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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just been told at work they want to change my shifts from 4 nights on 3 off to 8 on 6 off , I am more pissed off than a pissed off thing from pissedville

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn

Oh would hate that

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By *luespartanMan
over a year ago

crawley

sounds good 6 days off more time to play mmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what is it you do ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, look on the bright side...

You could be unemployed.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

YUK! I would be in the baddest of moods on night 1

But the 6 days off would be something to look forward to,but then again you'll be sleeping for one of those and then having a sleep before you go in on night 1

How long is your shift?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Talk with your union rep... There are limits to unilateral changes in terms and conditions...;-);-)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"sounds good 6 days off more time to play mmm"

Be too bloody tired to do anything for a cpl days

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

sounds crap ((((((((((((((hugz)))))))))))

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I work in residential care do 10 hr shifts and have done the same shifts nearly 3 yrs

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well, look on the bright side...

You could be unemployed.

This is very true but will be out looking tomorrow

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

"I work in residential care do 10 hr shifts and have done the same shifts nearly 3 yrs "

Then I think thats really harsh to change it so drastically,everyone will be dead on their feet

What reasons have they given for the change?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well, look on the bright side...

You could be unemployed.

This is very true but will be out looking tomorrow "

Look in to home care private sector with an agency if you have them round your area and look into bank staff too more money. And do the hours you choose.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My mother is in the same position as you right now she going from a 7 day night with one week off to a 4 day night and 3 days off.she contacted the union and is fighting it.good luck and hope you get it sorted.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I work in residential care do 10 hr shifts and have done the same shifts nearly 3 yrs

Then I think thats really harsh to change it so drastically,everyone will be dead on their feet

What reasons have they given for the change?"

Because the last girl that did other nights left we got a new boss who seems to think wont get anyone to do the other 3 nights when infact those that have done the other nights have done it because it fitted well in their lives. The way it has worked without any problems has been I do Sunday thro wed and the other does the Thursday to sat with the understanding that at any point if either of us needs to swap a shift we can do and as I said has worked fine for nearly 3 yrs.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Well, look on the bright side...

You could be unemployed.

This is very true but will be out looking tomorrow

Look in to home care private sector with an agency if you have them round your area and look into bank staff too more money. And do the hours you choose."

That's my plan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"what is it you do ? "

You'd better watch out! You've just inadvertantly narrowed your audience of potential meets down asking that question. Do you not reed the forums?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"what is it you do ?

You'd better watch out! You've just inadvertantly narrowed your audience of potential meets down asking that question. Do you not reed the forums?

thank you you made me giggle again

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By *orkieMan
over a year ago

Who knows

"Just been told at work they want to change my shifts from 4 nights on 3 off to 8 on 6 off , I am more pissed off than a pissed off thing from pissedville

A legal contract of employment can only be changed with the consent of both parties. If you do not consent to it then simply tell them so. They will then have to give tou 3 months notice of change in terms and conditions.

If it is then forced upon you you could resign and put in a claim for constructive dismissal.

If ya want any more info just inbox me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks Yorkie...

Constructive Dismissal is the term I was trying to remember...;-)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"what is it you do ?

You'd better watch out! You've just inadvertantly narrowed your audience of potential meets down asking that question. Do you not reed the forums?

I was thinking the same thing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I work in residential care do 10 hr shifts and have done the same shifts nearly 3 yrs "

can they change your shifts that quickly ?

i thought if a precedent had been set ref the regularity of shift patterns then employers need to provide notice of an intrinsic change ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i should read to the bottom of threads before putting my ten penneth in

i thought that was the case as _orkie describes above

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By *els_BellsWoman
over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

Shouldnt your pay increase if they want more anti social hours?

Been a long time since I did shifts hated nights.

Good luck though and hope you get it sorted x

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By *ondafirestormMan
over a year ago

heckington

i work nights do 4 on 3 off but do a rolling 3 week rota so 5 off week one, 3 off week 2, 1 off week 3.Works well as sort of get a week off every 3 lol.Plenty of time for meets lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i'm sure they have to have a 90 day consultation period with staff before they can change shift patterns hunny

the chap above seems to know his beans might be worth asking him more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

_orkie that is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well, look on the bright side...

You could be unemployed.

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Yes so many people are now.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thanks guys and girls feeling a bit more positive this morning , I am not a door mat

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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago

between havant and chichester

im having to do 7 nights a week at moment due to having no night staff im the only one

started this batch on the 17th dec with no nights off hopefully be able to have a night off soon

fed up putting em to bed and getting em back up all the time with no help

if one dont want to go to bed i now let her stay up so im not talking to meself for 12 hrs

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

(((((((((((((((((((((((9hugs from me as well))))))))))))))))))))))

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"im having to do 7 nights a week at moment due to having no night staff im the only one

started this batch on the 17th dec with no nights off hopefully be able to have a night off soon

fed up putting em to bed and getting em back up all the time with no help

if one dont want to go to bed i now let her stay up so im not talking to meself for 12 hrs"

that's just wrong _oddy, not only from your perspective, but also from that of the residents.

it is however nice to note your commitment to the residents, which i guess in addition to the pennies is a major factor for you in being so conscientious.

you can't let go on though - at some point you need to make a stand for your sanity, health & well being and also for the people you look after xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"im having to do 7 nights a week at moment due to having no night staff im the only one

started this batch on the 17th dec with no nights off hopefully be able to have a night off soon

fed up putting em to bed and getting em back up all the time with no help

if one dont want to go to bed i now let her stay up so im not talking to meself for 12 hrs"

That is just so wrong makes my moan look stupid now , really hope you get it sorted soon as I know I couldn't do that xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pretty sure there is only a certain amount of hours you can work in a week, bearing in mind it would be 8 days on might be worth checking.

Wouldn't dive straight in with a constructive dismissal claim as it really isn't that simple. I do feel for you though!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

M does 7 on 3 off & G does 4 on 4 off hence why we don't get time to meet as much as we'd like too

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By *orkieMan
over a year ago

Who knows

"Pretty sure there is only a certain amount of hours you can work in a week, bearing in mind it would be 8 days on might be worth checking.

Wouldn't dive straight in with a constructive dismissal claim as it really isn't that simple. I do feel for you though!"

That depends on whether the employer has "made" his staff sign an opt out to the working time agreement or as in the case of some employers now, making it a condition of employment. There should be no more than a maximum of 48 hrs worked per week (AVERAGED OUT OVER A 17, 26, or 52 PERIOD) There is also the matter of ensuring min 11 hrs off between shifts, again averaged out over a variagating period.

For a more indepth and sleep inducing version just google Working Time Directive... go on ya know it makes sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot is going to depend on what process is set up between the employers and the unions. If this is what is classed as a Managing change exercise, they should be giving a 30 days consultation period, at the least and 90 days at most, followed with a 90 notice period. Get the union to check it out. Staff should be consulted and the legal notices given.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ha ha found it chick.... been to Tescos for supplies yet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah bollox, meant to reply to that privately, sorry!

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By *herry n JonesyCouple
over a year ago

Oxfordshire / Leicester

I had a similar situation where I worked where they wanted to change our working patterns which really didn't suit me in the slightest. They gave us the requisite notice for it. It was reliant on no one leaving during that period as well as we were at minimum numbers to be able to do it.

So I did what I had to do and one month before it was due to start, I handed my notice in. A huge gamble as I didn't have another job but it has all worked out for the best for me.

Don't let yourself be bullied by your boss.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ah bollox, meant to reply to that privately, sorry!"

no not yet been getting some more info together

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I had a similar situation where I worked where they wanted to change our working patterns which really didn't suit me in the slightest. They gave us the requisite notice for it. It was reliant on no one leaving during that period as well as we were at minimum numbers to be able to do it.

So I did what I had to do and one month before it was due to start, I handed my notice in. A huge gamble as I didn't have another job but it has all worked out for the best for me.

Don't let yourself be bullied by your boss. "

That made me giggle well done you bet they were mad

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By *herry n JonesyCouple
over a year ago

Oxfordshire / Leicester

So I did what I had to do and one month before it was due to start, I handed my notice in. A huge gamble as I didn't have another job but it has all worked out for the best for me.

Don't let yourself be bullied by your boss.

That made me giggle well done you bet they were mad

I suspect so.. and even more so when I went to work for one of my old customers and made their lives more difficult lol.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

The very first thing to check is your contract of employment (and T&C's, employee handbook etc).

Are you contracted for 40hrs per week or for 80hrs per fortnight or something else.... how many days is a week/cycle defined as ... and so on.

Then check if there are any explicitly stated reserved rights for the employer to change the rota/working patterns (this does not have to mention anything about the hours worked).

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just a quick update , having stood my ground and finding another job my boss finally listened when I said wasnt doing 7 on 7 off. So I am now doing 3 nights 1 week 4 the next with a morning shift as well to make up hrs as the dozy bugger hadnt even checked my contract which is 40hrs a week. I still lose 5 hrs a month which I can make up if I want but seeing as how I also got a pay rise then dont think I will bother. Am still going to do the training days for the other job incase the hrs dont work out but at the moment I am happy. Thank you all for your help xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Glad ya sorted ta ya satisfaction

But to be honest 7 on 7 off sounds good ta me two weeks off a month i could handle that lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Glad ya sorted ta ya satisfaction

But to be honest 7 on 7 off sounds good ta me two weeks off a month i could handle that lol

If it was days then yes but I know I couldnt cope with 7 nights on .

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

"Just a quick update , having stood my ground and finding another job my boss finally listened when I said wasnt doing 7 on 7 off. So I am now doing 3 nights 1 week 4 the next with a morning shift as well to make up hrs as the dozy bugger hadnt even checked my contract which is 40hrs a week. I still lose 5 hrs a month which I can make up if I want but seeing as how I also got a pay rise then dont think I will bother. Am still going to do the training days for the other job incase the hrs dont work out but at the moment I am happy. Thank you all for your help xx

So does this mean ya gonna cheer up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Congrats Jet glad your all sorted

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So does this mean ya gonna cheer up

a bit but even more when I get me shoulder back

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By *etillanteWoman
over a year ago

So does this mean ya gonna cheer up

a bit but even more when I get me shoulder back

Awwwwwwwwwwwww, where'd you leave it?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Congrats Jet glad your all sorted"

Thank you x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So does this mean ya gonna cheer up

a bit but even more when I get me shoulder back

Awwwwwwwwwwwww, where'd you leave it?

No idea but I only want it back if it stops hurting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just been told at work they want to change my shifts from 4 nights on 3 off to 8 on 6 off , I am more pissed off than a pissed off thing from pissedville

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I used to work 4 on 3 off now work 8 on 6 off that was 18 months ago & still not happy about it tell my manager every week but he is not bothered. Messed our play time right up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

they need to give you 90 days notice to change your shifts.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just been told at work they want to change my shifts from 4 nights on 3 off to 8 on 6 off , I am more pissed off than a pissed off thing from pissedville

I used to work 4 on 3 off now work 8 on 6 off that was 18 months ago & still not happy about it tell my manager every week but he is not bothered. Messed our play time right up

I really do feel for you because I know I couldnt do it , that was why I went and found another job not before anyone thinks it to hold work to ransom so to speak because I fully understand there are plenty who would jump at chance of a job and I am not by any means indispensable but for me I would not have been happy doing those hrs .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brilliant, well done hunny for standing your ground, and they must think a lot of you to actually listen, specially these days when so many people could've taken your place. I'm well chuffed for ya!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol I got my 90 day notice just before xmas. Some notices ain't that good!

Been there 13yrs on shifts so will get a good pay out. My shift rota gives me a block of 8 days off a month.. which I spend sleeping.. lol

Gonna be 1st time on dole since I was 17.. Never mind I'll have lots more time to play now

.xX Jo Xx.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Their staffing problems are not your concern. I'd check with thw CAB about the Working Time Directive because if you haven't opted out of it they can't force you to work more than 48 hours in one 7 day period. (you'd know if you had opted out as they'd have asked you sign a form that says they can ask you to work more than 48 hours/week if required to do so).

Also, point out that you have structured your out of work hours to suit your current working pattern and to change your hours would affect other people who don't work where you work.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn

glad you got it sorted out xxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lol I got my 90 day notice just before xmas. Some notices ain't that good!

Been there 13yrs on shifts so will get a good pay out. My shift rota gives me a block of 8 days off a month.. which I spend sleeping.. lol

Gonna be 1st time on dole since I was 17.. Never mind I'll have lots more time to play now

.xX Jo Xx. "

Now there's a sexy face from the past! Ello JJ!! xx

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