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By *rincessvenus OP   Couple
over a year ago

Hull

why are they messing about just shotgun the things problem solved

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By *ankie303Woman
over a year ago

Weirdsville South Coast Dorset

*Gatwick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"*Gatwick "

I'm suprised it didn't run out of battery/fuel after a couple of hours. Or is it solar powered? It's dark now. Problem solved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere...

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

So what's happened at Gatwick?

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By *afadaoMan
over a year ago

Staines


"They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere..."

Exactly right - they’d need to evacuate about 2.5 miles in every direction to be safe

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows


"They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere...

Exactly right - they’d need to evacuate about 2.5 miles in every direction to be safe "

Plus, not knowing who exactly is responsible, the drones could contain explosives or bacterial agents creating even more chaos

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Theres more than one drone, and more than one battery! Every time they try to reopen the runway another one appears!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere...

Exactly right - they’d need to evacuate about 2.5 miles in every direction to be safe

Plus, not knowing who exactly is responsible, the drones could contain explosives or bacterial agents creating even more chaos "

Capturing who is responsible whilst in flight would allow collection of forensic evidence.

Just shooting it down allows the pilot to claim "oh it got hijacked when I was flying it but didn't bother reporting the fact as the police are too busy to deal with theft".

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By *rincessvenus OP   Couple
over a year ago

Hull

one flew over our farm during the summer i shot it down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere..."

Safety distance for a clay ground is @275yards. I think Gatwick has the space. It's more a matter of opportunity. Could be done safely from a helicopter above at @ 50m, shooting down, but these drones are highly manoueverable and if the operator sees a chopper up they are unlikely to fly the drone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They have to see it to shoot it without risking hitting something else. It isn't a field. When you fire at something and miss, the pellets have to land somewhere...

Exactly right - they’d need to evacuate about 2.5 miles in every direction to be safe "

A shotgun's maximum effective range is only about 40 meters, and the pellets will all drop within 120 meters, no matter what angle they're fired at.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Look for the video on YouTube of what happens when a drone hits a plane. The damage is huge

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

This is all a bit not cricket

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"one flew over our farm during the summer i shot it down"

Then you are lucky you didn't lose your certificate over it as the law states you have no right to the airspace above your property. Personally I think that is shit and you should be able to, but you can't under current law.

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

They are flying too high.

A shotguns effective range is around 200m, a sniper could effectively hit a target that size at 1500m although highly improbable to hit a moving target wIth all other considerations such as round velocity, wind direction and speed and target speed..

Drones realistically can only be taken out using anti aircraft weapons which is just unrealistic to use above populated areas as there will be burning debris falling somewhere within a 2km radius of the detonation.

There are jammers already in production but have only been used in prisons so far to prevent drugs being flown over the wall into the prison.

I am sure right now there are many of the missile manufacturers realising that a low cost, small warhead missile system with a drogue parachute is necessary and will have a huge market.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is all a bit not cricket "

Which bits?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *onny MCMan
over a year ago

Crawley

One was shot down over Swingfields this summer. Just missed seeing that - was absolutely gutted.

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

Maybe the police have specially trained gun users, who are able to be more accurate than a farmer with a shotgun....

Oh yes, I remember.

Snipers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are flying too high.

A shotguns effective range is around 200m, a sniper could effectively hit a target that size at 1500m although highly improbable to hit a moving target wIth all other considerations such as round velocity, wind direction and speed and target speed..

Drones realistically can only be taken out using anti aircraft weapons which is just unrealistic to use above populated areas as there will be burning debris falling somewhere within a 2km radius of the detonation.

There are jammers already in production but have only been used in prisons so far to prevent drugs being flown over the wall into the prison.

I am sure right now there are many of the missile manufacturers realising that a low cost, small warhead missile system with a drogue parachute is necessary and will have a huge market. "

What shotgun are you shooting that has a range of 200 meters? If you use a sabot slug you might get 150 meters, but horribly inaccurate at that distance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The shotgun is ineffective.

A sniper would be more effective but a high velocity round would strike the drone then fly off in any direction.

If you hit a large target, the energy from the round is largely dissipated. For a drone, it would damage / disable it but the round would continue to travel. There's the issue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How is this thing still in the air?

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

Everyone is assuming they're going to shoot it down when the chances are they'll just use an ECM and jam the signal to it so it falls out of the sky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They have been given the go to shoot them down so will see now what happens

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get Spiderman to throw a web over it/around it.

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..


"They are flying too high.

A shotguns effective range is around 200m, a sniper could effectively hit a target that size at 1500m although highly improbable to hit a moving target wIth all other considerations such as round velocity, wind direction and speed and target speed..

Drones realistically can only be taken out using anti aircraft weapons which is just unrealistic to use above populated areas as there will be burning debris falling somewhere within a 2km radius of the detonation.

There are jammers already in production but have only been used in prisons so far to prevent drugs being flown over the wall into the prison.

I am sure right now there are many of the missile manufacturers realising that a low cost, small warhead missile system with a drogue parachute is necessary and will have a huge market.

What shotgun are you shooting that has a range of 200 meters? If you use a sabot slug you might get 150 meters, but horribly inaccurate at that distance."

Current in service assault shotguns have a range of up to 200m (not effective), however the recoil from those high velocity rounds would make hitting a target impossible. They are used for breaching and not designed for anything else..

There are no weapons designed for taking out Drones beyond medium to large missile systems which is not going to be deployed in London.

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

On the News tonight, it was touched upon there could be more than 1 person operating drones or they have multiple units to fly whilst batteries are changed.

Also, there's no constant flying of drones but often intermittent flying just as the Airport authorities consider opening up!

Police & other authorities are saying this is deliberate disruption to the Airport's business. Police have undercover teams on the ground but so far haven't found anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone is assuming they're going to shoot it down when the chances are they'll just use an ECM and jam the signal to it so it falls out of the sky "

ECM kit is available and offered, but it's not licensed for UK use. They might want to review that sharpish!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are flying too high.

A shotguns effective range is around 200m, a sniper could effectively hit a target that size at 1500m although highly improbable to hit a moving target wIth all other considerations such as round velocity, wind direction and speed and target speed..

Drones realistically can only be taken out using anti aircraft weapons which is just unrealistic to use above populated areas as there will be burning debris falling somewhere within a 2km radius of the detonation.

There are jammers already in production but have only been used in prisons so far to prevent drugs being flown over the wall into the prison.

I am sure right now there are many of the missile manufacturers realising that a low cost, small warhead missile system with a drogue parachute is necessary and will have a huge market.

What shotgun are you shooting that has a range of 200 meters? If you use a sabot slug you might get 150 meters, but horribly inaccurate at that distance.

Current in service assault shotguns have a range of up to 200m (not effective), however the recoil from those high velocity rounds would make hitting a target impossible. They are used for breaching and not designed for anything else..

There are no weapons designed for taking out Drones beyond medium to large missile systems which is not going to be deployed in London.

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Not so. There are launchers, a bit like baton guns that fire cartridges containing nets that spread out and entangle the drone. I doubt your average Police armoury has them though.....yet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On the News tonight, it was touched upon there could be more than 1 person operating drones or they have multiple units to fly whilst batteries are changed.

Also, there's no constant flying of drones but often intermittent flying just as the Airport authorities consider opening up!

Police & other authorities are saying this is deliberate disruption to the Airport's business. Police have undercover teams on the ground but so far haven't found anyone."

I wish they'd find them. Why disrupt things and put people's lives in danger at any time... but at Christmas...

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By *hips n FursMan
over a year ago

Huddersfield

It did make me laugh when a reporter on the radio announced that they had been given the go ahead to shoot them down. He slipped it in that if this had happened in Israel it would of been shot down within the first 5 minutes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would have thought they could trace the location of the transmitter and raid premises

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On the News tonight, it was touched upon there could be more than 1 person operating drones or they have multiple units to fly whilst batteries are changed.

Also, there's no constant flying of drones but often intermittent flying just as the Airport authorities consider opening up!

Police & other authorities are saying this is deliberate disruption to the Airport's business. Police have undercover teams on the ground but so far haven't found anyone.

I wish they'd find them. Why disrupt things and put people's lives in danger at any time... but at Christmas...

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It's got people talking though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On the News tonight, it was touched upon there could be more than 1 person operating drones or they have multiple units to fly whilst batteries are changed.

Also, there's no constant flying of drones but often intermittent flying just as the Airport authorities consider opening up!

Police & other authorities are saying this is deliberate disruption to the Airport's business. Police have undercover teams on the ground but so far haven't found anyone.

I wish they'd find them. Why disrupt things and put people's lives in danger at any time... but at Christmas...

It's got people talking though "

The Russians are doing it

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