen once if at all in a life time. I'm particularly concerned by Incel type posts and the conviction by people who hold similar views that they're right.

I'll be truthful and say that my impression of some men has gone down much more than of some women. However I think the entitlement of some women is equal to that of some men"

Yes I agree with that.

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By *hortfuseWoman
over a year ago

Belfast


"Over the past 6yrs. I have joined the online dating and swinging community on and off. Over that time i have been single for the most part. Before this i had never chatted online or anything. So it was a new world that opened up. To be honest I'm not a fan. I'm an honest person. I like honesty. Unfortunately, the internet breeds lies. It enables deceit. It creates this very unnatural platform to interact on. It changes the whole process of communication. Not for the good either. "

Totally agree. It's an enabler.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions"

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight. "

we've never had a no show but one really bad experience with a couple and one with a single guy at a social meet. We have had one maybe two abusive messages in our time here. I think it is partly due to our age but also our attitude. We can sense bullshit a continent away, we are always respectful but take absolutely no mucking about and we aren't afraid to say no or call someone out.

Younger men tend to show us respect and seem to have an impression of us as being somehow more fragile emotionally and socially, I think they equate older age with naivety

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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago

Currently Faraway


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight.

we've never had a no show but one really bad experience with a couple and one with a single guy at a social meet. We have had one maybe two abusive messages in our time here. I think it is partly due to our age but also our attitude. We can sense bullshit a continent away, we are always respectful but take absolutely no mucking about and we aren't afraid to say no or call someone out.

Younger men tend to show us respect and seem to have an impression of us as being somehow more fragile emotionally and socially, I think they equate older age with naivety "

“We can sense bullshit a continent away”. I don’t know why but I am randomly interested in one or two examples from your past experiences on that score, if you’d like to share

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight. "
im lucky that im pretty astute. i take no bullshit i tend to read between the lines of what people say.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight.

we've never had a no show but one really bad experience with a couple and one with a single guy at a social meet. We have had one maybe two abusive messages in our time here. I think it is partly due to our age but also our attitude. We can sense bullshit a continent away, we are always respectful but take absolutely no mucking about and we aren't afraid to say no or call someone out.

Younger men tend to show us respect and seem to have an impression of us as being somehow more fragile emotionally and socially, I think they equate older age with naivety

“We can sense bullshit a continent away”. I don’t know why but I am randomly interested in one or two examples from your past experiences on that score, if you’d like to share "

its difficult to give examples, its a superpower

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it has!

I am so lucky to have a fit, normal, sexy, filthy wife! Shes one in a million, she has no hang ups, always laid back, we never argue, she doesn’t sulk and shes just perfect! When I look at whats out there... well ... put it this way if anything happened to her tomorrow id definitely and without question remain single for the rest of my life.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight. im lucky that im pretty astute. i take no bullshit i tend to read between the lines of what people say."

exactly! I'm often surprised at examples people quote of having been taken in by someone and think "how did you not suss this out in the first message!?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve learnt that every women, bar none has a dildo next to the bed.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I’ve learnt that every women, bar none has a dildo next to the bed."

It's the law

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve also learnt that I never want to see another cock again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has being a Fab member influenced your views on the opposite sex?

Positively towards women. In the sense that it has enabled me to see how sexually selective they are.

Negatively towards lots of men. Whether they are married and shagging behind wifeys back or they are on here ranting and raving that they can't get a meet or pull in a club. Or even that they are on here with a couples profile and for some unknown reason wifey can't meet. That's before I mention the incels making fake profiles to wind people up.

There's a ton of undiagnosed and untreated mental illness on here. Mainly from the male side of the sexes. #sexualisedrage

#mytwopence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight. im lucky that im pretty astute. i take no bullshit i tend to read between the lines of what people say."

I'm definitely getting better at sniffing out the bullshit.

But I think that you had a point earlier when you said that maybe because I don't really know any different I suppose I'm a bit more used to it. I'm part of the first generation that grew up with the internet and social media and I think that has definitely influenced people's attitude.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’ve learnt that every women, bar none has a dildo next to the bed.

It's the law"

Yep!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight. im lucky that im pretty astute. i take no bullshit i tend to read between the lines of what people say.

I'm definitely getting better at sniffing out the bullshit.

But I think that you had a point earlier when you said that maybe because I don't really know any different I suppose I'm a bit more used to it. I'm part of the first generation that grew up with the internet and social media and I think that has definitely influenced people's attitude. "
yes it does influence people. I know life before the internet and i do have to remember that the younger generation no no different. I have a 28 year old son and he laughs at me sometimes because of my lack of understanding

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight. im lucky that im pretty astute. i take no bullshit i tend to read between the lines of what people say.

I'm definitely getting better at sniffing out the bullshit.

But I think that you had a point earlier when you said that maybe because I don't really know any different I suppose I'm a bit more used to it. I'm part of the first generation that grew up with the internet and social media and I think that has definitely influenced people's attitude. yes it does influence people. I know life before the internet and i do have to remember that the younger generation no no different. I have a 28 year old son and he laughs at me sometimes because of my lack of understanding

"

It used to be us laughing at our parents for not trusting calculators .

I have recently been helping my father (mid nineties) with a Facebook account. He genuinely cannot grasp the concept of the net at all, to him its real magic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's influenced my views of some people.

I don't let it influence my views of whole groups of people.

We are all different, unique, just people, not collections of demographics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It has impacted my view in a negative fashion somewhat. It's also made me view myself in a more negative fashion. I have an excellent bullshit radar, but have recently realised that this can be flawed. To put your trust into someone, only to relise by their actions later on, that you have been decieved, can be a bitter pill to swallow. So my guard is even more up than usual at the moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It has impacted my view in a negative fashion somewhat. It's also made me view myself in a more negative fashion. I have an excellent bullshit radar, but have recently realised that this can be flawed. To put your trust into someone, only to relise by their actions later on, that you have been decieved, can be a bitter pill to swallow. So my guard is even more up than usual at the moment "

Realise*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight. im lucky that im pretty astute. i take no bullshit i tend to read between the lines of what people say.

I'm definitely getting better at sniffing out the bullshit.

But I think that you had a point earlier when you said that maybe because I don't really know any different I suppose I'm a bit more used to it. I'm part of the first generation that grew up with the internet and social media and I think that has definitely influenced people's attitude. yes it does influence people. I know life before the internet and i do have to remember that the younger generation no no different. I have a 28 year old son and he laughs at me sometimes because of my lack of understanding

It used to be us laughing at our parents for not trusting calculators .

I have recently been helping my father (mid nineties) with a Facebook account. He genuinely cannot grasp the concept of the net at all, to him its real magic. "

Yes us Young Ones need to be nice to you old folk!

As my aunt says " don't laugh at me for not being able to use a computer, I taught you how to wipe your bum".

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight. im lucky that im pretty astute. i take no bullshit i tend to read between the lines of what people say.

I'm definitely getting better at sniffing out the bullshit.

But I think that you had a point earlier when you said that maybe because I don't really know any different I suppose I'm a bit more used to it. I'm part of the first generation that grew up with the internet and social media and I think that has definitely influenced people's attitude. yes it does influence people. I know life before the internet and i do have to remember that the younger generation no no different. I have a 28 year old son and he laughs at me sometimes because of my lack of understanding

It used to be us laughing at our parents for not trusting calculators .

I have recently been helping my father (mid nineties) with a Facebook account. He genuinely cannot grasp the concept of the net at all, to him its real magic. "
awwww bless him. i have no idea what someone of that age thinks to it all it must be fascinating chatting to him. My mum is only 74 and knows more about the internet than me. My son is really patient and sorts lots out for me

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight. im lucky that im pretty astute. i take no bullshit i tend to read between the lines of what people say.

I'm definitely getting better at sniffing out the bullshit.

But I think that you had a point earlier when you said that maybe because I don't really know any different I suppose I'm a bit more used to it. I'm part of the first generation that grew up with the internet and social media and I think that has definitely influenced people's attitude. yes it does influence people. I know life before the internet and i do have to remember that the younger generation no no different. I have a 28 year old son and he laughs at me sometimes because of my lack of understanding

It used to be us laughing at our parents for not trusting calculators .

I have recently been helping my father (mid nineties) with a Facebook account. He genuinely cannot grasp the concept of the net at all, to him its real magic. awwww bless him. i have no idea what someone of that age thinks to it all it must be fascinating chatting to him. My mum is only 74 and knows more about the internet than me. My son is really patient and sorts lots out for me"

We're both really net savvy, more so than a lot of younger people. We were in at the start of commercial internet use and have both used it in our jobs ever since.

It's amusing to be patronised by youngsters who see our age and think we won't know how to use the net.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight. im lucky that im pretty astute. i take no bullshit i tend to read between the lines of what people say.

I'm definitely getting better at sniffing out the bullshit.

But I think that you had a point earlier when you said that maybe because I don't really know any different I suppose I'm a bit more used to it. I'm part of the first generation that grew up with the internet and social media and I think that has definitely influenced people's attitude. yes it does influence people. I know life before the internet and i do have to remember that the younger generation no no different. I have a 28 year old son and he laughs at me sometimes because of my lack of understanding

It used to be us laughing at our parents for not trusting calculators .

I have recently been helping my father (mid nineties) with a Facebook account. He genuinely cannot grasp the concept of the net at all, to him its real magic. awwww bless him. i have no idea what someone of that age thinks to it all it must be fascinating chatting to him. My mum is only 74 and knows more about the internet than me. My son is really patient and sorts lots out for me

We're both really net savvy, more so than a lot of younger people. We were in at the start of commercial internet use and have both used it in our jobs ever since.

It's amusing to be patronised by youngsters who see our age and think we won't know how to use the net."

I really hope you don't think I was being patronising because that was certainly not my intention.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"oh and i will just add. While ive been on fab ive never had a timewaster or no show and have only met lovely respectful guys. You just have to chose wisely

same here with two exceptions

That's really interesting because I've never had a no-show , I've had plenty of people cancel but never anyone that just hasn't turned up but I have plenty of time wasters and abuse. Again I wonder if that's a generational thing! I mean the fact that because I'm younger and also because maybe the guys and couples messaging me I'm a little bit younger. I find all this fascinating and I really appreciate your insight. im lucky that im pretty astute. i take no bullshit i tend to read between the lines of what people say.

I'm definitely getting better at sniffing out the bullshit.

But I think that you had a point earlier when you said that maybe because I don't really know any different I suppose I'm a bit more used to it. I'm part of the first generation that grew up with the internet and social media and I think that has definitely influenced people's attitude. yes it does influence people. I know life before the internet and i do have to remember that the younger generation no no different. I have a 28 year old son and he laughs at me sometimes because of my lack of understanding

It used to be us laughing at our parents for not trusting calculators .

I have recently been helping my father (mid nineties) with a Facebook account. He genuinely cannot grasp the concept of the net at all, to him its real magic. awwww bless him. i have no idea what someone of that age thinks to it all it must be fascinating chatting to him. My mum is only 74 and knows more about the internet than me. My son is really patient and sorts lots out for me

We're both really net savvy, more so than a lot of younger people. We were in at the start of commercial internet use and have both used it in our jobs ever since.

It's amusing to be patronised by youngsters who see our age and think we won't know how to use the net.

I really hope you don't think I was being patronising because that was certainly not my intention."

No I don't think you were.

I'm talking about the young people who look pityingly at me and say "do you know how to use the internet?" as if I just stepped out of a time machine from 1919 . I usually reply "yes, what would you like to know"

Patronising behaviour goes both ways. Have you seen how some of the older people on here behave towards younger men?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It hasn't changed the way I think about the opposite sex but it has openedmy eyes to how many sexually liberated women there are out there. We tend not to be so visible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It hasn't changed the way I think about the opposite sex but it has openedmy eyes to how many sexually liberated women there are out there. We tend not to be so visible. "

That's true.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows


"Curious..."

No, I take people as individuals.

I've met the best & worst of people on here but I don't judge an entire gender on the actions of a small minority.

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By *ngelina4uWoman
over a year ago

Camberley/Middleton

I like to think I was fully aware what they were like before joining fab so no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think people are people you meet great and wonderful people and complete knobs as well doesn't matter about their sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i find people are diferent hiding behind a computer screen than they are in real life ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It hasn't changed the way I think about the opposite sex but it has openedmy eyes to how many sexually liberated women there are out there. We tend not to be so visible. "
agree with this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes...that hardcore feminists are not just mythical figures hiding out in american academia and Twitter but are here amongst his.

#allmenarestilltrash

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not influenced by messages!

Getting to know people can only be done properly face to face!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Curious...

No, I take people as individuals.

I've met the best & worst of people on here but I don't judge an entire gender on the actions of a small minority.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm not influenced by messages!

Getting to know people can only be done properly face to face!

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By *electableDalliances OP   Couple
over a year ago

leeds

Interesting array of opinions, cheers

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)


"Yes...that hardcore feminists are not just mythical figures hiding out in american academia and Twitter but are here amongst his.

#allmenarestilltrash "

I think you need a new drum...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've discovered there are mainly 2 types of people on fab.

Those that are desperate for something (be it sex, attention, whatever) and those that aren't.

There's also some lovely people on here and those that are carrying baggage which isn't healthy.

Of course, my opinion is only a sample size due to my interaction.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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Yes. Negatively unfortunately. I think that’s mainly because I’m too naive though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think my view of either sex has changed much, for better or worse. But it's given me lots more insight into both, which I enjoy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't think my view of either sex has changed much, for better or worse. But it's given me lots more insight into both, which I enjoy."
amen

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire


"Mysogny is sadly alive and kicking, they then expect women to want to fuck them.

Not all men but, rather a lot."

This for me too. My impressions of men went so low i stopped interacting with them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is just an observation and not meant in any negative way at all. I mean this with total respect.

Looking through the thread it's interesting to me the women who are over 45 and have been swinging for quite a while have said yes it has affected their views negatively, where as myself and at least one other person who is younger and not been swinging as long. Just wondering if this could be a generational thing as in different attitudes or if the longer you do it the more cynical and possibly sceptical you get. I am genuinely interested to see what people think. im not sure im cynical what i have done is quieten down as ive gotten older. But there is definetly a change in young guys attitudes. Do you think you dont notice it because you dont know any different and its always been the same. I used to go to swinging clubs for about 15 years and anyone who knows me will be able to tell you i can hold my own but in the end the guys attitudes at one club ground me down in the end and i just stopped going

Yes sorry cynical wasn't really the right word I couldn't think of another way of wording it.

Actually I think you could be right because I tend to meet men older than me because I find them more respectful on the whole. Don't get me wrong I think the attitude of some men and women for that matter on this site is atrocious however I often think that in everyday life.

Perhaps I'm a little out of line but if you take a look at the "how dare you message me" thread I think you will find part of your answer.

I think that a lot of people view their interactions on the internet as not real, they rationalise them as just words on a screen and treat them with callous disregard on occasions, just because they can. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, negatively.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Fab males are not representative of males in a wider setting ..... the same is so of females.

A person would be a total idiot to judge a gender based on FAB membership.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, with age comes experience..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fab males are not representative of males in a wider setting ..... the same is so of females.

A person would be a total idiot to judge a gender based on FAB membership. "

Possibly, but the amount of people cheating on fab opened my eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Curious..."

No but then I'm quite comfortable with my attitude towards women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah I’ve been on the internet a long time. I’ve seen lots of shitty behaviour from both sexes. I generally only interact with people I like who may think I’m worth interacting with. Anyone else is white noise most of the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mostly negative.

Being a honest and genuine bloke that's slightly stocky it gets you nowhere ... Fab proves that time after time.

It just seems to be easy for women and impossible for most men.

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By *eneral HysteriaMan
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Curious..."

My views have been influenced most positively.

I hadn't realised until I started swinging just how much women could enjoy sex and being sexual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fab males are not representative of males in a wider setting ..... the same is so of females.

A person would be a total idiot to judge a gender based on FAB membership.

Possibly, but the amount of people cheating on fab opened my eyes. "

Exactly that! I already knew which ones from the old school fabbers are cheating from the last time I was on here, but...

Some more are coming out all the time!

I wonder if there are more cheaters then actual real singles on here now

Having said that to stick to the thread topic my personal experience overall on the opposite sex has been a positive one.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

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I think it's positive overall of men. It's been a good learning experience and I've encountered a huge variety of things about people but it all creates a richer tapestry of life and the differences amongst everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Negatively for the majority.

Positively for the minority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Negatively for the majority.

Positively for the minority."

Holy moly! Where did that cracking post come from. Damn! That sums it right up.

I am sure it was you saying something about "personalities clashing" a while back, but I could not post because bloody thread vanished. I remember reading it and thinking that hits the nail on the head.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Negatively for the majority.

Positively for the minority.

Holy moly! Where did that cracking post come from. Damn! That sums it right up.

I am sure it was you saying something about "personalities clashing" a while back, but I could not post because bloody thread vanished. I remember reading it and thinking that hits the nail on the head."

Yeah there's a ton of that on here! Plus... 'group personality clashing'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fab males are not representative of males in a wider setting ..... the same is so of females.

A person would be a total idiot to judge a gender based on FAB membership.

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Too true x

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

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" I was about 40 when i joined fab id already had 40 years experience of the opposite sex. However when i first joined internet sites it opened my eyes. And i have noticed in the last couple of years that guys attitudes to women and sex have changed. Theres always been guys that think women are a piece of meet but over the last couple of years the attitudes of "some" men towards women appalls me and i have to say it is mostly younger guys i see it in. I blame it on being exposed to more hardcore porn. Lack of social skills and that they dont socialize with women in everyday life and spend their whole life sitting in their bedroom wanking to hardcore porn and have lost touch or have a warped perseption of reality and real life women. It saddens me"

Spot on about porn I think, I am quite scared for what young females may have to go through to be honest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's also given me a much dimmer view of humanity in general.

Like how the fuck are fully grown adults so entertained by a cyber game of kiss fuck pass with people they'll probably never meet???

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