FabSwingers.com forum: Covering travel costs

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hi all ,

I’m just wondering what the general take is if a meet asks you to cover travel costs ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't do it. Why on earth would you?

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By *adeiteWoman
over a year ago

Staffordshire

Nope. Big no no from me.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish

"Hi all ,

I’m just wondering what the general take is if a meet asks you to cover travel costs ,

So will you be handing over money? For expenses? Don't do it. Any self respecting female would not expect that.

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By *appytochatMan
over a year ago

Deep in the New Forest

Share hotel costs yes... pay for their travel costs no. It's not a pay for sex site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's an equal exchange right? Is she paying for something else? And if the cost a small why would she ask you to pay anyway? Steer clear.

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight

Whatever next satisfaction guarantees...

Can see the value of a shared hotel bill if nobody is staying there, but everything else is down to each of you surely.

Wouldn't dream of asking somebody to stump up towards our ferry costs, as expensive as they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tell her you need to cover your accommodating costs. Or tell her to do one.

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By *rownboy30Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

Red flag warning bells, fire alarm, nope nope, you kidding, jeez man, run a mile ...and so forth

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I used to meet men in hotel rooms that were getting it free with work and I would ask for £10 as half my taxi fare. They were always happy to pay. Otherwise it would be costing me £20 for sex and them nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't do it..

And she is a cheeky fecker for asking too..

Some people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No bloody way. That's crazy. Why the hell would you? Share a hotel yes but travel costs are part of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldnt accept it under anny cercumstances

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe I should be asking for petrol money when I visit people.

Missed a trick there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wonder how many she has done this too.

Be paying for drinks beforehand?

How many drinks?

And on it goes

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Hi all ,

I’m just wondering what the general take is if a meet asks you to cover travel costs ,

Define 'fairly small'?

Actually. Nah - anything at all is a financial transaction so don't worry.

I'm sure you don't see it as paying for sex. I'm sure she probably doesn't see an issue with it either.

But it's a dangerous road to go down for both parties for what is meant to be mutual fund.

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By *appytochatMan
over a year ago

Deep in the New Forest

"I used to meet men in hotel rooms that were getting it free with work and I would ask for £10 as half my taxi fare. They were always happy to pay. Otherwise it would be costing me £20 for sex and them nothing. "

Do you ask the same if you meet at their house?

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Out of interest would you have asked the same if it had been their home?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you really want sex that much ask her for a receipt and pay her after you have had sex.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

If I drive to someone's house I wouldn't ask for anything. Have never taken a taxi to someones house

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

No chance, tell her no. We often travel to London and split the guys hotel cost. We'd never dream of asking him for half the petrol money, that's our choice, our responsibility, same goes for her, op.

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

Make sure you get a reciept! Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If costs are shared no issue but not a chance if I’m asked to pay it all. Caveat Emptor!

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"If I drive to someone's house I wouldn't ask for anything. Have never taken a taxi to someones house"

Wouldn't driving to a hotel be cheaper?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What if they paid for the hotel? Would you have given them half the hotel cost?

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By *adeiteWoman
over a year ago

Staffordshire

In the nicest way possible, it was your choice to meet them, if you felt £20 for a taxi was too much then don't meet, it's just rude asking for money.

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

I'm gonna play devil's advocate and suggest that maybe she isn't quite as well off as some on here and therefore may need assistance with travel costs..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What next?

Paying for the woman's stockings, make up and McDonald's on the way home?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A fool and money are easily parted

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By *uxomBloomsWoman
over a year ago

Near Tunbridge Wells

If you were expecting her to travel a long distance to meet you and she is in financial difficulties I don't think it's that bad. I would never ask but if it were offered I might accept as it can be difficult living on minimum wage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm gonna play devil's advocate and suggest that maybe she isn't quite as well off as some on here and therefore may need assistance with travel costs.. "

Then she shouldn't be arranging to meet people, if she can't afford bus fare.

I'm not well off but I can scrape up some travel money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody cheek If someone has to travel to meet me I never ask them to go halves on the hotel just out of courtesy and so it evens things out . She shouldn’t have agreed to the meet x

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

Sorry have to disagree. The fact he gets the room free means you don't have to pay half the room cost, that's great news for you. How you get there and back is your concern and should be footed by you. That's our take on it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I drive to someone's house I wouldn't ask for anything. Have never taken a taxi to someones house"

Don't you use public transport?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

What if they paid for the hotel? Would you have given them half the hotel cost? "

Yes I have always split the cost of a hotel or payed it all myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And you're not paying for the sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What if they paid for the hotel? Would you have given them half the hotel cost?

Yes I have always split the cost of a hotel or payed it all myself"

So why ask for taxi fare? You're saving on the room cost and he has to get to the hotel too?

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By *olden RatioWoman
over a year ago

Buckinghamshire

Being asked to pay for someone else’s travel costs isn’t cool.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No! Steer clear. Can’t believe someone would actually say that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi all ,

I’m just wondering what the general take is if a meet asks you to cover travel costs ,

Of course it all depends on how desperate you are

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By *anguyXXXMan
over a year ago

torquay

Its a tricky one really, if she can not accom and she is broke then depending on the connection etc i would just buy the train ticket or whatever. Handing over cash would feel dodgy and transfering money before you meet is a no go. It could also be easily misconstrued legaly. I visit someone in southampton and happily pay the 50 quid fair and for the hotel too. She then being the legend she is treats me to dinner drinks and lunch the next day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Noooooo! X

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

Nope! Definitely not! No way!

If I travel to a meet it’s up to me to cover costs. If it involves a hotel I go halves...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it's something I'd ever do myself because I can afford to travel but I can understand why someone may ask for travel costs to be split if it meant going without electricity or gas or food for the week. Not everyone on this site has as much disposable income as the next person.

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never ever send money to someone ahead of a planned "meet", OP. Can pretty much guarantee that once they have your money in their hand they will disappear or block you.

Any real female or couple will get themselves to wherever you are meeting up, perhaps you can get the first round in but definitely no money

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By *olfAndKittenCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

If someone is serious about a meet why would they ask ahead of time?

Granted discuss it and make a plan... Like going halves on a taxi or something but pay once they are there!

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"it's something I'd ever do myself because I can afford to travel but I can understand why someone may ask for travel costs to be split if it meant going without electricity or gas or food for the week. Not everyone on this site has as much disposable income as the next person.

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for. "

In which case....don't travel and have a wank. Whether you're male or female.

There will always be more important things to spend money on.

We have essential priority bills and those bills we 'choose' to have which has meant no holiday for years.

But swinging has always been an optional activity. And if we can't afford a club visit we don't go. If we can't afford to book a hotel we don't. If we had a choice of fuel in the car for work or for a fun trip....yep....the former wins. There'll always be people with more disposable income and those with less. But I'd you're paying for sex you're paying for sex, whether you book an escort or cover someone's 'expenses'.

There's nothing wrong with choosing to pay for sex. But don't try and blur the lines and call it swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My meets have always happily paid the hotel and ordered my Ubers/paid for my taxis.

I don't put done other women who don't do this and I don't appreciate other women putting down women who do do this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its a tricky one really, if she can not accom and she is broke then depending on the connection etc i would just buy the train ticket or whatever. Handing over cash would feel dodgy and transfering money before you meet is a no go. It could also be easily misconstrued legaly. I visit someone in southampton and happily pay the 50 quid fair and for the hotel too. She then being the legend she is treats me to dinner drinks and lunch the next day. "

Totally agree. Never hand over cash.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My meets have always happily paid the hotel and ordered my Ubers/paid for my taxis.

I don't put done other women who don't do this and I don't appreciate other women putting down women who do do this."

My last meet, he paid for the hotel and dinner. We met at the station, I bought him coffee and we travelled by tube to the hotel together.

People do what works for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's crazy! Definitely an odd thing to ask for.

As a couple we pay for the hotel when meeting a guy, even if we aren't staying overnight.

Would not consider meeting him if he asked for travel expenses, just plain cheeky.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

For the first time agree to pay half or meet somewhere in the middle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for. "

She could just go without sex instead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead."

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures."

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

What happens when one party is covering everything, paying for dinners, drinks, gifts, hotels, travel/taxis - and after however long you've been chatting for and getting along great, thinking you've clicked and that you're compatible - you meet. And they've paid your train fare, stumped up cash for a hotel, bought a bottle of champagne, maybe some nice lingerie they think you'd look good in. But when you meet you don't feel the same and the chemistry isn't there.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

There are many reasons sex might not happen. To be honest, I'm sick and tired of men arranging meets with me and not taking care of their health and being tired and flaccid. But I accept that's the risk i take. I spend a lot of time and money and effort for every single one of my meets. Paying for a hotel and transport is the easiest thing a guy can do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope! Definitely not! No way!

If I travel to a meet it’s up to me to cover costs. If it involves a hotel I go halves... "

Absolutely

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By *rkeb3Man
over a year ago

east Lancashire road

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My meets have always happily paid the hotel and ordered my Ubers/paid for my taxis.

I don't put done other women who don't do this and I don't appreciate other women putting down women who do do this."

He asked for people’s thoughts though. My thoughts are if I couldn’t afford it I wouldn’t go. I would never ever even think of asking someone to cover my travel costs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My meets have always happily paid the hotel and ordered my Ubers/paid for my taxis.

I don't put done other women who don't do this and I don't appreciate other women putting down women who do do this.

He asked for people’s thoughts though. My thoughts are if I couldn’t afford it I wouldn’t go. I would never ever even think of asking someone to cover my travel costs. "

Clearly can't tell the difference between stating what you choose for yourself and moralising what others do.

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By *rkeb3Man
over a year ago

east Lancashire road

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My meets have always happily paid the hotel and ordered my Ubers/paid for my taxis.

I don't put done other women who don't do this and I don't appreciate other women putting down women who do do this.

He asked for people’s thoughts though. My thoughts are if I couldn’t afford it I wouldn’t go. I would never ever even think of asking someone to cover my travel costs.

Clearly can't tell the difference between stating what you choose for yourself and moralising what others do."

I couldn’t give a hoot what others do. I’m giving my thoughts and opinion as requested

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By *owdyboy 890Man
over a year ago

Country West

Not a hope am I covering travel costs probably ask for a taxi for a round trip to make it more expensive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

That's your opinion . But I would judge by your lack of veris and my actual veris that that isn't the case.

You do you,boo.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My meets have always happily paid the hotel and ordered my Ubers/paid for my taxis.

I don't put done other women who don't do this and I don't appreciate other women putting down women who do do this.

He asked for people’s thoughts though. My thoughts are if I couldn’t afford it I wouldn’t go. I would never ever even think of asking someone to cover my travel costs.

Clearly can't tell the difference between stating what you choose for yourself and moralising what others do.

I couldn’t give a hoot what others do. I’m giving my thoughts and opinion as requested

So do your thing and keep quiet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My meets have always happily paid the hotel and ordered my Ubers/paid for my taxis.

I don't put done other women who don't do this and I don't appreciate other women putting down women who do do this.

He asked for people’s thoughts though. My thoughts are if I couldn’t afford it I wouldn’t go. I would never ever even think of asking someone to cover my travel costs.

Clearly can't tell the difference between stating what you choose for yourself and moralising what others do.

I couldn’t give a hoot what others do. I’m giving my thoughts and opinion as requested

So do your thing and keep quiet."

Haha. Ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

Because in my world I only have mutually pleasurable sex. No one pays me for sex. And neither do I have an issue with it. But I also don't bill guys for all the makeup, clothes, toys, lube, condoms, manis, pedis, laser and so on.

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

I’m guessing it depends on how desperate you are for sex and how desperate this woman is for money .

If the cost of her travelling is minimal then it may be that she is in the unfortunate position of having very little expendable income .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

Spot on.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

No need to be rude.

Playing devil's advocate I am wondering what costs the poster referred to there - if she has for instance spent £60 on lingerie for the meet, is it not morally acceptable to let the guy pay the £60 for the room?

I would not ask for travel or taxi fare, but I have been treated to eg a trip or a hotel I otherwise could not afford, and that is within someone's perogative to offer and mine to accept I believe.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

"Hi all ,

I’m just wondering what the general take is if a meet asks you to cover travel costs ,

Give your head a wobble, it's got scam written all over it

Next she'll ask for it up front and you'll never hear from her again.

Call his/her bluff and say you'll travel to them instead.

Or ask them for money up front and say you'll give them a rebate plus 10% if they're a good shag

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Balls to her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm walking awaaaaay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't dream of asking a guy for money to meet. If I was skint, the meet wouldn't happen. Never asked a man for money ever, not about to start now.

If I suggest a hotel, it means I will pay, if I suggest a drink or a meal it means I will pay.

I've never had a guy take advantage either, if he insists on paying, then I will buy wine, nibbles or whatever.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"Balls to her."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But I also don't bill guys for all the makeup, clothes, toys, lube, condoms, manis, pedis, laser and so on.

But let's only look at what the guys pays."

You only buy makeup etc for the benefit of the blokes you meet?

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays."

Wow.

Maybe guys should bill for gym memberships, haircuts, manicures and pedicures (because I hate to break it to you - men from to you know!), clothes, toys, condoms, lube.......ah fuck it. Of course men should pay for everything.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

. This is hilarious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

You've proven the point. Everyone is paying. So to look at only one aspect is bs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But I also don't bill guys for all the makeup, clothes, toys, lube, condoms, manis, pedis, laser and so on.

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

You only buy makeup etc for the benefit of the blokes you meet?"

Yes. Everything I do in life is for the benefit of men.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

You've proven the point. Everyone is paying. So to look at only one aspect is bs."

I havent. Trust me - I really haven't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

As you are a feminist surely you want to be treated equally? Which must mean splitting the bills equally? You say you don’t expect to be paid for having sex but expecting to have everything paid for is just another way of being paid?

Just curious as it seems double standards?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But I also don't bill guys for all the makeup, clothes, toys, lube, condoms, manis, pedis, laser and so on.

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

You only buy makeup etc for the benefit of the blokes you meet?

Yes. Everything I do in life is for the benefit of men."

That's quite a sad statement really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

Just curious as it seems double standards?"

Have you closed that gender pay gap then?

You do realise equality doesn't exist without justice, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But let's only look at what the guys pays."

I would have make up and clothes already, and if I buy it, it's because I want it, bot because I'm meeting.

If you bought clothes and make, ,hair dos and treatments to go out with friends, or to go to a wedding or for work, would you also want to invoice those people for it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

I would have make up and clothes already, and if I buy it, it's because I want it, bot because I'm meeting.

If you bought clothes and make, ,hair dos and treatments to go out with friends, or to go to a wedding or for work, would you also want to invoice those people for it?

I just pay for my friends when we go out to eat and drink

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

Just curious as it seems double standards?"

In the words of MasterCard and L'Oréal......

Couple of drinks - £10

Condoms - £2

Lube - £2

Grooming - £you do that anyway, surely?

Making your own way to a meet - £variable but down to you

Hotel, dinner, champagne, lingerie, gifts, a.n.other that doesn't relate to simply meeting.... Priceless. Or not. For the guy it seems anyway.

But 'youre worth it'.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck

I’ll be making invoices and emailing them in due course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

Just curious as it seems double standards?

Have you closed that gender pay gap then?

You do realise equality doesn't exist without justice, right?"

Jeez are you for real so just because you might not get paid as much as a man that it’s ok to expect everything to be paid for?

So you know that all the men you meet are paid more than you? Or do you only meet rich/wealthy men?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

Just curious as it seems double standards?

In the words of MasterCard and L'Oréal......

Couple of drinks - £10

Condoms - £2

Lube - £2

Grooming - £you do that anyway, surely?

Making your own way to a meet - £variable but down to you

Hotel, dinner, champagne, lingerie, gifts, a.n.other that doesn't relate to simply meeting.... Priceless. Or not. For the guy it seems anyway.

But 'youre worth it'.......

I don't expect or ask a guy to take me for dinner. I'll get my own.

I don't even do socials before meets. I take time choosing who I meet and we build a good rapport.

I've never received gifts from a guy from fab. But offline in my own community it's a very normal thing for a guy to bring a gift to a date.

A hotel is essential for a fab meet. Where else would we have sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

Just curious as it seems double standards?

Have you closed that gender pay gap then?

You do realise equality doesn't exist without justice, right?

Jeez are you for real so just because you might not get paid as much as a man that it’s ok to expect everything to be paid for?

So you know that all the men you meet are paid more than you? Or do you only meet rich/wealthy men?

Except I don't expect him to pay for everything. Read the preceding messages

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By *ookingforfun9970Man
over a year ago

nearby

"Hi all ,

I’m just wondering what the general take is if a meet asks you to cover travel costs ,

I mean if it’s a small cost maybe but if she’s having to go out of her way and it’s a little costly then of course offer to cover half at least, but everyone has their own opinions here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

No need to be rude.

I would not ask for travel or taxi fare, but I have been treated to eg a trip or a hotel I otherwise could not afford, and that is within someone's perogative to offer and mine to accept I believe."

A woman chooses to buy expensive lingerie though; it's not a necessity. If a man expected new lingerie every time I met him I would tell him to supply it, but they don't, and I don't

If this was a fwb relationship and he knew her well and really wanted to see her then give her her travel costs, or pick her up.

I had a friend I was seeing for a couple of years ago wanted me to visit him every Sunday. I told him I couldn't afford to, so would only be once a fortnight, as I couldn't afford £25 a week.

He gave me the fare money on a couple of occasions, which I had no problem taking, as he was loaded. But, if he has said ok, I'll see you twice a month I wouldn't have asked him for the fare money.

On here I wouldn't trust a stranger enough to give them anything up front.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

Just curious as it seems double standards?

In the words of MasterCard and L'Oréal......

Couple of drinks - £10

Condoms - £2

Lube - £2

Grooming - £you do that anyway, surely?

Making your own way to a meet - £variable but down to you

Hotel, dinner, champagne, lingerie, gifts, a.n.other that doesn't relate to simply meeting.... Priceless. Or not. For the guy it seems anyway.

But 'youre worth it'.......

I don't expect or ask a guy to take me for dinner. I'll get my own.

I don't even do socials before meets. I take time choosing who I meet and we build a good rapport.

I've never received gifts from a guy from fab. But offline in my own community it's a very normal thing for a guy to bring a gift to a date.

A hotel is essential for a fab meet. Where else would we have sex?"

I specify that I'm looking for men who can accommodate. If that's in a hotel that's up to them. Some men live alone but accommodate in a hotel. I would never ask to meet a man in a hotel if I couldn't pay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

Just curious as it seems double standards?

Have you closed that gender pay gap then?

You do realise equality doesn't exist without justice, right?

Jeez are you for real so just because you might not get paid as much as a man that it’s ok to expect everything to be paid for?

So you know that all the men you meet are paid more than you? Or do you only meet rich/wealthy men?

Except I don't expect him to pay for everything. Read the preceding messages "

You expect your travel and hotel to be paid though? Almost as bad as being paid isn’t it?

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By *ojos party boyMan
over a year ago

Merseyside

"Hi all ,

I’m just wondering what the general take is if a meet asks you to cover travel costs ,

i assume you've helped hundreds of nigerian princes if you fall for this scam

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

It isn’t something I would ask of someone, nor would I pay for anyone that requested it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

Just curious as it seems double standards?

Have you closed that gender pay gap then?

You do realise equality doesn't exist without justice, right?

Jeez are you for real so just because you might not get paid as much as a man that it’s ok to expect everything to be paid for?

So you know that all the men you meet are paid more than you? Or do you only meet rich/wealthy men?

Except I don't expect him to pay for everything. Read the preceding messages

You expect your travel and hotel to be paid though? Almost as bad as being paid isn’t it?

Yes if I'm travelling out of central london. Otherwise guys normally ask me which hotel is local to me.

And by the way I'm not going to throw sex workers under the bus like you have. Being paid for sex is not 'bad' like you say. But I'm on fab, I don't charge for sex.

You have some shit to unpack it seems. It's not my problem that you dislike how I choose to cultivate my love life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

Just curious as it seems double standards?

In the words of MasterCard and L'Oréal......

Couple of drinks - £10

Condoms - £2

Lube - £2

Grooming - £you do that anyway, surely?

Making your own way to a meet - £variable but down to you

Hotel, dinner, champagne, lingerie, gifts, a.n.other that doesn't relate to simply meeting.... Priceless. Or not. For the guy it seems anyway.

But 'youre worth it'.......

I don't expect or ask a guy to take me for dinner. I'll get my own.

I don't even do socials before meets. I take time choosing who I meet and we build a good rapport.

I've never received gifts from a guy from fab. But offline in my own community it's a very normal thing for a guy to bring a gift to a date.

A hotel is essential for a fab meet. Where else would we have sex?

No thanks. I'm not going to any strange guys house. Neutral ground all the way unless I know them previously. Especially in a world where violence against women is omnipresent. Decent guys get that.

You want to slate women who value their personal safety?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shared hotel costs only.

Anything else is bang out of order x

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

"Hi all ,

I’m just wondering what the general take is if a meet asks you to cover travel costs ,

I have a potential meet but she has asked me to cover her travel costs , on this occasion there fairly small she is varified and if she proves to be genuine then I personally don’t have any issue with it , I just wondered what the general thought was in this."
. Sorry mate but alarm bells would be ringing for me.I understand they are verified but unless I have met them before or know the person that has done the verification I wouldn’t be paying travel costs.I have no problem paying a contribution for the hotel room or if it’s in some one house and they want a small contribution.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

Just curious as it seems double standards?

Have you closed that gender pay gap then?

You do realise equality doesn't exist without justice, right?

Jeez are you for real so just because you might not get paid as much as a man that it’s ok to expect everything to be paid for?

So you know that all the men you meet are paid more than you? Or do you only meet rich/wealthy men?

Except I don't expect him to pay for everything. Read the preceding messages

You expect your travel and hotel to be paid though? Almost as bad as being paid isn’t it?

Yes if I'm travelling out of central london. Otherwise guys normally ask me which hotel is local to me.

And by the way I'm not going to throw sex workers under the bus like you have. Being paid for sex is not 'bad' like you say. But I'm on fab, I don't charge for sex.

You have some shit to unpack it seems. It's not my problem that you dislike how I choose to cultivate my love life."

I know you told me to keep quiet but unfortunately I don’t do what I’m told. Seems to me you’re the one with the chip on the shoulder here. Nobody has thrown sex workers under the bus. This isn’t about that. The op asked for thoughts. It’s a discussion. You don’t say to people do what you do and be quiet on a discussion.

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Also if the OP says the cost is very small then it probably does mean she needs that money for other, more important things and it could have possibly been quite difficult to ask for.

She could just go without sex instead.

Yes poor people should sacrifice all pleasures.

Nobody's saying that though are they?

What's being said in general is that people shouldn't expect to be paid to meet, or that people shouldn't cover their own costs.

Do you think they won't still expect something sexual to happen? Do you think they may begrudge spending all that money for a quick drink and a goodbye?

An extreme example obviously. But when you start bringing money into the equation you put yourself in danger of being expected to fuck.

Not by all. But certainly by some.

I've had a meet where no sex happened. He paid for hotel, drinks and my taxis. He was reasonable when I told him I had to leave and he paid for my taxi home.

So if you're saying the person paying is expecting a guaranteed fuck then let's call out this behaviour instead of telling people 'they can go without sex'.

Why not equally call out the behaviour of expecting others to pay for your fun?

But let's only look at what the guys pays.

Wow.

Just curious as it seems double standards?

In the words of MasterCard and L'Oréal......

Couple of drinks - £10

Condoms - £2

Lube - £2

Grooming - £you do that anyway, surely?

Making your own way to a meet - £variable but down to you

Hotel, dinner, champagne, lingerie, gifts, a.n.other that doesn't relate to simply meeting.... Priceless. Or not. For the guy it seems anyway.

But 'youre worth it'.......

I don't expect or ask a guy to take me for dinner. I'll get my own.

I don't even do socials before meets. I take time choosing who I meet and we build a good rapport.

I've never received gifts from a guy from fab. But offline in my own community it's a very normal thing for a guy to bring a gift to a date.

A hotel is essential for a fab meet. Where else would we have sex?

No thanks. I'm not going to any strange guys house. Neutral ground all the way unless I know them previously. Especially in a world where violence against women is omnipresent. Decent guys get that.

You want to slate women who value their personal safety?"

Again where did she slate you?