FabSwingers.com forum: Fox hunting

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

Just seen a video on Facebook. A women was wrestling with dogs to save a fox, heartbreaking it was.

When are these Psychopaths going to stop. Feel like attending a fox hunt with a gang of lads and chasing the fox hunters allover the place see how they like it.

It's the thrill of the chase after all.

Bastards !

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

Totally agree op

You have to be a bit warped to enjoy watching an animal get torn apart and call that fun.

The law needs tightening up in this area.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Law does nothing about it.

Saw a thing the other day something like

"if a gang of teenagers on bikes were chasing a fox with staffies the police would be all over it"

Sick blood sport.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Look am not for it but if you wish to hunt you should able to do and how you wish .

Number will always need controlled as leaving the population unchecked only create more suffering for a large number of animals without apex predator controlling numbers.

The price of freedom..

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control."

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control."

Jesus...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control."

But it's not. A lot of these hunts actually help breed foxes for the sole purpose of a hunt. They use fox cubs to train the hounds. They are not helping anything.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick "

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

But it's not. A lot of these hunts actually help breed foxes for the sole purpose of a hunt. They use fox cubs to train the hounds. They are not helping anything."

Except their own bloodlust

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now."

Taking pleasure out of something suffering is sick

I understand the Natural world mate

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now.

Taking pleasure out of something suffering is sick

I understand the Natural world mate "

Lots of people think we are freaks and deviance this just how you guy's are seeing fox hunting.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now."

Nothing natural about it. Hell, domesticated animals aren't even naturalare they?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fox hunting is illegal.

Hunts that flout the law should be prosecuted.

I have worked within hunting, in the past, so I can safely say I know a fair bit about the illegal practises that hunts use to break the law.

I firmly disagree with it now btw.

The next safest method of controlling foxes is to shoot them, and a large percentage of foxes caught by hunts have previously been shot.

Most healthy foxes would outrun a hunt.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now.

Taking pleasure out of something suffering is sick

I understand the Natural world mate

Lots of people think we are freaks and deviance this just how you guy's are seeing fox hunting. "

What the fuck?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Just seen a video on Facebook. A women was wrestling with dogs to save a fox, heartbreaking it was.

When are these Psychopaths going to stop. Feel like attending a fox hunt with a gang of lads and chasing the fox hunters allover the place see how they like it.

It's the thrill of the chase after all.

Bastards !"

I saw plenty of coverage of the fox hound killed on the road over Xmas.

No mention that it had been lured there by hunt sabs......

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now.

Taking pleasure out of something suffering is sick

I understand the Natural world mate "

It would appear not.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now.

Taking pleasure out of something suffering is sick

I understand the Natural world mate

It would appear not."

Why would it appear not ? Lol

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just seen a video on Facebook. A women was wrestling with dogs to save a fox, heartbreaking it was.

When are these Psychopaths going to stop. Feel like attending a fox hunt with a gang of lads and chasing the fox hunters allover the place see how they like it.

It's the thrill of the chase after all.

Bastards !"

Have you seen that piece of shit kicking his horse in the stomach?? Before chasing a fox down!! Filth!!!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow! Just wow!! Can’t bekieve what I’ve read on this post!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *iss.ddWoman
over a year ago

Leeds + Newcastle

Regardless of your thoughts either way, I don't agree with physically violent hunt sabs.

It's fighting fire with fire, cruelty with cruelty and I don't know what else to do.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as lampings ok tho

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well if we could just rationally discuss the real need for managing fox populations against the most effective and humane methods....Oh, wait, this is the internet.....don't mind me, carry on...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just seen a video on Facebook. A women was wrestling with dogs to save a fox, heartbreaking it was.

When are these Psychopaths going to stop. Feel like attending a fox hunt with a gang of lads and chasing the fox hunters allover the place see how they like it.

It's the thrill of the chase after all.

Bastards !"

Bloody tree huggers gosh

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"If we need a cull then shoot them. I don’t think it’s needed to rampage through the countryside and watch an animal suffer at the end of it in the name of sport. The riders have fun but that’s about it. It’s cruel. "

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

It amazes me that so many people have no idea what happens. I know people who've been assaulted, dragged from horses and driven at with their children - all by balaclava wearing thugs who see it as much as a 'class' war as anything to do with animal rights.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"Just seen a video on Facebook. A women was wrestling with dogs to save a fox, heartbreaking it was.

When are these Psychopaths going to stop. Feel like attending a fox hunt with a gang of lads and chasing the fox hunters allover the place see how they like it.

It's the thrill of the chase after all.

Bastards !

Bloody tree huggers gosh

I'm going out to hug one now after starting this thread

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You’re more likely to see a fox in the city/ town centres , munching on a mucky ‘D , an over weight fox you city people are creating obese foxes with health problems

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

No one is disagreeing about the need to control the population in the countryside. But not the letting dogs rip it to bits for others enjoyment. That's sick

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

"You’re more likely to see a fox in the city/ town centres , munching on a mucky ‘D , an over weight fox you city people are creating obese foxes with health problems

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You’re more likely to see a fox in the city/ town centres , munching on a mucky ‘D , an over weight fox you city people are creating obese foxes with health problems

True. A friend of mine is a Fox Control Officer in a town. In a single jight, in one parish he cage trapped 27 foxes.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. "

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

A woman who was convicted of assault of a sab last year when she struck him with a whip as he tried to violently drag her from her horse died after falling from her horse this year. Sabs celebrated her death on social media and sent sick messages to her family.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

True. A friend of mine is a Fox Control Officer in a town. In a single jight, in one parish he cage trapped 27 foxes."

Do you know how or where they are released or are they out down ?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

I don’t doubt that. I don’t have FBook so I haven’t seen anything. Violence is not something I can stomach anyway. There has always been violence associated with fox hunting that won’t ever change. Violence is never acceptable.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

True. A friend of mine is a Fox Control Officer in a town. In a single jight, in one parish he cage trapped 27 foxes.

Do you know how or where they are released or are they out down ? "

I’m sure they would have given the foxes a 5 minute head start

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

I agree soon as those chippy middle class uni drop outs mention 'posh cunts' you know it is about class and not animal welfare. Hare coursing and dog fighting is a problem but where is the outrage.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

I agree soon as those chippy middle class uni drop outs mention 'posh cunts' you know it is about class and not animal welfare. Hare coursing and dog fighting is a problem but where is the outrage."

Yes and cock fighting too

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I applaud saboteurs really. If people are still mindlessly torturing animals despite it being a criminal offense what other option is there? These people need to be fucking punished. Utter cunts.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

I beg to differ actually that the majority of sabs don’t trespass and take their cause seriously. Being very aware of what they are legally allowed to do and what they are not legally allowed to do. Where the legal rights of way are for them to pass through to safely block off the hunt. Balaclavas are worn to protect their identity from the thugs who ride their horses at them, crack their whips at them and the terrier men who drive their quad bikes at them.

Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them.

This is nothing to do with class.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *NT LoversCouple
over a year ago

Manchester Warrington

What about the three hunt supporters who knocked seven bells out of a middle aged guy who was legitimately monitoring their hunt ... slapped on the wrist by the hunt supporting judge and given a fine... they might have lost their jobs,if given a custodial sentence ...ffs... if three blokes in the street had done such a vicious assault , they'd have been banged up quicker than a toot on the huntsmans horn !

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

I agree soon as those chippy middle class uni drop outs mention 'posh cunts' you know it is about class and not animal welfare. Hare coursing and dog fighting is a problem but where is the outrage."

No ones mentioned class mate

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them.

This is nothing to do with class."

How is a balaclava going to protect against a quad bike?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them.

This is nothing to do with class."

Beg all you like.

How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at?

It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity?

When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava?

The simple fact is that it prevents them being identified when video evidence shows wrongdoing. Which if you look online happens an awful lot. As for helping hounds can you explain why sabs lure hounds across roads with horns if they're so concerned for animal wellbeing?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them.

This is nothing to do with class.

How is a balaclava going to protect against a quad bike?

It doesn’t, and you’d know that if you’d been driven at.

But it at least protects your identity from thugs who all seem to be in each other’s pockets

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Seeing as in a lot of cases we have encroached onto their habitat by building on green belt land and the countryside thus forcing them to adapt. Yes they may well do damage to wildlife, lambs and chickens (disagree about cats only read the other day an article about this and pretty much disproved this) but how can you justify chasing them and ripping them apart? Yes there are better ways of controlling them but like a lot of things this needs to be done correctly as the eco system will become unbalanced elsewhere.

I’m speaking from experience of an equestrian and a granddaughter of farmers as well as being a townie in later life.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All this for a red fluffy thing

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Always a combative subject on Fab.

Humane controlling is the answer hunting with dogs is cruel.

Then the Sabs can move onto stopping the very overt cruelty in specialist abattoirs?

Cock fighting

Dog fighting

The horses left in horrendous conditions and trap racing up and down roads

Hare coursing

But we know they won’t touch that.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

I’m speaking from experience of an equestrian and a granddaughter of farmers as well as being a townie in later life. "

Would you mind pointing out where in any of my comments I justify hunting foxes or state I support it?

Just one example?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fox hunting is actually banned in this country x yes it is still card fox hunting but it is done by Cent , which Hounds follow , I myself I've done both kind of hunting , it's a very old tradition which goes back years, it keeps the horses fit it keeps the hounds in work and it also helps to keep healthy foxes in the countryside , a pack of Hounds will never catch a healthy fit fox, 99% of the time it's only the week , injured foxes that are caught , but as it is now been banned this does not happen now farmers use shotguns to shoot the foxes sometimes they shoot him outright sometimes they may not which then leads to a poor Fox having to die a slow painful death

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them.

This is nothing to do with class.

Beg all you like.

How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at?

It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity?

When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava?

Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife.

And as I’ve already explained, staying within the confines of the law is also part of their remit. Otherwise they’re prevented from doing the job they set out to do. The task is difficult enough as it is without giving reason to be caught up in battles that are unnecessary. Most sabs wear head and body cams for their own protection these days too as well as for evidence purposes. There is more than enough footage to counteract your argument.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How is a balaclava going to protect against a quad bike?

It doesn’t, and you’d know that if you’d been driven at.

But it at least protects your identity from thugs who all seem to be in each other’s pockets"

I don't follow.

If you are behaving within the law then why hide?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them.

This is nothing to do with class.

Beg all you like.

How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at?

It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity?

When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava?

Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife.

My turn to beg to differ then.

I've seen plenty of footage of assaults, criminal damage, threatening behaviour and masked sabs stood by main roads blowing horns.

Because those hunting wear cameras too.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

How is a balaclava going to protect against a quad bike?

It doesn’t, and you’d know that if you’d been driven at.

But it at least protects your identity from thugs who all seem to be in each other’s pockets

I don't follow.

If you are behaving within the law then why hide?"

It’s got nothing to do with the law. Its the people within the hunt and their thugs, who quite frankly aren’t very nice people.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them.

This is nothing to do with class.

Beg all you like.

How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at?

It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity?

When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava?

Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife.

My turn to beg to differ then.

I've seen plenty of footage of assaults, criminal damage, threatening behaviour and masked sabs stood by main roads blowing horns.

Because those hunting wear cameras too.

And how often do you attend, or do you only watch select footage?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How is a balaclava going to protect against a quad bike?

It doesn’t, and you’d know that if you’d been driven at.

But it at least protects your identity from thugs who all seem to be in each other’s pockets

I don't follow.

If you are behaving within the law then why hide?

It’s got nothing to do with the law. Its the people within the hunt and their thugs, who quite frankly aren’t very nice people."
I'm a nice person and i go hunting

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

How is a balaclava going to protect against a quad bike?

It doesn’t, and you’d know that if you’d been driven at.

But it at least protects your identity from thugs who all seem to be in each other’s pockets

I don't follow.

If you are behaving within the law then why hide?

It’s got nothing to do with the law. Its the people within the hunt and their thugs, who quite frankly aren’t very nice people. I'm a nice person and i go hunting"

Maybe so Polly, but the thugs that are brought along most definitely aren’t. Although I admit to finding nice and hunting difficult to come to terms with in the same post.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them.

This is nothing to do with class.

Beg all you like.

How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at?

It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity?

When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava?

Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife.

My turn to beg to differ then.

I've seen plenty of footage of assaults, criminal damage, threatening behaviour and masked sabs stood by main roads blowing horns.

Because those hunting wear cameras too.

And how often do you attend, or do you only watch select footage?"

I don't attend. Do you?

But I know and encounter people who do on a regular basis. I've seen footage provided by both hunters and sabs. And I know both sides are guilty of editing said footage to present what They want the viewer to see.

If you believe that sabs are innocent parties and purely acting out of motivation for animal welfare then you're delusional.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *irtySekretsCouple
over a year ago

Filthy Desires Upon Trent

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control."

Fuck all to do with Control.

All to do with stuck up pricks vandalising the countryside. Committing offences by trespassing and breaking the law on the roads. All in the name of sport. AND being allowed to get away with it Sick arrogant bastards

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck me this is the most depressing, desolate thread i've read on here.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them.

This is nothing to do with class.

Beg all you like.

How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at?

It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity?

When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava?

Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife.

My turn to beg to differ then.

I've seen plenty of footage of assaults, criminal damage, threatening behaviour and masked sabs stood by main roads blowing horns.

Because those hunting wear cameras too.

And how often do you attend, or do you only watch select footage?

I don't attend. Do you?

If you believe that sabs are innocent parties and purely acting out of motivation for animal welfare then you're delusional.

Yes.

Not delusional, just passionate.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Fox hunting is illegal and anyone caught doing so should be prosecuted.

But don't assume those out hunting aren't drag hunting, which is perfectly legal and involves no foxes.

To those living in cities - foxes are often portrayed by the media as harmless. Have you seen the damage they can do to lambs, chickens and other wildlife? Not to mention domestic cats.

Not everyone sat on a horse is a bloodthirsty toff out to kill.

Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

I don't hunt but I know people who do.

It's done on private land with permission so not sure where 'rampaging' comes into it.

Sabs on the other hand trespass where they choose and seem so committed to their cause they need to hide their faces.

For every video showing abhorrent behaviour by hunters I can guarantee there's just as much shocking footage of violence by masked thugs.

Sabs are often on hand to rescue hounds that are left injured by the hunt who occasionally will lose control of them.

This is nothing to do with class.

Beg all you like.

How does a balaclava stop someone being hit or ridden at?

It doesn't. If their behaviour is within the law and they are doing no wrong why the need to hide their identity?

When was the last time you saw anyone hunting in a balaclava?

Sabs don’t lure hounds across roads with horns, that’s not their purpose. Their purpose is to protect wildlife.

My turn to beg to differ then.

I've seen plenty of footage of assaults, criminal damage, threatening behaviour and masked sabs stood by main roads blowing horns.

Because those hunting wear cameras too.

And how often do you attend, or do you only watch select footage?

I don't attend. Do you?

If you believe that sabs are innocent parties and purely acting out of motivation for animal welfare then you're delusional.

Yes.

Not delusional, just passionate."

So you can hand on heart say no sab has ever broken the law, been convincted of an offence, behaved in a violent or threatening manner, trespassed, caused criminal damage or caused the death of a hound?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you were being completely honest, it’s humans who hunt animals that need culling.

Obviously I don’t condone this, but prison for a year might be the answer. It’s a tradition which extends to the royals as well.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no excuse for fox hunting with dogs, if there is a fox problem go out shoot them BOOOM!! Dead.. over nice and quick, to make a terrified animal to run for its life for miles til its too exhausted to run anymore then its torn to shreds by dogs is a bloody disgrace.

If someone let their dogs chase a cat and kill it there would be outrage, why is it ok for a fox?

The fact that people enjoy it is sick...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now."

So in the 'natural world' as you put it, it's all part of nature to chase smaller animals on horseback with packs of dogs to rip them apart is it? I think sir David Attenborough may have missed this somewhere along the line in his nature documentaries then. Perhaps you should enlighten him?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Foxes killed by hunting per year - 20 000. Foxes killed by cars each year - 100 000 - because every car journey is essential, right?

I wonder if the foxes really give a shit about how they're killed.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

For those that don't know or understand the difference between fox hunting (illegal) and drag hunting (legal) here's a useful link.

If you can't be arsed to read it foxes aren't hunted in drag hunts.

https://metro.co.uk/2017/12/01/hang-on-why-are-hunt-saboteurs-targeting-drag-hunts-7111818/

And the woman mentioned in the article is the one I mentioned earlier whose death in a riding accident hunt sabs saw fit to celebrate online.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

No I can’t and I don’t believe I have said that anywhere.

What I have said is that sabs are aware of the laws involved around the illegalities of fox hunting, trespassing and public rights of way. They need to make sure to operate within the law at all times. Being violent, operating outside of the law doesn’t help their cause. That’s not to say it doesn’t or hasn’t happened. I cannot and am not responsible for everyone.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

"I applaud saboteurs really. If people are still mindlessly torturing animals despite it being a criminal offense what other option is there? These people need to be fucking punished. Utter cunts."

Really?? Saboteurs are themselves very likely to commit crimes in their pursuit of defending foxes!

EG. I once worked at a country house Hotel location. The local Hunt met as they did as a Social meet, not for hunting purposes.

But saboteurs arrived en-masse into the village. Their mood was anything but polite and to get their way around, they rampaged their way through private houses gardens; some even scaled fences around the hotel's grounds but when asked to leave, we got a volley of abuse, threats of violence and so on. One of our security team was assaulted.

Some got arrested in the area for Breach of the Peace and other charges including the assault as mentioned.

Yes, the local Hunt had some of their members behave totally negativemy, all as regrettable as what the Saboteurs did.

But as in any fight, it takes 2 sides to create the problem and cause a fight. Saboteurs aren't innocent. Their supporters are just as bad.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

No I can’t and I don’t believe I have said that anywhere.

So we can agree that there are bad elements to both sides.

Out of interest why do sabs protest at drag hunts where no foxes are being hunted?

I know plenty of people who would never hunt foxes yet enjoy drag hunting. There is a difference. Yet each time they attend a meet they are confronted by verbally abusive protesters, many from LACS.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2 sets if inbred arseholes as I see it both breaking the law both no respect for other people vile creatures both side are.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I saw that video too and it was heartbreaking. I live in the countryside and I’ve kept chickens that have been eaten by Mr Fox but I don’t agree with fox hunting at all. Chasing an animal for fun so it can be ripped apart isn’t sport. We have stag hunting here too and they are an arrogant bunch of c**ts!

They think it’s ok to ride on your land and hunt without asking permission.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Foxes killed by hunting per year - 20 000. Foxes killed by cars each year - 100 000 - because every car journey is essential, right?

I wonder if the foxes really give a shit about how they're killed."
20,000 where on earth did you find that statistic?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I can’t and I don’t believe I have said that anywhere.

So we can agree that there are bad elements to both sides.

Out of interest why do sabs protest at drag hunts where no foxes are being hunted?

I know plenty of people who would never hunt foxes yet enjoy drag hunting. There is a difference. Yet each time they attend a meet they are confronted by verbally abusive protesters, many from LACS.

Because it is very easy to jump to conclusions I suppose.

As an aside, "drag hunts" makes an image of Lilly Savage on horseback pop in to my head. Probably says quite a bit about me I guess...

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Foxes killed by hunting per year - 20 000. Foxes killed by cars each year - 100 000 - because every car journey is essential, right?

I wonder if the foxes really give a shit about how they're killed."

Plus the fact you can legally shoot or trap then kill foxes to keep their numbers down.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

No I can’t and I don’t believe I have said that anywhere.

So we can agree that there are bad elements to both sides.

Out of interest why do sabs protest at drag hunts where no foxes are being hunted?

I know plenty of people who would never hunt foxes yet enjoy drag hunting. There is a difference. Yet each time they attend a meet they are confronted by verbally abusive protesters, many from LACS.

I can’t make any comment about what happens in your area, I’ve never been. But certainly the areas I do know it’s mainly trails as opposed to drags that are targeted. Drag hunts will have a runner that is chased. A trail hunt is often a cover for a real hunt and that is why they are targeted.

I don’t know if LACS has a particular stance on that, it’s not an organisation I’m part of so couldn’t comment.

Go along to one of the drags yourself rather than getting your information always from someone else, find out personally what happens.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

As far as I'm aware, the only successful prosecutions for hunting with dogs have been for here coursing.

Because, of course it's something that "undesirables" like working class lads and gypsies do.

I also notice that nobody cares about the fortunes of rats killed by terriers.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as I'm aware, the only successful prosecutions for hunting with dogs have been for here coursing.

Because, of course it's something that "undesirables" like working class lads and gypsies do.

I also notice that nobody cares about the fortunes of rats killed by terriers."

I do! I like rats x

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as I'm aware, the only successful prosecutions for hunting with dogs have been for here coursing.

Because, of course it's something that "undesirables" like working class lads and gypsies do.

I also notice that nobody cares about the fortunes of rats killed by terriers.

I do! I like rats x"

What ever next ? People will complain about kulling badgers next

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ongleggedfemaleWoman
over a year ago

Bucks

" Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus. "

Drag hunting is not the same!! A scent trail is laid over land where permission had been given to go or over land where horses are allowed. Hounds hunt the trail and the riders follow. They certainly do not rampage over the country side.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say use police as foxes for 1 day per year release the hounds

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who hunts foxes on horse back with dogs is a fucking piece of shit who needs hanging. If theres a fox problem shoot them. Not that i would do that but if its a must hunting them with dogs is just for complete and utter psychos

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately "

More bollocks

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

And on the subject of shooting...that only works if the rifle man is skilled and gets a clean and decisive shot. Too many foxes get wounded by amateurs and go off to die a slow painful death? I certainly don't agree with that! "
oh really well a guy who told them to get off his land was assaulted and the next day his car and shed burned out. Tell they aren't thugs? This was last week btw and i know cause i follow anti hunt pages on facebook

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

More bollocks"

Please elaborate how its bollocks

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ndyandMandyCouple
over a year ago

swansea

Jesus there’s some one sided shite being spoken by both sides

It could be worse, they could be vegans

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

And on the subject of shooting...that only works if the rifle man is skilled and gets a clean and decisive shot. Too many foxes get wounded by amateurs and go off to die a slow painful death? I certainly don't agree with that! oh really well a guy who told them to get off his land was assaulted and the next day his car and shed burned out. Tell they aren't thugs? This was last week btw and i know cause i follow anti hunt pages on facebook"

And an anti hunt page on Facebook would never lie or put a slant on anything?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

More bollocks

Please elaborate how its bollocks"
its bollocks because he's a hunter

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

More bollocks

Please elaborate how its bollocks"

How do you know about the wealth of people who follow hunts? And what power do they have?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Drag hunting comes with the same set of issues but without a live fox. They still rampage all over the place with a pack mentality with little regard for others in the area.

However, they don’t kill a live fox inhumanly so that’s a bonus.

And on the subject of shooting...that only works if the rifle man is skilled and gets a clean and decisive shot. Too many foxes get wounded by amateurs and go off to die a slow painful death? I certainly don't agree with that! oh really well a guy who told them to get off his land was assaulted and the next day his car and shed burned out. Tell they aren't thugs? This was last week btw and i know cause i follow anti hunt pages on facebook

And an anti hunt page on Facebook would never lie or put a slant on anything?"
Well consideri g the post was shared on the page from the telegraph newspaper. But he papers lie too. I. Sure the guy set fire to his own stuff then reported it to the police and took photos and sent them in

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

More bollocks

Please elaborate how its bollocks

How do you know about the wealth of people who follow hunts? And what power do they have?"

So you're telling me there's working class fox hunters? Haha

Tell me which political party flirted with the idea of lifting the ban?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

More bollocks

Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunter"

Just love to know how someone can make a sweeping statement about someone's wealth and power how does he know?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

More bollocks

Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunter"
im working class spent half my life hunting rabbits

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth OYO Hotel

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick "

Totally agree

There was a fox outside my place the other night. I tossed it a couple of slices of pizza. I just wanted to give it a treat and in this case don't care if I broke the law!!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

More bollocks

Please elaborate how its bollocks

How do you know about the wealth of people who follow hunts? And what power do they have?

So you're telling me there's working class fox hunters? Haha

Tell me which political party flirted with the idea of lifting the ban?

Yes trucks drivers factory workers even police officers. Our postman hunts too!

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

More bollocks

Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunterim working class spent half my life hunting rabbits

And other animals with gun/dog/ferret its a lifestyle idid generally eat what i killed or sell to a butcher but dont assume only rich folks hunt people have hunted since the begining of man its instinct"
my fried is working class and he shoots too. As he explaind to me once the animals he shoots live a normal life then bam dead. They don't even know its coming. Where as a fox suffer so much terror and pain for what need? So these cunts on horse back get their kicks

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth OYO Hotel

Oh, I meant to say when the Conservatives successfully duped the public of getting rid of the Liberal Democrats in 2015, the first thing they did was repeal the fox hunting ban.

We should hunt David Cameron and have him chased by a gang of hoodies, all while he's going on about "extremism".

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"Oh, I meant to say when the Conservatives successfully duped the public of getting rid of the Liberal Democrats in 2015, the first thing they did was repeal the fox hunting ban.

We should hunt David Cameron and have him chased by a gang of hoodies, all while he's going on about "extremism"."

No they didn’t.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth OYO Hotel

*correction, they tried to repeal it? Ok sorry no more spam posts*

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

More bollocks

Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunterim working class spent half my life hunting rabbits

And other animals with gun/dog/ferret its a lifestyle idid generally eat what i killed or sell to a butcher but dont assume only rich folks hunt people have hunted since the begining of man its instinct my fried is working class and he shoots too. As he explaind to me once the animals he shoots live a normal life then bam dead. They don't even know its coming. Where as a fox suffer so much terror and pain for what need? So these cunts on horse back get their kicks"

Erm things that are shot die in pain too, also the fox more often than not is grabbed by the neck or spine and shook by the first hound that hits it.

Then thrown back and torn apart, so it’s usually dead anyway when the others get too it. So I’m led to beleive.

Plus have you seen how big fox hounds are? It’s a mix of greyhound fox terrier and bulldog

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

Totally agree

There was a fox outside my place the other night. I tossed it a couple of slices of pizza. I just wanted to give it a treat and in this case don't care if I broke the law!!"

You see you’re making that fox have a fast food addiction

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

More bollocks

Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunterim working class spent half my life hunting rabbits

And other animals with gun/dog/ferret its a lifestyle idid generally eat what i killed or sell to a butcher but dont assume only rich folks hunt people have hunted since the begining of man its instinct my fried is working class and he shoots too. As he explaind to me once the animals he shoots live a normal life then bam dead. They don't even know its coming. Where as a fox suffer so much terror and pain for what need? So these cunts on horse back get their kicks"

Foxes is harsh as its not a tasty meat trust me iv tried it its gross so nobody will eat it

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1) people who hunt are a mixed bag just like those who appose it.

2) wealth has nothing to do with it as those who choose to spend money on their horses and subscription probably don't spend alot on holidays or anything else.

3) vegans do hunt diet has nothing to do with it.

5) it does not appeal to everyone however making out its a class war is just stupid.

Everyone has an opinion we just have to be open minded and try to make educated decisions based on fact.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry?

Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends.

A plumber terrier will kill rats much faster and effectively than some muppet with an air rifle.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry?

Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends.

A plumber terrier will kill rats much faster and effectively than some muppet with an air rifle.

"
rabbit tastes hood hare not too bad either bit chewy tho not tried rat but happy for killing them with a boot and the dogs were designed to kill those animals

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are.

Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

Jesus..."

Does he fox hunt too

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *htcMan
over a year ago

Should be illegal. They won't ban it because of the rich who like to hunt like the royals and government

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry?

Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends.

A plumber terrier will kill rats much faster and effectively than some muppet with an air rifle.

rabbit tastes hood hare not too bad either bit chewy tho not tried rat but happy for killing them with a boot and the dogs were designed to kill those animals "

Fox hounds are a especially for foxes, would you beleive?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxhound

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should be illegal. They won't ban it because of the rich who like to hunt like the royals and government"

I thought illegal was a sick bird ?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are.

Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics "

How do I ?..I seen a creature in fear for its life about to be ripped apart in a disgraceful death, and because I have a heart !...do not make assumptions my friend or label me anything

...you don't know me

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry?

Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends.

A plumber terrier will kill rats much faster and effectively than some muppet with an air rifle.

rabbit tastes hood hare not too bad either bit chewy tho not tried rat but happy for killing them with a boot and the dogs were designed to kill those animals

Fox hounds are a especially for foxes, would you beleive?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxhound

"
i know just taste like shit as do foxes

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

True. A friend of mine is a Fox Control Officer in a town. In a single jight, in one parish he cage trapped 27 foxes.

Do you know how or where they are released or are they out down ? "

Once they are trapped they are destroyed, usually by shooting. No point in passing the problem on.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry?

Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends.

Hunting with dogs is illegal no matter what they hunt. Ferrets don't catch rabbits they flush them into nets. Falconers do not use birds to hunt other animals.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry?

Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends.

Hunting with dogs is illegal no matter what they hunt. Ferrets don't catch rabbits they flush them into nets. Falconers do not use birds to hunt other animals.

"
guess im a lawbreaker as well as a heartbreaker then

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

fox hunting is like the forums.

your ripped apart by a bunch of people up their own arseholes while everyone else stands around enjoying it to fit in.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are.

Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics

How do I ?..I seen a creature in fear for its life about to be ripped apart in a disgraceful death, and because I have a heart !...do not make assumptions my friend or label me anything

...you don't know me

There you go. Point proven.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are.

Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics

How do I ?..I seen a creature in fear for its life about to be ripped apart in a disgraceful death, and because I have a heart !...do not make assumptions my friend or label me anything

...you don't know me

There you go. Point proven.

What point ? I think your seeing what you want to see mate ..like I said you don't me

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should be illegal. They won't ban it because of the rich who like to hunt like the royals and government"

So how do you know they are rich?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should be illegal. They won't ban it because of the rich who like to hunt like the royals and government

So how do you know they are rich?"

I’d love too see the whole of parliament on horseback,

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think fox hunting is disgusting.....

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry?

Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends.

Hunting with dogs is illegal no matter what they hunt. Ferrets don't catch rabbits they flush them into nets. Falconers do not use birds to hunt other animals.

Using dogs to hunt rats or rabbits is totally legal.

Falconers most certainly do hunt animals, especially using birds such as Harris Hawks (although to be pedantic, someone flying a hawk should rightly be called an austringer.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only reason it's tolerated is because its done by rich people with power.

If chavs started doing it on motorbikes with pitbulls it would get shut down immediately

More bollocks

Please elaborate how its bollocks its bollocks because he's a hunterim working class spent half my life hunting rabbits

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are.

Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics

How do I ?..I seen a creature in fear for its life about to be ripped apart in a disgraceful death, and because I have a heart !...do not make assumptions my friend or label me anything

...you don't know me

There you go. Point proven.

What point ? I think your seeing what you want to see mate ..like I said you don't me

You told me what to do, or rather what not to do, dictated what I should think, whilst branding a whole group of people you’ve never met bastards.

Man, these Marxists eh?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think fox hunting is disgusting.....

Then don't do it

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are.

Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics

How do I ?..I seen a creature in fear for its life about to be ripped apart in a disgraceful death, and because I have a heart !...do not make assumptions my friend or label me anything

...you don't know me

There you go. Point proven.

What point ? I think your seeing what you want to see mate ..like I said you don't me

You told me what to do, or rather what not to do, dictated what I should think, whilst branding a whole group of people you’ve never met bastards.

Man, these Marxists eh? "

Go away you silly man

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *w79Man
over a year ago

Stalbridge

If any animal needs to be culled due to over population, damage to livestock, crops etc.

It should be done cleanly & humanely by a expert marksman.

One shot one kill.

Not chased till it drops & the ripped apart by dogs owned by rich inbred twats who think they are better than the working man.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Also in my opinion the OP shows exactly what kind of person hunt sabs and other left wing kooks are.

Absolutely no different to the alt-right in dress, methods or ethics

How do I ?..I seen a creature in fear for its life about to be ripped apart in a disgraceful death, and because I have a heart !...do not make assumptions my friend or label me anything

...you don't know me

There you go. Point proven.

What point ? I think your seeing what you want to see mate ..like I said you don't me

You told me what to do, or rather what not to do, dictated what I should think, whilst branding a whole group of people you’ve never met bastards.

Man, these Marxists eh?

Go away you silly man

I’d rather not.

And I find Hunt balls fascinating.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"If any animal needs to be culled due to over population, damage to livestock, crops etc.

It should be done cleanly & humanely by a expert marksman.

One shot one kill.

Not chased till it drops & the ripped apart by dogs owned by rich inbred twats who think they are better than the working man. "

From an interview with Miles Cooper. A former hunt sab who's now a hunt master.

"Further, LACS state clearly that shooting is always better than hunting. There’s no evidence to support this view at all but that doesn’t seem to put the LACS off one tiny jot. There is only one piece of peer-reviewed and published research that I am aware of in the UK. It was original research entitled “Wounding rates in shooting foxes” led by Dr Nick Fox in 2003 and it indicates that wounding rates could well be very much higher than previously anticipated. I worked on the project as a researcher to Dr Fox and contributed to establishing the initial field trials, protocols and recording of the data sets. Crucially, having been peer-reviewed and published in the Universities Federation for Animal Welfare journal “Animal Welfare” in 2005 it has been judged to have scientific or evidential merit and is replicable. This means that if the LACS really wanted to engage in a serious scientific debate they could easily fund for the study to be replicated in order to verify or counter the data legitimately. Of course LACS has no interest in this. I suspect because there’s far too high a risk that the results would demonstrate that when foxes are shot, they are not all killed as cleanly as is portrayed by the LACS and that wounding followed by starvation is an inevitably."

So no. Shooting is not more humane.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One shot one kill?

Expert marksman?

Where are such master marksmen verses in ‘humanely’ shooting animals?

Recreationally hunting my son, that’s where they are.

Deer stalking, rabbit shooting, rat shooting, grouse shooting, just blowing stuff away with rifle, shot gun and air gun.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going to sit this one out.. I fecking hate basil brush

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"Going to sit this one out.. I fecking hate basil brush "

You forgot the Boom Boom

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of only so much noise and anger was expended on the homeless the dispossed the ill infirm those who need our care our protection and our anger converted to positive action that changes people's lives for the better....

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"fox hunting is like the forums.

your ripped apart by a bunch of people up their own arseholes while everyone else stands around enjoying it to fit in."

This.

Opinions are like arse holes everyone has one some are more pretty than others lol.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One shot one kill?

Expert marksman?

Where are such master marksmen verses in ‘humanely’ shooting animals?

Recreationally hunting my son, that’s where they are.

Deer stalking, rabbit shooting, rat shooting, grouse shooting, just blowing stuff away with rifle, shot gun and air gun.

And grey squirrels, they’re killing our native reds

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ycra loutMan
over a year ago

york/Scarborough

I've lived in the countryside all my life and I love wildlife totally..I was brought up around fox hunting..ferreting. shooting

We all have different views on everything and not 1 person is right nor wrong

But my "opinion" on fox hunting is...yes..I agree with it because I've seen 1st hand the carnage they cause but.....once the fox goes to ground..leave it there and move on..afterall..the fox is smarter than any ladi so da person with terriers and a shovel

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone in this post said vegans hunt

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

May the sounds of hounds never die..

During a drag hunt of course, which is all we do nowadays. I’m not posh and I’m not a thug. My whole family hunt, shoot and fish. We are all passionate about our countryside and our animals

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ack4funlondonMan
over a year ago

headingley

"May the sounds of hounds never die..

During a drag hunt of course, which is all we do nowadays. I’m not posh and I’m not a thug. My whole family hunt, shoot and fish. We are all passionate about our countryside and our animals

Couldn’t agree more. They are also those who help maintain the countryside, hedgerows etc

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"May the sounds of hounds never die..

During a drag hunt of course, which is all we do nowadays. I’m not posh and I’m not a thug. My whole family hunt, shoot and fish. We are all passionate about our countryside and our animals

Same here

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But..... what does the fox say?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"May the sounds of hounds never die..

During a drag hunt of course, which is all we do nowadays. I’m not posh and I’m not a thug. My whole family hunt, shoot and fish. We are all passionate about our countryside and our animals

Same here

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do not understand why people would do Fox hunting at all.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

True. A friend of mine is a Fox Control Officer in a town. In a single jight, in one parish he cage trapped 27 foxes.

Do you know how or where they are released or are they out down ?

Once they are trapped they are destroyed, usually by shooting. No point in passing the problem on. "

Also, it's illegal to release trapped vermin.

(Wildlife and Countryside act, 1984)

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry?

Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends.

Hunting with dogs is illegal no matter what they hunt. Ferrets don't catch rabbits they flush them into nets. Falconers do not use birds to hunt other animals.

No it isn't.

Ratting with terriers is perfectly legal. I'm pretty sure rabbiting with lurchers is too. Ferrets can kill and lie up with a rabbit. When they flush, they can do so into nets or to dogs.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All this meat talk is making me hungry, think lamb shank for lunch

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

[Removed by poster at 03/01/19 10:58:41]

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had a slice of game pie some English cheese and a glass of port.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

"I had a slice of game pie some English cheese and a glass of port.

So ?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I had a slice of game pie some English cheese and a glass of port.

Not sure about the port but you can't go wrong with a nice game pie.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

Keep trying to offend guys

It's funny

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Keep trying to offend guys

It's funny

What makes you think we're trying to offend? Is there some kind of persecution complex going on here?

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ensualbicock OP Man
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

I really wish there was a shake of the head emoji, I really do lol

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control."

This is absolute bullshit

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

I'm against fox hunting because its just sport hunting and not population control, if it ever was population control those days are long long gone.

I do however see nothing wrong with using dogs to hunt, and dogs killing another animal that is either a pest or will be used for food.

I also think using dogs to hunt foxes would be a good way to control fox population, but it would need to be done better.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now."

Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world'

About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify.

I am completely against hunting with dogs as a celebratory sport and wiping blood on kids cheeks. But not against humane vermin and pest control. People that can't see the difference on either side have an issue. As always it's the rabid for and antis that are the problem and the issue.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the plus side, when the poor terrified animal dies, it crosses the rainbow bridge wearing a crown carrying a sceptre with bits of the royal family stitched to the bottom of its cape ...

(Lenny Henry, 1990)

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now.

Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world'

About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify.

David Bellamy turned pro hunting with hounds after he spent time researching it. Also there are no red coats on the hunting field and "blooding in" does not exist. Hunts now have to work within the law. It's a class war as hunting people wrongly are deemed as rich and privileged. The countryside has serious issue with people who were born in rural areas unable to afford to buy a home and rents are crazy. The countryside is a huge food factory and without meat,cereal and vegetables being produced we will need to import more and Brexit will push food costs up. Hunts do help with social supply and rural jobs. They help support feed murchants, vets, farriers and local pubs.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"So if no fox hunting with dogs, is ratting with terriers cruel? How about coursing hares? Rabbiting with dogs? Ferreting? Falconry?

Each of the above sports uses an animal that is basically weaponised to hunt a specific class of game or a particular animal as efficiently as nature intends.

Hunting with dogs is illegal no matter what they hunt. Ferrets don't catch rabbits they flush them into nets. Falconers do not use birds to hunt other animals.

Using dogs to hunt rats or rabbits is totally legal.

Falconers most certainly do hunt animals, especially using birds such as Harris Hawks (although to be pedantic, someone flying a hawk should rightly be called an austringer. "

Animal control with dogs ie rats and rabbits is not "hunting". It's pest control.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Look am not for it but if you wish to hunt you should able to do and how you wish .

Number will always need controlled as leaving the population unchecked only create more suffering for a large number of animals without apex predator controlling numbers.

The price of freedom.."

Why do it the most cruel way instead of more humain? It's because of the sickos "enjoyment"

The animals they predate are usually domestic animals heading to an abittoir or to be shot by toffs

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now.

Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world'

About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify.

The master of the hunt and his hunt servants still dress in red and do take part in the hunt.

Of course there can be no blooding in if there are only drag and trail hunts

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now.

Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world'

About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify.

The master of the hunt and his hunt servants still dress in red and do take part in the hunt.

Of course there can be no blooding in if there are only drag and trail hunts"

No red on hunts and no bloodung in.

You mean now when that's illegal or ever, the latter I have seen and was appalled by first hand, one of the, sickest things I have ever seen. Any arguments about supporting the local community are utter tosh to justify the vile sport.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If any animal needs to be culled due to over population, damage to livestock, crops etc.

It should be done cleanly & humanely by a expert marksman.

One shot one kill.

Not chased till it drops & the ripped apart by dogs owned by rich inbred twats who think they are better than the working man. "

There is no legally required test of marksmanship for anyone who wants to shoot live quarry. I have seen a fox shot at 50m with a .223 rifle. It broke the foxes back but didn't kill it. The fox was dispatched by the shooter cruelly stamping on it's neck. He no longer has a firearm certificate.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now.

Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world'

About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify.

The master of the hunt and his hunt servants still dress in red and do take part in the hunt.

Of course there can be no blooding in if there are only drag and trail hunts

No red on hunts and no bloodung in.

Hunting pink I think you will find is the colour and not all hunts wear this colour it's easier to count buttons to denote the people in charge. See there is alot more too it than just a pack of hounds and people on horse back.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *urious and openmindedCouple
over a year ago

under the sea

And so the block list grows

Every 1s entitled to an opinion (even if it is barbaric), but certainly doesn't meen its right to express it

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Law does nothing about it.

Saw a thing the other day something like

"if a gang of teenagers on bikes were chasing a fox with staffies the police would be all over it"

Sick blood sport. "

Good point.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *unloversCouple
over a year ago

rotherham

Why can’t foxes just be left alone

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ay rickMan
over a year ago

cardiff

Living in the country does give you a different perspective as I now live in city seeing how unhealthy these animals are....years ago most hunts caught nothing and it was a village tradition right or wrong it just happened!!...digging out n marking before just is beyond sick throwing to the pack dear god wtf uh..but my fav thing on all these are people oooooh I hate fox hunting...which I do now btw lol yet FISHING..which is as sick as it comes...hook rammed through mouth dragged around then either smashed over head..left to did or foooook me KISSED FFS THEN THROWN BACK!! Pms

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *an_LexaCouple
over a year ago

Sunderland

"I don't see the problem with hunting foxes with dogs and i never understood why it was banned. It's the most ecologically sound method of control.

There's humane methods though mate

Fox hunting is just sick

If you understand how the natural world works you'll see my point. Unfortunately i don't have time to go into it now.

Sorry a bunch of arrogant twats dressed in red is not what David Bellamy had in mind when he talked about the 'natural world'

About as much as a patronising statement you don't have time to qualify.

The master of the hunt and his hunt servants still dress in red and do take part in the hunt.

Of course there can be no blooding in if there are only drag and trail hunts

No red on hunts and no bloodung in.

It’s still scarlet. And yes I do know that some hunts wear other colours; green, mustard or whatever and I do know to count the buttons, how pathetic like working in mcDonalds and earning your stars. I just. Ever knew there was a Mcfox sandwich

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Hunting with dogs is still legal in Scotland.

The fox has to be despatched by a humane method though.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When you eat meat do you ever wonder where and how the animal is killed?

Have you considered how meat is produced cheaply?

Halal meat how is the animal killed? You will 100% eaten halal meat...

It's all relevant and before people who are not involved in farming and rural management start kicking off and calling people who ride to hounds toffs and people who shoot wealthy try engaging with them.

Comments that use name calling and stereotypes just proves most are against what they believe to be a wealthy persons past time.

Some of us do more for the environment than most and care passionately about the eco system in our amazing countryside and also hunt. Many species are on the rise because of the help of landowners such as birds of prey down to voles along with otters.

So don't make wild assumptions just because someone wears a smart hunt coat and rides a horse to hounds try to get under the skin of the people and why they love to spend time outside in the countryside.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a fan at all.

I think all methods of pest control need doing by professionals, not cunts on horses.

(closed, thread got too big)

Reply privately