FabSwingers.com forum: do you like the feeling of meat in your mouth?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Why are we pampering Vegans?

I live in Manchester, close to Bury who is famous for the black pudding. Why oh why in God’s name would you produce a black pudding for vegans or vegetarians? The thing itself is made from pigs blood. Why on earth would you want to eat something that resembles the thing you don’t want to eat? (Like the Greggs none sausage roll).

As a vegan, would you have a false tigers head on your wall above your fireplace?

I simply don’t see why? Please can someone explain?

Aren’t green grocers already selling what you need?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Perhaps they have FOMO

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

I've decided to become a Pescatarian this year , so far so good, just thought you'd like to know

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By *he Mac LassWoman
over a year ago

Hefty Hideaway

If the market is there for those products then why not? Quorn replacements for chicken, burgers, sausages etc have long been a thing.

Don’t sweat the small stuff Bee.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love meat and vegetables, and I don't really care what they make for folks with different preferences.

Bit like fab I suppose innit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thought this was a naughty post about meat in mouth lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If the market is there for those products then why not? Quorn replacements for chicken, burgers, sausages etc have long been a thing.

Don’t sweat the small stuff Bee. "

That’s the bit I don’t understand, where businesses make things like meat free bacon, or meat free chicken. That’s the stuff they decided not to eat, if you miss bacon, that’s your hard luck.

. Fancy biting something with a bit more substance than an aubergine, eat a steak!

But it’s this blood pudding that’s baffled me. I’m intrigued to know if a vegetarian would eat one and swallow it knowing the food it is based on .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thought this was a naughty post about meat in mouth lol"

Click bait..

Otherwise no one would bother looking

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By *he Mac LassWoman
over a year ago

Hefty Hideaway

Where do you stand on Gummi Bears?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn’t it just a fashion food at this present time for tree huggers ? Each to their own , just my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Burger patties, sausages and fingers are a shape and we can have them made from anything.

I can't think of any reason to have a vegan black pudding.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

It's probably just a variety thing, they don't want to eat actual meat or animal products but still like a variety of tastes and textures.

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By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

Not all vegans are vegan for ethical or moral reasons. And even some of those that are still like the flavour and taste just don’t like the processes required to get that. If they can get what they want in a way that suits them without any big deal to anyone else, long may they enjoy it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Similar to decaf coffee and alcohol free beer. I’ve tasted both and both a nowhere near the original in terms of taste. Feels like if you go for the “free” options you’re being short changed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am enjoying meat less and less

I don't mind it in things like pies, pasties, stews etc. but I would struggle to eat a piece of meat if it was put in front of me, be it a steak or a chicken fillet

I do eat a lot of Quorn & Linda McCartney products

I don't think I could ever be fully veggie tho - sausage rolls and bacon butties have too much of a draw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the market is there for those products then why not? Quorn replacements for chicken, burgers, sausages etc have long been a thing.

Don’t sweat the small stuff Bee.

That’s the bit I don’t understand, where businesses make things like meat free bacon, or meat free chicken. That’s the stuff they decided not to eat, if you miss bacon, that’s your hard luck.

. Fancy biting something with a bit more substance than an aubergine, eat a steak!

But it’s this blood pudding that’s baffled me. I’m intrigued to know if a vegetarian would eat one and swallow it knowing the food it is based on . "

"Why do people make meat free chicken?"

Cause your body needs protein and sadly pulses, with the exception of canned ones and lentils, tend to take long prep time.

On the flip side I can get the 80g of protein I need on a compound workout day, using yogurt at breakfast, almonds at lunch, and Quorn at dinner.

Food is not just about taste and texture but also about nutrition, and vise versa.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am enjoying meat less and less

I don't mind it in things like pies, pasties, stews etc. but I would struggle to eat a piece of meat if it was put in front of me, be it a steak or a chicken fillet

I do eat a lot of Quorn & Linda McCartney products

I don't think I could ever be fully veggie tho - sausage rolls and bacon butties have too much of a draw

I enjoy Sunday roast and meat dishes even more now that I have 3 vegetarian days per week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All this gluten free vegan stuff is packed with bloody salt else it tastes of bugger all in fact it still tastes of bugger all Have tried Quirn sausages Jesus I would rather eat cardboard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All this gluten free vegan stuff is packed with bloody salt else it tastes of bugger all in fact it still tastes of bugger all Have tried Quirn sausages Jesus I would rather eat cardboard "
Quorn sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah, only the ready meals. The plain stuff is fine. Takes on the flavour of the pasta or curry you put it in imo

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

A vegetarian friend often tells me he has "vegetarian ham" in his sandwich. I always casually reply "no, you don't".

Neither of us gets out much so this keeps us amused.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the market is there for those products then why not? Quorn replacements for chicken, burgers, sausages etc have long been a thing.

Don’t sweat the small stuff Bee.

That’s the bit I don’t understand, where businesses make things like meat free bacon, or meat free chicken. That’s the stuff they decided not to eat, if you miss bacon, that’s your hard luck.

. Fancy biting something with a bit more substance than an aubergine, eat a steak!

But it’s this blood pudding that’s baffled me. I’m intrigued to know if a vegetarian would eat one and swallow it knowing the food it is based on . "

Because the food industry isn't focused on vegans (small % of population) but on non vegans who wish to incorporate vegan food into their mixed diet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the market is there for those products then why not? Quorn replacements for chicken, burgers, sausages etc have long been a thing.

Don’t sweat the small stuff Bee.

That’s the bit I don’t understand, where businesses make things like meat free bacon, or meat free chicken. That’s the stuff they decided not to eat, if you miss bacon, that’s your hard luck.

. Fancy biting something with a bit more substance than an aubergine, eat a steak!

But it’s this blood pudding that’s baffled me. I’m intrigued to know if a vegetarian would eat one and swallow it knowing the food it is based on .

"Why do people make meat free chicken?"

Cause your body needs protein and sadly pulses, with the exception of canned ones and lentils, tend to take long prep time.

On the flip side I can get the 80g of protein I need on a compound workout day, using yogurt at breakfast, almonds at lunch, and Quorn at dinner.

Food is not just about taste and texture but also about nutrition, and vise versa."

You need to talk to my friend lol he's a vegan international iron man and he would totally disagree with using quorn

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Thought this was a naughty post about meat in mouth lol

Click bait..

Otherwise no one would bother looking

Or replying.......

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By *anguyXXXMan
over a year ago

torquay

I dont even understand why it matters

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"A vegetarian friend often tells me he has "vegetarian ham" in his sandwich. I always casually reply "no, you don't".

Neither of us gets out much so this keeps us amused.

This is right. It’s a non meat product, so why try to pretend it’s meat?

As a poster above said, you need protein. Fancy trying a protein finger stick then....not as lipsmackingly attractive on a menu is it?

I just laugh when I read ‘meat free product’. Then call it what it is, it’s nothing to do with a chicken, pig, or cow.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"A vegetarian friend often tells me he has "vegetarian ham" in his sandwich. I always casually reply "no, you don't".

Neither of us gets out much so this keeps us amused.

This is right. It’s a non meat product, so why try to pretend it’s meat?

As a poster above said, you need protein. Fancy trying a protein finger stick then....not as lipsmackingly attractive on a menu is it?

I just laugh when I read ‘meat free product’. Then call it what it is, it’s nothing to do with a chicken, pig, or cow. "

Nobody feels the need to put "vegetable free product" on steak.

I think its not so much to do with vegans and vegetarians wanting things to resemble meat but because its easy to recognise a meat free sausage roll for instance from that description whereas if it was called a quorn/soy/tofu/vegetable roll it could mean anything.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Isn’t it just a fashion food at this present time for tree huggers ? Each to their own , just my opinion "

No. It isn't. I'm vegan. I'm not a tree hugger.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"It's probably just a variety thing, they don't want to eat actual meat or animal products but still like a variety of tastes and textures. "

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

and it's a shared language that we understand.

If I ask for a veggie burger you know what a burger is.

Am I supposed to ask for a doobidddy doooooooo if I want a sausage?

A sausage is a SHAPE. Doesn't have to be meat.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Is it meat free cardboard ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I am enjoying meat less and less

I don't mind it in things like pies, pasties, stews etc. but I would struggle to eat a piece of meat if it was put in front of me, be it a steak or a chicken fillet

I do eat a lot of Quorn & Linda McCartney products

I don't think I could ever be fully veggie tho - sausage rolls and bacon butties have too much of a draw

Linda's chorizo style sausages are tasty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"and it's a shared language that we understand.

If I ask for a veggie burger you know what a burger is.

Am I supposed to ask for a doobidddy doooooooo if I want a sausage?

A sausage is a SHAPE. Doesn't have to be meat. "

Have you ever seen a burger shaped dick?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Burger patties, sausages and fingers are a shape and we can have them made from anything.

I can't think of any reason to have a vegan black pudding."

So when im having a hash brown, beans , toast , vegan sausage, what do I call the round thing on my plate ? Mmmmmm think i'll call it a vegan black puddin' ......

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"and it's a shared language that we understand.

If I ask for a veggie burger you know what a burger is.

Am I supposed to ask for a doobidddy doooooooo if I want a sausage?

A sausage is a SHAPE. Doesn't have to be meat.

Have you ever seen a burger shaped dick?"

Only yours

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

I've never really understood the desire to replace a meat product with a vegetarian/vegan imitation that is made to taste similar. They never taste the same and are usually poor imitations of the meat product.

I didn't eat meat for over 20 years and I hated the quorn products. It wasn't out of principle for me, I just didn't like the flavour and texture of meat. Whilst the imitations weren't the same they tasted similar enough for me to not like them either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"and it's a shared language that we understand.

If I ask for a veggie burger you know what a burger is.

Am I supposed to ask for a doobidddy doooooooo if I want a sausage?

A sausage is a SHAPE. Doesn't have to be meat.

Have you ever seen a burger shaped dick?

Only yours"

I would put my burger in your bun

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"and it's a shared language that we understand.

If I ask for a veggie burger you know what a burger is.

Am I supposed to ask for a doobidddy doooooooo if I want a sausage?

A sausage is a SHAPE. Doesn't have to be meat.

Have you ever seen a burger shaped dick?

Only yours

I would put my burger in your bun"

What about your jack in my flap ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn’t it just a fashion food at this present time for tree huggers ? Each to their own , just my opinion

No. It isn't. I'm vegan. I'm not a tree hugger. "

My friend became vegan after having cancer, a hospital doctor scared the living daylights out of her by saying this was the only way to "ensure" it didn't return.

I thought that was appalling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What would a blood free blood sausage be made out of. Beetroot?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What would a blood free blood sausage be made out of. Beetroot?"

So it should be called a beetroot sausage?

There’s flipping freezers in super markets that are labeled ‘meat free’....yes so is the vegetable sections....

i think it might be the drumming down that I laugh at.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

I’ve been vegetarian all my life .

When I was at school I had no choice but to take a packed lunch in , there was no option for vegetarian kids in the sixties .

Now it’s mainstream with loads of vegetarian alternatives to meat , and I truly can’t see why meat eaters have an issue with meat free alternatives to sausages , bacon , ham , black pudding or anything else .

I’ve never tried to force anyone to become vegetarian , nor had a dig at anyone who eats meat . I can’t see why we can’t be afforded the same respect . The way vegans get spoken about is worse than how it used to be for blacks and gays before society grew up , and realised how ridiculous it was to be so anti for the colour of ones skin or ones sexuality , and now it’s the same vitrol for what people eat ffs ....

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By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

"I’ve been vegetarian all my life .

When I was at school I had no choice but to take a packed lunch in , there was no option for vegetarian kids in the sixties .

Totally agree. I did state in the last thread hammering vegans, how come the only posts about being vegetarian or vegan or complaints from meat eaters. What’s your beef?

Seriously has no bearing, yet it happens over and over again. Apart from the obvious, it’s now so easy, is your moral/ethical conscience pricking and being offensive is the obvious defence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn’t it just a fashion food at this present time for tree huggers ? Each to their own , just my opinion "

This was funny

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

As a cocksucker i thought this thread may interest me...doh!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn’t it just a fashion food at this present time for tree huggers ? Each to their own , just my opinion

No. It isn't. I'm vegan. I'm not a tree hugger.

My friend became vegan after having cancer, a hospital doctor scared the living daylights out of her by saying this was the only way to "ensure" it didn't return.

I thought that was appalling."

Medically speaking that's incorrect as far as I'm aware and unprofessional.

However, reducing red meat and processed meat consumption is heavily linked to reduced cancer rate. Particularly ovarian, break, pancreatic and testicular.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’ve been vegetarian all my life .

When I was at school I had no choice but to take a packed lunch in , there was no option for vegetarian kids in the sixties .

Not even veggie or vegan but 100% agree.

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By *wingin CatMan
over a year ago

London

Someone told me that they thought shops that sell meat were gross.

I told him that shops that sell fruit and veg are grocer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The way vegans get spoken about is worse than how it used to be for blacks and gays before society grew up , and realised how ridiculous it was to be so anti for the colour of ones skin or ones sexuality , and now it’s the same vitrol for what people eat ffs ....

Really? That bad is it? Let me know when society will be okay with me enslaving you for being a vegan. Get over it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Sorry to anyone who thought I had a go at their food choices. I thought it odd that the only way to get a vegan or vegetarian to eat their product was to disguise it as the food they choose to turn away from.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Really? That bad is it? Let me know when society will be okay with me enslaving you for being a vegan. Get over it. "

I should there really any need to be so rude ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Sorry to anyone who thought I had a go at their food choices. I thought it odd that the only way to get a vegan or vegetarian to eat their product was to disguise it as the food they choose to turn away from.

I don't CARE if you have a go at my food choices. It was just your passing thoughts.

Your logic is very flawed tho. And it seems your knowledge is very limited. Vegans don't look for disguised foods-just animal produce free foods.

People keep saying 'meat free' but meat free and vegan aren't the same. Most quorn isn't vegan.

The reason that vegans and veganism are becoming so noticeable is the HUGE increase in people going vegan for reasons other than being animal lovers.

Some vegans are eating plant based products because of the enormous amount of evidence that indicates that if our ways of farming stop , decrease etc then this will greatly assist the fight against global warming. They aren't necessarily the snowflakey animal sympathisers that they are painted to be.

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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago

Filthy Fuckeryville

My son as we speak is eating quorn vegan fish fingers.

He is vegan and enjoys it but occasionally fancies something like he used to eat.... He also ate vegan mac n cheese in the states (not to be confused with Fabs lovely MrsMac)!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My friend is a vegan and she loves meat and the taste of meat but as an animal lover her conscience has stopped her from eating meat. She likes meat substitutes as she misses the taste of meat ...

Some people choose to be veggie/vegan out of conviction but still miss meat...

Simple

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"My son as we speak is eating quorn vegan fish fingers.

He is vegan and enjoys it but occasionally fancies something like he used to eat.... He also ate vegan mac n cheese in the states (not to be confused with Fabs lovely MrsMac)!

I like those. See the reason I like them is for the breadcrumb and yes ..... it does help to have foods similar to what you were used to.

I like quorn nuggets and schitzel too

I like shredded protien to flavour like duck etc an have in pancakes.... lovely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My friend is a vegan and she loves meat and the taste of meat but as an animal lover her conscience has stopped her from eating meat. She likes meat substitutes as she misses the taste of meat ...

Some people choose to be veggie/vegan out of conviction but still miss meat...

Simple

I think that is the most I have ever said meat

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By *ailorJerryLoversCouple
over a year ago

South Herts

The recent promotion of meat free alternatives has got nothing to do with pandering at all.

It's just money and marketing.

If the companies didn't think that the products would sell, they wouldn't exist.

If no one buys them they'll go away.

If there is a market, they'll stay.

It's just that and nothing else.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Anyway , I’ve got over it now , and it’s all good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not all vegans are vegan for ethical or moral reasons. And even some of those that are still like the flavour and taste just don’t like the processes required to get that. If they can get what they want in a way that suits them without any big deal to anyone else, long may they enjoy it"

Absolutely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the market is there for those products then why not? Quorn replacements for chicken, burgers, sausages etc have long been a thing.

Don’t sweat the small stuff Bee.

That’s the bit I don’t understand, where businesses make things like meat free bacon, or meat free chicken. That’s the stuff they decided not to eat, if you miss bacon, that’s your hard luck.

. Fancy biting something with a bit more substance than an aubergine, eat a steak!

But it’s this blood pudding that’s baffled me. I’m intrigued to know if a vegetarian would eat one and swallow it knowing the food it is based on .

"Why do people make meat free chicken?"

Cause your body needs protein and sadly pulses, with the exception of canned ones and lentils, tend to take long prep time.

On the flip side I can get the 80g of protein I need on a compound workout day, using yogurt at breakfast, almonds at lunch, and Quorn at dinner.

Food is not just about taste and texture but also about nutrition, and vise versa."

Totally

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By *azkinsWoman
over a year ago

leeds

Not all Quorn products are vegan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im vegan.

Why does it bother you what we eat.

Juts live your life.

Ive never... Ever.. Ever judged someone who eats meat before that is slung at me lol.

I believe meat will not be sustainable in future years. Not to feed the growing population.

Quorn was invested for this very reason.

I like the taste of meat... I just dont want to eat an animal.

Let me enjoy my Vegan sausage rolls bro lol.

Live and let live.

Im hardly pampered to.

Companies are just jumping on the band wagon to make vegan foods.. Because its highly profitable a d a massively growing market.

Tell me what's wrong with making money??

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By *elma and ShaggyCouple
over a year ago

Bedworth

My mother in law has been advised to eat a vegan diet for health reasons. However, she’s finding it difficult.

She beat breast cancer but the meds recommended for her to prevent cancer recurrence seem to have such bad side effects that it makes her quality of life almost unbearable. She’s always been health conscious and eaten lots of fresh fruit and veg. She’s eaten limited amounts of meat for as long as I’ve known her and she’s lactose intolerant too. But; the step to being vegan is proving harder that most people would anticipate.

The in laws are visiting us in a week and I have a full menu of vegan meals planned for their stay. They don’t know it yet but I plan to cook the same stuff as usual, but with tweaks to make it all vegan

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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago

Filthy Fuckeryville

"My son as we speak is eating quorn vegan fish fingers.

He is vegan and enjoys it but occasionally fancies something like he used to eat.... He also ate vegan mac n cheese in the states (not to be confused with Fabs lovely MrsMac)!

I like those. See the reason I like them is for the breadcrumb and yes ..... it does help to have foods similar to what you were used to.

I like quorn nuggets and schitzel too

I like shredded protien to flavour like duck etc an have in pancakes.... lovely"

He isn't a massive fan of the jackfruit shredded stuff that is made into crab, pulled pork and shredded duck type things..... However there is an eatery in Liverpool that does a satan based 'shredded duck' which he would trade his right leg for lol

He loves the fish fingers but isn't so hot on the nuggets. And agreed re quorn although at least they mark their products pretty clearly as Vegan or not now

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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

Op -get over it -we live in a world of free choice -if someone decides to produce such a product, what is the problem? -after all the vegans/ vegetarians out there are just expressing a choice -you don't have to purchase said products you know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to work next to a health food shop,a lot of people who went in there to buy food looked really ill

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why are we pampering Vegans?

As a vegan, would you have a false tigers head on your wall above your fireplace?

I simply don’t see why? Please can someone explain?

Aren’t green grocers already selling what you need?

The choice to be vegan is mainly not about how things taste! That's just a myth. People choose veganism and vegetarianism for reasons such as the crue processes animals are put through to give us meat in the supermarket shelves. For some it's the ecological impact that farming has on our planet. Some people do it for health reasons, meat and dairy products over eaten are not good for us, as many foods aren't. All foods have benefits and draw backs, if people are happy to eat anything in moderation then that's their choice, as is veganism, vegetarianism etc. Not sure why this upsets you so much Op, perhaps a little reading up on the subject matter may temper your frustration

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's to increase the market sales dum dum.

So people such as myself who decrease their meat intake on health and environmental grounds are encouraged to buy because the price is competitive.

And so then I can encourage others to try it; ie my dad who said he'd never try tofu, I did a 'chicken style' curry using tofu, and suddenly he likes it.

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over a year ago

I like the feeling of meat in my mouth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really? That bad is it? Let me know when society will be okay with me enslaving you for being a vegan. Get over it. "

Not to open up this can of worms too much - but all human societies dehumanised other ethnic and racial groups to justify their enslavement.

Meanwhile, we think that we can freely enslave most animals - and lets be blunt, animal husbandry is enslavement, by saying "well we are human beings" when in reality we are not separate from the rest of the animal kingdom.

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over a year ago

I see it as this, if I had to kill it myself I’d definitely be a vegan as no way could I do it.

I went to my friends farm the other week to meet the new piglets. Since then I can’t eat pork as I keep seeing them.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

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"I used to work next to a health food shop,a lot of people who went in there to buy food looked really ill"

That could be because they started shopping there to try and get better ?

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