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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The song called Baby it's Cold Outside (Tom Jones and Cerys Matthews did a version). Some feminists want it banned and some radio station has taken it off their Christmas playlist in case it offends. Some feminist believe it's a song about sexual assault..

Agree or disagree?

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

What a lot of shite. It's a song, ffs...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The song called Baby it's Cold Outside (Tom Jones and Cerys Matthews did a version). Some feminists want it banned and some radio station has taken it off their Christmas playlist in case it offends. Some feminist believe it's a song about sexual assault..

Agree or disagree?"
isn't it a bit late

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By *ild_oatsMan
over a year ago

the land of saints & sinners

Some people have too much time on their hands.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They might have to start banning an awful lot of songs, and programmes, and films.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There’s a lot of films, songs etc with unseemly undertones. Let’s have a little look at the wife beating in Carousel, the wife snatching in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, the underage attraction in the song Young Girl.

Probably good to talk about these things, I reckon. Sadly, it’s still a very hummable along tune and it’s nostalgic and lovely for many.

I wonder if we found some tunes/films that have moved to being unacceptable now, if there was the same outcry at the point of transition?

I do like Cerys’ version though.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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It’s guaranteed to do well then now

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By *ondonFreakMan
over a year ago

London

Won't be long till Maggie May gets pulled for its paedophilic content..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Disagree. I read about this and the song was written years ago and it's just about a girl who doesn't want to leave, not about her being forced to do anything. Fairytale of new York is getting a hammering too because of the word "faggot" being offensive. I mean, really??

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Disagree. I read about this and the song was written years ago and it's just about a girl who doesn't want to leave, not about her being forced to do anything. Fairytale of new York is getting a hammering too because of the word "faggot" being offensive. I mean, really?? "

Isn't a faggot a kind of large meatball?

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"Isn't a faggot a kind of large meatball?"

Exactly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Disagree. I read about this and the song was written years ago and it's just about a girl who doesn't want to leave, not about her being forced to do anything. Fairytale of new York is getting a hammering too because of the word "faggot" being offensive. I mean, really?? "

Not quite, it’s from the ‘49 film Neptune’s Daughter and it’s a little more coercive date rap*y than you’re implying,

Still like the Cerys version though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"[Removed by poster at 05/12/18 21:30:37]"

Yeah and what's offensive about that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a load of old bunkum, , in my opinion )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this in the UK?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol yeah

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Heard it loads already. Too many times in fact bah humbug

It will stick around.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

The story was and is a complete heap of shite! And of course originated in the states and worked it's way here, as if it is alluding to sexual assault! Utter bollocks!

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By *uryWhipMan
over a year ago

Harringay

This song has always had that vibe but its only the last few years people have noticed coz of political correctness. Think it was Robot Chicken who did the Bill Cosby sketch, or was it Bill Clinton? Might have been two different shows. Family Guy did it with 60s crooner. The only reason they all did that was becuse of the way the song was suddenly being talked about.

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By *hris148Man
over a year ago

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I read this and find it bizarre. For me the song is a resolute woman not falling for all the stupid lines that he tries out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you not think that it is a bigger comment on our society that we see all this depravity and filth in what is essentially an innocent song?

Where will it end?

Banning songs like:

The Stones - Brown sugar “Taste good like a young girl should”

The Knack - My Sharona “Such a dirty mind, always get it up for the touch of the younger kind”

Aerosmith - Walk this way “Schoolgirl sweetie with a classy kinda sexy little skirt’s climbin’ way up her knee”

Enrique Iglesias - Escape “You can run, you can hide but you can’t escape my love”

Maroon 5 - She will be loved “I know where you hide, alone in your car”

The Police - Every breath you take “Every step you take, I’ll be watching you”

Maybe I pay too much attention to lyrics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it’s good as a means to talk about subjects like this, personally. Not saying ban things but discussing them isn’t a negative.

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By *wingin CatMan
over a year ago

London

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over a year ago

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

If they did any research on the song it was written in the 40s and it’s a completely innocent song

The way this PC world is going we wiloffend people for stepping out our own houses to

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By *heaspieswingerMan
over a year ago

Peak District


"The song called Baby it's Cold Outside (Tom Jones and Cerys Matthews did a version). Some feminists want it banned and some radio station has taken it off their Christmas playlist in case it offends. Some feminist believe it's a song about sexual assault..

Agree or disagree?"

Not proper feminists

If the snowflakes are suddenly offended by that song, they ought to listen to ‘Closer’ by the Nine Inch Nails.... And we quote:

“You let me violate you

You let me desecrate you

You let me penetrate you

You let me complicate you

I want to fuck you like an animal

I want to feel you from the inside“

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By *wingin CatMan
over a year ago

London


"There’s a lot of films, songs etc with unseemly undertones. Let’s have a little look at the wife beating in Carousel, the wife snatching in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, the underage attraction in the song Young Girl.

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By *wingin CatMan
over a year ago

London

Radio DoGooder have also banned the following, for the reasons stated:

ELVIS PRESLEY: Wear My Ring Around Your Neck - Forced sado-masochism play. The title says it all – no further explanation needed.

JOHN LENNON: It’s So Hard - Song about the effects of Viagra; “It’s so hard, it’s really hard, sometimes I feel like going down”.

THE EVERLY BROTHERS: Wake Up Little Suzie - The lyrics clearly suggest that 'Suzie' has been drugged and forced to watch porn with her boyfriend at his house, and his parents have caught them having returned home from a party. “We both fell sound asleep…..the movie’s over, it’s 4 o’clock and we’re in trouble deep”.

DAVID BOWIE: John I’m Only Dancing - The opening lyrics are clearly a bully coercing his girlfriend to give up veganism; “Well Annie’s pretty neat, she always eats her meat”.

BING CROSBY: White Christmas - Racial segregation.

This is, of course, satire, in case anyone really believes it!

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham


"There’s a lot of films, songs etc with unseemly undertones. Let’s have a little look at the wife beating in Carousel, the wife snatching in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, the underage attraction in the song Young Girl.

"

Or Rita, Bob and Sue too!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

surprised any led zeppelin tracks get airtime after what page did in america many years ago with groupies.

its all documented so check for yourself

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By *heaspieswingerMan
over a year ago

Peak District


"The song called Baby it's Cold Outside (Tom Jones and Cerys Matthews did a version). Some feminists want it banned and some radio station has taken it off their Christmas playlist in case it offends. Some feminist believe it's a song about sexual assault..

Agree or disagree?

Not proper feminists

If the snowflakes are suddenly offended by that song, they ought to listen to ‘Closer’ by the Nine Inch Nails.... And we quote:

“You let me violate you

You let me desecrate you

You let me penetrate you

You let me complicate you

I want to fuck you like an animal

I want to feel you from the inside“

"

Or, how about a certain lyric Eminem’s ‘Guilty Consience’ (Google it - we’re not repeating it here! )

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By *wingin CatMan
over a year ago

London


"There’s a lot of films, songs etc with unseemly undertones. Let’s have a little look at the wife beating in Carousel, the wife snatching in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, the underage attraction in the song Young Girl.

Or Rita, Bob and Sue too!!! "

Exactly, given Rita and Sue were still fifth-formers at school!

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By *heaspieswingerMan
over a year ago

Peak District


"Disagree. I read about this and the song was written years ago and it's just about a girl who doesn't want to leave, not about her being forced to do anything. Fairytale of new York is getting a hammering too because of the word "faggot" being offensive. I mean, really??

Isn't a faggot a kind of large meatball?"

Not in New York it isn’t!

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By *wingin CatMan
over a year ago

London


"Disagree. I read about this and the song was written years ago and it's just about a girl who doesn't want to leave, not about her being forced to do anything. Fairytale of new York is getting a hammering too because of the word "faggot" being offensive. I mean, really??

Isn't a faggot a kind of large meatball?

Not in New York it isn’t! "

It is in certain parts of the Midlands...and very nice with gravy, too!

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham


"There’s a lot of films, songs etc with unseemly undertones. Let’s have a little look at the wife beating in Carousel, the wife snatching in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, the underage attraction in the song Young Girl.

Or Rita, Bob and Sue too!!!

Exactly, given Rita and Sue were still fifth-formers at school!"

I'm disgusted. Of Knowle.

Do they still do Points of View?

I'm of an age... I should write.

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By *wingin CatMan
over a year ago

London


"There’s a lot of films, songs etc with unseemly undertones. Let’s have a little look at the wife beating in Carousel, the wife snatching in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, the underage attraction in the song Young Girl.

Or Rita, Bob and Sue too!!!

Exactly, given Rita and Sue were still fifth-formers at school!

I'm disgusted. Of Knowle.

Do they still do Points of View?

I'm of an age... I should write. "

Apparenly so....now presented by Jeremy Vine.

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff


"The song called Baby it's Cold Outside (Tom Jones and Cerys Matthews did a version). Some feminists want it banned and some radio station has taken it off their Christmas playlist in case it offends. Some feminist believe it's a song about sexual assault..

Agree or disagree?"

Oh those feminists at it again...

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham


"There’s a lot of films, songs etc with unseemly undertones. Let’s have a little look at the wife beating in Carousel, the wife snatching in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, the underage attraction in the song Young Girl.

Or Rita, Bob and Sue too!!!

Exactly, given Rita and Sue were still fifth-formers at school!

I'm disgusted. Of Knowle.

Do they still do Points of View?

I'm of an age... I should write.

Apparenly so....now presented by Jeremy Vine."

It's been an age since I have purchased a stamp...

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By *wingin CatMan
over a year ago

London


"There’s a lot of films, songs etc with unseemly undertones. Let’s have a little look at the wife beating in Carousel, the wife snatching in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, the underage attraction in the song Young Girl.

Or Rita, Bob and Sue too!!!

Exactly, given Rita and Sue were still fifth-formers at school!

I'm disgusted. Of Knowle.

Do they still do Points of View?

I'm of an age... I should write.

Apparenly so....now presented by Jeremy Vine.

It's been an age since I have purchased a stamp... "

I'm sure the BBC will accept an email!

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By *untimes11Man
over a year ago

cardiff

If you watch the full song on YouTube, there is also a reverse scenario where a woman is trying to seduce a man. Only the fist half of the song is the man trying to seduce the woman.

They conveniently leave that part out because it doesn't fit their political narrative.

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham


"There’s a lot of films, songs etc with unseemly undertones. Let’s have a little look at the wife beating in Carousel, the wife snatching in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, the underage attraction in the song Young Girl.

Or Rita, Bob and Sue too!!!

Exactly, given Rita and Sue were still fifth-formers at school!

I'm disgusted. Of Knowle.

Do they still do Points of View?

I'm of an age... I should write.

Apparenly so....now presented by Jeremy Vine.

It's been an age since I have purchased a stamp...

I'm sure the BBC will accept an email! "

It's a great time to be alive!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tom Jones singing songs about sexual assault would seem slightly perverse given certain alleged stories that can be found if you dig deep enough.

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By *ay-89Woman
over a year ago

Norwich

Things are getting stupid now. Soon we won't be able to sneeze without upsetting or offending someone.

Had an argument on social media a few months ago about people's titles. They had miss and mrs removed from a form at their place of work and had mx added instead. I have no issues on how someone wants to identify or dress or anything, but why take away commonly used options? Ms, to me, would make me feel a lot older than I am.

Listen to a lot of songs and you'll find phrases that you hadn't noticed. People need to get over themselves.

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By *heaspieswingerMan
over a year ago

Peak District


"Disagree. I read about this and the song was written years ago and it's just about a girl who doesn't want to leave, not about her being forced to do anything. Fairytale of new York is getting a hammering too because of the word "faggot" being offensive. I mean, really??

Isn't a faggot a kind of large meatball?

Not in New York it isn’t!

It is in certain parts of the Midlands...and very nice with gravy, too!

"

From the Black Country We don’t eat them as we’re both veggies, but we know of what you speak

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By *heaspieswingerMan
over a year ago

Peak District


"Things are getting stupid now. Soon we won't be able to sneeze without upsetting or offending someone.

Had an argument on social media a few months ago about people's titles. They had miss and mrs removed from a form at their place of work and had mx added instead. I have no issues on how someone wants to identify or dress or anything, but why take away commonly used options? Ms, to me, would make me feel a lot older than I am.

Listen to a lot of songs and you'll find phrases that you hadn't noticed. People need to get over themselves."

What the hell is Mx??

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I wonder why they don’t apply the same mixed up logic to hip hop? Hmmmmmmmmmm.............

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By *ay-89Woman
over a year ago

Norwich


"What the hell is Mx??"

It is for those who don't want to associate with being male or female. Or "gender fluid" I think is the correct term. (if I'm wrong I'm sorry!)

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By *heaspieswingerMan
over a year ago

Peak District


"What the hell is Mx??

It is for those who don't want to associate with being male or female. Or "gender fluid" I think is the correct term. (if I'm wrong I'm sorry!) "

You learn something everyday

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Tom Jones is old enough to be her father...

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Mr Jones also sang about stabbing Delilah to death... that wasn't banned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haha what a lovely time to be alive . . I hate this era.

The 90's were the last good/decent generation. Come the 2000's it went tits up. But then again when hasn't it hahaha.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Won't be long till Maggie May gets pulled for its paedophilic content.."

I wish Maggie would pull me.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows


"The song called Baby it's Cold Outside (Tom Jones and Cerys Matthews did a version). Some feminists want it banned and some radio station has taken it off their Christmas playlist in case it offends. Some feminist believe it's a song about sexual assault..

Agree or disagree?

Not proper feminists

If the snowflakes are suddenly offended by that song, they ought to listen to ‘Closer’ by the Nine Inch Nails.... And we quote:

“You let me violate you

You let me desecrate you

You let me penetrate you

You let me complicate you

I want to fuck you like an animal

I want to feel you from the inside“

"

I bloody love that song. One of my absolute favourites

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By *vcarolTV/TS
over a year ago

kilmarnockish

PC is going too far.

I think they should ban the sale of Penguin biscuits. Takes a whole penguin to make one packet.

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By *wingin CatMan
over a year ago

London


"Tom Jones singing songs about sexual assault would seem slightly perverse given certain alleged stories that can be found if you dig deep enough."

Also "Delilah", which deals with the subject of murder.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area


"Mr Jones also sang about stabbing Delilah to death... that wasn't banned"

Exactly .....domestic violence !

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

Next they will ban Rudolf the red nosed reindeer as it will classed as bullying... talking about his red nose .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The kinks sang a song about lola that was banned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you not think that it is a bigger comment on our society that we see all this depravity and filth in what is essentially an innocent song?

Where will it end?

Banning songs like:

The Stones - Brown sugar “Taste good like a young girl should”

The Knack - My Sharona “Such a dirty mind, always get it up for the touch of the younger kind”

Aerosmith - Walk this way “Schoolgirl sweetie with a classy kinda sexy little skirt’s climbin’ way up her knee”

Enrique Iglesias - Escape “You can run, you can hide but you can’t escape my love”

Maroon 5 - She will be loved “I know where you hide, alone in your car”

The Police - Every breath you take “Every step you take, I’ll be watching you”

Maybe I pay too much attention to lyrics "

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Young teacher the subject of school girl fantasy ... inside her there's no room she is an open book

Don't stand so Close to Me The Police

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area


"The kinks sang a song about lola that was banned"

Wasnt lola a transvestite ... if I remember correctly .

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Yes Lola was.

Was Lou Reed's Walk on the Wild Side banned ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The song called Baby it's Cold Outside (Tom Jones and Cerys Matthews did a version). Some feminists want it banned and some radio station has taken it off their Christmas playlist in case it offends. Some feminist believe it's a song about sexual assault..

Agree or disagree?

Not proper feminists

If the snowflakes are suddenly offended by that song, they ought to listen to ‘Closer’ by the Nine Inch Nails.... And we quote:

“You let me violate you

You let me desecrate you

You let me penetrate you

You let me complicate you

I want to fuck you like an animal

I want to feel you from the inside“

"

There wouldn’t be an issue with this song, the use of the word “let” demonstrates the awareness of consent. The rest is an expression of a fantasy. No problem whatsoever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The kinks sang a song about lola that was banned

Wasnt lola a transvestite ... if I remember correctly ."
maybe she was a showgirl she had flowers in her hair and cock pics everywhere

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By *ily Con CarneTV/TS
over a year ago

Cornwall


"Disagree. I read about this and the song was written years ago and it's just about a girl who doesn't want to leave, not about her being forced to do anything. Fairytale of new York is getting a hammering too because of the word "faggot" being offensive. I mean, really??

Isn't a faggot a kind of large meatball?"

it is and very tasty indeed ..especially with gravy and peas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it’s good as a means to talk about subjects like this, personally. Not saying ban things but discussing them isn’t a negative. "

Except when "discuss" means "We'll just throw a tantrum until you decide it's easier to give into our demands" lest we label you a "creep" or "part of the problem" or worse yet won't shag you

Girl power

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In 2021 the humans burned all their cultural heritage....just to be on the safe side.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it’s good as a means to talk about subjects like this, personally. Not saying ban things but discussing them isn’t a negative.

Except when "discuss" means "We'll just throw a tantrum until you decide it's easier to give into our demands" lest we label you a "creep" or "part of the problem" or worse yet won't shag you

Girl power"

Or have people shout down discussing as a way of undermining anything that wobbles a fragile male ego, if you’re going to sweepingly generalise anything “girl power” like that, let’s sweepingly generalise back the other way too - but then that undermines discussion, doesn’t it...

Sigh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To many worry about the song “baby it’s cold outside” rather than worrying about people that are actually cold, outside..

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By *hocolate37Man
over a year ago

Heathrow

You decide - here's the lyrics:

I really can't stay (but baby, it's cold outside)

I've got to go away (but baby, it's cold outside)

This evening has been (been hoping that you'd drop in)

So very nice (I'll hold your hands, they're just like ice)

My mother will start to worry (beautiful what's your hurry?)

My father will be pacing the floor (listen to the fireplace roar)

So really I'd better scurry (beautiful please don't hurry)

But maybe just a half a drink more (put some records on while I pour)

The neighbours might think (baby, it's bad out there)

Say what's in this drink? (no cabs to be had out there)

I wish I knew how (your eyes are like starlight now)

To break this spell (i'll take your hat, your hair looks swell)

I ought to say, no, no, no sir (mind if I move in closer?)

At least I'm gonna say that I tried (what's the sense in hurtin' my pride?)

I really can't stay (oh baby don't hold out)

But baby, it's cold outside

I simply must go (but baby, it's cold outside)

The answer is no (but baby, it's cold outside)

Your welcome has been(how lucky that you dropped in)

So nice and warm (look out the window at this dawn)

My sister will be suspicious (gosh your lips look delicious)

My brother will be there at the door (waves upon the tropical shore)

My maiden aunts mind is vicious (gosh your lips are delicious)

But maybe just a cigarette more (never such a blizzard before)

I've gotta get home(but baby, you'd freeze out there)

Say lend me a coat(it's up to your knees out there)

You've really been grand (i thrill when you touch my hand)

But don't you see? (how can you do this thing to me?)

There's bound to be talk tomorrow (think of my lifelong sorrow)

At least there will be plenty implied (if you got pneumonia and died)

I really can't stay (get over that old out)

Baby, it's cold

Baby, it's cold outside

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They might have to start banning an awful lot of songs, and programmes, and films. "

The Prodigy, anyone?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

rod stewart sung it well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To many worry about the song “baby it’s cold outside” rather than worrying about people that are actually cold, outside.."

Good point.

And on that note - the Severe Weather Emergency Protocol shelters are opening in some boroughs in London tonight due to temperatures overnight. If you see someone rough sleeping please make a member of public referral to Streetlink (google for website or phone number or download the app).

For the SWEP process in other areas please check local authority websites.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The tyranny of the loud vocal minority wins again

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