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"There is one thing you can rely upon with dicks and that is when they aren't arriving in your inbox in picture form lots of them are posting on here in the forums. This place is anything but a helpful and supportive place most of the time. The only good thing about it is that it makes it so easy to block the right people."  | |||
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"Perhaps if you’d started the thread “Isn’t space travel wonderful/amazing, I wish I knew more about it” rather than dismissing it as a load of bollocks and doubting it even happens, people would be more sympathetic and informative " | |||
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"Perhaps if you’d started the thread “Isn’t space travel wonderful/amazing, I wish I knew more about it” rather than dismissing it as a load of bollocks and doubting it even happens, people would be more sympathetic and informative " | |||
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"So after starting a thread about how mind boggling space travel is , and admitting I don’t understand the physics behind it , I get responses along the line of “ there was a time was ignorance was something to be ashamed of , and now it’s worn as a badge of honour “ . And some clever dick quotes it , and says they don’t agree with much on the forums , but ain’t that the truth . I suppose I should feel ashamed of my ignorance and sit quietly in the corner with a dunce hat on . But I can’t help but feel that it’s unecessary and cruel to pick on a dumbass like me , so I shan’t take it quietly . Shame on you . "I'm thick and a dumb blonde .... but plz what has space travel got to do with fab ? | |||
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"Perhaps if you’d started the thread “Isn’t space travel wonderful/amazing, I wish I knew more about it” rather than dismissing it as a load of bollocks and doubting it even happens, people would be more sympathetic and informative " I merely had an opinion , and I’ve researched it a lot over the past few days . I don’t think it warrants such comments . I wasn’t looking for a sympathetic response , and there were plenty of informative comments made . I’m the last person to complain unnecessarily , but when people put other people down suggesting they lack an education and are proud of it , something needs to be said . It’s rude . | |||
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"So after starting a thread about how mind boggling space travel is , and admitting I don’t understand the physics behind it , I get responses along the line of “ there was a time was ignorance was something to be ashamed of , and now it’s worn as a badge of honour “ . And some clever dick quotes it , and says they don’t agree with much on the forums , but ain’t that the truth . I suppose I should feel ashamed of my ignorance and sit quietly in the corner with a dunce hat on . But I can’t help but feel that it’s unecessary and cruel to pick on a dumbass like me , so I shan’t take it quietly . Shame on you .
I'm thick and a dumb blonde .... but plz what has space travel got to do with fab ? "We decided to hang around for a while , here on the forums , as we’ve given up on swinging now . I sometimes wonder why ....  | |||
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"So after starting a thread about how mind boggling space travel is , and admitting I don’t understand the physics behind it , I get responses along the line of “ there was a time was ignorance was something to be ashamed of , and now it’s worn as a badge of honour “ . And some clever dick quotes it , and says they don’t agree with much on the forums , but ain’t that the truth . I suppose I should feel ashamed of my ignorance and sit quietly in the corner with a dunce hat on . But I can’t help but feel that it’s unecessary and cruel to pick on a dumbass like me , so I shan’t take it quietly . Shame on you .
I'm thick and a dumb blonde .... but plz what has space travel got to do with fab ? "This is the lounge, you can talk about any subject here. | |||
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"Perhaps if you’d started the thread “Isn’t space travel wonderful/amazing, I wish I knew more about it” rather than dismissing it as a load of bollocks and doubting it even happens, people would be more sympathetic and informative I merely had an opinion , and I’ve researched it a lot over the past few days . I don’t think it warrants such comments . I wasn’t looking for a sympathetic response , and there were plenty of informative comments made . I’m the last person to complain unnecessarily , but when people put other people down suggesting they lack an education and are proud of it , something needs to be said . It’s rude ." Was this the thread about the mars space flight? It was a bit conspiracy theoristish, from what I saw of it. | |||
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"Perhaps if you’d started the thread “Isn’t space travel wonderful/amazing, I wish I knew more about it” rather than dismissing it as a load of bollocks and doubting it even happens, people would be more sympathetic and informative I merely had an opinion , and I’ve researched it a lot over the past few days . I don’t think it warrants such comments . I wasn’t looking for a sympathetic response , and there were plenty of informative comments made . I’m the last person to complain unnecessarily , but when people put other people down suggesting they lack an education and are proud of it , something needs to be said . It’s rude . Was this the thread about the mars space flight? It was a bit conspiracy theoristish, from what I saw of it. " Yes it was | |||
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"So after starting a thread about how mind boggling space travel is , and admitting I don’t understand the physics behind it , I get responses along the line of “ there was a time was ignorance was something to be ashamed of , and now it’s worn as a badge of honour “ . And some clever dick quotes it , and says they don’t agree with much on the forums , but ain’t that the truth . I suppose I should feel ashamed of my ignorance and sit quietly in the corner with a dunce hat on . But I can’t help but feel that it’s unecessary and cruel to pick on a dumbass like me , so I shan’t take it quietly . Shame on you .
I'm thick and a dumb blonde .... but plz what has space travel got to do with fab ?
We decided to hang around for a while , here on the forums , as we’ve given up on swinging now .
I sometimes wonder why .... "I wonder why I'm still on fab lol xx chin up xx | |||
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"So after starting a thread about how mind boggling space travel is , and admitting I don’t understand the physics behind it , I get responses along the line of “ there was a time was ignorance was something to be ashamed of , and now it’s worn as a badge of honour “ . And some clever dick quotes it , and says they don’t agree with much on the forums , but ain’t that the truth . I suppose I should feel ashamed of my ignorance and sit quietly in the corner with a dunce hat on . But I can’t help but feel that it’s unecessary and cruel to pick on a dumbass like me , so I shan’t take it quietly . Shame on you .
I'm thick and a dumb blonde .... but plz what has space travel got to do with fab ?
We decided to hang around for a while , here on the forums , as we’ve given up on swinging now .
I sometimes wonder why ....
I wonder why I'm still on fab lol xx chin up xx"Thanks  | |||
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"So after starting a thread about how mind boggling space travel is , and admitting I don’t understand the physics behind it , I get responses along the line of “ there was a time was ignorance was something to be ashamed of , and now it’s worn as a badge of honour “ . And some clever dick quotes it , and says they don’t agree with much on the forums , but ain’t that the truth . I suppose I should feel ashamed of my ignorance and sit quietly in the corner with a dunce hat on . But I can’t help but feel that it’s unecessary and cruel to pick on a dumbass like me , so I shan’t take it quietly . Shame on you .
I'm thick and a dumb blonde .... but plz what has space travel got to do with fab ?
This is the lounge, you can talk about any subject here. "Ah right xx thanks just seems some strange subjects and as I said I'm thick but proud of it xx don't let them grind you down... I don't xxx  | |||
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"So after starting a thread about how mind boggling space travel is , and admitting I don’t understand the physics behind it , I get responses along the line of “ there was a time was ignorance was something to be ashamed of , and now it’s worn as a badge of honour “ . And some clever dick quotes it , and says they don’t agree with much on the forums , but ain’t that the truth . I suppose I should feel ashamed of my ignorance and sit quietly in the corner with a dunce hat on . But I can’t help but feel that it’s unecessary and cruel to pick on a dumbass like me , so I shan’t take it quietly . Shame on you .
I'm thick and a dumb blonde .... but plz what has space travel got to do with fab ?
We decided to hang around for a while , here on the forums , as we’ve given up on swinging now .
I sometimes wonder why ....
I wonder why I'm still on fab lol xx chin up xx
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"Here’s what you said. Although I don’t approve people being abusive Regarding people’s abilities you post was pretty dismissive. Not even a smiley face to hint at humour. The rules of physics that the Mars ship obeys are the same rules that govern the motor car, bike, aeroplane, boat and the earth. So you don’t have to fully understand physics to know the Mars lander is possible. Quote So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t ." Yes indeed. It reads more as a conspiracy theory than a thread about the wonders of space flight. | |||
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"Here’s what you said. Although I don’t approve people being abusive Regarding people’s abilities you post was pretty dismissive. Not even a smiley face to hint at humour. The rules of physics that the Mars ship obeys are the same rules that govern the motor car, bike, aeroplane, boat and the earth. So you don’t have to fully understand physics to know the Mars lander is possible. Quote So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t ." I can’t see anything that warrants the suggestion that I am wearing a badge of ignorance proudly ? | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP?" In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though  | |||
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"It’s hardly rocket science though is it, OP!? Eh? Oh!!  "
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"Well as a topic it was brilliant and I for once refrained from taking the mick but it was a fascinating insight into Fab and some of the loons who populate it ( I don’t mean you by the way ) and it’s only when you realise that people believe these conspiracy theories that you start wondering about their mental wellbeing. Anyway I am off to the politics forum for another punch up "I appreciate the fact that you resisted the temptation | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though "I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more? | |||
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"Here’s what you said. Although I don’t approve people being abusive Regarding people’s abilities you post was pretty dismissive. Not even a smiley face to hint at humour. The rules of physics that the Mars ship obeys are the same rules that govern the motor car, bike, aeroplane, boat and the earth. So you don’t have to fully understand physics to know the Mars lander is possible. Quote So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t . Yes indeed. It reads more as a conspiracy theory than a thread about the wonders of space flight. " I think it was a bit of both . | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though "But that’s a statement of belief, which isn’t based on rational evidence. It’s like saying “I believe in god” or “I believe the earth is flat”. If you don’t believe space travel happens I doubt anyone on here can convince you it does. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?"I think my final post on that thread said it all . I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND ! They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ? Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing ! Hey ho | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
But that’s a statement of belief, which isn’t based on rational evidence. It’s like saying “I believe in god” or “I believe the earth is flat”.
If you don’t believe space travel happens I doubt anyone on here can convince you it does.
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"Not knowing something is okay, but dismissing it cause you don’t understand it is another. " I agree , and the way you have put it is constructive rather than offensive . | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho "If you want to really blow your mind google relativity. Time and gravity interact, time slows down as velocity increases etc. I don’t pretend to understand it, but I wouldn’t say I disbelieve it, because its been scientifically proven. | |||
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"So after starting a thread about how mind boggling space travel is , and admitting I don’t understand the physics behind it , I get responses along the line of “ there was a time was ignorance was something to be ashamed of , and now it’s worn as a badge of honour “ . And some clever dick quotes it , and says they don’t agree with much on the forums , but ain’t that the truth . I suppose I should feel ashamed of my ignorance and sit quietly in the corner with a dunce hat on . But I can’t help but feel that it’s unecessary and cruel to pick on a dumbass like me , so I shan’t take it quietly . Shame on you . "I can guess who said it | |||
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"The Earth's gravity is used to propel the spacecraft to those speeds. It's a bit like the shot put. Because there's a vacuum in space there's no friction to slow the craft down. If it uses rockets and the gravitational pull of other planets in our solar system it will increase its speed to that amount. Does that help?" Well it does , kind of . What puzzles me is how we can be so precise . And travel such a distance as if it’s simple . | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
If you want to really blow your mind google relativity. Time and gravity interact, time slows down as velocity increases etc.
I don’t pretend to understand it, but I wouldn’t say I disbelieve it, because its been scientifically proven. "I think my mind is already blown ! But thanks for the info , perhaps another time | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
If you want to really blow your mind google relativity. Time and gravity interact, time slows down as velocity increases etc.
I don’t pretend to understand it, but I wouldn’t say I disbelieve it, because its been scientifically proven. "I haven't got time to Google that | |||
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"The Earth's gravity is used to propel the spacecraft to those speeds. It's a bit like the shot put. Because there's a vacuum in space there's no friction to slow the craft down. If it uses rockets and the gravitational pull of other planets in our solar system it will increase its speed to that amount. Does that help? Well it does , kind of . What puzzles me is how we can be so precise . And travel such a distance as if it’s simple . " The distance to mars is nothing compared to the distance covered by the voyager missions: https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status/ | |||
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"The Earth's gravity is used to propel the spacecraft to those speeds. It's a bit like the shot put. Because there's a vacuum in space there's no friction to slow the craft down. If it uses rockets and the gravitational pull of other planets in our solar system it will increase its speed to that amount. Does that help? Well it does , kind of . What puzzles me is how we can be so precise . And travel such a distance as if it’s simple . " Mathematics and the knowledge we've already gathered from previous space missions. It's not simple but it follows the laws of physics and mathematics. And not all missions were successful. But NASA and others learned from their failures. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. You know that bit where they fly at the sun and use stars' gravity to slingshot themselves around to go back in time? It's a bit like that but without aliens, time travel, and that godawful Chekov "wessel" bit. We know the orbits of the planets and if you can calculate the placement of each body in the solar system then you can use all kinds of maths to figure out the trajectory that you would need to launch the payload to best use the gravity of each body to your advantage. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. You know that bit where they fly at the sun and use stars' gravity to slingshot themselves around to go back in time? It's a bit like that but without aliens, time travel, and that godawful Chekov "wessel" bit.
We know the orbits of the planets and if you can calculate the placement of each body in the solar system then you can use all kinds of maths to figure out the trajectory that you would need to launch the payload to best use the gravity of each body to your advantage."Maths was never my strong point . I watch Star Trek , Star Wars and the like as if they are just a fantasy . And this Mars mission seems like that too in my simple mind . | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho "As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error). A space craft doesn't have a pilot, it's all pre-programmed with Mission Control able to send remote updates on-the-fly should anything need correction because someone is keeping an eye on it all the time. If that plane went down over open ocean it's long gone by now. A black box can only transmit so far through water and only for so long in general. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. You know that bit where they fly at the sun and use stars' gravity to slingshot themselves around to go back in time? It's a bit like that but without aliens, time travel, and that godawful Chekov "wessel" bit.
We know the orbits of the planets and if you can calculate the placement of each body in the solar system then you can use all kinds of maths to figure out the trajectory that you would need to launch the payload to best use the gravity of each body to your advantage.
Maths was never my strong point .
I watch Star Trek , Star Wars and the like as if they are just a fantasy .
And this Mars mission seems like that too in my simple mind . "But just because you don’t understand something, why should that cause you to disbelieve in it? I don’t really understand how chemotherapy works, but I don’t disbelieve in its effectiveness. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
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"Perhaps if you’d started the thread “Isn’t space travel wonderful/amazing, I wish I knew more about it” rather than dismissing it as a load of bollocks and doubting it even happens, people would be more sympathetic and informative " I would say that is a reasonable and fair observation, not that it excuses or should encourage rude responses, though as some others have suggested, thecway it was put was more conspiracy theorist than simply expressing a lack of understanding and perhaps many of those who responded viewed as somewhat confrontational. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. You know that bit where they fly at the sun and use stars' gravity to slingshot themselves around to go back in time? It's a bit like that but without aliens, time travel, and that godawful Chekov "wessel" bit.
We know the orbits of the planets and if you can calculate the placement of each body in the solar system then you can use all kinds of maths to figure out the trajectory that you would need to launch the payload to best use the gravity of each body to your advantage.
Maths was never my strong point .
I watch Star Trek , Star Wars and the like as if they are just a fantasy .
And this Mars mission seems like that too in my simple mind . "Mostly, they are fantasy. But in that particular instance the imagery is useful for the explanation. Look up "?Oumuamua's hyperbolic trajectory over the Solar System" and the first result should be half way down a Wikipedia article with an image of the comets' trajectory through our system. Notice how it comes in, slings around the sun, and back out again. Sending probes and other craft is a bit like that when we do it but on a less grand scale. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
Or most likely deliberately crash it, sadly. "I was trying to keep on the lighthearted side of that but... yes. Entirely possible.  | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. You know that bit where they fly at the sun and use stars' gravity to slingshot themselves around to go back in time? It's a bit like that but without aliens, time travel, and that godawful Chekov "wessel" bit.
We know the orbits of the planets and if you can calculate the placement of each body in the solar system then you can use all kinds of maths to figure out the trajectory that you would need to launch the payload to best use the gravity of each body to your advantage.
Maths was never my strong point .
I watch Star Trek , Star Wars and the like as if they are just a fantasy .
And this Mars mission seems like that too in my simple mind .
But just because you don’t understand something, why should that cause you to disbelieve in it?
I don’t really understand how chemotherapy works, but I don’t disbelieve in its effectiveness. "Ah now we are talking . I understand chemotherapy , immunology , and all that kind of stuff ! But I see what you’re saying | |||
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"Perhaps if you’d started the thread “Isn’t space travel wonderful/amazing, I wish I knew more about it” rather than dismissing it as a load of bollocks and doubting it even happens, people would be more sympathetic and informative I would say that is a reasonable and fair observation, not that it excuses or should encourage rude responses, though as some others have suggested, thecway it was put was more conspiracy theorist than simply expressing a lack of understanding and perhaps many of those who responded viewed as somewhat confrontational." I don’t think it was confrontational at all . But what do I know ? | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
Or most likely deliberately crash it, sadly.
I was trying to keep on the lighthearted side of that but... yes. Entirely possible. "Highly likely, sadly. It was deliberately flown off course under full control. The only other possibility is some kind of pressurisation issue, but that seems far less likely than a deliberate act by one/both of the pilots (pilots have quick donning oxygen masks in the event of a depressurisation). A good mate of mine flies Boeings for a living and he reckons it must have been deliberate. Sorry to bore on about it but it’s an interest of mine (even as a humble PPL holder ). | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
Or most likely deliberately crash it, sadly.
I was trying to keep on the lighthearted side of that but... yes. Entirely possible.
Highly likely, sadly.
It was deliberately flown off course under full control. The only other possibility is some kind of pressurisation issue, but that seems far less likely than a deliberate act by one/both of the pilots (pilots have quick donning oxygen masks in the event of a depressurisation).
A good mate of mine flies Boeings for a living and he reckons it must have been deliberate.
Sorry to bore on about it but it’s an interest of mine (even as a humble PPL holder ). "No, no. You carry on. I don't know enough about the workings of commercial aircraft to make any useful (or intelligent) comments on what could possibly have happened. In cases like that I resort to "It was the island from. Lost" and "I dunno. Magic?". | |||
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Haha I’m afraid you’re blocked by default matey.
Funnily enough if we went to the pub together I reckon we would get on. You’re exactly my kind of cunt.
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
Or most likely deliberately crash it, sadly.
I was trying to keep on the lighthearted side of that but... yes. Entirely possible.
Highly likely, sadly.
It was deliberately flown off course under full control. The only other possibility is some kind of pressurisation issue, but that seems far less likely than a deliberate act by one/both of the pilots (pilots have quick donning oxygen masks in the event of a depressurisation).
A good mate of mine flies Boeings for a living and he reckons it must have been deliberate.
Sorry to bore on about it but it’s an interest of mine (even as a humble PPL holder ).
No, no. You carry on. I don't know enough about the workings of commercial aircraft to make any useful (or intelligent) comments on what could possibly have happened. In cases like that I resort to "It was the island from. Lost" and "I dunno. Magic?"."https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?destination=%2fnews%2fworldviews%2fwp%2f2018%2f05%2f22%2finvestigators-insist-mh370-crash-was-an-accident-not-a-mass-murder-suicide-by-the-pilot%2f%3f&utm_term=.41a8489839c2 Captain could have simply waited until the FO went to the loo, locked him out of the cockpit (cockpit doors are impregnable following 9-11), manually depressurised the aircraft and donned his own mask to remain conscious. He dipped the wing to say goodbye to his home town and flew onwards to fuel starvation and oblivion. | |||
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Haha I’m afraid you’re blocked by default matey.
Funnily enough if we went to the pub together I reckon we would get on. You’re exactly my kind of cunt.
#fabbromance Ditto, couldn't leave my homie rudeboycane out though. What a motley crew that would be. "I hear ya. He’s a true bro from another hoe. Legend . | |||
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Haha I’m afraid you’re blocked by default matey.
Funnily enough if we went to the pub together I reckon we would get on. You’re exactly my kind of cunt.
#fabbromance Ditto, couldn't leave my homie rudeboycane out though. What a motley crew that would be.
I hear ya.
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Haha I’m afraid you’re blocked by default matey.
Funnily enough if we went to the pub together I reckon we would get on. You’re exactly my kind of cunt.
#fabbromance Ditto, couldn't leave my homie rudeboycane out though. What a motley crew that would be.
I hear ya.
He’s a true bro from another hoe. Legend .
I bet you are dribbling as we speak. "That only happens when I hear your voice  . | |||
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Haha I’m afraid you’re blocked by default matey.
Funnily enough if we went to the pub together I reckon we would get on. You’re exactly my kind of cunt.
#fabbromance Ditto, couldn't leave my homie rudeboycane out though. What a motley crew that would be.
I hear ya.
He’s a true bro from another hoe. Legend .
I bet you are dribbling as we speak.
That only happens when I hear your voice . "I get people saying that often. I think it’s horrible. | |||
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Haha I’m afraid you’re blocked by default matey.
Funnily enough if we went to the pub together I reckon we would get on. You’re exactly my kind of cunt.
#fabbromance Ditto, couldn't leave my homie rudeboycane out though. What a motley crew that would be.
I hear ya.
He’s a true bro from another hoe. Legend .
I bet you are dribbling as we speak.
That only happens when I hear your voice .
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
Or most likely deliberately crash it, sadly.
I was trying to keep on the lighthearted side of that but... yes. Entirely possible.
Highly likely, sadly.
It was deliberately flown off course under full control. The only other possibility is some kind of pressurisation issue, but that seems far less likely than a deliberate act by one/both of the pilots (pilots have quick donning oxygen masks in the event of a depressurisation).
A good mate of mine flies Boeings for a living and he reckons it must have been deliberate.
Sorry to bore on about it but it’s an interest of mine (even as a humble PPL holder ).
No, no. You carry on. I don't know enough about the workings of commercial aircraft to make any useful (or intelligent) comments on what could possibly have happened. In cases like that I resort to "It was the island from. Lost" and "I dunno. Magic?".
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Captain could have simply waited until the FO went to the loo, locked him out of the cockpit (cockpit doors are impregnable following 9-11), manually depressurised the aircraft and donned his own mask to remain conscious.
He dipped the wing to say goodbye to his home town and flew onwards to fuel starvation and oblivion. "Read it. More clued in now. Though, at 35,000+ feet, I'm inclined to believe that the bends would have done him in before he managed to get very far. Oxygen mask or not, sudden decompression would have made him lethargic and in pain. He may not have been conscious himself for very long. | |||
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"Perhaps if you’d started the thread “Isn’t space travel wonderful/amazing, I wish I knew more about it” rather than dismissing it as a load of bollocks and doubting it even happens, people would be more sympathetic and informative I would say that is a reasonable and fair observation, not that it excuses or should encourage rude responses, though as some others have suggested, thecway it was put was more conspiracy theorist than simply expressing a lack of understanding and perhaps many of those who responded viewed as somewhat confrontational. I don’t think it was confrontational at all . But what do I know ? "I think you may have misunderstood me somewhat. I did not say that it WAS confrontational, I merely suggested that some may have viewed it as such | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
Or most likely deliberately crash it, sadly.
I was trying to keep on the lighthearted side of that but... yes. Entirely possible.
Highly likely, sadly.
It was deliberately flown off course under full control. The only other possibility is some kind of pressurisation issue, but that seems far less likely than a deliberate act by one/both of the pilots (pilots have quick donning oxygen masks in the event of a depressurisation).
A good mate of mine flies Boeings for a living and he reckons it must have been deliberate.
Sorry to bore on about it but it’s an interest of mine (even as a humble PPL holder ).
No, no. You carry on. I don't know enough about the workings of commercial aircraft to make any useful (or intelligent) comments on what could possibly have happened. In cases like that I resort to "It was the island from. Lost" and "I dunno. Magic?".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?destination=%2fnews%2fworldviews%2fwp%2f2018%2f05%2f22%2finvestigators-insist-mh370-crash-was-an-accident-not-a-mass-murder-suicide-by-the-pilot%2f%3f&utm_term=.41a8489839c2
Captain could have simply waited until the FO went to the loo, locked him out of the cockpit (cockpit doors are impregnable following 9-11), manually depressurised the aircraft and donned his own mask to remain conscious.
He dipped the wing to say goodbye to his home town and flew onwards to fuel starvation and oblivion.
Read it. More clued in now.
Though, at 35,000+ feet, I'm inclined to believe that the bends would have done him in before he managed to get very far. Oxygen mask or not, sudden decompression would have made him lethargic and in pain. He may not have been conscious himself for very long."Flight crew oxygen is separate to the passenger oxygen masks. Crew have quick donning masks which deliver oxygen under pressure and (IIRC) last for an hour or more (the reasons why are obvious when you think about it). Passenger masks are only required to deliver oxygen for 15mins, which is (in theory) enough time to perform an emergency descent. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
Or most likely deliberately crash it, sadly.
I was trying to keep on the lighthearted side of that but... yes. Entirely possible.
Highly likely, sadly.
It was deliberately flown off course under full control. The only other possibility is some kind of pressurisation issue, but that seems far less likely than a deliberate act by one/both of the pilots (pilots have quick donning oxygen masks in the event of a depressurisation).
A good mate of mine flies Boeings for a living and he reckons it must have been deliberate.
Sorry to bore on about it but it’s an interest of mine (even as a humble PPL holder ).
No, no. You carry on. I don't know enough about the workings of commercial aircraft to make any useful (or intelligent) comments on what could possibly have happened. In cases like that I resort to "It was the island from. Lost" and "I dunno. Magic?".
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Captain could have simply waited until the FO went to the loo, locked him out of the cockpit (cockpit doors are impregnable following 9-11), manually depressurised the aircraft and donned his own mask to remain conscious.
He dipped the wing to say goodbye to his home town and flew onwards to fuel starvation and oblivion.
Read it. More clued in now.
Though, at 35,000+ feet, I'm inclined to believe that the bends would have done him in before he managed to get very far. Oxygen mask or not, sudden decompression would have made him lethargic and in pain. He may not have been conscious himself for very long.
Flight crew oxygen is separate to the passenger oxygen masks. Crew have quick donning masks which deliver oxygen under pressure and (IIRC) last for an hour or more (the reasons why are obvious when you think about it).
Passenger masks are only required to deliver oxygen for 15mins, which is (in theory) enough time to perform an emergency descent. "See? Yet another thing that I learnt. But considering that the crew don't pre-breathe pure oxygen before a flight, then their tissues are saturated with nitrogen and bubbles can still form during sudden decompression. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
Or most likely deliberately crash it, sadly.
I was trying to keep on the lighthearted side of that but... yes. Entirely possible.
Highly likely, sadly.
It was deliberately flown off course under full control. The only other possibility is some kind of pressurisation issue, but that seems far less likely than a deliberate act by one/both of the pilots (pilots have quick donning oxygen masks in the event of a depressurisation).
A good mate of mine flies Boeings for a living and he reckons it must have been deliberate.
Sorry to bore on about it but it’s an interest of mine (even as a humble PPL holder ).
No, no. You carry on. I don't know enough about the workings of commercial aircraft to make any useful (or intelligent) comments on what could possibly have happened. In cases like that I resort to "It was the island from. Lost" and "I dunno. Magic?".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?destination=%2fnews%2fworldviews%2fwp%2f2018%2f05%2f22%2finvestigators-insist-mh370-crash-was-an-accident-not-a-mass-murder-suicide-by-the-pilot%2f%3f&utm_term=.41a8489839c2
Captain could have simply waited until the FO went to the loo, locked him out of the cockpit (cockpit doors are impregnable following 9-11), manually depressurised the aircraft and donned his own mask to remain conscious.
He dipped the wing to say goodbye to his home town and flew onwards to fuel starvation and oblivion.
Read it. More clued in now.
Though, at 35,000+ feet, I'm inclined to believe that the bends would have done him in before he managed to get very far. Oxygen mask or not, sudden decompression would have made him lethargic and in pain. He may not have been conscious himself for very long.
Flight crew oxygen is separate to the passenger oxygen masks. Crew have quick donning masks which deliver oxygen under pressure and (IIRC) last for an hour or more (the reasons why are obvious when you think about it).
Passenger masks are only required to deliver oxygen for 15mins, which is (in theory) enough time to perform an emergency descent.
See? Yet another thing that I learnt. But considering that the crew don't pre-breathe pure oxygen before a flight, then their tissues are saturated with nitrogen and bubbles can still form during sudden decompression."You may well be right, but as I understand, crew oxygen is sufficient to keep the crew alive and functional enough to fly the aircraft, albeit not a comfortable experience. On the subject of “the bends” my mate told me a couple of weeks back they almost had to divert due to a medical emergency. It was an evening flight out of Egypt, one of the passengers started feeling unwell and told the cabin crew he’d been diving that morning  ... | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
Or most likely deliberately crash it, sadly.
I was trying to keep on the lighthearted side of that but... yes. Entirely possible.
Highly likely, sadly.
It was deliberately flown off course under full control. The only other possibility is some kind of pressurisation issue, but that seems far less likely than a deliberate act by one/both of the pilots (pilots have quick donning oxygen masks in the event of a depressurisation).
A good mate of mine flies Boeings for a living and he reckons it must have been deliberate.
Sorry to bore on about it but it’s an interest of mine (even as a humble PPL holder ).
No, no. You carry on. I don't know enough about the workings of commercial aircraft to make any useful (or intelligent) comments on what could possibly have happened. In cases like that I resort to "It was the island from. Lost" and "I dunno. Magic?".
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Captain could have simply waited until the FO went to the loo, locked him out of the cockpit (cockpit doors are impregnable following 9-11), manually depressurised the aircraft and donned his own mask to remain conscious.
He dipped the wing to say goodbye to his home town and flew onwards to fuel starvation and oblivion.
Read it. More clued in now.
Though, at 35,000+ feet, I'm inclined to believe that the bends would have done him in before he managed to get very far. Oxygen mask or not, sudden decompression would have made him lethargic and in pain. He may not have been conscious himself for very long.
Flight crew oxygen is separate to the passenger oxygen masks. Crew have quick donning masks which deliver oxygen under pressure and (IIRC) last for an hour or more (the reasons why are obvious when you think about it).
Passenger masks are only required to deliver oxygen for 15mins, which is (in theory) enough time to perform an emergency descent.
See? Yet another thing that I learnt. But considering that the crew don't pre-breathe pure oxygen before a flight, then their tissues are saturated with nitrogen and bubbles can still form during sudden decompression.
You may well be right, but as I understand, crew oxygen is sufficient to keep the crew alive and functional enough to fly the aircraft, albeit not a comfortable experience.
On the subject of “the bends” my mate told me a couple of weeks back they almost had to divert due to a medical emergency. It was an evening flight out of Egypt, one of the passengers started feeling unwell and told the cabin crew he’d been diving that morning ... "Well, that's not a situation that I'd want to be in. Symptoms don't manifest immediately from a dive and it can be hours.
Hope he turned out OK, but sounds like the crew had it under control. Luckily, the similarities are something that they are going to be trained for. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
Or most likely deliberately crash it, sadly.
I was trying to keep on the lighthearted side of that but... yes. Entirely possible.
Highly likely, sadly.
It was deliberately flown off course under full control. The only other possibility is some kind of pressurisation issue, but that seems far less likely than a deliberate act by one/both of the pilots (pilots have quick donning oxygen masks in the event of a depressurisation).
A good mate of mine flies Boeings for a living and he reckons it must have been deliberate.
Sorry to bore on about it but it’s an interest of mine (even as a humble PPL holder ).
No, no. You carry on. I don't know enough about the workings of commercial aircraft to make any useful (or intelligent) comments on what could possibly have happened. In cases like that I resort to "It was the island from. Lost" and "I dunno. Magic?".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?destination=%2fnews%2fworldviews%2fwp%2f2018%2f05%2f22%2finvestigators-insist-mh370-crash-was-an-accident-not-a-mass-murder-suicide-by-the-pilot%2f%3f&utm_term=.41a8489839c2
Captain could have simply waited until the FO went to the loo, locked him out of the cockpit (cockpit doors are impregnable following 9-11), manually depressurised the aircraft and donned his own mask to remain conscious.
He dipped the wing to say goodbye to his home town and flew onwards to fuel starvation and oblivion.
Read it. More clued in now.
Though, at 35,000+ feet, I'm inclined to believe that the bends would have done him in before he managed to get very far. Oxygen mask or not, sudden decompression would have made him lethargic and in pain. He may not have been conscious himself for very long.
Flight crew oxygen is separate to the passenger oxygen masks. Crew have quick donning masks which deliver oxygen under pressure and (IIRC) last for an hour or more (the reasons why are obvious when you think about it).
Passenger masks are only required to deliver oxygen for 15mins, which is (in theory) enough time to perform an emergency descent. "Correct. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho
As for the plane thing? NASA doesn't keep track of planes. It was off course, over the ocean, and had people who were able to take control of it (i.e. Add an element of human error).
Or most likely deliberately crash it, sadly.
I was trying to keep on the lighthearted side of that but... yes. Entirely possible.
Highly likely, sadly.
It was deliberately flown off course under full control. The only other possibility is some kind of pressurisation issue, but that seems far less likely than a deliberate act by one/both of the pilots (pilots have quick donning oxygen masks in the event of a depressurisation).
A good mate of mine flies Boeings for a living and he reckons it must have been deliberate.
Sorry to bore on about it but it’s an interest of mine (even as a humble PPL holder ).
No, no. You carry on. I don't know enough about the workings of commercial aircraft to make any useful (or intelligent) comments on what could possibly have happened. In cases like that I resort to "It was the island from. Lost" and "I dunno. Magic?".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/gdpr-consent/?destination=%2fnews%2fworldviews%2fwp%2f2018%2f05%2f22%2finvestigators-insist-mh370-crash-was-an-accident-not-a-mass-murder-suicide-by-the-pilot%2f%3f&utm_term=.41a8489839c2
Captain could have simply waited until the FO went to the loo, locked him out of the cockpit (cockpit doors are impregnable following 9-11), manually depressurised the aircraft and donned his own mask to remain conscious.
He dipped the wing to say goodbye to his home town and flew onwards to fuel starvation and oblivion.
Read it. More clued in now.
Though, at 35,000+ feet, I'm inclined to believe that the bends would have done him in before he managed to get very far. Oxygen mask or not, sudden decompression would have made him lethargic and in pain. He may not have been conscious himself for very long.
Flight crew oxygen is separate to the passenger oxygen masks. Crew have quick donning masks which deliver oxygen under pressure and (IIRC) last for an hour or more (the reasons why are obvious when you think about it).
Passenger masks are only required to deliver oxygen for 15mins, which is (in theory) enough time to perform an emergency descent.
See? Yet another thing that I learnt. But considering that the crew don't pre-breathe pure oxygen before a flight, then their tissues are saturated with nitrogen and bubbles can still form during sudden decompression.
You may well be right, but as I understand, crew oxygen is sufficient to keep the crew alive and functional enough to fly the aircraft, albeit not a comfortable experience.
On the subject of “the bends” my mate told me a couple of weeks back they almost had to divert due to a medical emergency. It was an evening flight out of Egypt, one of the passengers started feeling unwell and told the cabin crew he’d been diving that morning ... "He was silly to fly that day. We can’t fly after diving for a period of time and the time is dependent on the depth of the dive. | |||
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"So having read up on the subject have you now changed your opinion about the Mars mission OP? In all honestly , no . Please don’t tell me I had no education and that I’m thick though
I'm not. But I'm wondering why you still hold the same view now things have been explained more?
I think my final post on that thread said it all .
I found a suggestion from NASA that they could potentially get to Mars in three days before long . Traveling at 60,000 km per SECOND !
They could say anything and we would believe it , and ok , maybe I am a bit thick , but really ? How can the human brain comprehend that ?
Mine struggles to see how we sent a ship out doing the 140,000,000 miles in six months by just aiming it and then relying on gravity to propel it there . Yet we lose an aeroplane 38 minutes after it takes of between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing !
Hey ho "Good point. A tiny bit to the right and it would have missed it. | |||
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"I’ve seen your posts throughout the years on the forum and I wouldn’t call you thick as shit, lets put it that way. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses and subjects they excel in. I wouldn’t take it to heart. You’re entitled to post whatever you want on here but just need to be wary that you’re going to get all sorts of responses depending on the topic (and sometimes how it’s written). " | |||
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"There is one thing you can rely upon with dicks and that is when they aren't arriving in your inbox in picture form lots of them are posting on here in the forums. This place is anything but a helpful and supportive place most of the time. The only good thing about it is that it makes it so easy to block the right people. Sorry
Haha I’m afraid you’re blocked by default matey.
Funnily enough if we went to the pub together I reckon we would get on. You’re exactly my kind of cunt.
#fabbromance Ditto, couldn't leave my homie rudeboycane out though. What a motley crew that would be.
I hear ya.
He’s a true bro from another hoe. Legend .
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