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Ghosts ! Real or not ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

No judgements here do u believe in ghosts or have had an a paranormal experience ? Or just interested in the subject ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

No I don't believe in them

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not."

Any particular reason why u dont ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh definitely.

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By *ndyuk7Man
over a year ago

newcastle upon tyne

im a ghost as nobody messages me

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By *aven RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I do x

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By *taffs_hotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

No such thing. Completely fictional like werewolves and vampires imo.

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

It's a yes from me.

Ooh who said that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So any of u believers had any paranormal experiences ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nooooo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you talking about the one on coronation street.... With Dev and co.... That was hilarious!! made me believe in ghosts!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. If it helps you deal with loss to believe in them then great though.

However, there is a special rung in hell for those twisted sociopaths who claim they can chat to your dead relatives and charge you for the privilege. Or, psychic mediums as they're called.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Not.

Any particular reason why u dont ? "

Yes because all of the evidence points to them being a human construct

And zero credible data to suggest any of the human invented ghost myths are even plausible let alone real

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you believe OP?

Heard of the stone tape theory?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No. If it helps you deal with loss to believe in them then great though.

However, there is a special rung in hell for those twisted sociopaths who claim they can chat to your dead relatives and charge you for the privilege. Or, psychic mediums as they're called.

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There is alot of fakes out there with the aim to con people out of money but thats not what this is about to be honest im not asking about psychics or mediums but i totally agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been ghosted...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No. If it helps you deal with loss to believe in them then great though.

However, there is a special rung in hell for those twisted sociopaths who claim they can chat to your dead relatives and charge you for the privilege. Or, psychic mediums as they're called.

"

I think the decision is to deep to slightly touch and discuss here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ghost disobey Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity so no they don't exist

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

I don’t believe in them. But I think we are all haunted houses.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

No I don't believe in ghosts.

Do you O.P. ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not.

Any particular reason why u dont ?

Yes because all of the evidence points to them being a human construct

And zero credible data to suggest any of the human invented ghost myths are even plausible let alone real "

Ooo- I said that without even opening my mouth!

Only more eloquently!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Do you believe OP?

Heard of the stone tape theory? "

Yes i do believe and no not heard of that one, i recently last year got into doing paranormal investigations with a couple of friends and i love doing it x

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I don’t believe in them. But I think we are all haunted houses. "

So deep Vine. So deep.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Do you believe OP?

Heard of the stone tape theory?

Yes i do believe and no not heard of that one, i recently last year got into doing paranormal investigations with a couple of friends and i love doing it x"

The fun is in doing the investigation. There has yet to be an investigation that proves the existence of ghosts.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Not.

Any particular reason why u dont ?

Yes because all of the evidence points to them being a human construct

And zero credible data to suggest any of the human invented ghost myths are even plausible let alone real

Ooo- I said that without even opening my mouth!

Only more eloquently!"

Thats fair enough i respect ur opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you believe OP?

Heard of the stone tape theory?

Yes i do believe and no not heard of that one, i recently last year got into doing paranormal investigations with a couple of friends and i love doing it x"

Ghosts as into figures or are we talking energy here?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I'm more interested in why you believe in ghosts.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

had the willies put up me a few times

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen


"So any of u believers had any paranormal experiences ? "

Not here, there is not the slightest bit of evidence for ghosts, gods or anything else of a similar nature. The great Carl Sagan put things better than I can!

"A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage"

Suppose I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity!

"Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle -- but no dragon.

"Where's the dragon?" you ask.

"Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that she's an invisible dragon."

You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's footprints.

"Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floats in the air."

Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire.

"Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless."

You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible.

"Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick." And so on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why it won't work.

Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to disprove my contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do comes down to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so. The only thing you've really learned from my insistence that there's a dragon in my garage is that something funny is going on inside my head. You'd wonder, if no physical tests apply, what convinced me. The possibility that it was a dream or a hallucination would certainly enter your mind. But then, why am I taking it so seriously? Maybe I need help. At the least, maybe I've seriously underestimated human fallibility. Imagine that, despite none of the tests being successful, you wish to be scrupulously open-minded. So you don't outright reject the notion that there's a fire-breathing dragon in my garage. You merely put it on hold. Present evidence is strongly against it, but if a new body of data emerge you're prepared to examine it and see if it convinces you. Surely it's unfair of me to be offended at not being believed; or to criticize you for being stodgy and unimaginative -- merely because you rendered the Scottish verdict of "not proved."

Imagine that things had gone otherwise. The dragon is invisible, all right, but footprints are being made in the flour as you watch. Your infrared detector reads off-scale. The spray paint reveals a jagged crest bobbing in the air before you. No matter how skeptical you might have been about the existence of dragons -- to say nothing about invisible ones -- you must now acknowledge that there's something here, and that in a preliminary way it's consistent with an invisible, fire-breathing dragon.

Now another scenario: Suppose it's not just me. Suppose that several people of your acquaintance, including people who you're pretty sure don't know each other, all tell you that they have dragons in their garages -- but in every case the evidence is maddeningly elusive. All of us admit we're disturbed at being gripped by so odd a conviction so ill-supported by the physical evidence. None of us is a lunatic. We speculate about what it would mean if invisible dragons were really hiding out in garages all over the world, with us humans just catching on. I'd rather it not be true, I tell you. But maybe all those ancient European and Chinese myths about dragons weren't myths at all.

Gratifyingly, some dragon-size footprints in the flour are now reported. But they're never made when a skeptic is looking. An alternative explanation presents itself. On close examination it seems clear that the footprints could have been faked. Another dragon enthusiast shows up with a burnt finger and attributes it to a rare physical manifestation of the dragon's fiery breath. But again, other possibilities exist. We understand that there are other ways to burn fingers besides the breath of invisible dragons. Such "evidence" -- no matter how important the dragon advocates consider it -- is far from compelling. Once again, the only sensible approach is tentatively to reject the dragon hypothesis, to be open to future physical data, and to wonder what the cause might be that so many apparently sane and sober people share the same strange delusion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Do you believe OP?

Heard of the stone tape theory?

Yes i do believe and no not heard of that one, i recently last year got into doing paranormal investigations with a couple of friends and i love doing it x

The fun is in doing the investigation. There has yet to be an investigation that proves the existence of ghosts. "

Thats fine if thats ur opinion i just love the whole subject and think its so interesting with all the different theories and the science behind them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there;s very little good evidence for ghosts/the paranormal and lots of evidence that people believe in unsubstanciated nonsence and that some folk will make a living bilking the needy/gullable so no, I don't belive in such things. Indeed using the word believe gives a clue. Do people believe in gravity, air, smartphones, wierd quantum effects or a nice, hot cup of tea?

Mike xx

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So any of u believers had any paranormal experiences ?

Not here, there is not the slightest bit of evidence for ghosts, gods or anything else of a similar nature. The great Carl Sagan put things better than I can!

"A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage"

Suppose I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity!

"Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle -- but no dragon.

"Where's the dragon?" you ask.

"Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that she's an invisible dragon."

You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's footprints.

"Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floats in the air."

Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire.

"Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless."

You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible.

"Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick." And so on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why it won't work.

Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to disprove my contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do comes down to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so. The only thing you've really learned from my insistence that there's a dragon in my garage is that something funny is going on inside my head. You'd wonder, if no physical tests apply, what convinced me. The possibility that it was a dream or a hallucination would certainly enter your mind. But then, why am I taking it so seriously? Maybe I need help. At the least, maybe I've seriously underestimated human fallibility. Imagine that, despite none of the tests being successful, you wish to be scrupulously open-minded. So you don't outright reject the notion that there's a fire-breathing dragon in my garage. You merely put it on hold. Present evidence is strongly against it, but if a new body of data emerge you're prepared to examine it and see if it convinces you. Surely it's unfair of me to be offended at not being believed; or to criticize you for being stodgy and unimaginative -- merely because you rendered the Scottish verdict of "not proved."

Imagine that things had gone otherwise. The dragon is invisible, all right, but footprints are being made in the flour as you watch. Your infrared detector reads off-scale. The spray paint reveals a jagged crest bobbing in the air before you. No matter how skeptical you might have been about the existence of dragons -- to say nothing about invisible ones -- you must now acknowledge that there's something here, and that in a preliminary way it's consistent with an invisible, fire-breathing dragon.

Now another scenario: Suppose it's not just me. Suppose that several people of your acquaintance, including people who you're pretty sure don't know each other, all tell you that they have dragons in their garages -- but in every case the evidence is maddeningly elusive. All of us admit we're disturbed at being gripped by so odd a conviction so ill-supported by the physical evidence. None of us is a lunatic. We speculate about what it would mean if invisible dragons were really hiding out in garages all over the world, with us humans just catching on. I'd rather it not be true, I tell you. But maybe all those ancient European and Chinese myths about dragons weren't myths at all.

Gratifyingly, some dragon-size footprints in the flour are now reported. But they're never made when a skeptic is looking. An alternative explanation presents itself. On close examination it seems clear that the footprints could have been faked. Another dragon enthusiast shows up with a burnt finger and attributes it to a rare physical manifestation of the dragon's fiery breath. But again, other possibilities exist. We understand that there are other ways to burn fingers besides the breath of invisible dragons. Such "evidence" -- no matter how important the dragon advocates consider it -- is far from compelling. Once again, the only sensible approach is tentatively to reject the dragon hypothesis, to be open to future physical data, and to wonder what the cause might be that so many apparently sane and sober people share the same strange delusion.

"

The definition of a paranormal experience is an experience that no one can explain so its a personal thing to that person, so in my opinion i would never says it true or a lie if that person believes it then thats their personal choice

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

It's not my opinion. It's a FACT i'm giving you.

There's a chasm of difference ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"had the willies put up me a few times"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Do you believe OP?

Heard of the stone tape theory?

Yes i do believe and no not heard of that one, i recently last year got into doing paranormal investigations with a couple of friends and i love doing it x

Ghosts as into figures or are we talking energy here? "

Me personally i tend to go towards it being residual energy x

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"So any of u believers had any paranormal experiences ?

Not here, there is not the slightest bit of evidence for ghosts, gods or anything else of a similar nature. The great Carl Sagan put things better than I can!

"A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage"

Suppose I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity!

"Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle -- but no dragon.

"Where's the dragon?" you ask.

"Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that she's an invisible dragon."

You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's footprints.

"Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floats in the air."

Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire.

"Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless."

You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible.

"Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick." And so on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why it won't work.

Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to disprove my contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do comes down to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so. The only thing you've really learned from my insistence that there's a dragon in my garage is that something funny is going on inside my head. You'd wonder, if no physical tests apply, what convinced me. The possibility that it was a dream or a hallucination would certainly enter your mind. But then, why am I taking it so seriously? Maybe I need help. At the least, maybe I've seriously underestimated human fallibility. Imagine that, despite none of the tests being successful, you wish to be scrupulously open-minded. So you don't outright reject the notion that there's a fire-breathing dragon in my garage. You merely put it on hold. Present evidence is strongly against it, but if a new body of data emerge you're prepared to examine it and see if it convinces you. Surely it's unfair of me to be offended at not being believed; or to criticize you for being stodgy and unimaginative -- merely because you rendered the Scottish verdict of "not proved."

Imagine that things had gone otherwise. The dragon is invisible, all right, but footprints are being made in the flour as you watch. Your infrared detector reads off-scale. The spray paint reveals a jagged crest bobbing in the air before you. No matter how skeptical you might have been about the existence of dragons -- to say nothing about invisible ones -- you must now acknowledge that there's something here, and that in a preliminary way it's consistent with an invisible, fire-breathing dragon.

Now another scenario: Suppose it's not just me. Suppose that several people of your acquaintance, including people who you're pretty sure don't know each other, all tell you that they have dragons in their garages -- but in every case the evidence is maddeningly elusive. All of us admit we're disturbed at being gripped by so odd a conviction so ill-supported by the physical evidence. None of us is a lunatic. We speculate about what it would mean if invisible dragons were really hiding out in garages all over the world, with us humans just catching on. I'd rather it not be true, I tell you. But maybe all those ancient European and Chinese myths about dragons weren't myths at all.

Gratifyingly, some dragon-size footprints in the flour are now reported. But they're never made when a skeptic is looking. An alternative explanation presents itself. On close examination it seems clear that the footprints could have been faked. Another dragon enthusiast shows up with a burnt finger and attributes it to a rare physical manifestation of the dragon's fiery breath. But again, other possibilities exist. We understand that there are other ways to burn fingers besides the breath of invisible dragons. Such "evidence" -- no matter how important the dragon advocates consider it -- is far from compelling. Once again, the only sensible approach is tentatively to reject the dragon hypothesis, to be open to future physical data, and to wonder what the cause might be that so many apparently sane and sober people share the same strange delusion.

The definition of a paranormal experience is an experience that no one can explain so its a personal thing to that person, so in my opinion i would never says it true or a lie if that person believes it then thats their personal choice "

Simply believing something doesn't make it true. That was the basic thought behind the Sagan post.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Im not gonna argue with anyone on the subject im just giving an opinion and what my thoughts are on the subjects if u want to argue please do it on another thread

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

O.P. It's nice to say 'well if that's what you think' to people.

Of course we should respect the thoughts of others ...... e.g children who believe in Father Christmas and Fairies...

We don't jump on them and enjoy heaping mis- proof upon them. We allow them their belief for as long as we consider it harmless to them.

It's a slightly different approach for adults who are grown and to all intents and purposes sane and logical.

Imagine that I invent a new type of currency. It hovers behind the shop counters giving off a glowing light sometimes. On occassion the shop keeper thinks she glimpsed it but she can't be sure.

If I say I opened my purse and my new currency ( which I deem spendable and you can't disallow me my belief ) floated into the shop owners till, does she have to accept that i've paid ?

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"No judgements here do u believe in ghosts or have had an a paranormal experience ? Or just interested in the subject ? "

Interested but sceptical.

My opinion is that ghosts don't exist objectively, but that people can still have experiences.

Perhaps low frequency vibration causing stimulation to the brain, which is perceived as ghosts etc?

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

It doesn't matter to me if they are real or not.

If they are real, then it means my ancestors live on. I live where my ancestors lived so what can they do to me?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No judgements here do u believe in ghosts or have had an a paranormal experience ? Or just interested in the subject ?

Interested but sceptical.

My opinion is that ghosts don't exist objectively, but that people can still have experiences.

Perhaps low frequency vibration causing stimulation to the brain, which is perceived as ghosts etc? "

Thats definetly a good theory, i believe most of the time its a thing called residual energy its like a sort of echo if u like

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It doesn't matter to me if they are real or not.

If they are real, then it means my ancestors live on. I live where my ancestors lived so what can they do to me?

"

Your ancestors are the planets and stars my friend. We are all protons neutrons electrons

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It doesn't matter to me if they are real or not.

If they are real, then it means my ancestors live on. I live where my ancestors lived so what can they do to me?

"

Thats a very good point of view and a nice way to look at it

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

No I don’t , never seen one , never felt the presence of one so that’s enough evidence for me .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t want to see a ghost

It’s a sight that I fear most

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So any of u believers had any paranormal experiences ? "

I believe and yes, several

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I saw one with my eyes when I was a child we both saw it me and my mother was fucking freaky.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So any of u believers had any paranormal experiences ?

I believe and yes, several"

Feel free to inbox me them if u dont want to put them on here would love to hear about them

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don’t want to see a ghost

It’s a sight that I fear most"

Fair enough lol

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By *pmsldCouple
over a year ago

kettering

Its a no from us, neither of us are religious or spiritual, if it helps or fascinates you then carry on.

I have played airsoft at the Gaol events airsoft site in oakham (old ashwell prision) they also host some paranormal type events but all the times ive been sneaking around the pitch black cell blocks alone ive never noticed any ghosts.

Also play at Drake low tunnels,they host paranormal tours quite regular and again we sneak around in the dark quietly and never notice anything.

Would have thought if they were truely haunted we would have come accross something by now while playing

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By *rK MrsJCouple
over a year ago

Kidderminster

Yes and had some experiences

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No evidence for them but who knows.

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By *ackD9Man
over a year ago

shropshire

I would think that if ghosts existed, there would be undeniable proof considering the number of cameras on the planet now... Therefore, I do not believe!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So any of u believers had any paranormal experiences ? "

Massive YES from me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I don't believe in ghosts, but I believe that others do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love ghost stories and the like and definitely have felt spooked out in places with a few bumps in the night. There is an awful lot of rubbish surrounding it though such as that awful tv programme with the Blue Peter woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some ghosts are real....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definitely real have you never seen Ghostbusters??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why are there no caveman ghosts? No dinosaur ghosts? They're almost always humans from the Victorian era.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

I believe in them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plenty of ghosts out there. Will be in contact one minute, middle of a fairly good convo and then all of a sudden they are gone! Never to contact you again...

But in all seriousness, no I don't. I like the idea of the whole paranormal/supernatural fantasy and would love it to be real.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t want to see a ghost

It’s a sight that I fear most"

Can't believe noone suggested toast.

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Real to those who see them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Real

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yip i do. Had an experience many years ago where heard foot steps which could not be explained.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Real and seen 3

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, they give me the willies

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I love ghost stories and the like and definitely have felt spooked out in places with a few bumps in the night. There is an awful lot of rubbish surrounding it though such as that awful tv programme with the Blue Peter woman "

Most Haunted was a good programme when it first started but they never moved on with times and the technology thats available now but thats only my opinion x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Feel free the tell us about ur experiences or inbox them if u want to i love to hear them all

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Surely fab ladies all love being given the willies in the middle of the night

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love ghost stories and the like and definitely have felt spooked out in places with a few bumps in the night. There is an awful lot of rubbish surrounding it though such as that awful tv programme with the Blue Peter woman "

The power of your own mind. The more creative your imagination, the more it can lead you astray..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love ghost stories and the like and definitely have felt spooked out in places with a few bumps in the night. There is an awful lot of rubbish surrounding it though such as that awful tv programme with the Blue Peter woman

Most Haunted was a good programme when it first started but they never moved on with times and the technology thats available now but thats only my opinion x "

Im not so keen on all the technology stuff, takes away from it somehow. Ghosts and spirits aren't about the science but something else (imagination for the cynic in me ) I like the story and then to just build myself up into a terrified panic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love ghost stories and the like and definitely have felt spooked out in places with a few bumps in the night. There is an awful lot of rubbish surrounding it though such as that awful tv programme with the Blue Peter woman

The power of your own mind. The more creative your imagination, the more it can lead you astray.."

Absolutely. And once it starts running away with you the ghosts have got you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no evidence of ghosts

They are 100 percent people's imagination.

Science can explain and measure things.

There is no plausible explanation

It's like religion and god. After life believers are usually religious

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire


"There is no evidence of ghosts

They are 100 percent people's imagination.

Science can explain and measure things.

There is no plausible explanation

It's like religion and god. After life believers are usually religious "

Each to their own I guess, I’m not telling you what to believe or not. But as I mentioned for those who have seen or experienced this phenomenon they are very real. That includes my own experience

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is no evidence of ghosts

They are 100 percent people's imagination.

Science can explain and measure things.

There is no plausible explanation

It's like religion and god. After life believers are usually religious "

Glad you got the 'usually' in there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love ghost stories and the like and definitely have felt spooked out in places with a few bumps in the night. There is an awful lot of rubbish surrounding it though such as that awful tv programme with the Blue Peter woman

The power of your own mind. The more creative your imagination, the more it can lead you astray..

Absolutely. And once it starts running away with you the ghosts have got you. "

And the ghoulies too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is no evidence of ghosts

They are 100 percent people's imagination.

Science can explain and measure things.

There is no plausible explanation

It's like religion and god. After life believers are usually religious

Each to their own I guess, I’m not telling you what to believe or not. But as I mentioned for those who have seen or experienced this phenomenon they are very real. That includes my own experience"

Science doesn't take into account what people "believe"

Science only uses facts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is no evidence of ghosts

They are 100 percent people's imagination.

Science can explain and measure things.

There is no plausible explanation

It's like religion and god. After life believers are usually religious "

Science can limit us as much as it can advance us. We aren't as clever as we like to think. After life and ghosts aren't the same thing.

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By *elloIntrigueMan
over a year ago

North West UK

Interested and had a couple of experiences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

100%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is no evidence of ghosts

They are 100 percent people's imagination.

Science can explain and measure things.

There is no plausible explanation

It's like religion and god. After life believers are usually religious

Science can limit us as much as it can advance us. We aren't as clever as we like to think. After life and ghosts aren't the same thing."

Obviously not if you think ghosts are floating around

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?"

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

But my opinions comes from what iv seen and experienced while doing paranormal investigation with my team

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel "

If it's an energy it can be measured

This is real life not ghostbusters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I’ve seen a couple and one lives with me and has followed me when I move the cheeky bugger haha!! I seen poltergeist at primary school and a lot of people seen it too! That was coming down a corridor chucking bags and coats everywhere!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes I’ve seen a couple and one lives with me and has followed me when I move the cheeky bugger haha!! I seen poltergeist at primary school and a lot of people seen it too! That was coming down a corridor chucking bags and coats everywhere! "

Awesome story

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

If it's an energy it can be measured

This is real life not ghostbusters "

We do measure it they give off electric fields that can be measured and by drops in temperature

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By *elloIntrigueMan
over a year ago

North West UK


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

If it's an energy it can be measured

This is real life not ghostbusters

We do measure it they give off electric fields that can be measured and by drops in temperature "

I doubt you'll ever convince someone who isn't interested or doesn't believe, or doesn't want too... it's like Brexit.. haha

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By *r-and-Mrs-StargazerCouple
over a year ago

West Scotland

I once asked a vicar about the existence of the paranormal and he said to me that he prays to the Holy Ghost each day so how can he say they don’t exist. He also added that he was a qualified exorcist and had real reason to believe.

I concur that it is probably residue energy. I have seen a few what I believe to be ghosts but one time I was sharing a room with my step brother. I thought he was asleep until he told me not to look at the ghost, he could see it to!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I once asked a vicar about the existence of the paranormal and he said to me that he prays to the Holy Ghost each day so how can he say they don’t exist. He also added that he was a qualified exorcist and had real reason to believe.

I concur that it is probably residue energy. I have seen a few what I believe to be ghosts but one time I was sharing a room with my step brother. I thought he was asleep until he told me not to look at the ghost, he could see it to!! "

Nice one thanks for ur story

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I base my "belief" on what I've seen for myself

A couple in my home - intelligent haunting

A man in mum's house

Mrs Lovely

Whatever the fuck it was at Fountains Abbey

Abbeydale picture house

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I base my "belief" on what I've seen for myself

A couple in my home - intelligent haunting

A man in mum's house

Mrs Lovely

Whatever the fuck it was at Fountains Abbey

Abbeydale picture house "

Nice one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is no evidence of ghosts

They are 100 percent people's imagination.

Science can explain and measure things.

There is no plausible explanation

It's like religion and god. After life believers are usually religious

Each to their own I guess, I’m not telling you what to believe or not. But as I mentioned for those who have seen or experienced this phenomenon they are very real. That includes my own experience

Science doesn't take into account what people "believe"

Science only uses facts "

Does it?

So no scientific advances and disvoveries have been made on what someone believed? Only on facts?

If only Galileo, Darwin, Wegener as well as a whole host of other scientists and pioneers knew that.....

I’d assume a fact would become so, only after someone had the belief to pursue the discovery?

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I have been in some very strange places in my life at all hours. Yet to see anything. I even went on a few Ghost hunts in MK and Salcey Forest. Other than get bored of the guides stories saw nothing.

For me it’s a big non believer. It would be so much fun if they did.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been interested since I was a kid. There was a program on TV in the 90's called Ghostwatch which was made to look like a documentary. It had Sarah Green and Michael Parkinson on it. I watched that and scared the sh1t out myself for Months. More recently I've been on a couple of ghost hunts near to where I live. Never seen or heard anything, but I remain open minded and really interested in it all.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I've been interested since I was a kid. There was a program on TV in the 90's called Ghostwatch which was made to look like a documentary. It had Sarah Green and Michael Parkinson on it. I watched that and scared the sh1t out myself for Months. More recently I've been on a couple of ghost hunts near to where I live. Never seen or heard anything, but I remain open minded and really interested in it all. "

Iv been lucky that northamptonshire and leicestershire areas have so many sightings and stories and iv seen and heard quite alot of stuff during investigations keep going with ur interest mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a program called Scooby Doo and they did ghost hunting. Every time it turned out to be some old guy with a sheet over them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

If it's an energy it can be measured

This is real life not ghostbusters "

So do you think we have discovered every science and technology that can possibly be discovered, and there is nothing else waiting to be discovered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been interested since I was a kid. There was a program on TV in the 90's called Ghostwatch which was made to look like a documentary. It had Sarah Green and Michael Parkinson on it. I watched that and scared the sh1t out myself for Months. More recently I've been on a couple of ghost hunts near to where I live. Never seen or heard anything, but I remain open minded and really interested in it all.

Iv been lucky that northamptonshire and leicestershire areas have so many sightings and stories and iv seen and heard quite alot of stuff during investigations keep going with ur interest mate "

There are some really good sites in Lincs too. Lots of old RAF bases from WW2 and the areas around the cathedral are really interesting.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I've been interested since I was a kid. There was a program on TV in the 90's called Ghostwatch which was made to look like a documentary. It had Sarah Green and Michael Parkinson on it. I watched that and scared the sh1t out myself for Months. More recently I've been on a couple of ghost hunts near to where I live. Never seen or heard anything, but I remain open minded and really interested in it all.

Iv been lucky that northamptonshire and leicestershire areas have so many sightings and stories and iv seen and heard quite alot of stuff during investigations keep going with ur interest mate

There are some really good sites in Lincs too. Lots of old RAF bases from WW2 and the areas around the cathedral are really interesting. "

Yeah we have been investigating round our own county to start with be are starting to travel further out now so no doubt we will be heading out that way at somepoint

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I was in the bathroom running a bath, I heard a dog come into the house along the hallway, up the stairs I saw her walk in front of the bathroom door into a bedroom and flop down. I went into the bedroom and there was no dog, our current dog at the time was asleep in the kennel in the garden.

I was checking a 757, prior to it being towed to the hanger. I saw a person sitting in a seat towards the back of the plane, when I got closer to him I noticed he wasn't all there. I had to stay in the cockpit till the tow finished, but I never went on that plane again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

If it's an energy it can be measured

This is real life not ghostbusters

So do you think we have discovered every science and technology that can possibly be discovered, and there is nothing else waiting to be discovered."

That's not an argument for evidence of ghosts

The laws of science are there and unlike laws of the land,these cannot be broken.

The op says they have meters to measure ghosts. So how come this isn't a well known science?

I will tell you why, it's b.s

There is a bloke called James randi with 1 million dollars for someone who can prove this type of thing.

His prize has been there for years. No surprise then that no one has evidence of supernatural paranormal happenings.

As much as such and such saying 'I saw one in a house' may sound good but it's not or never will be proof.

Someone show me undeniable proof and I will believe.

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By *kblueeyesCouple
over a year ago

kilkenny

Definitely believe and have felt other energies in house we purchased over 150 years old, even the dogs stopped outside the room and would not move

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

If it's an energy it can be measured

This is real life not ghostbusters

So do you think we have discovered every science and technology that can possibly be discovered, and there is nothing else waiting to be discovered.

That's not an argument for evidence of ghosts

The laws of science are there and unlike laws of the land,these cannot be broken.

The op says they have meters to measure ghosts. So how come this isn't a well known science?

I will tell you why, it's b.s

There is a bloke called James randi with 1 million dollars for someone who can prove this type of thing.

His prize has been there for years. No surprise then that no one has evidence of supernatural paranormal happenings.

As much as such and such saying 'I saw one in a house' may sound good but it's not or never will be proof.

Someone show me undeniable proof and I will believe. "

The Roman Inquisition thought the same of Galileo.

He believed the earth revolves around the sun.

Darwin was condemned by several prominent religious groups and scientific leaders.

He believed in evolution.

Wegener was rejected and ridiculed for years by prominent scientific leaders.

He believed that earths continents moved relatively to each other.

Semmelweis was ridiculed my leading medical and health practitioners.

He believed that if surgeons washed their hands before performing surgery the patience chances of survival increased.

Just because something isn’t scientifically proven right now, doesn’t make it not real.

Those people above believed in something that at the time couldn’t be proven and didn’t listen to the unimaginative and close mind masses.

I believe that those who are brave enough to stand up for something they believe in may well achieve something - and ghost hunters may be the pioneers akin to some of the greatest discoveries of mankind one day.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

If it's an energy it can be measured

This is real life not ghostbusters

So do you think we have discovered every science and technology that can possibly be discovered, and there is nothing else waiting to be discovered.

That's not an argument for evidence of ghosts

The laws of science are there and unlike laws of the land,these cannot be broken.

The op says they have meters to measure ghosts. So how come this isn't a well known science?

I will tell you why, it's b.s

There is a bloke called James randi with 1 million dollars for someone who can prove this type of thing.

His prize has been there for years. No surprise then that no one has evidence of supernatural paranormal happenings.

As much as such and such saying 'I saw one in a house' may sound good but it's not or never will be proof.

Someone show me undeniable proof and I will believe. "

Im sorry but who the hell do u think u are to say my beliefs are bs grow up ur clearly not as educated and clever as u think u are !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm unsure whether it has been categorically proven that they can or can not exist but who ya gonna call?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I grew up in a haunted house have seen sum strange things but was always taught ignore it it wont hurt u

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a few friends where I have experienced very strange unexplanable things going on whilst in their houses so I'm say yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. Stuff happened when I was a child that was unexplainable otherwise. Knowing where a grandparents grave was that my parents couldn't find and telling my dad off for disturbing me talking to my dead nan who I had never met.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I grew up in a haunted house have seen sum strange things but was always taught ignore it it wont hurt u "

I think in the majority of cases this is very true

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By *ettyboob72Woman
over a year ago

Manningtree

I have seen them, and so yes i believe

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes. Stuff happened when I was a child that was unexplainable otherwise. Knowing where a grandparents grave was that my parents couldn't find and telling my dad off for disturbing me talking to my dead nan who I had never met. "

Wow thats awesome and it does seem to be the case that children and animals are more sensitive to the paranormal x

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

It depends what you think ghosts are. I've experienced things I can't explain but I'm reluctant to describe them as the spirits of dead people.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It depends what you think ghosts are. I've experienced things I can't explain but I'm reluctant to describe them as the spirits of dead people."

Thats fair enough

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"It depends what you think ghosts are. I've experienced things I can't explain but I'm reluctant to describe them as the spirits of dead people.

Thats fair enough "

What's your opinion on what ghosts are?

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

What if all time and past and future plays out at the same time. Like a radio. Maybe ghosts aren't dead. Just people living their lives in their time.

I wonder if they see us

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It depends what you think ghosts are. I've experienced things I can't explain but I'm reluctant to describe them as the spirits of dead people.

Thats fair enough

What's your opinion on what ghosts are? "

Honestly i dont know i think alot of the time its residual energy so like an echo or recording replaying but u wont get intelligent responses from them, then u get other side im far from intelligent enough to say what that others are x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What if all time and past and future plays out at the same time. Like a radio. Maybe ghosts aren't dead. Just people living their lives in their time.

I wonder if they see us "

Very interesting theory

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"What if all time and past and future plays out at the same time. Like a radio. Maybe ghosts aren't dead. Just people living their lives in their time.

I wonder if they see us "

I do wonder this. I've mentioned this before so I'll give a brief version.

I regularly said good morning to an early morning cleaner at work. He was missing for a few weeks but one morning I saw him again said good morning and he nodded in acknowledgement. That evening I saw him cycling away from work as was normal. I mentioned to a colleague that it was nice to see him back and she told me he'd died several weeks previously. I wonder if briefly I'd tuned in to the radio frequency he was broadcasting on so to speak.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

That for me is perfect example residual energy its an echo of a previous event

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From a non believer, very real

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

If it's an energy it can be measured

This is real life not ghostbusters

So do you think we have discovered every science and technology that can possibly be discovered, and there is nothing else waiting to be discovered.

That's not an argument for evidence of ghosts

The laws of science are there and unlike laws of the land,these cannot be broken.

The op says they have meters to measure ghosts. So how come this isn't a well known science?

I will tell you why, it's b.s

There is a bloke called James randi with 1 million dollars for someone who can prove this type of thing.

His prize has been there for years. No surprise then that no one has evidence of supernatural paranormal happenings.

As much as such and such saying 'I saw one in a house' may sound good but it's not or never will be proof.

Someone show me undeniable proof and I will believe.

Im sorry but who the hell do u think u are to say my beliefs are bs grow up ur clearly not as educated and clever as u think u are ! "

Statistically many beliefs by pure logic must be bull !

So suggesting an substantiated claim as most likely wrong is not offensive or rude simply an honest objective stand point

For example you keep referring to your wild made up guess regarding residual energy

But its obviously a construct of imagination not based upon any data

What is energy?

The irony is one moment residual energy is mentioned and then in the same guess , cold spots are mentioned

Cold spots by measurement and definition are lack of energy interesting contradictions x

Apparitions are either

Matter reflecting light source

Matter emitting light

Or something that cause the neural network of the brain to produce images

Residual energy is a meaningless buzz phrase that answers nothing , when I fart I leave residual energy and the laws of thermodynamics illustrate what will happen to that energy x

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

If it's an energy it can be measured

This is real life not ghostbusters

So do you think we have discovered every science and technology that can possibly be discovered, and there is nothing else waiting to be discovered.

That's not an argument for evidence of ghosts

The laws of science are there and unlike laws of the land,these cannot be broken.

The op says they have meters to measure ghosts. So how come this isn't a well known science?

I will tell you why, it's b.s

There is a bloke called James randi with 1 million dollars for someone who can prove this type of thing.

His prize has been there for years. No surprise then that no one has evidence of supernatural paranormal happenings.

As much as such and such saying 'I saw one in a house' may sound good but it's not or never will be proof.

Someone show me undeniable proof and I will believe.

Im sorry but who the hell do u think u are to say my beliefs are bs grow up ur clearly not as educated and clever as u think u are !

Statistically many beliefs by pure logic must be bull !

So suggesting an substantiated claim as most likely wrong is not offensive or rude simply an honest objective stand point

For example you keep referring to your wild made up guess regarding residual energy

But its obviously a construct of imagination not based upon any data

What is energy?

The irony is one moment residual energy is mentioned and then in the same guess , cold spots are mentioned

Cold spots by measurement and definition are lack of energy interesting contradictions x

Apparitions are either

Matter reflecting light source

Matter emitting light

Or something that cause the neural network of the brain to produce images

Residual energy is a meaningless buzz phrase that answers nothing , when I fart I leave residual energy and the laws of thermodynamics illustrate what will happen to that energy x

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Indeed. It does my head in when people get all offended when you tell them that their ill informed beliefs are, in fact, ill informed.

There's is zero robust evidence for the existence of ghosts so I don't believe they exist. If robust evidence came along I'd believe in them.

It's that simple.

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)

No idea but any ladies looking to be given the Willie's give me a shout

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

Nope I don't believe in them. I love a good ghost story but think they are complete fiction.

It's easy to let your imagination run wild when you're in a creepy place and start thinking that every noise or flash in the corner of your eye is something supernatural, or other things like lack of sleep, stress, mental illness or any other weird thing that the human brain can throw up randomly.

My dad always claimed he saw something in the woods when he was a teenager that scared the crap out of him, like a figure with no features made up of fog. I don't doubt he saw something but I very much doubt it's what he thought it was.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"Nope I don't believe in them. I love a good ghost story but think they are complete fiction.

It's easy to let your imagination run wild when you're in a creepy place and start thinking that every noise or flash in the corner of your eye is something supernatural, or other things like lack of sleep, stress, mental illness or any other weird thing that the human brain can throw up randomly.

My dad always claimed he saw something in the woods when he was a teenager that scared the crap out of him, like a figure with no features made up of fog. I don't doubt he saw something but I very much doubt it's what he thought it was."

I was at work when I saw someone who had been dead for several weeks in a well lit reception area. I'm not saying it was the dead person come back to haunt the building but there must be an explanation of some sort.

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"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel "

Right, I googled "residual energy" and read a few pages on it - I can find nothing about it that is backed up by reliable, proven science that falls within the boundaries of the laws of physics. Are you able to point me in the direction of any solid scientific research that's able to prove this theory?

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

Right, I googled "residual energy" and read a few pages on it - I can find nothing about it that is backed up by reliable, proven science that falls within the boundaries of the laws of physics. Are you able to point me in the direction of any solid scientific research that's able to prove this theory?"

Quantum mechanics is what you want to read

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By *ily Con CarneTV/TS
over a year ago

Cornwall

Total non believer here ... offered to accompany those that do on a "ghost hunt" a few times but guess what ... hehehe yep they turned me down ......I think they need to stay away from the gin bottle ... hate on me if you want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BETTER CALL THE ... GHOSTBUSTERS!!

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over a year ago

Slimer!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yea the car comes round... Flashing lights and sirens... Waaaaaaaa waaaaa waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaah lol haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most Haunted... Evette Fielding n co.

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over a year ago

If there's something in the neighbourhood ... Who ya call .. Ghostbusters!! Der da da ... If there's something strange in the neighbourhood and it don't look good.... who gonna call.... ?? Ghostbusters!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a ghost in my Uncle Albert’s house. It scared the life out of me and my brother. When we would ask Albert about it in the morning he would tell us he was a “secretive ghost” and not to tell anyone. We’d wake covered in “ectoplasm”. Terrifying!

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over a year ago

I’m not saying I believe or disbelieve, I’ve had many many experiences, including photo’s I’ve taken, which Despite my best efforts I have not been able to explain.

For those who say they need proof to believe in something, you need to understand that all of humanities scientific discoveries started out as beliefs without any proof.

And whilst you sit there saying you wont believe in something until you have undeniable proof, let’s be glad there are those who have had the conviction, strength and courage to not listen to the mindless and unimaginative masses, to pursue their beliefs.

Because without those people we’d be sitting in caves, and like many who have pioneered scientific discoveries against the odds, a ghost hunter may well one day be the leader of a scientific discovery.

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By *xelf787Man
over a year ago

Chorlton, Manchester

There has been some research done that some structures, ie certain types of rocks can capture an image and exposure to energy sources can cause this captured image to appear like a photograph or in some cases a recording

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"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

Right, I googled "residual energy" and read a few pages on it - I can find nothing about it that is backed up by reliable, proven science that falls within the boundaries of the laws of physics. Are you able to point me in the direction of any solid scientific research that's able to prove this theory?

Quantum mechanics is what you want to read "

I'm fairly well-read in Quantum Mechanics - again, there's no proven correlation between QM and ghosts, just the usual wacky theories that don't fall into the realms of any proven laws of physics. I don't know how much money has ever been spent on trying to prove ghosts exist, but there are real problems that will have answers and need money for research - world hunger, cancer etc. If ghosts are proved to be real, of what use is that knowledge to humanity?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In all seriousness though....

Myself and my ex back in 2006 were in brierley park at huthwaite going for a bike ride... N we stopped at the brierley park lake (this is early evening) n we both shouted out "is there anyone that can hear my voice (as they did in most haunted) etc etc n the next thing I know is that there is a miner standing on the opposite side of the lake!!! Omg! cause the park lake etc was built on a old pit site ... N very near a knocked down one too... I knew it was a ghost... Because I went to look everywhere for this man on my bike....up n down streets and country paths n I couldn't see him!! Plus this man was sort of a see through person... So yes it was a ghost!! So I am I firm believer in the spirit world.... If you ask for ghosts etc to visit you.... They really will do!

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over a year ago


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

Right, I googled "residual energy" and read a few pages on it - I can find nothing about it that is backed up by reliable, proven science that falls within the boundaries of the laws of physics. Are you able to point me in the direction of any solid scientific research that's able to prove this theory?

Quantum mechanics is what you want to read

I'm fairly well-read in Quantum Mechanics - again, there's no proven correlation between QM and ghosts, just the usual wacky theories that don't fall into the realms of any proven laws of physics. I don't know how much money has ever been spent on trying to prove ghosts exist, but there are real problems that will have answers and need money for research - world hunger, cancer etc. If ghosts are proved to be real, of what use is that knowledge to humanity?"

Isn’t it ironic that Funnily enough Planck was regarded as talking a bit of nonsence, disbelieved, and his early theories and experiments failed to prove his theories, yet despite this he pursued his beliefs. If he hadn’t have done, perhaps you wouldn’t be so well read in quantum mechanics?

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over a year ago


"Believing in ghosts is believing that human beings are more than just flesh and bone, which I don't. We're made of organic matter, nothing more.

A question for believers - do you think there are animal ghosts too?

Im sorry but thats quite a closed off view of what people think ghosts are there is so many theories of what ghosts actually are, myself i believe that most ghosts that are seen are a thing called residual energy its a type of echo that u see and feel

Right, I googled "residual energy" and read a few pages on it - I can find nothing about it that is backed up by reliable, proven science that falls within the boundaries of the laws of physics. Are you able to point me in the direction of any solid scientific research that's able to prove this theory?

Quantum mechanics is what you want to read

I'm fairly well-read in Quantum Mechanics - again, there's no proven correlation between QM and ghosts, just the usual wacky theories that don't fall into the realms of any proven laws of physics. I don't know how much money has ever been spent on trying to prove ghosts exist, but there are real problems that will have answers and need money for research - world hunger, cancer etc. If ghosts are proved to be real, of what use is that knowledge to humanity?

Isn’t it ironic that Funnily enough Planck was regarded as talking a bit of nonsence, disbelieved, and his early theories and experiments failed to prove his theories, yet despite this he pursued his beliefs. If he hadn’t have done, perhaps you wouldn’t be so well read in quantum mechanics? "

How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundaries of the laws of physics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How ironic is it that people are coping the exact same message as someone else!

Spooky!

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"How ironic is it that people are coping the exact same message as someone else!

Spooky! "

??? You mean quoting a post?

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By (user no longer on site)
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Obviously not real

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari"

Yes quite. But point missed

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By (user no longer on site)
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Yeh, I believe ghost and spirits are amongst us.

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed "

Please explain your point more clearly then.

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed

Please explain your point more clearly then."

I’m not sure I could make it more so

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"How ironic is it that people are coping the exact same message as someone else!

Spooky!

??? You mean quoting a post?"

Erm.... Yea.

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By (user no longer on site)
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Yeah we have plenty of spirits amongst us.... In the beer store.... N the pubs!

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed

Please explain your point more clearly then.

I’m not sure I could make it more so "

Ok

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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah we have plenty of spirits amongst us.... In the beer store.... N the pubs! "

I suspect that those kinds of spirits are the more likely reason for most people thinking they've experienced the other kind

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"Yeah we have plenty of spirits amongst us.... In the beer store.... N the pubs!

I suspect that those kinds of spirits are the more likely reason for most people thinking they've experienced the other kind "

Lol haha haha

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed

Please explain your point more clearly then.

I’m not sure I could make it more so

Ok "

This might help you with the point you missed.

“It is strange that only extraordinary men make the discoveries, which later appear so easy and simple.” - Georg C. Lichtenberg

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"Nope I don't believe in them. I love a good ghost story but think they are complete fiction.

It's easy to let your imagination run wild when you're in a creepy place and start thinking that every noise or flash in the corner of your eye is something supernatural, or other things like lack of sleep, stress, mental illness or any other weird thing that the human brain can throw up randomly.

My dad always claimed he saw something in the woods when he was a teenager that scared the crap out of him, like a figure with no features made up of fog. I don't doubt he saw something but I very much doubt it's what he thought it was.

I was at work when I saw someone who had been dead for several weeks in a well lit reception area. I'm not saying it was the dead person come back to haunt the building but there must be an explanation of some sort. "

I've worked in offices like that.

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed

Please explain your point more clearly then.

I’m not sure I could make it more so

Ok

This might help you with the point you missed.

“It is strange that only extraordinary men make the discoveries, which later appear so easy and simple.” - Georg C. Lichtenberg

"

Hmm, ok - Lichtenberg was a self-promoting buffoon whose greatest contribution to the world was standardising paper sizes. In comparison, Planck was a planet to the speck of dust that was Lichtenberg.

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed

Please explain your point more clearly then.

I’m not sure I could make it more so

Ok

This might help you with the point you missed.

“It is strange that only extraordinary men make the discoveries, which later appear so easy and simple.” - Georg C. Lichtenberg

Hmm, ok - Lichtenberg was a self-promoting buffoon whose greatest contribution to the world was standardising paper sizes. In comparison, Planck was a planet to the speck of dust that was Lichtenberg."

Lol - yep a barn door and a Gatling gun wouldn’t help you now

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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Indigenous peoples take hallucinogenics to meet the spirits all over the world

Check out Bruce Parry taking some

There's definitely something in my opinion

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Guys this wasnt meant to end up in arguing one way or the other its a fun and interesting subject that i believe in i dont want anybody getting upset so if u dont believe thats all fair and well but please dont try and make people that do believe feel like they are stupid or in the wrong ! And vise versa arguing with someone that doesnt believe will never work ! I meant for the post to be abit of fun and see what people believe and dont believe

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"Guys this wasnt meant to end up in arguing one way or the other its a fun and interesting subject that i believe in i dont want anybody getting upset so if u dont believe thats all fair and well but please dont try and make people that do believe feel like they are stupid or in the wrong ! And vise versa arguing with someone that doesnt believe will never work ! I meant for the post to be abit of fun and see what people believe and dont believe "

I’m not arguing - I’ve also stated that I’m not sure whether I believe or not - what I’m trying to state is that simply not having the scientific fact or proof to prove something doesn’t disprove it - much like every major scientific discovery in our entire history before someone had the belief and bravery to try and prove it

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed

Please explain your point more clearly then.

I’m not sure I could make it more so

Ok

This might help you with the point you missed.

“It is strange that only extraordinary men make the discoveries, which later appear so easy and simple.” - Georg C. Lichtenberg

Hmm, ok - Lichtenberg was a self-promoting buffoon whose greatest contribution to the world was standardising paper sizes. In comparison, Planck was a planet to the speck of dust that was Lichtenberg."

Here m8 u free? Fancy a fone wank? U into standardised paper sizes too?

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed

Please explain your point more clearly then.

I’m not sure I could make it more so

Ok

This might help you with the point you missed.

“It is strange that only extraordinary men make the discoveries, which later appear so easy and simple.” - Georg C. Lichtenberg

Hmm, ok - Lichtenberg was a self-promoting buffoon whose greatest contribution to the world was standardising paper sizes. In comparison, Planck was a planet to the speck of dust that was Lichtenberg.

Lol - yep a barn door and a Gatling gun wouldn’t help you now "

Indeed, neither of those items would help me prove or disprove the existence of ghosts However, I could threaten people into believing by using the Gatling gun, in much the same way religion has always convinced people of its veracity - by threat of violence.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"Guys this wasnt meant to end up in arguing one way or the other its a fun and interesting subject that i believe in i dont want anybody getting upset so if u dont believe thats all fair and well but please dont try and make people that do believe feel like they are stupid or in the wrong ! And vise versa arguing with someone that doesnt believe will never work ! I meant for the post to be abit of fun and see what people believe and dont believe "

People will always argue over this. I don't think ridicule is ok from either side though.

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed

Please explain your point more clearly then.

I’m not sure I could make it more so

Ok

This might help you with the point you missed.

“It is strange that only extraordinary men make the discoveries, which later appear so easy and simple.” - Georg C. Lichtenberg

Hmm, ok - Lichtenberg was a self-promoting buffoon whose greatest contribution to the world was standardising paper sizes. In comparison, Planck was a planet to the speck of dust that was Lichtenberg.

Here m8 u free? Fancy a fone wank? U into standardised paper sizes too?"

A5 gets me hot, but I'm not keen on the slutty A4 - it's too much of an easy lay.

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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Everything in the universe is made of atoms which are 99.999999% empty space. We are already ghosts .......cue twilight zone theme tune

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed

Please explain your point more clearly then.

I’m not sure I could make it more so

Ok

This might help you with the point you missed.

“It is strange that only extraordinary men make the discoveries, which later appear so easy and simple.” - Georg C. Lichtenberg

Hmm, ok - Lichtenberg was a self-promoting buffoon whose greatest contribution to the world was standardising paper sizes. In comparison, Planck was a planet to the speck of dust that was Lichtenberg.

Lol - yep a barn door and a Gatling gun wouldn’t help you now

Indeed, neither of those items would help me prove or disprove the existence of ghosts However, I could threaten people into believing by using the Gatling gun, in much the same way religion has always convinced people of its veracity - by threat of violence."

Neither were supposed to, as that’s far from the point I’m trying to highlight.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

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This depends what the question is -

does a person continue to live, after their death?

what is a ghost?

I see that our self is a fantastic organic being, comprised of our cells working together, building up experience in a very unique way - the collection of all that's happened to a unique DNA structure: our body and mind. When our brain dies, we start decomposition and after a relatively short time, our self has disappeared and cannot be resumed - death has been final for us. Our identity, our experiences and everything that consturcted our being has fully gone. As such, without an equal organic structure existing, we're not able to be experienced on this earth again: so no ghost of us is feasible.

Whether there is any other method that could permit the continuation of all that was within and supported by the organic body that we were, is another thing - it seems most unlikely to me. Transition of a collective self/experience etc formed from an organic body into some other entity, might be possible but I'd be very sceptical that such an entity could be translated from a human body. I'd love people not to have to die and their self to be obliterated but I'm assuming that we live on as memory and experiences within others.

Whilst we're alive, our brains are certainly very capabile entities, able to produce the mind that we know - but also be subject to many kinds of perceptual influences, such that we can have experiences that can seem as if they were absolute fact - but we already understand that our beliefs, our unconscious biases, our experiences and many other influences actually have great powers over what we've perceived to be a reality. It's my expectation that our malleable consciousness and perception are the source of 'ghosts', rather than someone that used to be ablive.

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"How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed

Please explain your point more clearly then.

I’m not sure I could make it more so

Ok

This might help you with the point you missed.

“It is strange that only extraordinary men make the discoveries, which later appear so easy and simple.” - Georg C. Lichtenberg

Hmm, ok - Lichtenberg was a self-promoting buffoon whose greatest contribution to the world was standardising paper sizes. In comparison, Planck was a planet to the speck of dust that was Lichtenberg.

Here m8 u free? Fancy a fone wank? U into standardised paper sizes too?

A5 gets me hot, but I'm not keen on the slutty A4 - it's too much of an easy lay."

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"Guys this wasnt meant to end up in arguing one way or the other its a fun and interesting subject that i believe in i dont want anybody getting upset so if u dont believe thats all fair and well but please dont try and make people that do believe feel like they are stupid or in the wrong ! And vise versa arguing with someone that doesnt believe will never work ! I meant for the post to be abit of fun and see what people believe and dont believe

People will always argue over this. I don't think ridicule is ok from either side though."

Wished i hadnt started the thread now just wanted it to be abit of fun maybe hear some cool stories of other peoples experiences

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My short answer is, yes, I do believe in ghosts. And yes, I have had some experiences.

My long answer though, is quite deep and meaningful and it's not all that straight forward.

The human mind and indeed, the mind of other animals, is far more powerful than we think.

I do very much believe in the "sixth sense" and in the power of energy.

Time is far from constant and how can time exist? If time exists then how come there's no beginning and if there was a beginning, what was there before the beginning? It just doesn't make sense.

What is the real, true connection between time, light and electricity? 3 things which no one can touch, no one can "bottle" and no one can show a picture of.

There's definitely a lot more to life than meets our eyes, so to speak.

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""How is it ironic? Planck worked well within the accepted boundari

Yes quite. But point missed

Please explain your point more clearly then.

I’m not sure I could make it more so

Ok

This might help you with the point you missed.

“It is strange that only extraordinary men make the discoveries, which later appear so easy and simple.” - Georg C. Lichtenberg

Hmm, ok - Lichtenberg was a self-promoting buffoon whose greatest contribution to the world was standardising paper sizes. In comparison, Planck was a planet to the speck of dust that was Lichtenberg.

Lol - yep a barn door and a Gatling gun wouldn’t help you now

Indeed, neither of those items would help me prove or disprove the existence of ghosts However, I could threaten people into believing by using the Gatling gun, in much the same way religion has always convinced people of its veracity - by threat of violence."

Neither were supposed to, as that’s far from the point I’m trying to highlight. "

Splendid

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