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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

More people than ever before are relying on food banks. It must be the worst thing ever to be living on baked beans then a food porn advert comes on. Cheese dripping off some bread. A steak sizzling.

Should food adverts be banned?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

bit extreme don’t ya think.

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

As a single male, I feel all adverts showing happy families should be banned.

And I can't afford a new car, so ban those ads too.

But adverts are always aspirational. Trying to imply that life / Xmas will be ruined if you don't have the right box of sweets or fizzy drink.

Don't blame the adverts, blame politicians supporting the big banks who took this country into austerity and food banks, whilst still getting obscene bonuses.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think food advertising that uses our psychology against us and contributes to the obesity crisis is where I'd target a ban.

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm too poor to buy a new television, so I don't have that problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt? "

You can't just turn up and take food. You have to be eligible.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt?

You can't just turn up and take food. You have to be eligible. "

And you can't use them whenever you feel like it.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

I can't afford to buy a house.... Should estate agents be banned?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt? "

Your doctor, social worker, school or college or DHSS has to refer you. There is a limit on how many times you can go. The kind of people who use them are teenagers in college with alcoholic parents who spend the money in booze, young families with eight week old babies whose self employed wage earner has fallen ill and doesn't qualify for full benefits yet. You know that sort of person just wanting something for nothing.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt? "

I did use food banks and soup kitchens about 5 years ago when I had just moved into this flat and was down on ma heels so to speak. There were a few folk that spent any money that they had on drink & drugs, then rocked up at these places. Yeah sure, I like a drink, but food, electric and paying the bills comes first surely?

Anyway OP, to answer your question, I doubt that the vast majority of people who need to use these facilities have access to a TV anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"More people than ever before are relying on food banks. It must be the worst thing ever to be living on baked beans then a food porn advert comes on. Cheese dripping off some bread. A steak sizzling.

Should food adverts be banned?"

I can't afford a holiday. It's not Thomas cooks fault

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I don't think banning food adverts is the answer, the problem goes much deeper than that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Those M&S ads were pretty decent!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt?

You can't just turn up and take food. You have to be eligible.

And you can't use them whenever you feel like it. "

In Derby at least, you have to take a Bank Statement to the Council House, to prove that you're actually skin along with other forms of id., and they will give you a parcel and a £20 voucher for gas/electric. You can apply once a week

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

*skint

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By *andybeachWoman
over a year ago

In the middle

If people have to rely on food banks what makes you think they have enough money to put in the electric to watch the tv or even have a tv.

There are a lot of us that can just about manage day to day life but can not afford the luxuries, we can’t ban everything in life just because it’s not fair on others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"More people than ever before are relying on food banks. It must be the worst thing ever to be living on baked beans then a food porn advert comes on. Cheese dripping off some bread. A steak sizzling.

Should food adverts be banned?"

No! Charity adverts showing starving naked children should be banned.

Anyone trying to ruin my dinner is an arse hole.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"More people than ever before are relying on food banks. It must be the worst thing ever to be living on baked beans then a food porn advert comes on. Cheese dripping off some bread. A steak sizzling.

Should food adverts be banned?

No! Charity adverts showing starving naked children should be banned.

Anyone trying to ruin my dinner is an arse hole."

That's the spirit

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"If people have to rely on food banks what makes you think they have enough money to put in the electric to watch the tv or even have a tv.

There are a lot of us that can just about manage day to day life but can not afford the luxuries, we can’t ban everything in life just because it’s not fair on others."

This about sums it up

It's ridiculous to ban anything just because some people can't have it - if we did we'd be back to the stone age.

The problem of food banks or poverty in general has other ways of being fixed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think food advertising that uses our psychology against us and contributes to the obesity crisis is where I'd target a ban. "

Obiesity crisis caused by people who don't exercise.

They need a kick up the arse but they make excuses.

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Socialists want to ban everything...

The thing is I do volenteer work for charity and I've been to 3 rd world countries where starving orphans beg me for my chrisps/sandwiches.

It's very important not to force guilt on people for eating.

Nobody genuinely cares about the poor. Nobody genuinely helps them...

If you want to make a difference go help Cambodian orphans. But let me eat my dinner.

I need perfect intake or I get unhealthy and my health shouldn't suffer due to liberal/socialist principals.

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Tell you what van all adverts then charge £1000 min for tv licenses it would be minimum of this

So let’s ask the question again ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes along with the low end credit cards and pay day loans/hp companies that promise to accept you at rediculous APR rates.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving. "

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes along with the low end credit cards and pay day loans/hp companies that promise to accept you at rediculous APR rates."

I agree! I really don't understand how these companies are allowed to be in business.

But if they were banned would that solve the underlying issue.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?"

Quite.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As a single male, I feel all adverts showing happy families should be banned.

And I can't afford a new car, so ban those ads too.

But adverts are always aspirational. Trying to imply that life / Xmas will be ruined if you don't have the right box of sweets or fizzy drink.

Don't blame the adverts, blame politicians supporting the big banks who took this country into austerity and food banks, whilst still getting obscene bonuses."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well the M&S one I watched with a melted Camembert worked...I’m heading there soon. So yes please ban them to save my ass!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt?

I did use food banks and soup kitchens about 5 years ago when I had just moved into this flat and was down on ma heels so to speak. There were a few folk that spent any money that they had on drink & drugs, then rocked up at these places. Yeah sure, I like a drink, but food, electric and paying the bills comes first surely?

Anyway OP, to answer your question, I doubt that the vast majority of people who need to use these facilities have access to a TV anyway. "

If I was really skint I reckon I'd want to be pissed all the time too, just to get away from the feelings. Fuck the electric bill, give me a bottle of wine.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt?

I did use food banks and soup kitchens about 5 years ago when I had just moved into this flat and was down on ma heels so to speak. There were a few folk that spent any money that they had on drink & drugs, then rocked up at these places. Yeah sure, I like a drink, but food, electric and paying the bills comes first surely?

Anyway OP, to answer your question, I doubt that the vast majority of people who need to use these facilities have access to a TV anyway.

If I was really skint I reckon I'd want to be pissed all the time too, just to get away from the feelings. Fuck the electric bill, give me a bottle of wine. "

Self medicating. I'm stuck, I can't get out, at least I'll forget for awhile. It's actually perfectly understandable.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?"
its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

Enticing people to shop for food means there's a potential for more people to donate to the food bank trollies; I put more luxury items in them this time of year... sadly cheese doesn't keep but, nice chocs, chake and biscuits... do - don't forget the essentials though! Female sanitary items also.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"Enticing people to shop for food means there's a potential for more people to donate to the food bank trollies; I put more luxury items in them this time of year... sadly cheese doesn't keep but, nice chocs, chake and biscuits... do - don't forget the essentials though! Female sanitary items also. "
i do that. all year i put "normal" stuff in this week i put christmas goodies in

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ban all advertising and people can just buy what they need

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All adverts would have to be banned as there will always be someone who can’t afford a particular item. Wether it be food or brand new cars.

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"Ban all advertising and people can just buy what they need "

Bill Hicks fan

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Enticing people to shop for food means there's a potential for more people to donate to the food bank trollies; I put more luxury items in them this time of year... sadly cheese doesn't keep but, nice chocs, chake and biscuits... do - don't forget the essentials though! Female sanitary items also. "

I love that positive slant on it, thank you! Great point.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Ban bans I say.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet"

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Enticing people to shop for food means there's a potential for more people to donate to the food bank trollies; I put more luxury items in them this time of year... sadly cheese doesn't keep but, nice chocs, chake and biscuits... do - don't forget the essentials though! Female sanitary items also.

I love that positive slant on it, thank you! Great point. "

The point about it not just being food is very important too. Period poverty is a very real and incredibly embarrassing situation.

I keep meaning to buy and donate a menstrual cup or 2.

Nita

Nita

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone". "

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Ban the butthurt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x"

Best idea sooo far!

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Nothing against food advertising but what should be banned is those bloody loan companies you know the ones Wonga etc etc

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing. "

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Enticing people to shop for food means there's a potential for more people to donate to the food bank trollies; I put more luxury items in them this time of year... sadly cheese doesn't keep but, nice chocs, chake and biscuits... do - don't forget the essentials though! Female sanitary items also.

I love that positive slant on it, thank you! Great point.

The point about it not just being food is very important too. Period poverty is a very real and incredibly embarrassing situation.

I keep meaning to buy and donate a menstrual cup or 2.

Nita

Nita"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x"

Ban socialism...

Labour party putting us in debt to the central banks is what ruins everything.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing. "
yes. Relative poverty its too long since i did sociology to remember what the poverty line was

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x

Ban socialism...

Labour party putting us in debt to the central banks is what ruins everything."
ban the central banks

Think I've said that before

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"More people than ever before are relying on food banks. It must be the worst thing ever to be living on baked beans then a food porn advert comes on. Cheese dripping off some bread. A steak sizzling.

Should food adverts be banned?"

To even things out heinz should get nigella to make a sultry advert for baked beans.

Ps I don't class baked beans as second class food, they're cheap and yummy

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"I think food advertising that uses our psychology against us and contributes to the obesity crisis is where I'd target a ban. "

Yes absolutely. Obesity is an epidemic in this country.

Totally disagree with the OP on this one. People who use food banks are not starving.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. I can't afford a holiday to the Maldives. Should them ads be banned aswell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Enticing people to shop for food means there's a potential for more people to donate to the food bank trollies; I put more luxury items in them this time of year... sadly cheese doesn't keep but, nice chocs, chake and biscuits... do - don't forget the essentials though! Female sanitary items also. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt? "

You have to be refered to use them, you can't just rock up and fill your boots!

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By *essandpatCouple
over a year ago

chester

Yes as I want to eat all the food, and the Christmas adds, the Christmas Dinner with all the trimming that someone else has cooked mmmm please x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google. "

What a crock of shite!

Thanks for the info though x

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing. "

That’s the fairly meaningless UN definition IIRC.

*Absolute* poverty is something rather different and doesn’t really exist in the U.K.

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google.

What a crock of shite!

Thanks for the info though x"

I didn’t have you down as a lefty?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google.

What a crock of shite!

Thanks for the info though x

I didn’t have you down as a lefty?! "

Hmmmmm lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we ban Aftershave ads as well. I spray plenty on but don't have women falling at my feet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x

Ban socialism...

Labour party putting us in debt to the central banks is what ruins everything. ban the central banks

Think I've said that before "

I don't think central banks and Rothschild are evil.

I think borrowing from them at a high rate is part of illuminati style adgenda.

I see them more as a business than something evil and sinister.

I just have sence reguarding debt. I am from a semi German upbringing and my dad owned a small business. I wrote an essay at university in 2007 about debt and a future recession.

My lecturer laughed me off when we discussed Germans and credit cards/credit payments...

The next year she came to me and aknowledged how right I was.

Buying now and paying 15-20% extra in the long run isn't good financial planning.

I know my family is worth something in real assets. Not financed cars and fancy flash things the bank owns.

The sad reality is that sheeple and government's get into debt while my farther must pay his taxes to bail out the country and peasants who took too many credit cards.

Also he claims to be the true farther of all the illigitimate children because his taxes paid for them.

I can't knock the Germans (My dad) and their business ideas/financial planning.

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Merton

So are the BBC doing something right with no adverts?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

That’s the fairly meaningless UN definition IIRC.

*Absolute* poverty is something rather different and doesn’t really exist in the U.K. "

Well no, but if you can't afford to keep up with a minimum acceptable standard then your life choices are radically diminished.

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x

Ban socialism...

Labour party putting us in debt to the central banks is what ruins everything. ban the central banks

Think I've said that before

I don't think central banks and Rothschild are evil.

I think borrowing from them at a high rate is part of illuminati style adgenda.

I see them more as a business than something evil and sinister.

I just have sence reguarding debt. I am from a semi German upbringing and my dad owned a small business. I wrote an essay at university in 2007 about debt and a future recession.

My lecturer laughed me off when we discussed Germans and credit cards/credit payments...

The next year she came to me and aknowledged how right I was.

Buying now and paying 15-20% extra in the long run isn't good financial planning.

I know my family is worth something in real assets. Not financed cars and fancy flash things the bank owns.

The sad reality is that sheeple and government's get into debt while my farther must pay his taxes to bail out the country and peasants who took too many credit cards.

Also he claims to be the true farther of all the illigitimate children because his taxes paid for them.

I can't knock the Germans (My dad) and their business ideas/financial planning.

"

Watch Confessions of an Economic hitman mate. You'll like it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think food advertising that uses our psychology against us and contributes to the obesity crisis is where I'd target a ban.

Obiesity crisis caused by people who don't exercise.

They need a kick up the arse but they make excuses."

Or they are so riddled with the side effects of cancer treatment they can barely move let alone form a coherent argument against ignorance

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By *uartz24Man
over a year ago

Barnsley

Ban the snowflakes who are offended by just about anything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can never get a meet , ban fab and stop flaunting all those boobs at me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

food adverts dont need to be banned

theres billions in unclaimed prizes sitting in the nationallottery bank which is accruing interest everyday in the bank

so really there shouldnt begenuinely homeless hungry people .

government building new homes is only ticking boxes.

most cant afford runing costs of food let alone a home .

i'm sure there another answer ,like strictly managed caravan parks , allowing people to put little studio flats the sizeof a caravan for example at the end of there garden....you know what i'm trying to say .

get to the heart of the problem and fix it , no point in trimming things off the edges..

on saying that its thousands/millions for an advert on the tv , why waste that money in the first place..likewise the amount of food daily a supermarket bins ,incinerates , or whatever with not tomuch wrong with it , id say no village or town would have a hungry person ..

Also if the government house a person /family , then in return the family could and should work if able bodied . so give them unpaid workin return for housing them .

easier said than done all the above but ive been hearing the same homeless/hungry/housing/people on the street story for 25 years, the government talk the talk but never in my lifetime fix anything.

(bit like brexit , how many years have we been giving millions to the EU for zero benefit?which is now in the billions !! should be spending the money on our own people and country)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google.

What a crock of shite!

Thanks for the info though x

I didn’t have you down as a lefty?!

Hmmmmm lol "

even if the wage is that , your out the house away from your family 15 hours a day to get it , just enough time to eat and sleep whenyou get home !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Watch Confessions of an Economic hitman mate. You'll like it "

Appology for the off topic rant lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am of the opinion that a blanket ban on all advertising would benefit society as a whole when you consider factors other than food or telling is what the perfect lifestyle looks like there the self image issues caused by the glossy mags etc all advertising is doing is trying to make us feel guilty for not wanting shit we don’t need

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

That’s the fairly meaningless UN definition IIRC.

*Absolute* poverty is something rather different and doesn’t really exist in the U.K.

Well no, but if you can't afford to keep up with a minimum acceptable standard then your life choices are radically diminished. "

Tell that to my friend who grew up on a sink estate and is now a management consultant.

Plenty of opportunity in this country, “poverty” in the U.K. seems to involve council houses, flat screen TVs, obesity and always enough benefit money left over for booze and fags.

I did a township tour in South Africa a few years back. Now that was real, grinding, poverty. Entire families in one room, no electricity, no running water, no healthcare, no education.

People in this country don’t know they’re born...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

People in this country don’t know they’re born... "

This is very true. My condo was built in the middle of a tin shack slum. All the peasants beneath me we're subject to the tropical slum conditions while I blasted my airconditioning.

But these people were very nice clean poor people who had standards and were not criminal moped muggers. I could leave my door open.

the 3rd world proves crime and poverty don't correlate.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

That’s the fairly meaningless UN definition IIRC.

*Absolute* poverty is something rather different and doesn’t really exist in the U.K.

Well no, but if you can't afford to keep up with a minimum acceptable standard then your life choices are radically diminished.

Tell that to my friend who grew up on a sink estate and is now a management consultant.

Plenty of opportunity in this country, “poverty” in the U.K. seems to involve council houses, flat screen TVs, obesity and always enough benefit money left over for booze and fags.

I did a township tour in South Africa a few years back. Now that was real, grinding, poverty. Entire families in one room, no electricity, no running water, no healthcare, no education.

People in this country don’t know they’re born... "

Just because some can, doesn't mean that all can or that there isn't suffering incurred in doing so.

I'm not arguing that relative poverty and absolute poverty are the same, but without a certain level of opportunity and resources, it's very difficult to get by, and there are additional hardships faced.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had anyone ever seen working conditions inside JD warehouse rochdale?

It's been on the news.

I don't expect anyone to take a job like that over unemployment. I fully respect someone who chooses to be unemployed instead of working for a large internet warehouse.

Many people would argue some narcasistic viewpoint "I've always worked and never claimed a penny"

^^^but you had to work in some warehouses (e.g. JD sports) for a long period of time you might understand why many (non lazy) people would choose unemployment vs jobcenter type jobs.

People who work for JD sports mega warehouse are like chinise factory peasents...

I challenge anyone to work in JD sports warehouse for 1 week (it's very easy to instantly start work)

But it's NOT an opportunity!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I'm not arguing that relative poverty and absolute poverty are the same, but without a certain level of opportunity and resources, it's very difficult to get by, and there are additional hardships faced. "

I've seen people living hand to mouth existence in the 3rd world.

In SOME of these places though the homeless peasants have an abundance of warm weather and half decent street food/free water..

^^^this is preferable to the homeless people in UK who sleep outside in winter.

The homeless people in south east Asia are living better than homeless people in UK.

However Africans don't because they have so much crime/corruption/conflict

And Indians don't live better because they have bad hygine and sanitation in India.

It is better to be homeless in a friendly warm 3rd world country than in London or Manchester in winter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x

Ban socialism...

Labour party putting us in debt to the central banks is what ruins everything. ban the central banks

Think I've said that before

I don't think central banks and Rothschild are evil.

I think borrowing from them at a high rate is part of illuminati style adgenda.

I see them more as a business than something evil and sinister.

I just have sence reguarding debt. I am from a semi German upbringing and my dad owned a small business. I wrote an essay at university in 2007 about debt and a future recession.

My lecturer laughed me off when we discussed Germans and credit cards/credit payments...

The next year she came to me and aknowledged how right I was.

Buying now and paying 15-20% extra in the long run isn't good financial planning.

I know my family is worth something in real assets. Not financed cars and fancy flash things the bank owns.

The sad reality is that sheeple and government's get into debt while my farther must pay his taxes to bail out the country and peasants who took too many credit cards.

Also he claims to be the true farther of all the illigitimate children because his taxes paid for them.

I can't knock the Germans (My dad) and their business ideas/financial planning.

Watch Confessions of an Economic hitman mate. You'll like it "

OMG! how I laughed

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x

Ban socialism...

Labour party putting us in debt to the central banks is what ruins everything. ban the central banks

Think I've said that before

I don't think central banks and Rothschild are evil.

I think borrowing from them at a high rate is part of illuminati style adgenda.

I see them more as a business than something evil and sinister.

I just have sence reguarding debt. I am from a semi German upbringing and my dad owned a small business. I wrote an essay at university in 2007 about debt and a future recession.

My lecturer laughed me off when we discussed Germans and credit cards/credit payments...

The next year she came to me and aknowledged how right I was.

Buying now and paying 15-20% extra in the long run isn't good financial planning.

I know my family is worth something in real assets. Not financed cars and fancy flash things the bank owns.

The sad reality is that sheeple and government's get into debt while my farther must pay his taxes to bail out the country and peasants who took too many credit cards.

Also he claims to be the true farther of all the illigitimate children because his taxes paid for them.

I can't knock the Germans (My dad) and their business ideas/financial planning.

Watch Confessions of an Economic hitman mate. You'll like it

OMG! how I laughed "

Did you watch it Bold ?

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By *rkeb3Man
over a year ago

east Lancashire road

I volunteered n worked for 3 months 2 days a week

1st of all its not that easy to get it u got be eligible u got be homeless or can't offerd food n have paper works to prove it

2nd the food isn't that good n it is almost on its expire dates u can only keep it for about 10 max n ther are no many people that uses unless they really need it

So I don't think u can ban it over that

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I try to donate nice food to food banks. Stuff I'd eat, that's nutritious.

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

That’s the fairly meaningless UN definition IIRC.

*Absolute* poverty is something rather different and doesn’t really exist in the U.K.

Well no, but if you can't afford to keep up with a minimum acceptable standard then your life choices are radically diminished.

Tell that to my friend who grew up on a sink estate and is now a management consultant.

Plenty of opportunity in this country, “poverty” in the U.K. seems to involve council houses, flat screen TVs, obesity and always enough benefit money left over for booze and fags.

I did a township tour in South Africa a few years back. Now that was real, grinding, poverty. Entire families in one room, no electricity, no running water, no healthcare, no education.

People in this country don’t know they’re born...

Just because some can, doesn't mean that all can or that there isn't suffering incurred in doing so.

I'm not arguing that relative poverty and absolute poverty are the same, but without a certain level of opportunity and resources, it's very difficult to get by, and there are additional hardships faced. "

I don’t disagree with you there.

There is a tendency to conflate relative and absolute poverty in the U.K. which I find irritating (I’m not saying you are doing that, but others do).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x

Ban socialism...

Labour party putting us in debt to the central banks is what ruins everything. ban the central banks

Think I've said that before

I don't think central banks and Rothschild are evil.

I think borrowing from them at a high rate is part of illuminati style adgenda.

I see them more as a business than something evil and sinister.

I just have sence reguarding debt. I am from a semi German upbringing and my dad owned a small business. I wrote an essay at university in 2007 about debt and a future recession.

My lecturer laughed me off when we discussed Germans and credit cards/credit payments...

The next year she came to me and aknowledged how right I was.

Buying now and paying 15-20% extra in the long run isn't good financial planning.

I know my family is worth something in real assets. Not financed cars and fancy flash things the bank owns.

The sad reality is that sheeple and government's get into debt while my farther must pay his taxes to bail out the country and peasants who took too many credit cards.

Also he claims to be the true farther of all the illigitimate children because his taxes paid for them.

I can't knock the Germans (My dad) and their business ideas/financial planning.

Watch Confessions of an Economic hitman mate. You'll like it

OMG! how I laughed

Did you watch it Bold ?"

John Perkins - You Tube

Haven't read the book, I MUST buy it!

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x

Ban socialism...

Labour party putting us in debt to the central banks is what ruins everything. ban the central banks

Think I've said that before

I don't think central banks and Rothschild are evil.

I think borrowing from them at a high rate is part of illuminati style adgenda.

I see them more as a business than something evil and sinister.

I just have sence reguarding debt. I am from a semi German upbringing and my dad owned a small business. I wrote an essay at university in 2007 about debt and a future recession.

My lecturer laughed me off when we discussed Germans and credit cards/credit payments...

The next year she came to me and aknowledged how right I was.

Buying now and paying 15-20% extra in the long run isn't good financial planning.

I know my family is worth something in real assets. Not financed cars and fancy flash things the bank owns.

The sad reality is that sheeple and government's get into debt while my farther must pay his taxes to bail out the country and peasants who took too many credit cards.

Also he claims to be the true farther of all the illigitimate children because his taxes paid for them.

I can't knock the Germans (My dad) and their business ideas/financial planning.

Watch Confessions of an Economic hitman mate. You'll like it

OMG! how I laughed

Did you watch it Bold ?

John Perkins - You Tube

Haven't read the book, I MUST buy it! "

Good to know someone else has got their eyes open. Read anything by Noam Chomsky aswell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban the snowflakes who are offended by just about anything

"

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I think food advertising that uses our psychology against us and contributes to the obesity crisis is where I'd target a ban.

Yes absolutely. Obesity is an epidemic in this country.

Totally disagree with the OP on this one. People who use food banks are not starving. "

Should the criteria for using food banks be changed so that you have to be literally starving? As in days away from death or severe malnourishment?

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham


"Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt? "

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"I think food advertising that uses our psychology against us and contributes to the obesity crisis is where I'd target a ban.

Yes absolutely. Obesity is an epidemic in this country.

Totally disagree with the OP on this one. People who use food banks are not starving.

Should the criteria for using food banks be changed so that you have to be literally starving? As in days away from death or severe malnourishment?"

No, clearly they serve a purpose, but there’s no need for a pity party about how people who use them might be upset by Christmas food adverts, either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

May as well ban fitness adverts because fatties will be offended?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ban everything then there’ll be nothing left to complain about!!

Oh wait ......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One thing I love about threads like this is that it massively helps to cut down the play partner potentials !

However the points about poverty being subjective are very valid as society and it’s expectations vary from cultures and nationality especially when most people in first and third world societies have no idea about each other for example you can hunt and gather in some places without going to prison for poaching or having to prove ID just to exist on a basic level

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x

Ban socialism...

Labour party putting us in debt to the central banks is what ruins everything. ban the central banks

Think I've said that before

I don't think central banks and Rothschild are evil.

I think borrowing from them at a high rate is part of illuminati style adgenda.

I see them more as a business than something evil and sinister.

I just have sence reguarding debt. I am from a semi German upbringing and my dad owned a small business. I wrote an essay at university in 2007 about debt and a future recession.

My lecturer laughed me off when we discussed Germans and credit cards/credit payments...

The next year she came to me and aknowledged how right I was.

Buying now and paying 15-20% extra in the long run isn't good financial planning.

I know my family is worth something in real assets. Not financed cars and fancy flash things the bank owns.

The sad reality is that sheeple and government's get into debt while my farther must pay his taxes to bail out the country and peasants who took too many credit cards.

Also he claims to be the true farther of all the illigitimate children because his taxes paid for them.

I can't knock the Germans (My dad) and their business ideas/financial planning.

Watch Confessions of an Economic hitman mate. You'll like it

OMG! how I laughed

Did you watch it Bold ?

John Perkins - You Tube

Haven't read the book, I MUST buy it!

Good to know someone else has got their eyes open. Read anything by Noam Chomsky aswell "

Thank you - will do! X

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"One thing I love about threads like this is that it massively helps to cut down the play partner potentials !

"

Indeed.

Right-leaning, well educated, 40% tax payers for me, please.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google. "

I see this, and it makes me cringe.

Where the fuck do they get their figure from?

Around here, I doubt if 10% of people earn that.

A vast majority of folks are on minimum wage (£7.83), and doing 40 hours a week... so that's a little over 16k before tax etc.

These people doing the sums need to get their heads out of their arses!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"One thing I love about threads like this is that it massively helps to cut down the play partner potentials !

Indeed.

Right-leaning, well educated, 40% tax payers for me, please. "

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google.

I see this, and it makes me cringe.

Where the fuck do they get their figure from?

Around here, I doubt if 10% of people earn that.

A vast majority of folks are on minimum wage (£7.83), and doing 40 hours a week... so that's a little over 16k before tax etc.

These people doing the sums need to get their heads out of their arses!"

Pretty sure the £27k figure is the mean figure, median would be more reflective of reality.

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"One thing I love about threads like this is that it massively helps to cut down the play partner potentials !

Indeed.

Right-leaning, well educated, 40% tax payers for me, please.

"

See, we do agree on some things .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"One thing I love about threads like this is that it massively helps to cut down the play partner potentials !

Indeed.

Right-leaning, well educated, 40% tax payers for me, please.

See, we do agree on some things . "

Wouldn’t dare agree with anything you said my lovely. For fear of being tied up and stoned in the market square. You do make me giggle though.

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"One thing I love about threads like this is that it massively helps to cut down the play partner potentials !

Indeed.

Right-leaning, well educated, 40% tax payers for me, please.

See, we do agree on some things .

Wouldn’t dare agree with anything you said my lovely. For fear of being tied up and stoned in the market square. You do make me giggle though. "

I wouldn’t be so sure. I have a rapidly growing fan base on here.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Of course we shouldn’t ban food advertising . It creates jobs and work opportunities within the media sector , and increase the business of the advertisers thus creating jobs within the food sector .

What a bloody ridiculous world we would be living in if we stopped advertising because some people couldn’t afford the items being advertised . I can’t afford a brand new Jaguar car , but I don’t want to ban them advertising it .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"One thing I love about threads like this is that it massively helps to cut down the play partner potentials !

Indeed.

Right-leaning, well educated, 40% tax payers for me, please. "

You can still be left winged and educated!

You're missing out on half of your audience sweetheart!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ban all those quiz programmes too where people win loads of money! It’s not fair. And while they’re at it ban those places in the sun programmes too. It’s not fair on those that can’t afford holiday homes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google.

What a crock of shite!

Thanks for the info though x

I didn’t have you down as a lefty?!

Hmmmmm lol "

Oh and I'm NOT btw....

Just an open realistic mind!

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google.

What a crock of shite!

Thanks for the info though x

I didn’t have you down as a lefty?!

Hmmmmm lol

Oh and I'm NOT btw....

Just an open realistic mind! "

I knew it. You’re too sensible to be left wing .

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I think food advertising that uses our psychology against us and contributes to the obesity crisis is where I'd target a ban.

Yes absolutely. Obesity is an epidemic in this country.

Totally disagree with the OP on this one. People who use food banks are not starving.

Should the criteria for using food banks be changed so that you have to be literally starving? As in days away from death or severe malnourishment?

No, clearly they serve a purpose, but there’s no need for a pity party about how people who use them might be upset by Christmas food adverts, either. "

I think the op was a discussion point rather than a pity party.

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google.

What a crock of shite!

Thanks for the info though x

I didn’t have you down as a lefty?!

Hmmmmm lol

Oh and I'm NOT btw....

Just an open realistic mind! "

Sensible mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

You can still be left winged and educated!

"

Yes but you grow out of childish immature concepts reguarding social justice as you mature and travel.

Students tend to live in a philosophical bubble because most teachers are left leaning.

Alot of conservative politicly minded people were left leaning untill they got "red pilled".

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"

You can still be left winged and educated!

Yes but you grow out of childish immature concepts reguarding social justice as you mature and travel.

Students tend to live in a philosophical bubble because most teachers are left leaning.

Alot of conservative politicly minded people were left leaning untill they got "red pilled".

"

Quite right.

Someone should tell Jeremy Corbyn, but then he isn’t very bright, so probably wouldn’t listen.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x"

Vote in Corbyn, then everyone will be queuing at food banks, with no tv's or cars to worry about...

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock

Think you all should read about unregulated banks myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x

Vote in Corbyn, then everyone will be queuing at food banks, with no tv's or cars to worry about..."

Will be like every other socialist country in history.

Venezuala

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think you all should read about unregulated banks myself "

I know about the bank of England and federal reserve.

They are private businesses and left wing people think they offer unlimited funds but they have smallprint and impossible payback clauses.

Rockerfella and Rothschild dynasty who have fingers in all pies...

Eg league of nations/world health organization/media/banking

I don't blame them for being smart. It's people like corbyn who are the traitors. The banks are just trying to make profit.

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"Think you all should read about unregulated banks myself

I know about the bank of England and federal reserve.

They are private businesses and left wing people think they offer unlimited funds but they have smallprint and impossible payback clauses.

Rockerfella and Rothschild dynasty who have fingers in all pies...

Eg league of nations/world health organization/media/banking

I don't blame them for being smart. It's people like corbyn who are the traitors. The banks are just trying to make profit.

"

The Bank of England is not a private business.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Karl Marx was a big supporter of the central banking system.

That's enough proof the left are hypocrites and liars.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

The Bank of England is not a private business. "

It's owned by the rothschilds

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"Ban the Tories

People won't need food banks then x

Vote in Corbyn, then everyone will be queuing at food banks, with no tv's or cars to worry about...

Will be like every other socialist country in history.

Venezuala "

Watch that documentary I told you to watch

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"

The Bank of England is not a private business.

It's owned by the rothschilds"

No, that’s a conspiracy theory.

It’s wholly owned by the treasury solicitor on behalf of the government.

Google is your friend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Queen visits the rothschilds at bank of england

I admire the rothschilds.

I fully support the illuminati and will eat my popcorn while the sheeple do as they are told and get "flu jab".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

The Bank of England is not a private business.

It's owned by the rothschilds

No, that’s a conspiracy theory.

It’s wholly owned by the treasury solicitor on behalf of the government.

Google is your friend. "

I just googled the queen visiting them at the bank.

This websight won't let me post the link.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google.

What a crock of shite!

Thanks for the info though x

I didn’t have you down as a lefty?!

Hmmmmm lol

Oh and I'm NOT btw....

Just an open realistic mind!

I knew it. You’re too sensible to be left wing . "

So that's a NO to shagging a left-wing nice body, tits and a fabulous educated mind?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt? "

It's real need and great to give to them any time but especially now as thousands can be supported to have a Christmas dinner etc, if we all give as much as we can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Course you would Whitey!

Politics and all that bollocks, isn't more important than good old fashioned, get down and dirty FUN!

Btw Your current situation, is what we call virtual GAGGING whitey!!!

Ahhh the peace LOL

Mwah xxx

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By *9bottMan
over a year ago

chester

I think we should ban Christmas..British society gets more secular year after year , more people reject Christian believes and values.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This thread is about to descend into the old opinion on the deserving and undeserving poor.

We need to break out of victorian attitudes and try to find solutions that do more than stop people starving.

Aren't we back to victorian times with so many people living in poverty?

its funny you say that i was discussing mack&lansey and rowntree the other day. I was going to compare there idea of poverty line to todays. Havent got round to it yet

I don't know who they are. I'd be interested in how it could be compared. Maybe the poverty line today is "doesn't own a smartphone".

I seem to recall reading that poverty is below a certain percentage of the average wage. Can't afford to keep up with an acceptable standard of living compared to others, sort of thing.

Average UK wage appears to be £27,600 according to Google.

What a crock of shite!

Thanks for the info though x"

What is shite?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think food advertising that uses our psychology against us and contributes to the obesity crisis is where I'd target a ban.

Yes absolutely. Obesity is an epidemic in this country.

Totally disagree with the OP on this one. People who use food banks are not starving.

Should the criteria for using food banks be changed so that you have to be literally starving? As in days away from death or severe malnourishment?

No, clearly they serve a purpose, but there’s no need for a pity party about how people who use them might be upset by Christmas food adverts, either.

I think the op was a discussion point rather than a pity party."

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

MK

dont care really, havent watched a advert in years, always skip them or go on the phone when they come on, usually can play a entire song within the ad break.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are more people genuinely relying on food banks due to dickensian style poverty or are they getting used more because it's free and some people will just have owt for nowt?

It's real need and great to give to them any time but especially now as thousands can be supported to have a Christmas dinner etc, if we all give as much as we can "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do love the idea that banning anything makes the slightest difference to how people live

Another example of the wrong solution to any problem, perhaps?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The responses in this thread demonstrate what a perfectly divided nation we have become

We have been played like fiddles by successive governments, corporations and the media

Vulgar terms like 'snowflake' used to demean those with a conscience

We really are a repulsive society

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To answer the OP, food ads should stay

I like a good food perve - it doesn't make me want to rush out and buy it though

The waste associated with the greed of some should be shared amongst those who find themselves in a predicament they probably did not choose for themselves

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To answer the OP, food ads should stay

I like a good food perve - it doesn't make me want to rush out and buy it though

The waste associated with the greed of some should be shared amongst those who find themselves in a predicament they probably did not choose for themselves"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I do love the idea that banning anything makes the slightest difference to how people live

Another example of the wrong solution to any problem, perhaps? "

What solution would you suggest?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The responses in this thread demonstrate what a perfectly divided nation we have become

We have been played like fiddles by successive governments, corporations and the media

Vulgar terms like 'snowflake' used to demean those with a conscience

We really are a repulsive society"

Best quote on this thread!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The responses in this thread demonstrate what a perfectly divided nation we have become

We have been played like fiddles by successive governments, corporations and the media

Vulgar terms like 'snowflake' used to demean those with a conscience

We really are a repulsive society

Best quote on this thread! "

My thoughts exactly

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"The responses in this thread demonstrate what a perfectly divided nation we have become

We have been played like fiddles by successive governments, corporations and the media

Vulgar terms like 'snowflake' used to demean those with a conscience

We really are a repulsive society"

I’ve always considered ‘snowflake’ to describe someone who is offended by the slightest thing , rather than to be used to demean those with a conscience .

I have used it in the context I feel it is apt , and I certainly don’t demean those who do have a conscience . Don’t you get sick and tired of those who seem to spend their lives looking for a reason to be offended ? Particularly on behalf of others .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The responses in this thread demonstrate what a perfectly divided nation we have become

We have been played like fiddles by successive governments, corporations and the media

Vulgar terms like 'snowflake' used to demean those with a conscience

We really are a repulsive society

I’ve always considered ‘snowflake’ to describe someone who is offended by the slightest thing , rather than to be used to demean those with a conscience .

I have used it in the context I feel it is apt , and I certainly don’t demean those who do have a conscience . Don’t you get sick and tired of those who seem to spend their lives looking for a reason to be offended ? Particularly on behalf of others . "

I'm not easily offended, let alone being offended on behalf of others

'Snowflake' has been adopted by those who have ran out of steam to back their own position up

I'd honestly never heard of it before say 18 months ago - there's rarely a day goes by when I don't hear it these days

It is vulgar and it used to demean

I didn't notice your use of it earlier, so my reference to it wasn't aimed at anything you had written

Anyway, let's not get hung up on a word and lose focus on the fact that our society is becoming increasingly divided.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"The responses in this thread demonstrate what a perfectly divided nation we have become

We have been played like fiddles by successive governments, corporations and the media

Vulgar terms like 'snowflake' used to demean those with a conscience

We really are a repulsive society

I’ve always considered ‘snowflake’ to describe someone who is offended by the slightest thing , rather than to be used to demean those with a conscience .

I have used it in the context I feel it is apt , and I certainly don’t demean those who do have a conscience . Don’t you get sick and tired of those who seem to spend their lives looking for a reason to be offended ? Particularly on behalf of others .

I'm not easily offended, let alone being offended on behalf of others

'Snowflake' has been adopted by those who have ran out of steam to back their own position up

I'd honestly never heard of it before say 18 months ago - there's rarely a day goes by when I don't hear it these days

It is vulgar and it used to demean

I didn't notice your use of it earlier, so my reference to it wasn't aimed at anything you had written

Anyway, let's not get hung up on a word and lose focus on the fact that our society is becoming increasingly divided."

I agree that we shouldn’t let a word let us lose focus on what is a very divided society .

And I don’t think I have used it on this thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah you are all incorrect...

Blame Brexit, its the cause of everything, dont you know ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would to see the day when food banks were finished also the day when zero hours contracts were abolished but sadly I think they are both a long way off.

Op I don't think banning food adverts will help in any of the above as we were taught by Maggie that being selfish was good back in the 80s..and sadly this government seem to play by them rules.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"I would to see the day when food banks were finished also the day when zero hours contracts were abolished but sadly I think they are both a long way off.

Op I don't think banning food adverts will help in any of the above as we were taught by Maggie that being selfish was good back in the 80s..and sadly this government seem to play by them rules."

I don’t think you can simply blame Maggie for the fact that we are , as a species , inherently selfish . A capitalist society will facilitate our selfishness and reward it to a degree , but we’ve always been that way .

Any government would have a tough job in trying to get rid of the human genome of selfishness . Venezuela tried , and failed abysmally .

There needs to be a massive shift in the thinking of us all . Do I need this , do I need that , should I be putting all this money toward my pension when it could help people now etc..

It seems that we will all be paying a bit more council tax to help with essential services , so maybe the current government is doing something positive ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would to see the day when food banks were finished also the day when zero hours contracts were abolished but sadly I think they are both a long way off.

Op I don't think banning food adverts will help in any of the above as we were taught by Maggie that being selfish was good back in the 80s..and sadly this government seem to play by them rules.

I don’t think you can simply blame Maggie for the fact that we are , as a species , inherently selfish . A capitalist society will facilitate our selfishness and reward it to a degree , but we’ve always been that way .

Any government would have a tough job in trying to get rid of the human genome of selfishness . Venezuela tried , and failed abysmally .

There needs to be a massive shift in the thinking of us all . Do I need this , do I need that , should I be putting all this money toward my pension when it could help people now etc..

It seems that we will all be paying a bit more council tax to help with essential services , so maybe the current government is doing something positive ?

"

Hmmm it was the current government who cut the council's to the bone if I remember right...and I know some will say the previous government overspent in their time in running the country.

But I'm sorry on the subject of the hungry...I find this government has a lot to answer for and I can't think of anything good they have done to help people in need.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"I would to see the day when food banks were finished also the day when zero hours contracts were abolished but sadly I think they are both a long way off.

Op I don't think banning food adverts will help in any of the above as we were taught by Maggie that being selfish was good back in the 80s..and sadly this government seem to play by them rules.

I don’t think you can simply blame Maggie for the fact that we are , as a species , inherently selfish . A capitalist society will facilitate our selfishness and reward it to a degree , but we’ve always been that way .

Any government would have a tough job in trying to get rid of the human genome of selfishness . Venezuela tried , and failed abysmally .

There needs to be a massive shift in the thinking of us all . Do I need this , do I need that , should I be putting all this money toward my pension when it could help people now etc..

It seems that we will all be paying a bit more council tax to help with essential services , so maybe the current government is doing something positive ?

Hmmm it was the current government who cut the council's to the bone if I remember right...and I know some will say the previous government overspent in their time in running the country.

But I'm sorry on the subject of the hungry...I find this government has a lot to answer for and I can't think of anything good they have done to help people in need."

I just hope that things will get better now , because although I lean to the right , I feel the country should do more to help those people who need more help .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would to see the day when food banks were finished also the day when zero hours contracts were abolished but sadly I think they are both a long way off.

Op I don't think banning food adverts will help in any of the above as we were taught by Maggie that being selfish was good back in the 80s..and sadly this government seem to play by them rules.

I don’t think you can simply blame Maggie for the fact that we are , as a species , inherently selfish . A capitalist society will facilitate our selfishness and reward it to a degree , but we’ve always been that way .

Any government would have a tough job in trying to get rid of the human genome of selfishness . Venezuela tried , and failed abysmally .

There needs to be a massive shift in the thinking of us all . Do I need this , do I need that , should I be putting all this money toward my pension when it could help people now etc..

It seems that we will all be paying a bit more council tax to help with essential services , so maybe the current government is doing something positive ?

Hmmm it was the current government who cut the council's to the bone if I remember right...and I know some will say the previous government overspent in their time in running the country.

But I'm sorry on the subject of the hungry...I find this government has a lot to answer for and I can't think of anything good they have done to help people in need.

I just hope that things will get better now , because although I lean to the right , I feel the country should do more to help those people who need more help .

"

I will agree with you on that...but I don't think we will every agree on which government should be at the helm to do it

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