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"My preference to meet straight guys is because if I'm meeting a guy usually will be with my partner and two guys with each other doesn't have the turn on factor for me. It's not an issue as such just does nothing for me but if he wants to play straight then that's all good...horses for courses n all that." That's fair enough, I get your reasons. Like I said; I'm not looking to question preferences. | |||
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"There have been a number of threads recently on the subject of bisexual guys and people's problems with them lying or not wanting to meet them etc. I'm not looking to challenge anyone's preferences, I'm just asking the question; what's the issue with them? " Guess it's personal preferences | |||
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"We have never had a problem with men in couples who are bi, they frequently don't mention it or run a separate bi couple profile anyway so we don't even know half the time. Our problems is with bi women in couples. We no longer meet them due to experience of extreme pushiness and insistence that I try ff with them. We are aware that not all bi women are like this but its happened too often for me to be willing to take the chance." I'll second that. Similar experience with bi females when I had a couples profile. | |||
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"We have never had a problem with men in couples who are bi, they frequently don't mention it or run a separate bi couple profile anyway so we don't even know half the time. Our problems is with bi women in couples. We no longer meet them due to experience of extreme pushiness and insistence that I try ff with them. We are aware that not all bi women are like this but its happened too often for me to be willing to take the chance. I'll second that. Similar experience with bi females when I had a couples profile. " Yep we have never had an instance of a bi guy trying his luck. | |||
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"Regardless of gender, race or sexuality. There’s to many over opinionated judgmental arseholes that use these forums. Each to their own. Do what pleases you. Live and let live. Cest le vie. Don’t be a cunt "Yes, the forums would be a lot better if it was just an echo chamber. | |||
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"We have never had a problem with men in couples who are bi, they frequently don't mention it or run a separate bi couple profile anyway so we don't even know half the time. Our problems is with bi women in couples. We no longer meet them due to experience of extreme pushiness and insistence that I try ff with them. We are aware that not all bi women are like this but its happened too often for me to be willing to take the chance. I'll second that. Similar experience with bi females when I had a couples profile. Yep we have never had an instance of a bi guy trying his luck." I do wonder if that is part of some people's thinking? That the bi guy is going to be so overcome that he'll just grab the other guy. | |||
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"Regardless of gender, race or sexuality. There’s to many over opinionated judgmental arseholes that use these forums. Each to their own. Do what pleases you. Live and let live. Cest le vie. Don’t be a cunt
Yes, the forums would be a lot better if it was just an echo chamber. "The forums would be better if people we’re generally a bit nice to each other | |||
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"We have never had a problem with men in couples who are bi, they frequently don't mention it or run a separate bi couple profile anyway so we don't even know half the time. Our problems is with bi women in couples. We no longer meet them due to experience of extreme pushiness and insistence that I try ff with them. We are aware that not all bi women are like this but its happened too often for me to be willing to take the chance. I'll second that. Similar experience with bi females when I had a couples profile. Yep we have never had an instance of a bi guy trying his luck. I do wonder if that is part of some people's thinking? That the bi guy is going to be so overcome that he'll just grab the other guy. " Expanding on that thought. I think in general men are assumed to be more aggressive sexually than women which could be behind that. That hasn't been our experience in swinging. | |||
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"Regardless of gender, race or sexuality. There’s to many over opinionated judgmental arseholes that use these forums. Each to their own. Do what pleases you. Live and let live. Cest le vie. Don’t be a cunt
Yes, the forums would be a lot better if it was just an echo chamber.
The forums would be better if people we’re generally a bit nice to each other"I think it's more about respect than nice. It's perfectly possible to express opinions and debate issues without insulting or pulling people down. | |||
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"Regardless of gender, race or sexuality. There’s to many over opinionated judgmental arseholes that use these forums. Each to their own. Do what pleases you. Live and let live. Cest le vie. Don’t be a cunt
Yes, the forums would be a lot better if it was just an echo chamber.
The forums would be better if people we’re generally a bit nice to each other
I think it's more about respect than nice. It's perfectly possible to express opinions and debate issues without insulting or pulling people down. "This is it, some people get too hot headed and easily offended (in general, not aimed at the original topic) that things end up hostile. It is quite easy to disagree without flipping out. As soon as 1 person turns hostile it descends in to chaos. Most of the time because its not always easy to convey intent straight to text. | |||
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"Regardless of gender, race or sexuality. There’s to many over opinionated judgmental arseholes that use these forums. Each to their own. Do what pleases you. Live and let live. Cest le vie. Don’t be a cunt "best post so far | |||
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"There have been a number of threads recently on the subject of bisexual guys and people's problems with them lying or not wanting to meet them etc. I'm not looking to challenge anyone's preferences, I'm just asking the question; what's the issue with them? " What you said above I think. People have issues when people lie. | |||
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"We have a no bi guy policy, not because we have any prejudice but because my man is straight and not interested in MM fun and likewise I (Mrs) am not turned on by two men together. I know that some people choose not to play with bi men because men who have sex with men, gay or bi, are in the highest risk group for contacting HIV along with intravenous drug users. Possibly the people who prefer to play bare back are just limiting their possible exposure to HIV because they choose not to use protection. I have absolutely no problem with people’s preferences and I think that the forums and the site in general should have more of a ‘to each their own’ mentality. There have been several threads asking why people don’t meet bi men and more often than not the PC brigade shove the ‘why should sexuality matter’ argument down people’s throats. Simple answer is it matters to some and not to others. Why waste your energy moaning about the folk who won’t meet you and just concentrate on those you do appeal to. A lot of the time a simple preference is turned into an intolerance by some. On the subject of intravenous drug users, there are plenty of profiles who state ‘no drug users’ but I’ve yet to see a thread made to bemoan the fact that the person is not getting meets and blaming it on a prejudice. Sexuality is this generations weapon of choice" Thank you for your input. I would say that drug users aren't the subject of threads as the use of many drugs is still a criminal offence, unlike gay sex. I would also point out that swingers are part of the high risk group too. As you say; preference is a very personal and subjective thing and I entirely respect that, I certainly wouldn't claim intolerance in the vast majority of cases and I solely meet people who accept my sexuality. I do think though that there are a lot of half truths and rumours that follow male bisexuality around, understanding and discussing is the best way to dispel that. | |||
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"I have no issues with bi men.... I have met many a couple with bi husbands.... But to be honest, I think sometimes the bi husbands feel left out... so these relationships don’t last very long.... " That's possibly the case, although I'd say that that is down to the couples dynamic rather than the guys sexuality | |||
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"We have a no bi guy policy, not because we have any prejudice but because my man is straight and not interested in MM fun and likewise I (Mrs) am not turned on by two men together. I know that some people choose not to play with bi men because men who have sex with men, gay or bi, are in the highest risk group for contacting HIV along with intravenous drug users. Possibly the people who prefer to play bare back are just limiting their possible exposure to HIV because they choose not to use protection. I have absolutely no problem with people’s preferences and I think that the forums and the site in general should have more of a ‘to each their own’ mentality. There have been several threads asking why people don’t meet bi men and more often than not the PC brigade shove the ‘why should sexuality matter’ argument down people’s throats. Simple answer is it matters to some and not to others. Why waste your energy moaning about the folk who won’t meet you and just concentrate on those you do appeal to. A lot of the time a simple preference is turned into an intolerance by some. On the subject of intravenous drug users, there are plenty of profiles who state ‘no drug users’ but I’ve yet to see a thread made to bemoan the fact that the person is not getting meets and blaming it on a prejudice. Sexuality is this generations weapon of choice Thank you for your input. I would say that drug users aren't the subject of threads as the use of many drugs is still a criminal offence, unlike gay sex. I would also point out that swingers are part of the high risk group too. As you say; preference is a very personal and subjective thing and I entirely respect that, I certainly wouldn't claim intolerance in the vast majority of cases and I solely meet people who accept my sexuality. I do think though that there are a lot of half truths and rumours that follow male bisexuality around, understanding and discussing is the best way to dispel that. " I referenced drug users as a comparison only. Sorry if it came across as try to take your post off topic, that wasn’t the case at all. There are definitely a lot of half truths surrounding male bisexuality I agree. I work with both the groups mentioned in my original post and see it Day in day out. That’s why I never mentioned any of them. The only fact I added was that they are lumped into the high risk category. You are right swingers or anyone promiscuous are also at a higher risk of contracting the virus but many people believe because they are playing safe on every occasion that others do likewise. The stigma from the 80s is still very much live and kicking that it’s a ‘gay mans disease’. Lots of people need educated but it’ll never happen and that’s why I say it’s best not to get offended and move on to the next person. For what it’s worth OP many people could take a leaf out of your book in being happy with their sexuality, meeting people who are comfortable with it and not getting hung up on others preference/intolerance | |||
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"Definitely a weird problem with homophobia on here with a lot of ladies and couples. Very bizarre." How so? Would you like to expand your comments? I'm not challenging you, I'm interested to hear why you think this. | |||
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"There have been a number of threads recently on the subject of bisexual guys and people's problems with them lying or not wanting to meet them etc. I'm not looking to challenge anyone's preferences, I'm just asking the question; what's the issue with them? " I have no issue with meeting Bi guys. As a BiFem, that would make me a hypocrite. What does bother me, is those that hide it. Like anything I want my choices to be informed. If I see a straight profile, with obvious male sexual veris then I'd pass it by | |||
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"We have a no bi guy policy, not because we have any prejudice but because my man is straight and not interested in MM fun and likewise I (Mrs) am not turned on by two men together. I know that some people choose not to play with bi men because men who have sex with men, gay or bi, are in the highest risk group for contacting HIV along with intravenous drug users. Possibly the people who prefer to play bare back are just limiting their possible exposure to HIV because they choose not to use protection. I have absolutely no problem with people’s preferences and I think that the forums and the site in general should have more of a ‘to each their own’ mentality. There have been several threads asking why people don’t meet bi men and more often than not the PC brigade shove the ‘why should sexuality matter’ argument down people’s throats. Simple answer is it matters to some and not to others. Why waste your energy moaning about the folk who won’t meet you and just concentrate on those you do appeal to. A lot of the time a simple preference is turned into an intolerance by some. On the subject of intravenous drug users, there are plenty of profiles who state ‘no drug users’ but I’ve yet to see a thread made to bemoan the fact that the person is not getting meets and blaming it on a prejudice. Sexuality is this generations weapon of choice Thank you for your input. I would say that drug users aren't the subject of threads as the use of many drugs is still a criminal offence, unlike gay sex. I would also point out that swingers are part of the high risk group too. As you say; preference is a very personal and subjective thing and I entirely respect that, I certainly wouldn't claim intolerance in the vast majority of cases and I solely meet people who accept my sexuality. I do think though that there are a lot of half truths and rumours that follow male bisexuality around, understanding and discussing is the best way to dispel that. I referenced drug users as a comparison only. Sorry if it came across as try to take your post off topic, that wasn’t the case at all. There are definitely a lot of half truths surrounding male bisexuality I agree. I work with both the groups mentioned in my original post and see it Day in day out. That’s why I never mentioned any of them. The only fact I added was that they are lumped into the high risk category. You are right swingers or anyone promiscuous are also at a higher risk of contracting the virus but many people believe because they are playing safe on every occasion that others do likewise. The stigma from the 80s is still very much live and kicking that it’s a ‘gay mans disease’. Lots of people need educated but it’ll never happen and that’s why I say it’s best not to get offended and move on to the next person. For what it’s worth OP many people could take a leaf out of your book in being happy with their sexuality, meeting people who are comfortable with it and not getting hung up on others preference/intolerance" Thank you, although I will say that intolerance does bother me, as do the back handed comments and derision aimed at bi guys. I think a greater understanding and open discussion would help to change and challenge attitudes that often get ignored and some consider as acceptable, personally though I'd rather try and do that in a positive way. I'm proud of my sexuality and I think that the more people that act in a similar way the more attitudes will change. | |||
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"Definitely a weird problem with homophobia on here with a lot of ladies and couples. Very bizarre." I'm not homophobic but don't meet (openly cos some lie) bi guys. The problem is mine and probably all in my mind due to the fact that i found out my husband was gay 2 days after I have birth to his daughter. The thot of it made me feel physically sick that my "straight" partner had young guys in my bed when i was in hospital giving birth to her so it's just the thot of it that brings back the humiliation and hirt I felt. So as I say in my profile nothing against bi/gay people just my choice x | |||
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"Definitely a weird problem with homophobia on here with a lot of ladies and couples. Very bizarre. I'm not homophobic but don't meet (openly cos some lie) bi guys. The problem is mine and probably all in my mind due to the fact that i found out my husband was gay 2 days after I have birth to his daughter. The thot of it made me feel physically sick that my "straight" partner had young guys in my bed when i was in hospital giving birth to her so it's just the thot of it that brings back the humiliation and hirt I felt. So as I say in my profile nothing against bi/gay people just my choice x" That is one of very few reasons I'd accept as spot on, for not wanting to meet me, based on my sexuality alone. I'm really sorry you went through that. My heart goes out to you x | |||
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"Definitely a weird problem with homophobia on here with a lot of ladies and couples. Very bizarre. I'm not homophobic but don't meet (openly cos some lie) bi guys. The problem is mine and probably all in my mind due to the fact that i found out my husband was gay 2 days after I have birth to his daughter. The thot of it made me feel physically sick that my "straight" partner had young guys in my bed when i was in hospital giving birth to her so it's just the thot of it that brings back the humiliation and hirt I felt. So as I say in my profile nothing against bi/gay people just my choice x That is one of very few reasons I'd accept as spot on, for not wanting to meet me, based on my sexuality alone. I'm really sorry you went through that. My heart goes out to you x " Thanks. Was a long time ago and we are good friends now. Prob because he is a good father and I didnt want my kids growing up with a bitter twisted woman as a mother but as i say it's prob all in my mind but just the way i am.x | |||
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"Definitely a weird problem with homophobia on here with a lot of ladies and couples. Very bizarre. I'm not homophobic but don't meet (openly cos some lie) bi guys. The problem is mine and probably all in my mind due to the fact that i found out my husband was gay 2 days after I have birth to his daughter. The thot of it made me feel physically sick that my "straight" partner had young guys in my bed when i was in hospital giving birth to her so it's just the thot of it that brings back the humiliation and hirt I felt. So as I say in my profile nothing against bi/gay people just my choice x That is one of very few reasons I'd accept as spot on, for not wanting to meet me, based on my sexuality alone. I'm really sorry you went through that. My heart goes out to you x Thanks. Was a long time ago and we are good friends now. Prob because he is a good father and I didnt want my kids growing up with a bitter twisted woman as a mother but as i say it's prob all in my mind but just the way i am.x" I wish I had chosen someone a bit more like you. We still fight and the children are used as weapons. Much to my horror and sadness. I guess I deserve it, but they don't  | |||
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"Some go on about them being in a high risk group. To me, having numerous different partners is in itself considered high risk sexual activity. Personally? I couldnt give two frigs if someone is bi or straight. I fancy the person. Their sexuality doesnt even factor into it. " Sensible as always. X  | |||
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"Some go on about them being in a high risk group. To me, having numerous different partners is in itself considered high risk sexual activity. Personally? I couldnt give two frigs if someone is bi or straight. I fancy the person. Their sexuality doesnt even factor into it. " In one on one encounters it won't, as long as you're attracted to each other, it's then that external factors come into play. | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs" If the cap fits.. | |||
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"I’m a straight woman and will meet bi men. If I fancy him (and he me!), who else he fancies is of no concern to me." Good enough | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs" I appreciate that, I think that respect is the basis of what I'm talking about here, both giving and receiving (no pun intended!). As I've said ^^^ I think that a positive and open discussion about the subject is what's required, abuse only entrenches people and serves to confirm their bias. | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs If the cap fits.." Unnecessary... I do think that you're tilting at windmills over this. | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs I appreciate that, I think that respect is the basis of what I'm talking about here, both giving and receiving (no pun intended!). As I've said ^^^ I think that a positive and open discussion about the subject is what's required, abuse only entrenches people and serves to confirm their bias. " Completely agree! Mrs | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs If the cap fits.. Unnecessary... I do think that you're tilting at windmills over this. " Only responding in kind. I'm not hijacking thread, I'm bored of that subject now I've said my bit and thread is over. It served it's purpose and I can move on. So thanks for your opinion  | |||
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"I’m gonna say as it is with us and apologies if anyone gets offended. To us, a bi man is a gay man who plays straight from time to time. And we’re not interested in playing with those men. Not homophobic, just a preference. Each to their own and horses for courses and all that. Ed" Can I ask why you don't? I would also in a non confrontational way urge you to Google the Kinsey scale, it's an interesting read. | |||
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"Definitely a weird problem with homophobia on here with a lot of ladies and couples. Very bizarre. How so? Would you like to expand your comments? I'm not challenging you, I'm interested to hear why you think this. " A LOT of women on here seem to be adamantly against seeing men who meets with men, ergo bisexual/pansexual whatever. As suggested I think it's the idea that its to do with being unsafe or unclean, which in itself is ignorant and probably offensive. I also thimk it's the element of it not being very masculine, i've seen a lot of profiles on here talking about "I want a real man" and linking that with seeing other men. It's all very confusing. Like any place on the internet, there seem to be some issues with gender, sexual orientation and race on here. Which is strange because you'd assume the swinger lifestyle would be one that is very opem minded. | |||
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"To us, a bi man is a gay man who plays straight from time to time. And we’re not interested in playing with those men. Not homophobic, just a preference" Comments like this, for example. I have never seen so many uses for the phrases "I'm not ____, just preference". | |||
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"Definitely a weird problem with homophobia on here with a lot of ladies and couples. Very bizarre. How so? Would you like to expand your comments? I'm not challenging you, I'm interested to hear why you think this. A LOT of women on here seem to be adamantly against seeing men who meets with men, ergo bisexual/pansexual whatever. As suggested I think it's the idea that its to do with being unsafe or unclean, which in itself is ignorant and probably offensive. I also thimk it's the element of it not being very masculine, i've seen a lot of profiles on here talking about "I want a real man" and linking that with seeing other men. It's all very confusing. Like any place on the internet, there seem to be some issues with gender, sexual orientation and race on here. Which is strange because you'd assume the swinger lifestyle would be one that is very opem minded. " You'd think. | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs If the cap fits.. Unnecessary... I do think that you're tilting at windmills over this. Only responding in kind. I'm not hijacking thread, I'm bored of that subject now I've said my bit and thread is over. It served it's purpose and I can move on. So thanks for your opinion "If you're moving on then do so, please don't start throwing insults in other threads. Consider your piece said. | |||
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? " They aren't really comparable. | |||
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"To us, a bi man is a gay man who plays straight from time to time. And we’re not interested in playing with those men. Not homophobic, just a preference Comments like this, for example. I have never seen so many uses for the phrases "I'm not ____, just preference". " Just because people get offended, doesn’t automatically mean they’re right. Ed | |||
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? " I agree, that very much can be the case and very often is. I'm not hearing hoofbeats and shouting 'Zebra', I'm not so much asking why people won't meet bi guys so much as what the stigmas associated are | |||
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? " *attractive not not attractive sorry | |||
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"I’m gonna say as it is with us and apologies if anyone gets offended. To us, a bi man is a gay man who plays straight from time to time. And we’re not interested in playing with those men. Not homophobic, just a preference. Each to their own and horses for courses and all that. Ed"  | |||
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? They aren't really comparable." They really are when you're discussing play meets | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs If the cap fits.. Unnecessary... I do think that you're tilting at windmills over this. Only responding in kind. I'm not hijacking thread, I'm bored of that subject now I've said my bit and thread is over. It served it's purpose and I can move on. So thanks for your opinion
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? They aren't really comparable." It's all the same ... it's about what people find sexual attractive surely? If someone is into water sports then people don't meet them or if a person is bi then again people don't meet them? Where is the difference? | |||
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? They aren't really comparable. It's all the same ... it's about what people find sexual attractive surely? If someone is into water sports then people don't meet them or if a person is bi then again people don't meet them? Where is the difference? " Nobody is adamantly against someone who has done anal or water sports. I'd assume most people here have tried anal or does it every so often. I have seen hundreds of female profiles here i've never seen a woman or couples write "No people who engage in anal sex with other people". The same should be of bisexual people. Why in god's name does what someone does with others (as long as it doesn't hurt people) matter? | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs If the cap fits.. Unnecessary... I do think that you're tilting at windmills over this. Only responding in kind. I'm not hijacking thread, I'm bored of that subject now I've said my bit and thread is over. It served it's purpose and I can move on. So thanks for your opinion
If you're moving on then do so, please don't start throwing insults in other threads.
Consider your piece said.
I don't see you telling the person off who brought that subject up in this thread making the sly dig in my direction.
So don't tell me what to do, if you're not going to be impartial about it."I'm not telling you what to do. I'm simply inviting you to consider the matter closed, as you said it was. I'm not arguing with you. | |||
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"There have been a number of threads recently on the subject of bisexual guys and people's problems with them lying or not wanting to meet them etc. I'm not looking to challenge anyone's preferences, I'm just asking the question; what's the issue with them? " I'm here to make love not war so I welcome anybody but I prefer just to socialise with girl's like me x | |||
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"Some go on about them being in a high risk group. To me, having numerous different partners is in itself considered high risk sexual activity. Personally? I couldnt give two frigs if someone is bi or straight. I fancy the person. Their sexuality doesnt even factor into it. Sensible as always. X "Supposedly the increased risk is due to anal being riskier due to tears ect Surely in 2019 people don't think only mm practise anal sex Even among my non swinger female friends I can't think of any that haven't at least tried the poop chute | |||
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? They aren't really comparable. It's all the same ... it's about what people find sexual attractive surely? If someone is into water sports then people don't meet them or if a person is bi then again people don't meet them? Where is the difference? Nobody is adamantly against someone who has done anal or water sports. I'd assume most people here have tried anal or does it every so often. I have seen hundreds of female profiles here i've never seen a woman or couples write "No people who engage in anal sex with other people". The same should be of bisexual people. Why in god's name does what someone does with others (as long as it doesn't hurt people) matter?" I won't meet people from here with tastes that don't match my own, sorry but that's me. I'm not judging them in any way it's just that I'm here for what I want (probably could be accused of being selfish at this point). Such as I wouldn't meet anyone who describes themselves as dom whether they say it's not necessary or not. Does that make me domaphobic or domist? To me it's just I don't find it attractive | |||
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I could still find someone who enjoyed Water sports attractive without engaging in that activity with them.
How hard is it for you people, who hold that view, to accept your a tad homophobic?
Nobody's jumping down this OPs throat. He's not called you Homophobic. I do and you all go fucking mental at me. It's a preference! How dare you accuse me of being a smidge homophobic.
Funny thing, is I empathise with your view and hold no ill feeling towards any of you for feeling that way. I get it.
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I could still find someone who enjoyed Water sports attractive without engaging in that activity with them.
How hard is it for you people, who hold that view, to accept your a tad homophobic?
Nobody's jumping down this OPs throat. He's not called you Homophobic. I do and you all go fucking mental at me. It's a preference! How dare you accuse me of being a smidge homophobic.
Funny thing, is I empathise with your view and hold no ill feeling towards any of you for feeling that way. I get it.
It's not a preference though, well it is, but its based on homophobic thoughts."Please don't judge me, I have never said I won't meet a person because they are bi ... I'm just adding to a debate without any form of malice. If someone doesn't find anything attractive then they are quite within their rights not to meet within their own criteria ... we're here to meet for fun within our own personal boundaries that rely on what we find sexy and fun. | |||
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I could still find someone who enjoyed Water sports attractive without engaging in that activity with them.
How hard is it for you people, who hold that view, to accept your a tad homophobic?
Nobody's jumping down this OPs throat. He's not called you Homophobic. I do and you all go fucking mental at me. It's a preference! How dare you accuse me of being a smidge homophobic.
Funny thing, is I empathise with your view and hold no ill feeling towards any of you for feeling that way. I get it.
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? They aren't really comparable. They really are when you're discussing play meets I wouldn't say it's comparable either. I'm not asking you to watch me do anything gay, not insisting on it, I'd rather not bring it up at all if I'm honest.. Because someone FINALLY gave the majority reason I suspect many of you won't meet bisexual men. Because the very thought it puts you off us
I could still find someone who enjoyed Water sports attractive without engaging in that activity with them.
How hard is it for you people, who hold that view, to accept your a tad homophobic?
Nobody's jumping down this OPs throat. He's not called you Homophobic. I do and you all go fucking mental at me. It's a preference! How dare you accuse me of being a smidge homophobic.
Funny thing, is I empathise with your view and hold no ill feeling towards any of you for feeling that way. I get it.
It's not a preference though, well it is, but its based on homophobic thoughts.
Please don't judge me, I have never said I won't meet a person because they are bi ... I'm just adding to a debate without any form of malice.
If someone doesn't find anything attractive then they are quite within their rights not to meet within their own criteria ... we're here to meet for fun within our own personal boundaries that rely on what we find sexy and fun.
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? They aren't really comparable. They really are when you're discussing play meets Okay so you have a gorgeous girl, lovely personality etc who likes anal, she engages in anal regularly with other men. She won't with you obviously because you don't enjoy anal. She wants you though. You refuse to meet her? I see the context more as, if you don't want bi play then you don't invite two bi guys. Also the case may be that people can't dissociate the act from the person, they dont get turned on by a person who engaged in it. I'm purely playing devil's advocate on this point. So you would or you wouldn't have sex with the girl who indulges in anal?" I think I'm the wrong person to ask that question to! I've answered as I think others may see it, not from personal experience | |||
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? They aren't really comparable. They really are when you're discussing play meets I wouldn't say it's comparable either. I'm not asking you to watch me do anything gay, not insisting on it, I'd rather not bring it up at all if I'm honest.. Because someone FINALLY gave the majority reason I suspect many of you won't meet bisexual men. Because the very thought it puts you off us
I could still find someone who enjoyed Water sports attractive without engaging in that activity with them.
How hard is it for you people, who hold that view, to accept your a tad homophobic?
Nobody's jumping down this OPs throat. He's not called you Homophobic. I do and you all go fucking mental at me. It's a preference! How dare you accuse me of being a smidge homophobic.
Funny thing, is I empathise with your view and hold no ill feeling towards any of you for feeling that way. I get it.
It's not a preference though, well it is, but its based on homophobic thoughts.
Please don't judge me, I have never said I won't meet a person because they are bi ... I'm just adding to a debate without any form of malice.
If someone doesn't find anything attractive then they are quite within their rights not to meet within their own criteria ... we're here to meet for fun within our own personal boundaries that rely on what we find sexy and fun.
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"We have never had a problem with men in couples who are bi, they frequently don't mention it or run a separate bi couple profile anyway so we don't even know half the time. Our problems is with bi women in couples. We no longer meet them due to experience of extreme pushiness and insistence that I try ff with them. We are aware that not all bi women are like this but its happened too often for me to be willing to take the chance." Exactly what we have experienced pushy ladies and we tend to stay away from bi guys as some have been to close with hand contact male to male some people just do not understand straight ? | |||
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? They aren't really comparable. They really are when you're discussing play meets I wouldn't say it's comparable either. I'm not asking you to watch me do anything gay, not insisting on it, I'd rather not bring it up at all if I'm honest.. Because someone FINALLY gave the majority reason I suspect many of you won't meet bisexual men. Because the very thought it puts you off us
I could still find someone who enjoyed Water sports attractive without engaging in that activity with them.
How hard is it for you people, who hold that view, to accept your a tad homophobic?
Nobody's jumping down this OPs throat. He's not called you Homophobic. I do and you all go fucking mental at me. It's a preference! How dare you accuse me of being a smidge homophobic.
Funny thing, is I empathise with your view and hold no ill feeling towards any of you for feeling that way. I get it.
It's not a preference though, well it is, but its based on homophobic thoughts.
Please don't judge me, I have never said I won't meet a person because they are bi ... I'm just adding to a debate without any form of malice.
If someone doesn't find anything attractive then they are quite within their rights not to meet within their own criteria ... we're here to meet for fun within our own personal boundaries that rely on what we find sexy and fun.
I appreciate your honesty, as I've reiterated, your preferences are just that, I'm interested to hear why people don't or won't and you've answered that
Thank you "And that is the answer you should have received rather than being accused of being homophobic. And people wonder why people won’t answers these questions! I have lots of preferences but I refuse to give reasons for them. I’ve been watching this thread waiting for someone to give a reason and then waiting for that person to be accused of being homophobic. Didn’t take long | |||
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"I’m gonna say as it is with us and apologies if anyone gets offended. To us, a bi man is a gay man who plays straight from time to time. And we’re not interested in playing with those men. Not homophobic, just a preference. Each to their own and horses for courses and all that. Ed With respect, utter crap. I’m a bi man. 98% of the time it’s myself and kitten. Occasionally we invite a man or a couple to play with us. Using your logic, I’m gay? In my opinion, yes. Ed So, by the same logic, Mrs is a lesbian who plays straight from time to time? I think this is a fair question Genius. His mrs is bi playful, ergo gay. " I can’t believe you’re so hung up on my opinion lol. Population of over 70 million, I’m flattered. I’m not gonna bother with the baiting any longer. Ed | |||
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? They aren't really comparable. It's all the same ... it's about what people find sexual attractive surely? If someone is into water sports then people don't meet them or if a person is bi then again people don't meet them? Where is the difference? " Even if they're not going to do it with them? They'd be rejected because they did anal and waters sports with previous meets? Not having a go, just trying to understand fully. | |||
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"Definitely a weird problem with homophobia on here with a lot of ladies and couples. Very bizarre." Homophobia is a very strong word and opens up a whole new thread. Depending on which dictionary you use it jumps from distrust to down right hatred. Like the OP suggests there are lots of forums threads on this, all asking the same questions and all getting the same mix of views it is all down to choice and preference, nothing more. | |||
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? They aren't really comparable. They really are when you're discussing play meets I wouldn't say it's comparable either. I'm not asking you to watch me do anything gay, not insisting on it, I'd rather not bring it up at all if I'm honest.. Because someone FINALLY gave the majority reason I suspect many of you won't meet bisexual men. Because the very thought it puts you off us
I could still find someone who enjoyed Water sports attractive without engaging in that activity with them.
How hard is it for you people, who hold that view, to accept your a tad homophobic?
Nobody's jumping down this OPs throat. He's not called you Homophobic. I do and you all go fucking mental at me. It's a preference! How dare you accuse me of being a smidge homophobic.
Funny thing, is I empathise with your view and hold no ill feeling towards any of you for feeling that way. I get it.
It's not a preference though, well it is, but its based on homophobic thoughts.
Please don't judge me, I have never said I won't meet a person because they are bi ... I'm just adding to a debate without any form of malice.
If someone doesn't find anything attractive then they are quite within their rights not to meet within their own criteria ... we're here to meet for fun within our own personal boundaries that rely on what we find sexy and fun.
I appreciate your honesty, as I've reiterated, your preferences are just that, I'm interested to hear why people don't or won't and you've answered that
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And that is the answer you should have received rather than being accused of being homophobic. And people wonder why people won’t answers these questions! I have lots of preferences but I refuse to give reasons for them. I’ve been watching this thread waiting for someone to give a reason and then waiting for that person to be accused of being homophobic. Didn’t take long "I can't legislate or control people's input, however I intended this thread as an open and free discussion as opposed to accusatory. Personally I'd be interested to hear your input | |||
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"I’m gonna say as it is with us and apologies if anyone gets offended. To us, a bi man is a gay man who plays straight from time to time. And we’re not interested in playing with those men. Not homophobic, just a preference. Each to their own and horses for courses and all that. Ed With respect, utter crap. I’m a bi man. 98% of the time it’s myself and kitten. Occasionally we invite a man or a couple to play with us. Using your logic, I’m gay? In my opinion, yes. Ed So, by the same logic, Mrs is a lesbian who plays straight from time to time? I think this is a fair question Genius. His mrs is bi playful, ergo gay. I can’t believe you’re so hung up on my opinion lol. Population of over 70 million, I’m flattered. I’m not gonna bother with the baiting any longer. Ed" I don't think it's baiting, I do think it's a valid question. I'm interested to hear your reply in the spirit of discussion | |||
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I could still find someone who enjoyed Water sports attractive without engaging in that activity with them.
How hard is it for you people, who hold that view, to accept your a tad homophobic?
Nobody's jumping down this OPs throat. He's not called you Homophobic. I do and you all go fucking mental at me. It's a preference! How dare you accuse me of being a smidge homophobic.
Funny thing, is I empathise with your view and hold no ill feeling towards any of you for feeling that way. I get it.
It's not a preference though, well it is, but its based on homophobic thoughts.
Please don't judge me, I have never said I won't meet a person because they are bi ... I'm just adding to a debate without any form of malice.
If someone doesn't find anything attractive then they are quite within their rights not to meet within their own criteria ... we're here to meet for fun within our own personal boundaries that rely on what we find sexy and fun.
I appreciate your honesty, as I've reiterated, your preferences are just that, I'm interested to hear why people don't or won't and you've answered that
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And that is the answer you should have received rather than being accused of being homophobic. And people wonder why people won’t answers these questions! I have lots of preferences but I refuse to give reasons for them. I’ve been watching this thread waiting for someone to give a reason and then waiting for that person to be accused of being homophobic. Didn’t take long
I can't legislate or control people's input, however I intended this thread as an open and free discussion as opposed to accusatory. Personally I'd be interested to hear your input"I know you can’t and your threads are always interesting. I like you you’re a nice guy and quite level headed I think. I don’t have any input lovely, sorry x | |||
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"Could it just be as simple as not everyone finds the thought of two people of the same gender together not attractive ... much the same as not everyone finds water sports or anal not attractive rather than homophobic? They aren't really comparable. It's all the same ... it's about what people find sexual attractive surely? If someone is into water sports then people don't meet them or if a person is bi then again people don't meet them? Where is the difference? Even if they're not going to do it with them? They'd be rejected because they did anal and waters sports with previous meets? Not having a go, just trying to understand fully. " I don't meet people who list anal as an interest that is backed up by pictures and/or veris because that isn't my thing not because I'm judging them but because I would rather meet people that anal isn't an obvious 'thing'. There are plenty to chose from without having to actually meet everyone on here. Now in life outside of fab that person and I could have ended up best friends as I have nothing against them personally but I just wouldn't meet them for fun as our sexual preferences are different. | |||
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"I’m gonna say as it is with us and apologies if anyone gets offended. To us, a bi man is a gay man who plays straight from time to time. And we’re not interested in playing with those men. Not homophobic, just a preference. Each to their own and horses for courses and all that. Ed With respect, utter crap. I’m a bi man. 98% of the time it’s myself and kitten. Occasionally we invite a man or a couple to play with us. Using your logic, I’m gay? In my opinion, yes. Ed So, by the same logic, Mrs is a lesbian who plays straight from time to time? I think this is a fair question Genius. His mrs is bi playful, ergo gay. I can’t believe you’re so hung up on my opinion lol. Population of over 70 million, I’m flattered. I’m not gonna bother with the baiting any longer. Ed I don't think it's baiting, I do think it's a valid question. I'm interested to hear your reply in the spirit of discussion " Excellent now it is down to Percentages..So come on then should we now start on the majorities or the minorities..You choose, remember this is all about choice and preference Or should we think lets not label (The Straights, the Gays, the Bi's, the Lezzies, the Confused, Blacks, white or Asians and just have fun.. | |||
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"Why are people offended at being called homophobic (for not wanting to fuck bi men) anyway? Name calling doesn't make me change my mind about not wanting to fuck someone. It's more likely to put me off them even more. That is kind of my thought process too. I think the moment that you get personal or accuse people of things is the moment that the discussion is over. I'm trying to find understanding here, not an argument. It is interesting to drill down deeper than the preference answer. " That's what I'm interested in | |||
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"Why are people offended at being called homophobic (for not wanting to fuck bi men) anyway? Name calling doesn't make me change my mind about not wanting to fuck someone. It's more likely to put me off them even more. That is kind of my thought process too. I think the moment that you get personal or accuse people of things is the moment that the discussion is over. I'm trying to find understanding here, not an argument. I'm not here to win the argument. Just saying it as I see it. I'm also not fussed if people are upset by it. I've not made personal attacks though. I've singled nobody out. It's clearly not ended the argument either. I've got no personal grudge against anyone in all this. Though I do appreciate I've lost a load of potential friends for throwing the homophobia word around so casually, i'm not bothered by it. Some choose to continue. Whilst others retreat to the saftey of the fence. I keep meaning to fuck off myself, then someone intelligent goes and says something stupid and I can't help myself "There is no argument to win, the only one arguing is you. I'm discussing and inviting answers. | |||
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"We have never had a problem with men in couples who are bi, they frequently don't mention it or run a separate bi couple profile anyway so we don't even know half the time. Our problems is with bi women in couples. We no longer meet them due to experience of extreme pushiness and insistence that I try ff with them. We are aware that not all bi women are like this but its happened too often for me to be willing to take the chance." This is very true in clubs.bi women are extremely pushy to other women, bi men quite the opposite. Women grabbing and groping unwanted is let go far too often, men are normally dealt with and banned on first offence. | |||
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"Why are people offended at being called homophobic (for not wanting to fuck bi men) anyway? Name calling doesn't make me change my mind about not wanting to fuck someone. It's more likely to put me off them even more. That is kind of my thought process too. I think the moment that you get personal or accuse people of things is the moment that the discussion is over. I'm trying to find understanding here, not an argument. I'm not here to win the argument. Just saying it as I see it. I'm also not fussed if people are upset by it. I've not made personal attacks though. I've singled nobody out. It's clearly not ended the argument either. I've got no personal grudge against anyone in all this. Though I do appreciate I've lost a load of potential friends for throwing the homophobia word around so casually, i'm not bothered by it. Some choose to continue. Whilst others retreat to the saftey of the fence. I keep meaning to fuck off myself, then someone intelligent goes and says something stupid and I can't help myself
There is no argument to win, the only one arguing is you.
I'm discussing and inviting answers. "When does a debate become an argument? What's the difference? I've thrown no insults. Not got personal, I don't think anyone else has towards me either. This is heated debate. I've asked lots of questions and listened to most answers. Got a bit mixed up with Professors posts a few times, but hey.. nobody's perfect. What's the difference? You're being nice. I'm being me. | |||
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"Why are people offended at being called homophobic (for not wanting to fuck bi men) anyway? Name calling doesn't make me change my mind about not wanting to fuck someone. It's more likely to put me off them even more. That is kind of my thought process too. I think the moment that you get personal or accuse people of things is the moment that the discussion is over. I'm trying to find understanding here, not an argument. It is interesting to drill down deeper than the preference answer. It's interesting to understand the reasons behind people's preferences for sure, what doesn't help though is those that bandy words like "homophobic" round because people express those preferences - which then sees threads like this head into the same circular arguments every time." Which is why I felt the need to start my own thread before. I'm aware this comes round again and again. I want to put it to bed and be done with it I am.. this is just the aftershocks for me.
I dont want to be the person who constantly brings this up. Yesterday, today I've been prolific. Next week I'll have a bee in my bonnet about why there's no Gino Ginelli mint choc chip ice cream anymore... whilst this debate rages on with a different cast of characters. So I accept the flak I've got for dropping the H Bomb. I still think I'm correct at the end of the day. | |||
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"Why are people offended at being called homophobic (for not wanting to fuck bi men) anyway? Name calling doesn't make me change my mind about not wanting to fuck someone. It's more likely to put me off them even more. That is kind of my thought process too. I think the moment that you get personal or accuse people of things is the moment that the discussion is over. I'm trying to find understanding here, not an argument. I'm not here to win the argument. Just saying it as I see it. I'm also not fussed if people are upset by it. I've not made personal attacks though. I've singled nobody out. It's clearly not ended the argument either. I've got no personal grudge against anyone in all this. Though I do appreciate I've lost a load of potential friends for throwing the homophobia word around so casually, i'm not bothered by it. Some choose to continue. Whilst others retreat to the saftey of the fence. I keep meaning to fuck off myself, then someone intelligent goes and says something stupid and I can't help myself
There is no argument to win, the only one arguing is you.
I'm discussing and inviting answers.
When does a debate become an argument? What's the difference? I've thrown no insults. Not got personal, I don't think anyone else has towards me either. This is heated debate. I've asked lots of questions and listened to most answers. Got a bit mixed up with Professors posts a few times, but hey.. nobody's perfect.
What's the difference? You're being nice. I'm being me."If you can't tell the difference between a debate or an argument then don't think I want to be involved in either with you The moment you accuse people of something that they're not is the moment they stop listening or explaining. I'm not being 'nice' I'm listening and understanding, that's who I am, that's why I started this thread; I want to understand. | |||
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"Why are people offended at being called homophobic (for not wanting to fuck bi men) anyway? Name calling doesn't make me change my mind about not wanting to fuck someone. It's more likely to put me off them even more. That is kind of my thought process too. I think the moment that you get personal or accuse people of things is the moment that the discussion is over. I'm trying to find understanding here, not an argument. I'm not here to win the argument. Just saying it as I see it. I'm also not fussed if people are upset by it. I've not made personal attacks though. I've singled nobody out. It's clearly not ended the argument either. I've got no personal grudge against anyone in all this. Though I do appreciate I've lost a load of potential friends for throwing the homophobia word around so casually, i'm not bothered by it. Some choose to continue. Whilst others retreat to the saftey of the fence. I keep meaning to fuck off myself, then someone intelligent goes and says something stupid and I can't help myself
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"Why are people offended at being called homophobic (for not wanting to fuck bi men) anyway? Name calling doesn't make me change my mind about not wanting to fuck someone. It's more likely to put me off them even more. That is kind of my thought process too. I think the moment that you get personal or accuse people of things is the moment that the discussion is over. I'm trying to find understanding here, not an argument. I'm not here to win the argument. Just saying it as I see it. I'm also not fussed if people are upset by it. I've not made personal attacks though. I've singled nobody out. It's clearly not ended the argument either. I've got no personal grudge against anyone in all this. Though I do appreciate I've lost a load of potential friends for throwing the homophobia word around so casually, i'm not bothered by it. Some choose to continue. Whilst others retreat to the saftey of the fence. I keep meaning to fuck off myself, then someone intelligent goes and says something stupid and I can't help myself
There is no argument to win, the only one arguing is you.
I'm discussing and inviting answers.
When does a debate become an argument? What's the difference? I've thrown no insults. Not got personal, I don't think anyone else has towards me either. This is heated debate. I've asked lots of questions and listened to most answers. Got a bit mixed up with Professors posts a few times, but hey.. nobody's perfect.
What's the difference? You're being nice. I'm being me.
If you can't tell the difference between a debate or an argument then don't think I want to be involved in either with you
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"We have never had a problem with men in couples who are bi, they frequently don't mention it or run a separate bi couple profile anyway so we don't even know half the time. Our problems is with bi women in couples. We no longer meet them due to experience of extreme pushiness and insistence that I try ff with them. We are aware that not all bi women are like this but its happened too often for me to be willing to take the chance. Exactly what we have experienced pushy ladies and we tend to stay away from bi guys as some have been to close with hand contact male to male some people just do not understand straight ?" So this, close hand contact, doesn't happen at all when playing with straight men?! Of course it does,it only bothers when it's a bi man. Only bi people are ok with trying to force themselves on others that aren't into them? Just wondering? As I said in my previous statement, we can all be twats, it has fuck all to do with sexuality. And who is to say, even if a bi guy touched a cock in a mmf 3 way, to put it in her mouth/muff, in a non personal play way, that it was meant as a sexual advance, or even that the bi guy fancied who the cock belonged to? I think alot is read into things by too many people. | |||
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"We have never had a problem with men in couples who are bi, they frequently don't mention it or run a separate bi couple profile anyway so we don't even know half the time. Our problems is with bi women in couples. We no longer meet them due to experience of extreme pushiness and insistence that I try ff with them. We are aware that not all bi women are like this but its happened too often for me to be willing to take the chance. Exactly what we have experienced pushy ladies and we tend to stay away from bi guys as some have been to close with hand contact male to male some people just do not understand straight ? So this, close hand contact, doesn't happen at all when playing with straight men?! Of course it does,it only bothers when it's a bi man. Only bi people are ok with trying to force themselves on others that aren't into them? Just wondering? As I said in my previous statement, we can all be twats, it has fuck all to do with sexuality. And who is to say, even if a bi guy touched a cock in a mmf 3 way, to put it in her mouth/muff, in a non personal play way, that it was meant as a sexual advance, or even that the bi guy fancied who the cock belonged to? I think alot is read into things by too many people. When I was straight.. I wouldn't have been happy with any man touching me for whatever reason. So on that point.. no way.. gross misconduct.. akin to sexual assault.. although very mild in comparison to things we normally associate assault as. It's very wrong to jump on someone else's bits. Especially if you've had the discussion that you really don't want it to happen beforehand." Attempts to breach these boundaries during sex should be met with immediate rejection in my opinion as they can no longer be trusted to stick to the rules when you're at you're most vulnerable. See I do understand and empathise with the the homophobic views. I don't like being lumped into the high risk, I'm going to jump on your bits group of people... I'm not a wrong un, just bisexual. | |||
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"We have never had a problem with men in couples who are bi, they frequently don't mention it or run a separate bi couple profile anyway so we don't even know half the time. Our problems is with bi women in couples. We no longer meet them due to experience of extreme pushiness and insistence that I try ff with them. We are aware that not all bi women are like this but its happened too often for me to be willing to take the chance. Exactly what we have experienced pushy ladies and we tend to stay away from bi guys as some have been to close with hand contact male to male some people just do not understand straight ? So this, close hand contact, doesn't happen at all when playing with straight men?! Of course it does,it only bothers when it's a bi man. Only bi people are ok with trying to force themselves on others that aren't into them? Just wondering? As I said in my previous statement, we can all be twats, it has fuck all to do with sexuality. And who is to say, even if a bi guy touched a cock in a mmf 3 way, to put it in her mouth/muff, in a non personal play way, that it was meant as a sexual advance, or even that the bi guy fancied who the cock belonged to? I think alot is read into things by too many people. When I was straight.. I wouldn't have been happy with any man touching me for whatever reason. So on that point.. no way.. gross misconduct.. akin to sexual assault.. although very mild in comparison to things we normally associate assault as. It's very wrong to jump on someone else's bits. Especially if you've had the discussion that you really don't want it to happen beforehand. Attempts to breach these boundaries during sex should be met with immediate rejection in my opinion as they can no longer be trusted to stick to the rules when you're at you're most vulnerable. See I do understand and empathise with the the homophobic views. I don't like being lumped into the high risk, I'm going to jump on your bits group of people... I'm not a wrong un, just bisexual." Haven't you had this 'discussion' three times in the last few days. Pretty sure this post wasn't meant to be yet another one. | |||
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"Regardless of gender, race or sexuality. There’s to many over opinionated judgmental arseholes that use these forums. Each to their own. Do what pleases you. Live and let live. Cest le vie. Don’t be a cunt
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The forums would be better if people we’re generally a bit nice to each other"Like not calling them over opinionated judgmental arseholes ? | |||
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"When we first started we wanted single men, it didn't matter if they were bi or not. Then we had a meet where the man made both of us really uncomfortable, so much so that we ended the meet. We didn't ( knowingly ) meet bi men after that I understand your reasoning, it's unfortunate that experiences like that happen. It's safe to say that you're not alone, not just regarding bi guys" I second that. It should never happen to anyone. I know how that would scar someone and would feel the same way myself. | |||
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"When we first started we wanted single men, it didn't matter if they were bi or not. Then we had a meet where the man made both of us really uncomfortable, so much so that we ended the meet. We didn't ( knowingly ) meet bi men after that I understand your reasoning, it's unfortunate that experiences like that happen. It's safe to say that you're not alone, not just regarding bi guys" I don't know about anyone else as we only ever met men for MFM | |||
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"Some go on about them being in a high risk group. To me, having numerous different partners is in itself considered high risk sexual activity. Personally? I couldnt give two frigs if someone is bi or straight. I fancy the person. Their sexuality doesnt even factor into it. " This is me but on the whole Ivreally fancy a hell of a lot more women than I do men or TVTS’s but I find it funny that I could be considered a gay guy who just plays straight. | |||
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"When we first started we wanted single men, it didn't matter if they were bi or not. Then we had a meet where the man made both of us really uncomfortable, so much so that we ended the meet. We didn't ( knowingly ) meet bi men after that " Sad but I can understand how that would effect you | |||
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"Some go on about them being in a high risk group. To me, having numerous different partners is in itself considered high risk sexual activity. Personally? I couldnt give two frigs if someone is bi or straight. I fancy the person. Their sexuality doesnt even factor into it. This is me but on the whole Ivreally fancy a hell of a lot more women than I do men or TVTS’s but I find it funny that I could be considered a gay guy who just plays straight. "Same. | |||
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"When we first started we wanted single men, it didn't matter if they were bi or not. Then we had a meet where the man made both of us really uncomfortable, so much so that we ended the meet. We didn't ( knowingly ) meet bi men after that Sad but I can understand how that would effect you" It didn't affect us in any way, it was uncomfortable at the time but it was annoying that it was a wasted meet especially as all boundaries were set. We are aware not all bi men would do the same but we didn't want to waste a meet by taking a chance with another bi man as we didn't have time to meet that often | |||
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"When we first started we wanted single men, it didn't matter if they were bi or not. Then we had a meet where the man made both of us really uncomfortable, so much so that we ended the meet. We didn't ( knowingly ) meet bi men after that Sad but I can understand how that would effect you It didn't affect us in any way, it was uncomfortable at the time but it was annoying that it was a wasted meet especially as all boundaries were set. We are aware not all bi men would do the same but we didn't want to waste a meet by taking a chance with another bi man as we didn't have time to meet that often" Perfectly understandable | |||
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"When we first started we wanted single men, it didn't matter if they were bi or not. Then we had a meet where the man made both of us really uncomfortable, so much so that we ended the meet. We didn't ( knowingly ) meet bi men after that Sad but I can understand how that would effect you It didn't affect us in any way, it was uncomfortable at the time but it was annoying that it was a wasted meet especially as all boundaries were set. We are aware not all bi men would do the same but we didn't want to waste a meet by taking a chance with another bi man as we didn't have time to meet that often" Still.. it's experience based and has put you off. Understandable. | |||
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"Definitely a weird problem with homophobia on here with a lot of ladies and couples. Very bizarre. I'm not homophobic but don't meet (openly cos some lie) bi guys. The problem is mine and probably all in my mind due to the fact that i found out my husband was gay 2 days after I have birth to his daughter. The thot of it made me feel physically sick that my "straight" partner had young guys in my bed when i was in hospital giving birth to her so it's just the thot of it that brings back the humiliation and hirt I felt. So as I say in my profile nothing against bi/gay people just my choice x That is one of very few reasons I'd accept as spot on, for not wanting to meet me, based on my sexuality alone. I'm really sorry you went through that. My heart goes out to you x Thanks. Was a long time ago and we are good friends now. Prob because he is a good father and I didnt want my kids growing up with a bitter twisted woman as a mother but as i say it's prob all in my mind but just the way i am.x I wish I had chosen someone a bit more like you. We still fight and the children are used as weapons. Much to my horror and sadness. I guess I deserve it, but they don't "My kids have a really close relaitionship with their dad and my grandkids know their grandad has a boyfriend. His partner is treated as part of the family, I even bit him bday/ Xmas pressies and he walks my dogs if I'm away for a weekend. Some folk find it a strange set up but my kids are happy. My hairdressers partner has the same problems as u and it's sad cos they are both lovely guys. As u say it's the kids that suffer x | |||
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"Definitely a weird problem with homophobia on here with a lot of ladies and couples. Very bizarre. I'm not homophobic but don't meet (openly cos some lie) bi guys. The problem is mine and probably all in my mind due to the fact that i found out my husband was gay 2 days after I have birth to his daughter. The thot of it made me feel physically sick that my "straight" partner had young guys in my bed when i was in hospital giving birth to her so it's just the thot of it that brings back the humiliation and hirt I felt. So as I say in my profile nothing against bi/gay people just my choice x That is one of very few reasons I'd accept as spot on, for not wanting to meet me, based on my sexuality alone. I'm really sorry you went through that. My heart goes out to you x Thanks. Was a long time ago and we are good friends now. Prob because he is a good father and I didnt want my kids growing up with a bitter twisted woman as a mother but as i say it's prob all in my mind but just the way i am.x I wish I had chosen someone a bit more like you. We still fight and the children are used as weapons. Much to my horror and sadness. I guess I deserve it, but they don't
My kids have a really close relaitionship with their dad and my grandkids know their grandad has a boyfriend. His partner is treated as part of the family, I even bit him bday/ Xmas pressies and he walks my dogs if I'm away for a weekend. Some folk find it a strange set up but my kids are happy. My hairdressers partner has the same problems as u and it's sad cos they are both lovely guys. As u say it's the kids that suffer x "Yup, happened again today unfortunately, probably explains my willingness to be sucked into something I'd normally avoid talking about. I'm glad things have turned out well for you, for your children, your ex and the rest of the family. Paints hope. | |||
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"Some people don't like the thought of cocks going in bumholes. " Unless it's a woman's.... 
Just read the whole thread as just finished an 18 hour day.
Little that's not been said many times before......with the exception of the 'all bi men are really gay' comment. Noted there was no response to the 'so are all bi women lesbians?' question.
Pretty much sums up the unequal perceptions many have of bi men Vs bi women.
And that's my view as a thrice married guy who's probably sucked a dozen dicks in his life, never kissed a guy, never fucked or been fucked by a guy or would ever feel any romantic attraction/affection to another guy.
But I've done all of the above with many, many women.
But hey. Apparently I'm gay now.
Zero. Fucks. Given.
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"There have been a number of threads recently on the subject of bisexual guys and people's problems with them lying or not wanting to meet them etc. I'm not looking to challenge anyone's preferences, I'm just asking the question; what's the issue with them? " they carry the plague apparently | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs If the cap fits.." If the cap fits what? Doesn't work in this context so as you are continually sniping at her posts when there is nothing to snipe at I guess you are being racist, all offended by non bi lovers but being unpleasant because of somebodies skin colour, should be ashamed of yourself. | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs If the cap fits.. If the cap fits what? Doesn't work in this context so as you are continually sniping at her posts when there is nothing to snipe at I guess you are being racist, all offended by non bi lovers but being unpleasant because of somebodies skin colour, should be ashamed of yourself. " I'm not getting into this against my bit, you've now said yours, let's call it a day now. I'm not sure how you think I'm being racist, when my argument has all been based on sexuality. You're welcome to your opinion, no matter how incorrect it may be. | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs If the cap fits.. If the cap fits what? Doesn't work in this context so as you are continually sniping at her posts when there is nothing to snipe at I guess you are being racist, all offended by non bi lovers but being unpleasant because of somebodies skin colour, should be ashamed of yourself. I'm not getting into this against my bit, you've now said yours, let's call it a day now. I'm not sure how you think I'm being racist, when my argument has all been based on sexuality. You're welcome to your opinion, no matter how incorrect it may be." I wasn't continually sniping. She made one undercover snipe at me, to which I replied with "If the cap fits" Hardly a personal snipe if hers isn't considered in the same light. | |||
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"Couldn't care less if someone is bi or straight. We meet at clubs so we have no idea of someone's sexuality most of the time. My issue on the other threads was the people talking about acceptance were some of the same who were name calling straight people. Mrs If the cap fits.. If the cap fits what? Doesn't work in this context so as you are continually sniping at her posts when there is nothing to snipe at I guess you are being racist, all offended by non bi lovers but being unpleasant because of somebodies skin colour, should be ashamed of yourself. I'm not getting into this against my bit, you've now said yours, let's call it a day now. I'm not sure how you think I'm being racist, when my argument has all been based on sexuality. You're welcome to your opinion, no matter how incorrect it may be. I wasn't continually sniping. She made one undercover snipe at me, to which I replied with "If the cap fits" Hardly a personal snipe if hers isn't considered in the same light." Hilarious, talk about trying to take offence. There is nothing in that paragraph aimed at you unless you feel it fits your behaviours. So as you said and the correct way to use your phrase - if the cap fits. You are now blocked on both our profiles as we try to avoid prejudiced people so let's just try and avoid talking to each other to avoid further problems. | |||
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