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"It’ll never stop until humankind realise that religions and politicians are causing most of the problems not ordinary people" Ordinary people don't have religions?? Terrorism is politics | |||
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"Can you stop terrorism? Nope. Because even if you take out the examples based on religion or political motivation you'll still have the 'state sponsored' variety where governments fund/supply/enable various groups to further their own aims. Many of the world's terrorism problems have been created by the very countries they now affect. If governments didn't get involved in other countries affairs then modern terrorism wouldn't be quite the issue it is. A" Exactly! | |||
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"Yes... nato standard 5.56 or 7.62 usualy works. KC " That work in Northern Ireland didn’t it?!!! Unfortunately, the only people that can stop Political Terror, are those with the power to begin the problem to begin with. | |||
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"No. It's going to happen whatever you do because of individual differences unfortunately. And I'd also say no to the military on the streets. The best thing we can do is continue as normal, the terrorist win when we begin to live in a state of constant fear of everything. Domestic and foreign security services already do so much behind the scenes to stop events that could have happened which we'll never know about C" Isn't that why a concern in the deal there is the database missing that each government has access to.. And we won't it was raised in parliament.. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 02/01/19 10:37:41]" not surprised you removed it. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 02/01/19 10:37:41] not surprised you removed it. " Thats exactly why Read many books on terrorism Dropping ordinance from airplanes on countries is terrorism too. Does not mean I condone it | |||
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"Yes... nato standard 5.56 or 7.62 usualy works. KC That work in Northern Ireland didn’t it?!!! Unfortunately, the only people that can stop Political Terror, are those with the power to begin the problem to begin with. " Then why not actualy use the UN modle more then? Didnt that work in bosnia? Or seirria lione? Do you honestly think that its the selfseving pollititions who will stand up to them or the good men who are willing to do bad things and put themselves in harms way so others can sleep easy? Any act of terrorism should always be met with the appropreate amount of force, and only if dialoge has failed. Just my opinion though KC | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 02/01/19 10:37:41] not surprised you removed it. " Read confessions of a economic hitman | |||
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"No. It's going to happen whatever you do because of individual differences unfortunately. And I'd also say no to the military on the streets. The best thing we can do is continue as normal, the terrorist win when we begin to live in a state of constant fear of everything. Domestic and foreign security services already do so much behind the scenes to stop events that could have happened which we'll never know about C Isn't that why a concern in the deal there is the database missing that each government has access to.. And we won't it was raised in parliament.. " The UK already is, and still will be, a member of the Five Eyes - a cooperative intelligence network between the UK, USA, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. That combined with organisations like NATO and Interpol, and I don't believe that our security and intelligence will take a huge hit. C | |||
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"I dont think you can totally stop it, but reduce the chances, there have been few attacks over the new year, in manchester and in germany. Is introducing the military like they have in france a good option? When I was in paris train station you saw them walking openly with machine guns." As the much heralded Sadiq Khan says terrorism is “part and parcel” of living in a major city All while 2 people were killed only a few hours into the new year, knife crime is at a record high and avid attacks are a common occurrence, out friend Sadiq is spending £3million on a firework display to show some support for a fascist political union The man should hang his head in shame | |||
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"War on terrorist..what does war create? Terror...this makes terrorism. Therefore its a war on the consequences of the actions you are involved in. It's all one vicious cycle. Can it be stopped completely? In theory yes, stop going around playing "who's got the biggest stick" and poking people based on religion, colour or creed, stop wars, stop causing problems where because another country is different to ours it's not a case of invade and push our beliefs on them, it's not about going in to save 1 cent on a gallon of oil. Whether it's the IRA or ETA or ISIS, it can all be tracked back to one country throwing its weight around where it quite frankly wasn't wanted/needed or appreciated. We live in a world where there is more than enough land to put people peacefully, separate from indifference and in harmony. But as always there are those which create terror, create fear for personal gains. So yes in theory it is possible, will it happen? Again possible but only once everyone starts working together rather than pushing each other apart which seems to go against the fundamental workings of mankind in general. " Love it x | |||
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"Terrorist = Freedom Fighter Freedom Fighter = Terrorist Dialogue is the answer. " No it's not. So dialogue with ISIS for example? What would you offer them? Half of Spain? (which they want) If you gave in to every demand by every terrorist organisation the only result would be new groups demanding more. You cannot talk to these people only defeat them. | |||
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"I've never quite understood the distinction that gets made by people when ideology is the driving force behind crime. To differentiate between terrorism and other crime is to legitimise the terrorist. It's crime and they are criminals. Pure and simple. " Except that to some one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Brings me back to my point on state sponsored terrorism. Look at Afghanistan. Who did the USA fund, train and support when they were fighting the Russians? Move on a few years and who were the USA fighting? It's the same in the middle east and Africa. One country thousands of miles away exerting it's influence, spending it's tax money and supporting a side based on personal interest, rather than that of the population of said country. Whether it's oil, other natural resources, or simply the fact that the ruling power is more friendly with a traditional enemy - foreign interference is the primary cause of terrorism in so many instances. A | |||
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"I've never quite understood the distinction that gets made by people when ideology is the driving force behind crime. To differentiate between terrorism and other crime is to legitimise the terrorist. It's crime and they are criminals. Pure and simple. Except that to some one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Brings me back to my point on state sponsored terrorism. Look at Afghanistan. Who did the USA fund, train and support when they were fighting the Russians? Move on a few years and who were the USA fighting? It's the same in the middle east and Africa. One country thousands of miles away exerting it's influence, spending it's tax money and supporting a side based on personal interest, rather than that of the population of said country. Whether it's oil, other natural resources, or simply the fact that the ruling power is more friendly with a traditional enemy - foreign interference is the primary cause of terrorism in so many instances. A" I agree. America is the biggest terrorist in the world imo | |||
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"I've never quite understood the distinction that gets made by people when ideology is the driving force behind crime. To differentiate between terrorism and other crime is to legitimise the terrorist. It's crime and they are criminals. Pure and simple. Except that to some one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Brings me back to my point on state sponsored terrorism. Look at Afghanistan. Who did the USA fund, train and support when they were fighting the Russians? Move on a few years and who were the USA fighting? It's the same in the middle east and Africa. One country thousands of miles away exerting it's influence, spending it's tax money and supporting a side based on personal interest, rather than that of the population of said country. Whether it's oil, other natural resources, or simply the fact that the ruling power is more friendly with a traditional enemy - foreign interference is the primary cause of terrorism in so many instances. A I agree. America is the biggest terrorist in the world imo" | |||
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"One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Say for instance the U.K. was invaded and groups of citizens decided to fight back. To the invader these would be terrorists but to some citizens these would be freedom fighters. " Can you think of a circumstance outside of a declaration of war between states, in which it is legal to target and kill the civilian population? These people are murderers, to call them otherwise lends legitimacy to their methods. | |||
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"One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Say for instance the U.K. was invaded and groups of citizens decided to fight back. To the invader these would be terrorists but to some citizens these would be freedom fighters. Can you think of a circumstance outside of a declaration of war between states, in which it is legal to target and kill the civilian population? These people are murderers, to call them otherwise lends legitimacy to their methods. " It could be argued many western countries have done just that whilst bombing middle Eastern countries over the past two decades. I don't recall a declaration of war between the UK and Syria. Terrorists that kill civilians are abhorrent. Are governments that bomb countries killing civilians in support of one side in a domestic arguement really any different? A | |||
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"I dont think you can totally stop it, but reduce the chances, there have been few attacks over the new year, in manchester and in germany. Is introducing the military like they have in france a good option? When I was in paris train station you saw them walking openly with machine guns." Terrorist or Freedom fighter only point of view.. Our government has been one of the largest sources of terror around the world in the name of peace we are only getting some back. | |||
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"I dont think you can totally stop it, but reduce the chances, there have been few attacks over the new year, in manchester and in germany. Is introducing the military like they have in france a good option? When I was in paris train station you saw them walking openly with machine guns." I don't think so. Every time I see them I think what an easy target they are, and a ready source of better weapons. | |||
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"There will always be those who feel that bombs guns and stabings are the way to go. Todays terroist becones tomorrows friends. Even if all reglion was banned there would be those who want to hurt just because." Religion has a way of making good people do very bad things though. You think without religion Jews would have had 6 million of their people killed? Think Ireland would see hate just because someone is a different type of Christian. Think we would have have had 9:11? Crusades? Spanish Inquisition? Slavery as it’s confined by the bible?? Yes, we still will have nutters like peter sutcliffe but even he thought Jesus wanted him to kill prostitutes. Oops you started me off!!! Lol | |||
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"One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Say for instance the U.K. was invaded and groups of citizens decided to fight back. To the invader these would be terrorists but to some citizens these would be freedom fighters. Can you think of a circumstance outside of a declaration of war between states, in which it is legal to target and kill the civilian population? These people are murderers, to call them otherwise lends legitimacy to their methods. " Have you heard about Ballymurphy? Read about it and by your explanation, that makes the Paras a terror group. I'm a ex soldier of 21 years by the way | |||
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"Terrorist = Freedom Fighter Freedom Fighter = Terrorist Dialogue is the answer. No it's not. So dialogue with ISIS for example? What would you offer them? Half of Spain? (which they want) If you gave in to every demand by every terrorist organisation the only result would be new groups demanding more. You cannot talk to these people only defeat them." Can you really defeat them. Kill the head guy, another one takes its place. This time the new head guy has more hatred for his foe than the last one did, so he puts into place bigger attacks. Do I know the answer not really. | |||
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"Can be reduced. Only one type of religion causes terrorism. I'm not going to state any further as I'm sure I will get labeled racist if any further" Is it Trumpism? Because historically the USA has been as responsible as any Abrahamic religion.... A | |||
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"Imagine all the people Living life in peace Nothing to kill or die for No religion too.... Some may say I'm a dreamer Hope I'm not the only one...." No but we all can't go around smoking and dropping Acid | |||
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"At the end of the day terrorists are armed with western weapons " You mean like AK 47's | |||
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"Terrorist = Freedom Fighter Freedom Fighter = Terrorist Dialogue is the answer. No it's not. So dialogue with ISIS for example? What would you offer them? Half of Spain? (which they want) If you gave in to every demand by every terrorist organisation the only result would be new groups demanding more. You cannot talk to these people only defeat them. Can you really defeat them. Kill the head guy, another one takes its place. This time the new head guy has more hatred for his foe than the last one did, so he puts into place bigger attacks. Do I know the answer not really." Yes you can defeat them. However the methods would cause uproar. | |||
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"I also want to draw attention to what is happening to the christians living in nigeria over 60000 have died. I wonder why that doesnt get covered in the news? " Blacks killing blacks: who cares, that's why. | |||
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"I also want to draw attention to what is happening to the christians living in nigeria over 60000 have died. I wonder why that doesnt get covered in the news? Blacks killing blacks: who cares, that's why." That is right and this radical muslim group that is called boko haram have been doing it since 2001, nigeria is divided as north and south where the christians is in the south, there are not many left. | |||
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"Can you stop terrorism? Nope. Because even if you take out the examples based on religion or political motivation you'll still have the 'state sponsored' variety where governments fund/supply/enable various groups to further their own aims. Many of the world's terrorism problems have been created by the very countries they now affect. If governments didn't get involved in other countries affairs then modern terrorism wouldn't be quite the issue it is. A" Almost what I was about to say. One way to stop terrorism, or to reduce it. Is to shut down govs. But then, people would be more afraid of a gov shutting down than terrorist attacks. | |||
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"At the end of the day terrorists are armed with western weapons You mean like AK 47's " What’s wrong with AK? Quite a few private companies used AK as well. Easy access, cheap, easy to maintain. | |||
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"I dont think you can totally stop it, but reduce the chances, there have been few attacks over the new year, in manchester and in germany. Is introducing the military like they have in france a good option? When I was in paris train station you saw them walking openly with machine guns." Lisbon treaty comes into affect in 2020/2022...any country in the eu..vitos its right to leave and its right to be called a nation. ...so England wont exist. ...how many people that stand up we be labeled ..a terrorist. ?? Lisbon treaty..Please look it up.. | |||
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"Will only stop if you ban religion. We enforced Christianity upon the rest of the world using force and now it’s come back to bite us." Christianity + democracy to be precise | |||
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"YES!! Call it something else! That is right." What do you want to call terrorists instead.Freedom fighters. ..If so what freedom do the guys in NZ seek??? | |||
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"Will only stop if you ban religion. We enforced Christianity upon the rest of the world using force and now it’s come back to bite us. Christianity + democracy to be precise" Democracy doesn’t exist in the U.K. If it did we would be leaving the EU on 29th. | |||
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"Will only stop if you ban religion. We enforced Christianity upon the rest of the world using force and now it’s come back to bite us. Christianity + democracy to be precise Democracy doesn’t exist in the U.K. If it did we would be leaving the EU on 29th. " Sorry, I should have made it clear that I wasn’t pointing my fingers at UK | |||
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"YES!! Call it something else! That is right. What do you want to call terrorists instead.Freedom fighters. ..If so what freedom do the guys in NZ seek???" Nz is a blanket so the news ain't about other things happening. .its sad ..but 50 people died in last two weeks in road accidents in uk . .not reported...and 17.4 got stabbed in the back | |||
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"YES!! Call it something else! That is right. What do you want to call terrorists instead.Freedom fighters. ..If so what freedom do the guys in NZ seek???" Is that what you thought I meant? | |||
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"I dont think you can totally stop it, but reduce the chances, there have been few attacks over the new year, in manchester and in germany. Is introducing the military like they have in france a good option? When I was in paris train station you saw them walking openly with machine guns." theyv still have terrorist attacks there. did having British soldiers on the streets of Londonderry? Armagh etc stop or deter attacks then? | |||
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"Not until politics, philosophy and society evolve a bit more will we find peace. Realise there's more than enough of everything to go round. Sadly I think Aliens are more likely to arrive and be the uniting factor of humanity instead. To many stupid fundamentalists for it to happen any time soon." I think a good Alien invasion who will end up in slaving us and reunite us in a worldwide fight back using terror, the only downside to that is that you know some lefty SJW SNOWFLAKE will start a #AlienMeToo movement and start protesting outside with equality for Alien banners. | |||
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