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"It had been mentioned on these forums many times about depression and people's mental health. If you haven't heard or read about this on Iain Lee's talk radio programme he kept a man from Plymouth on the air for 30 minutes as this caller had taken an overdose and wanted to die. It's very upsetting for some to listen too as the man is sluring his words and is in a dreadful state but Iain battled to keep him taking and trying to get his location to get him help. There are periods of uneasy silence in the call and while all this was going on the producer of the programme was tracking the caller down . Thankfully the police got there in just in time. So whatever your going through today or whenever never give up or think your alone. Your not. Stay safe and talk to someone." Wow,amazing thread sir | |||
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"It had been mentioned on these forums many times about depression and people's mental health. If you haven't heard or read about this on Iain Lee's talk radio programme he kept a man from Plymouth on the air for 30 minutes as this caller had taken an overdose and wanted to die. It's very upsetting for some to listen too as the man is sluring his words and is in a dreadful state but Iain battled to keep him taking and trying to get his location to get him help. There are periods of uneasy silence in the call and while all this was going on the producer of the programme was tracking the caller down . Thankfully the police got there in just in time. So whatever your going through today or whenever never give up or think your alone. Your not. Stay safe and talk to someone." Amen to that brother. My other half is volunteering with the Samaritans from January bless her. | |||
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"It had been mentioned on these forums many times about depression and people's mental health. If you haven't heard or read about this on Iain Lee's talk radio programme he kept a man from Plymouth on the air for 30 minutes as this caller had taken an overdose and wanted to die. It's very upsetting for some to listen too as the man is sluring his words and is in a dreadful state but Iain battled to keep him taking and trying to get his location to get him help. There are periods of uneasy silence in the call and while all this was going on the producer of the programme was tracking the caller down . Thankfully the police got there in just in time. So whatever your going through today or whenever never give up or think your alone. Your not. Stay safe and talk to someone." Good post OP, especially this time of year can be very difficult with people struggling with mental health or isolation issues | |||
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"Yeah I was listening to it,I wonder how the guy is today hopefully in a better place." If he’s alive he’s in a better place. Better for everyone that know him and care for him. | |||
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"I saw that article. Good for him. x Was it all on air though? Surely they could have done it off air and played music in the meantime. " This is the bit that gets me. The public airing of it. I don't know the ins and outs of it so I will reserve judgment but I know it's not something I'd want to hear for the sake of the man involved and his dignity. | |||
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"I saw that article. Good for him. x Was it all on air though? Surely they could have done it off air and played music in the meantime. This is the bit that gets me. The public airing of it. I don't know the ins and outs of it so I will reserve judgment but I know it's not something I'd want to hear for the sake of the man involved and his dignity. " When you listened to it Iain Lee was talking to the guy about what he was wearing things about him to keep him talking. It did end with the police saying they had him but it shows you just one person can make a difference and I'm sure this will have a impact on Iain and I will be listening again tonight as I'm sure he will talk about his feelings over the call and give updates on the man's condition. | |||
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"I saw that article. Good for him. x Was it all on air though? Surely they could have done it off air and played music in the meantime. This is the bit that gets me. The public airing of it. I don't know the ins and outs of it so I will reserve judgment but I know it's not something I'd want to hear for the sake of the man involved and his dignity. " I agree with this. On the other hand though part of me feels that sometimes, if someone else is in the same situation, hearing or seeing the reality of taking your own life ( or trying to) might make them think twice about doing it and ask for help. Maybe more than one life was saved by that broadcast. It's a tough one Mrs | |||
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"If this was kiss,fuck,bollox thread it would have loads of post's by now......sad" Ain’t that the truth. | |||
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"I saw that article. Good for him. x Was it all on air though? Surely they could have done it off air and played music in the meantime. This is the bit that gets me. The public airing of it. I don't know the ins and outs of it so I will reserve judgment but I know it's not something I'd want to hear for the sake of the man involved and his dignity. When you listened to it Iain Lee was talking to the guy about what he was wearing things about him to keep him talking. It did end with the police saying they had him but it shows you just one person can make a difference and I'm sure this will have a impact on Iain and I will be listening again tonight as I'm sure he will talk about his feelings over the call and give updates on the man's condition. " Yeah I'm not in any way down playing what he did. He saved a man's life and that's highly commendable. It's the doing it on air part that makes me feel uneasy. I know the man called a radio show so he must have had an understanding he would be on air but given his mental state I think I'd have given him privacy and taken the call off air. | |||
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"I saw that article. Good for him. x Was it all on air though? Surely they could have done it off air and played music in the meantime. This is the bit that gets me. The public airing of it. I don't know the ins and outs of it so I will reserve judgment but I know it's not something I'd want to hear for the sake of the man involved and his dignity. I agree with this. On the other hand though part of me feels that sometimes, if someone else is in the same situation, hearing or seeing the reality of taking your own life ( or trying to) might make them think twice about doing it and ask for help. Maybe more than one life was saved by that broadcast. It's a tough one Mrs" That was exactly my thinking. Part of me thinks would it not have been better for somebody off air to continue the conversation but also from what I understand Iain Lee has been quite public about his own problems with mental health so maybe the caller felt safe talking to him. | |||
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"I saw that article. Good for him. x Was it all on air though? Surely they could have done it off air and played music in the meantime. This is the bit that gets me. The public airing of it. I don't know the ins and outs of it so I will reserve judgment but I know it's not something I'd want to hear for the sake of the man involved and his dignity. I agree with this. On the other hand though part of me feels that sometimes, if someone else is in the same situation, hearing or seeing the reality of taking your own life ( or trying to) might make them think twice about doing it and ask for help. Maybe more than one life was saved by that broadcast. It's a tough one Mrs" It's a call in show so clearly it was a cry for help. Iain had tackled many serious and upsetting subjects in the past but to keep that guy on the line when he was desperate and in a very bad way kept him alive. You can't understate that | |||
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"I saw that article. Good for him. x Was it all on air though? Surely they could have done it off air and played music in the meantime. This is the bit that gets me. The public airing of it. I don't know the ins and outs of it so I will reserve judgment but I know it's not something I'd want to hear for the sake of the man involved and his dignity. I agree with this. On the other hand though part of me feels that sometimes, if someone else is in the same situation, hearing or seeing the reality of taking your own life ( or trying to) might make them think twice about doing it and ask for help. Maybe more than one life was saved by that broadcast. It's a tough one Mrs" That is true and I hadn't thought of that. I guess hearing someone in that state could prompt someone to get help before they themselves get there. I can only imagine the pain and distress in the man's voice. | |||
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"I saw that article. Good for him. x Was it all on air though? Surely they could have done it off air and played music in the meantime. This is the bit that gets me. The public airing of it. I don't know the ins and outs of it so I will reserve judgment but I know it's not something I'd want to hear for the sake of the man involved and his dignity. I agree with this. On the other hand though part of me feels that sometimes, if someone else is in the same situation, hearing or seeing the reality of taking your own life ( or trying to) might make them think twice about doing it and ask for help. Maybe more than one life was saved by that broadcast. It's a tough one Mrs It's a call in show so clearly it was a cry for help. Iain had tackled many serious and upsetting subjects in the past but to keep that guy on the line when he was desperate and in a very bad way kept him alive. You can't understate that" I haven't understated it. Mrs | |||
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"I saw that article. Good for him. x Was it all on air though? Surely they could have done it off air and played music in the meantime. " It was all on air yes,it was a bit worrying when he went silent at time's. Suppose in one respect it was good it was kept live as it shows people there is always help out there,no matter where it comes from. He stayed on air until the ambulance arrived. | |||
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"I saw that article. Good for him. x Was it all on air though? Surely they could have done it off air and played music in the meantime. It was all on air yes,it was a bit worrying when he went silent at time's. Suppose in one respect it was good it was kept live as it shows people there is always help out there,no matter where it comes from. He stayed on air until the ambulance arrived." That's it. The silent bits were very worrying. But I stopped everything I was doing and was gripped by the phone call and what was going on. It makes you think how lucky you really are. | |||
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"It's on YouTube if anyone wants to listen Some may see it as voyeuristic and undignified but on the flip side if it has even sparked 1 person to reach out for help then that's all that matters at the end off the day" Can't find YouTube clip | |||
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"The sheer desperation and despair that someone feels to drive them to taking their own life makes my heart hurt. It's ok to not be ok. It's easy to say if you're feeling down, speak to someone. It's not easy to speak to someone when you are feeling down though. It's hard to seek help when you're in that place, because you just don't know what to do. Everyone should try to be mindful of the people around them, and reach out to anyone who appears to be struggling. Sometimes being asked are you ok is all it takes to give someone an outlet that could potentially save their life " | |||
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"It had been mentioned on these forums many times about depression and people's mental health. If you haven't heard or read about this on Iain Lee's talk radio programme he kept a man from Plymouth on the air for 30 minutes as this caller had taken an overdose and wanted to die. It's very upsetting for some to listen too as the man is sluring his words and is in a dreadful state but Iain battled to keep him taking and trying to get his location to get him help. There are periods of uneasy silence in the call and while all this was going on the producer of the programme was tracking the caller down . Thankfully the police got there in just in time. So whatever your going through today or whenever never give up or think your alone. Your not. Stay safe and talk to someone." That is wonderful to read Sadly though, some people are very, very alone | |||
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"It had been mentioned on these forums many times about depression and people's mental health. If you haven't heard or read about this on Iain Lee's talk radio programme he kept a man from Plymouth on the air for 30 minutes as this caller had taken an overdose and wanted to die. It's very upsetting for some to listen too as the man is sluring his words and is in a dreadful state but Iain battled to keep him taking and trying to get his location to get him help. There are periods of uneasy silence in the call and while all this was going on the producer of the programme was tracking the caller down . Thankfully the police got there in just in time. So whatever your going through today or whenever never give up or think your alone. Your not. Stay safe and talk to someone. That is wonderful to read Sadly though, some people are very, very alone " Yes and I think also this time of year it can make things feel a lot harder for people. It's not easy being on your own or lonely but I think it just brings it home at this time of year a bit more. | |||
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"I have just listened to the call and it reduced me to tears, but Iain Lee is a fucking hero Well done to the Emergency Services too xx" It's very powerful radio. | |||
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"I have just listened to the call and it reduced me to tears, but Iain Lee is a fucking hero Well done to the Emergency Services too xx" I haven't listened to it I don't think I could bare it. | |||
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"Well done for posting OP I've had some very dark Xmases in the last 4 years where I spent time on Xmas day alone. This reminds me that I need to be grateful for everything I have, everyone I have and through my continued endeavour to be kind and bring happiness to other people, what they will have in me.... Which is a friend and a person to talk to. It's a difficult time of year for some people.... I'm happy I've found my happy place for this year, and if you're reading this and need someone to talk to on Xmas day, I'll be right here for you xx " That's excellent that you feel in a better place this year. Always remember though that it is ok not to feel ok, we don't have to put a brave face on everything but we should always reach out and get support when needed. Hope you have a really fantastic Christmas. | |||
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"Well done for posting OP I've had some very dark Xmases in the last 4 years where I spent time on Xmas day alone. This reminds me that I need to be grateful for everything I have, everyone I have and through my continued endeavour to be kind and bring happiness to other people, what they will have in me.... Which is a friend and a person to talk to. It's a difficult time of year for some people.... I'm happy I've found my happy place for this year, and if you're reading this and need someone to talk to on Xmas day, I'll be right here for you xx That's excellent that you feel in a better place this year. Always remember though that it is ok not to feel ok, we don't have to put a brave face on everything but we should always reach out and get support when needed. Hope you have a really fantastic Christmas. " Thanks LornaJo.... Really appreciate that... I tried a brave face for years and it just ended up with d*unken sobbing. I now enjoy a happy d*unken state at Xmas instead | |||
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"Thanks for posting that OP. My father killed himself over 20 years ago. I can’t describe what it feels like for those of us left behind. Especially at this time of year. Anything that raises awareness and encourages others to get help is positive x " I'm so sorry to read that but thank you very much for sharing your story. Mental health is such a tricky subject but I think that it is absolutely vital that we talk about it even if sometimes it's very uncomfortable to talk about or listen to for that matter. | |||
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"If this was kiss,fuck,bollox thread it would have loads of post's by now......sad" Believe that! Crazy times... | |||
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"The sheer desperation and despair that someone feels to drive them to taking their own life makes my heart hurt. It's ok to not be ok. It's easy to say if you're feeling down, speak to someone. It's not easy to speak to someone when you are feeling down though. It's hard to seek help when you're in that place, because you just don't know what to do. Everyone should try to be mindful of the people around them, and reach out to anyone who appears to be struggling. Sometimes being asked are you ok is all it takes to give someone an outlet that could potentially save their life " This is good advice and I agree | |||
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"Thanks for posting that OP. My father killed himself over 20 years ago. I can’t describe what it feels like for those of us left behind. Especially at this time of year. Anything that raises awareness and encourages others to get help is positive x I'm so sorry to read that but thank you very much for sharing your story. Mental health is such a tricky subject but I think that it is absolutely vital that we talk about it even if sometimes it's very uncomfortable to talk about or listen to for that matter. " I couldn’t agree more. Thank you for your response x | |||
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"I saw that article. Good for him. x Was it all on air though? Surely they could have done it off air and played music in the meantime. This is the bit that gets me. The public airing of it. I don't know the ins and outs of it so I will reserve judgment but I know it's not something I'd want to hear for the sake of the man involved and his dignity. I agree with this. On the other hand though part of me feels that sometimes, if someone else is in the same situation, hearing or seeing the reality of taking your own life ( or trying to) might make them think twice about doing it and ask for help. Maybe more than one life was saved by that broadcast. It's a tough one Mrs" That makes sense, very good point. I bet it will have helped more people. | |||
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"Yes a popularity contest would fill up in minutes. Shows you how people have got some priorities wrong. A lot seem too busy to look in on others just to see how they are doing. " Some people are odd to say the least. My friend reached out to her friend when she was at rock bottom and felt like no-one would miss her if she ceased to exist. He asked her not to contact him again. Luckily his shit reaction gave her a kind of kick and got her out of her bad feeling. | |||
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" Iain Lee. I really hope the guy in Plymouth can pull through." should find out later jim. | |||
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"Did the caller want help?" I'm guessing that he wouldn't have called if he didn't or even if it was an attempt to gain notoriety he wouldn't have stayed on the line | |||
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"Did the caller want help?" If he didn't he wouldn't have reached out. We have a responsibility as a society to help people even if at that time they don't always want it. When someone is in such distress and not in a good/rational frame of mind then it's for others to step in and help in any way they can. | |||
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"Did the caller want help? If he didn't he wouldn't have reached out. We have a responsibility as a society to help people even if at that time they don't always want it. When someone is in such distress and not in a good/rational frame of mind then it's for others to step in and help in any way they can. " Samaritans (of which I was one for two years) see it differently. If we had a caller who claimed to have overdosed or whatever we would ask them (repeatedly) if they would like an ambulance. We would not try to trace them. As a society we seem to get very self congratulatory when we physically 'prevent' a suicide but have no problem ignoring the factors in soviety that lead to people wanting to kill themselves in the first place | |||
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"Did the caller want help? If he didn't he wouldn't have reached out. We have a responsibility as a society to help people even if at that time they don't always want it. When someone is in such distress and not in a good/rational frame of mind then it's for others to step in and help in any way they can. Samaritans (of which I was one for two years) see it differently. If we had a caller who claimed to have overdosed or whatever we would ask them (repeatedly) if they would like an ambulance. We would not try to trace them. As a society we seem to get very self congratulatory when we physically 'prevent' a suicide but have no problem ignoring the factors in soviety that lead to people wanting to kill themselves in the first place" I understand that but this person didn't call the Samaritans. They called a radio show. If somebody is reaching out and calling whether it be the Samaritans or anybody else surely are they not calling for help even if they say they don't want it. The point is for somebody to be at the point where they want to end their own life surely that means they're not in their right mind so do we not have a responsibility as a society to prevent that and actually is that not the law. | |||
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"I think the reason this person called Iain Lee is because of his human touch. Many people know of the battle Iain has had with local council over the care for his mum and the way she has been treated. He comes across on his programme as a genuine funny guy who cares about people. So some trust him even consider him a friend because of his personality and I would say that's why this person called his show. Is was real, no studio set up, no TV drama, this was someone who was dying through an overdose live on the radio. You can hear in Iain's voice the desperation and will to keep this man alive by talking to him. I'm sure Iain has done nothing but think about him all day and worried sick what may have happened if he had not been there. " I completely agree with all of this. I mentioned in a post further up the I think the caller probably felt safe with him because of his past experience. | |||
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"I think the reason this person called Iain Lee is because of his human touch. Many people know of the battle Iain has had with local council over the care for his mum and the way she has been treated. He comes across on his programme as a genuine funny guy who cares about people. So some trust him even consider him a friend because of his personality and I would say that's why this person called his show. Is was real, no studio set up, no TV drama, this was someone who was dying through an overdose live on the radio. You can hear in Iain's voice the desperation and will to keep this man alive by talking to him. I'm sure Iain has done nothing but think about him all day and worried sick what may have happened if he had not been there. " Absolutely | |||
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"O.P I love what you have written on your profile and that you have started this thread. A few people have shared their stories and I think it's absolutely vital that this is something that is talked about. " I couldn't agree more. It's important that mental health becomes more and more acceptable to talk about. Many people struggle with their mental health in silence and find it difficult to ask for help. Nita | |||
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"If this was kiss,fuck,bollox thread it would have loads of post's by now......sad" Why just post something so negative? | |||
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"O.P I love what you have written on your profile and that you have started this thread. A few people have shared their stories and I think it's absolutely vital that this is something that is talked about. I couldn't agree more. It's important that mental health becomes more and more acceptable to talk about. Many people struggle with their mental health in silence and find it difficult to ask for help. Nita" Absolutely!!! The word mental health is often one that people are a little bit afraid of. We all have mental health just like we have physical health, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad and sometimes is absolutely unbearable and we need help. | |||
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"If this was kiss,fuck,bollox thread it would have loads of post's by now......sad Why just post something so negative? " Negative?,I was highlighting the importance of this thread, however people were preferring to post in a fuck thread,plus I will post what opinions I feel like,just like you!! | |||
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"If this was kiss,fuck,bollox thread it would have loads of post's by now......sad Why just post something so negative? Negative?,I was highlighting the importance of this thread, however people were preferring to post in a fuck thread,plus I will post what opinions I feel like,just like you!!" I think at time's people come on here from the distraction of 'real' life and need something light hearted. It's not necessarily be because people don't care. | |||
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"If this was kiss,fuck,bollox thread it would have loads of post's by now......sad Why just post something so negative? Negative?,I was highlighting the importance of this thread, however people were preferring to post in a fuck thread,plus I will post what opinions I feel like,just like you!! I think at time's people come on here from the distraction of 'real' life and need something light hearted. It's not necessarily be because people don't care." Exactly this but also I think for a lot of people it's a very difficult subject to talk about. When speaking about mental health a lot of people worry they're going to say the wrong thing and hurt or offend somebody that's already troubled. That's why and I've said several times during this thread these conversations are vital. | |||
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"But its not always easy to reach out and talk to someone. The parasuicide person may have already closed themselves off from family and friends. Their a burden to society no one cares or wants to listen to.them. This is what they believe night time can be a very dark lonely place especially in the middle of the night I made numerous suicide attempts and only once did i actually ring someone. The other times i was just found unconscious. I never left notes or anything i.just wanted it over. Life can be pretty shit at times. ps i havent attempted suicide in 14 years the longest by along long way in my whole life" | |||
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"Did the caller want help? If he didn't he wouldn't have reached out. We have a responsibility as a society to help people even if at that time they don't always want it. When someone is in such distress and not in a good/rational frame of mind then it's for others to step in and help in any way they can. Samaritans (of which I was one for two years) see it differently. If we had a caller who claimed to have overdosed or whatever we would ask them (repeatedly) if they would like an ambulance. We would not try to trace them. As a society we seem to get very self congratulatory when we physically 'prevent' a suicide but have no problem ignoring the factors in soviety that lead to people wanting to kill themselves in the first place" The one time I used the Samaritans, they were so blasé and couldn't care less in their attitude that I have never called them again, no matter how hard life has been. They made me feel so much worse it out me off for life | |||
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"If your listening many have been sharing stories and saying how hearing what they did showed them the other side of this. Hopefully some will have the courage to speak and get help" Exactly that and it's opened up the conversation even on here. That can only be a good thing it's just a real shame that the poor man had to go through that. I really hope he's ok and can get some proper help. | |||
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"If your listening many have been sharing stories and saying how hearing what they did showed them the other side of this. Hopefully some will have the courage to speak and get help" Exactly | |||
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"If this was kiss,fuck,bollox thread it would have loads of post's by now......sad Why just post something so negative? Negative?,I was highlighting the importance of this thread, however people were preferring to post in a fuck thread,plus I will post what opinions I feel like,just like you!! I think at time's people come on here from the distraction of 'real' life and need something light hearted. It's not necessarily be because people don't care." The whole thread is about depression,it's not going to be a light hearted thread is it,it's for people who want to discuss depression | |||
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"If this was kiss,fuck,bollox thread it would have loads of post's by now......sad Why just post something so negative? Negative?,I was highlighting the importance of this thread, however people were preferring to post in a fuck thread,plus I will post what opinions I feel like,just like you!! I think at time's people come on here from the distraction of 'real' life and need something light hearted. It's not necessarily be because people don't care. The whole thread is about depression,it's not going to be a light hearted thread is it,it's for people who want to discuss depression" Of course it's not lighthearted that's what I'm saying. | |||
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"It had been mentioned on these forums many times about depression and people's mental health. If you haven't heard or read about this on Iain Lee's talk radio programme he kept a man from Plymouth on the air for 30 minutes as this caller had taken an overdose and wanted to die. It's very upsetting for some to listen too as the man is sluring his words and is in a dreadful state but Iain battled to keep him taking and trying to get his location to get him help. There are periods of uneasy silence in the call and while all this was going on the producer of the programme was tracking the caller down . Thankfully the police got there in just in time. So whatever your going through today or whenever never give up or think your alone. Your not. Stay safe and talk to someone." A very nice and kind thread, especially at this time of year as people tend to feel it more. | |||
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"If this was kiss,fuck,bollox thread it would have loads of post's by now......sad Why just post something so negative? Negative?,I was highlighting the importance of this thread, however people were preferring to post in a fuck thread,plus I will post what opinions I feel like,just like you!!" That's not how it came across. It came across as a sarcastic dig at forum users to be honest. Just because people haven't felt the need to respond to this one doesn't mean they haven't read it and understood the meaning or importance of it. Many, like myself may have experiences of people committing suicide or have worked supporting those during difficult times but felt that they couldn't add much more to the thread. I haven't L I stejed to the radio show so can't comment on that. I too question why it played out on air but also see the value in it by showing that if people try to reach out there will be people there who care. I dudjt say you couldn't list opinions, just questioned yours. Hit a nerve I guess. | |||
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"Did the caller want help? If he didn't he wouldn't have reached out. We have a responsibility as a society to help people even if at that time they don't always want it. When someone is in such distress and not in a good/rational frame of mind then it's for others to step in and help in any way they can. Samaritans (of which I was one for two years) see it differently. If we had a caller who claimed to have overdosed or whatever we would ask them (repeatedly) if they would like an ambulance. We would not try to trace them. As a society we seem to get very self congratulatory when we physically 'prevent' a suicide but have no problem ignoring the factors in soviety that lead to people wanting to kill themselves in the first place The one time I used the Samaritans, they were so blasé and couldn't care less in their attitude that I have never called them again, no matter how hard life has been. They made me feel so much worse it out me off for life " That's very sad. The samaritans are a great organisation who offer support to many people. They are all volunteers on the phones, emails, texts etc. I can understand that if you felt they didn't give you the support you needed at the time you might not want to give them a second chance but I will always signpost to them. They helped my nan so much for years after my uncle killed himself. | |||
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"It had been mentioned on these forums many times about depression and people's mental health. If you haven't heard or read about this on Iain Lee's talk radio programme he kept a man from Plymouth on the air for 30 minutes as this caller had taken an overdose and wanted to die. It's very upsetting for some to listen too as the man is sluring his words and is in a dreadful state but Iain battled to keep him taking and trying to get his location to get him help. There are periods of uneasy silence in the call and while all this was going on the producer of the programme was tracking the caller down . Thankfully the police got there in just in time. So whatever your going through today or whenever never give up or think your alone. Your not. Stay safe and talk to someone." There was a story of a kid, 14 I think playing a video game online. The random stranger online turned suicidal and the kid kept trying to play with him and told his parents the contact the police in the strangers country/state and saved this guys life apparently. | |||
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"Did the caller want help? If he didn't he wouldn't have reached out. We have a responsibility as a society to help people even if at that time they don't always want it. When someone is in such distress and not in a good/rational frame of mind then it's for others to step in and help in any way they can. Samaritans (of which I was one for two years) see it differently. If we had a caller who claimed to have overdosed or whatever we would ask them (repeatedly) if they would like an ambulance. We would not try to trace them. As a society we seem to get very self congratulatory when we physically 'prevent' a suicide but have no problem ignoring the factors in soviety that lead to people wanting to kill themselves in the first place The one time I used the Samaritans, they were so blasé and couldn't care less in their attitude that I have never called them again, no matter how hard life has been. They made me feel so much worse it out me off for life " Hope you're ok now. xxxx | |||
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