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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t ." Just because you don’t know how to do it  | |||
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"yeap so is Mars,,infact so are my tits" Some would argue there fake..  | |||
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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t ." You’re sending that message through a device, that can connect to all the information that has been collected by man in the palm of your hand. So is that bollocks as well, cause you don’t understand it ? | |||
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"Science and mathmatics dont care what you think" They do.. they need to convince us... They do a bad job of that | |||
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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t . You’re sending that message through a device, that can connect to all the information that has been collected by man in the palm of your hand. So is that bollocks as well, cause you don’t understand it ?" That literally sounds like the impossible nonsense you only see in science fiction. As if they would be able to actually make such a device! I mean really, how on earth could written words and pictures possibly get from one side of the earth to the other, invisible to the naked eye, from one device to another in the blink of an eye? You’d have to be pretty gullible to believe that sort of nonsense!  | |||
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"Science and mathmatics dont care what you think They do.. they need to convince us... They do a bad job of that" No, really. Science has a pretty good track record of being correct regardless of how convinced people are about it. Gravity doesn’t magically stop working if you’re not convinced it’s a thing. | |||
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"Is this thread also link to the flat earth ones?" Well, the earth is flat, obvs. If it wasn’t how do you explain the fact that all four wheels on a car are touching the ground? If the earth was curved that would be literally inoossible! | |||
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"Of course, Gloscester doesn't really exist either ... " Gloucester even! | |||
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"Is this thread also link to the flat earth ones?" The flat earth society has members all around the globe  | |||
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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t ." I don't know how to do it so it must be fake lol Conspiracy loons in coming Tin foil hat on | |||
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"No. It’s the real deal. No fake news here. " then why has the word conspiracy got ‘CON’ at the beginning? That means something for sure. | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope . I don’t believe the earth is flat . I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ? " It's a scientific mission to understand more about our own planet. Mars formed at a similar time from the same material but turned out differently. We might also colonise Mars at some point so want to know more about it. I'm sure there's more. The internet will explain things better I'm sure. | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it." OK. "I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming." To be fair, that sounds a lot like you saying you don’t know how they did it...
Don’t forget there’s no atmosphere in space so it takes a lot less fuel to propel something. And materials are incredibly light now compared to the time of the moon landing.
"I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope . I don’t believe the earth is flat . I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ? " What would you say to someone who said what you have said about Mars, but about the moon? The point, presumably is the same as why Columbus sailed to the New World. Man’s inate desire to explore. | |||
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"No. It’s the real deal. No fake news here. then why has the word conspiracy got ‘CON’ at the beginning? That means something for sure. "Yeah I guess but I’m this day in age why bother? | |||
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"And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming ." There’s no resistance in space. It reaches the velocity required using fuel. Then it literally keeps going as there is nothing to stop it. | |||
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"No. It’s the real deal. No fake news here. then why has the word conspiracy got ‘CON’ at the beginning? That means something for sure.
Yeah I guess but I’m this day in age why bother? "I think they did go. Your question? God knows. Some sod is getting paid to do fuck all and it ain’t me. | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it. OK. I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming. To be fair, that sounds a lot like you saying you don’t know how they did it...
Don’t forget there’s no atmosphere in space so it takes a lot less fuel to propel something. And materials are incredibly light now compared to the time of the moon landing.
I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope .
I don’t believe the earth is flat .
I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ?
What would you say to someone who said what you have said about Mars, but about the moon?
The point, presumably is the same as why Columbus sailed to the New World. Man’s inate desire to explore."For the purpose of the thread I looked up what we learned from the moon missions . And the answer is apart from knowing a bit about rocks , their age in billions of years , and a few volcanic eruptions , the answer is fuck all . So I’m guessing we will learn about the same from this Mars mission . Assuming it’s real if course | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it. OK. I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming. To be fair, that sounds a lot like you saying you don’t know how they did it...
Don’t forget there’s no atmosphere in space so it takes a lot less fuel to propel something. And materials are incredibly light now compared to the time of the moon landing.
I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope .
I don’t believe the earth is flat .
I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ?
What would you say to someone who said what you have said about Mars, but about the moon?
The point, presumably is the same as why Columbus sailed to the New World. Man’s inate desire to explore.
For the purpose of the thread I looked up what we learned from the moon missions .
And the answer is apart from knowing a bit about rocks , their age in billions of years , and a few volcanic eruptions , the answer is fuck all .
So I’m guessing we will learn about the same from this Mars mission . Assuming it’s real if course "Wow. Is that really all we learned? Really? | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit" Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit" Was the space shuttle real? | |||
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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t ." No I've seen the film ' martian' I believe | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence?" The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since???" That’s not evidence. It has happened since. | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it. OK. I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming. To be fair, that sounds a lot like you saying you don’t know how they did it...
Don’t forget there’s no atmosphere in space so it takes a lot less fuel to propel something. And materials are incredibly light now compared to the time of the moon landing.
I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope .
I don’t believe the earth is flat .
I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ?
What would you say to someone who said what you have said about Mars, but about the moon?
The point, presumably is the same as why Columbus sailed to the New World. Man’s inate desire to explore.
For the purpose of the thread I looked up what we learned from the moon missions .
And the answer is apart from knowing a bit about rocks , their age in billions of years , and a few volcanic eruptions , the answer is fuck all .
So I’m guessing we will learn about the same from this Mars mission . Assuming it’s real if course
Wow. Is that really all we learned?
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since???" Cost. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost." Saving up for a Mars trip ? | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost." Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since???" In terms of humans not setting foot on the moon since Apollo 17, Congress funding was dramatically reduced after the 'race' was run. Once it either becomes commercially viable to return, or a necessary stepping stone to Mars, we will return. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? In terms of humans not setting foot on the moon since Apollo 17, Congress funding was dramatically reduced after the 'race' was run. Once it either becomes commercially viable to return, or a necessary stepping stone to Mars, we will return." But it never actually happened in the first instance. It's all propaganda | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost "I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? In terms of humans not setting foot on the moon since Apollo 17, Congress funding was dramatically reduced after the 'race' was run. Once it either becomes commercially viable to return, or a necessary stepping stone to Mars, we will return. But it never actually happened in the first instance. It's all propaganda "Ah, so you are just joking in your comments. Makes a lot more sense now | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? In terms of humans not setting foot on the moon since Apollo 17, Congress funding was dramatically reduced after the 'race' was run. Once it either becomes commercially viable to return, or a necessary stepping stone to Mars, we will return. But it never actually happened in the first instance. It's all propaganda "Yes comrade | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget. "Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon. Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event? What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat? | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?"Someone turned to rock, one became all bendy, another got a bit hot and the lady vanished? | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?"Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Someone turned to rock, one became all bendy, another got a bit hot and the lady vanished? "Saw the movie based on a true story I believe | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Someone turned to rock, one became all bendy, another got a bit hot and the lady vanished?
Saw the movie based on a true story I believe "Very good acting on all parts | |||
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"Science and mathmatics dont care what you think They do.. they need to convince us... They do a bad job of that No, really. Science has a pretty good track record of being correct regardless of how convinced people are about it. Gravity doesn’t magically stop working if you’re not convinced it’s a thing. " | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost."Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete."It also helped that the US got most of the German rocket scientists, design schematics and hardware at the end of WW2. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete."I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president?? | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??"I see. So everything about the US is fake now, because of the JFK conspiracy? | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??"I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction. | |||
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Urban myth I'm afraid."Yep. Made for a good joke though | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??
I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction."Not debating the money spent on the supremacy for space and yes you make some valid arguments in support. But nevertheless I will always be of the opinion that it never actually happened. It's been widely debated for years as to whether it actually occurred. Always will be another unanswered question | |||
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"It's all real. There are missions into space. You can go look at the rockets at Kennedy space center. It's not a big expensive pointless hoax. The world is round, evolution is real, astrophysics is real. The pyramids and ancient Egyptian/mayan civilization is probably older than people first believed. (I think) " Another question. Who actually built the pyramids? How many men and years would it have taken to build just 1 of them. Im sure more than the life expectancy of most men at that time period | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??
I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction.
Not debating the money spent on the supremacy for space and yes you make some valid arguments in support. But nevertheless I will always be of the opinion that it never actually happened. It's been widely debated for years as to whether it actually occurred. Always will be another unanswered question"No worries . It is, of course, your right to believe whatever you want, no matter the evidence/common sense to the contrary. You might like to know that over the years, pretty much all the conspiracy theories have been scientifically and robustly debunked, but I doubt that will sway your opinion
About the only question I still have is why most, if not all, of the Apollo astronauts who went to the moon didn't get cancer, given the lethal radiation they would have been exposed to being beyond the Van Allen belts. I must admit that I've not seen a convincing argument for that. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??
I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction.
Not debating the money spent on the supremacy for space and yes you make some valid arguments in support. But nevertheless I will always be of the opinion that it never actually happened. It's been widely debated for years as to whether it actually occurred. Always will be another unanswered question
No worries . It is, of course, your right to believe whatever you want, no matter the evidence/common sense to the contrary. You might like to know that over the years, pretty much all the conspiracy theories have been scientifically and robustly debunked, but I doubt that will sway your opinion
About the only question I still have is why most, if not all, of the Apollo astronauts who went to the moon didn't get cancer, given the lethal radiation they would have been exposed to being beyond the Van Allen belts. I must admit that I've not seen a convincing argument for that."So can anyone really be entirely certain? Even you have unanswered questions. Maybe the moon has a cure for cancer | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??
I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction.
Not debating the money spent on the supremacy for space and yes you make some valid arguments in support. But nevertheless I will always be of the opinion that it never actually happened. It's been widely debated for years as to whether it actually occurred. Always will be another unanswered question
No worries . It is, of course, your right to believe whatever you want, no matter the evidence/common sense to the contrary. You might like to know that over the years, pretty much all the conspiracy theories have been scientifically and robustly debunked, but I doubt that will sway your opinion
About the only question I still have is why most, if not all, of the Apollo astronauts who went to the moon didn't get cancer, given the lethal radiation they would have been exposed to being beyond the Van Allen belts. I must admit that I've not seen a convincing argument for that.
So can anyone really be entirely certain? Even you have unanswered questions. Maybe the moon has a cure for cancer "Well an unanswered question anyway, which certainly neither proves nor disproves the missions. Maybe the NHS should start funding missions there . And on that note, I say goodnight. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??
I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction.
Not debating the money spent on the supremacy for space and yes you make some valid arguments in support. But nevertheless I will always be of the opinion that it never actually happened. It's been widely debated for years as to whether it actually occurred. Always will be another unanswered question
No worries . It is, of course, your right to believe whatever you want, no matter the evidence/common sense to the contrary. You might like to know that over the years, pretty much all the conspiracy theories have been scientifically and robustly debunked, but I doubt that will sway your opinion
About the only question I still have is why most, if not all, of the Apollo astronauts who went to the moon didn't get cancer, given the lethal radiation they would have been exposed to being beyond the Van Allen belts. I must admit that I've not seen a convincing argument for that."flattards and moodtards often like to use the van allen belts as the go to that no space travel is possible.. despite it being van allen who actually did the work to get the astronauts into space by calculating the intensity and the amount of time the spacemen would travel through it... though flattards etc, will often cite "but duhhh van allen beltshhhh!!!" I honestly am getting sick of conspiracies that actually make no sense...flat earth, moon hoaxing, chemtrails etc etc... the costs to hide such amazing 'features', would be utterly pointless for a start..and thats just to shut up a few million people for a start. and you really gotta ask yourself when a youtube 'scientist' dmarble...asks why the sky is blue, but space looks black..you know you're in trouble when he has several thousand idiots thinking this guy knows shit. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??
I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction.
Not debating the money spent on the supremacy for space and yes you make some valid arguments in support. But nevertheless I will always be of the opinion that it never actually happened. It's been widely debated for years as to whether it actually occurred. Always will be another unanswered question
No worries . It is, of course, your right to believe whatever you want, no matter the evidence/common sense to the contrary. You might like to know that over the years, pretty much all the conspiracy theories have been scientifically and robustly debunked, but I doubt that will sway your opinion
About the only question I still have is why most, if not all, of the Apollo astronauts who went to the moon didn't get cancer, given the lethal radiation they would have been exposed to being beyond the Van Allen belts. I must admit that I've not seen a convincing argument for that."*the intense radiation IS the van allen belts | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope . I don’t believe the earth is flat . I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ? " They've sent a probe all around our solar system.... look it up. Theres a very famous picture that was taken showing earth as a very tiny insignificant blue dot in the vastness of space. This isn't the 1st mission beyond our tiny atmosphere. You should look up some of the data out there | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? In terms of humans not setting foot on the moon since Apollo 17, Congress funding was dramatically reduced after the 'race' was run. Once it either becomes commercially viable to return, or a necessary stepping stone to Mars, we will return." I think the international space station will fullfill that role now. | |||
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"Why don't they point the camera towards earth and take a picture..put the flat earth theory to bed. ..?? There are no pictures of the earth from space .? Why not ? Surely it would be one of first things to do.?? "Um, yes there are. There were photographs taken of the Earth from the moon | |||
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"Another question. Who actually built the pyramids? How many men and years would it have taken to build just 1 of them. Im sure more than the life expectancy of most men at that time period" The hyroglyphs and stone tools they had are left around the desert. The depictions show a sledge with a pharo statute ontop being pulled by a group of people holding a rope. Experts believe the sand was wet. Nah pal. Ancient Egyptians were smarter than people today. Their technology and knowledge was lost to us but it's still being discovered today. They had quirky ways of cutting stone and where they built the pyramids and why. Stuff people couldn't do even now with all the technology we have. They were doing it with manpower, horsepower, physics and mathematics. It's still a mystery to us because the world has passed through many "dark ages" and lost this knowledge. We ignorantly thought we knew everything but the Egyptians were very clued up on the stars/universe and architecture/engineering. The Egyptians were around for a very very very long time and they had a very very very advanced society. They couldn't build engines or space travel or helicopters (dispite drawing otherwise) But I think they were experimenting with electricity and positive/negative energies well before tesla Edison and swan. The Egyptians, Mayans and a few other ancients knew the cosmos better than anyone untill Carl saigan in the 1970s. | |||
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"Why don't they point the camera towards earth and take a picture..put the flat earth theory to bed. ..?? There are no pictures of the earth from space .? Why not ? Surely it would be one of first things to do.?? "they have...flattards and moontards say this consistently. the himawari satellite takes pics of the earth every 10 minutes...but NASA is fake...so are all these other space agencies..it's a mass deception that involves billions of people.......and you get killed if ya spill the beans.  | |||
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"Why don't they point the camera towards earth and take a picture..put the flat earth theory to bed. ..?? There are no pictures of the earth from space .? Why not ? Surely it would be one of first things to do.??
Um, yes there are. There were photographs taken of the Earth from the moon"If u believe we went there... The realjimmyroberts on u tube..goes thro loads of stuff...theres a nasa photo meant to be on mars..lol a a fella is standing in top left near a rock..take a look..its there on nasa's site....lol | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope . I don’t believe the earth is flat . I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ? " Your comment about fuel shows you don't understand how spaceflight works. There's no air, so no drag. If the engines were firing constantly for six months, the spacecraft would be accelerating constantly for six months. It would be travelling far too fast to land on Mars, or even enter Martian orbit; it would go screaming past the planet at a literally astronimical velocity. After separating from the launch rocket, the Insight spacecraft's engines only made six short burns, to put it on the correct course to make its rendevous. The rest of the time, it was just coasting along. | |||
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"Why don't they point the camera towards earth and take a picture..put the flat earth theory to bed. ..?? There are no pictures of the earth from space .? Why not ? Surely it would be one of first things to do.??
they have...flattards and moontards say this consistently.
the himawari satellite takes pics of the earth every 10 minutes...but NASA is fake...so are all these other space agencies..it's a mass deception that involves billions of people.......and you get killed if ya spill the beans. "Cheers I.ll have check out on satellite. . | |||
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"Why don't they point the camera towards earth and take a picture..put the flat earth theory to bed. ..?? There are no pictures of the earth from space .? Why not ? Surely it would be one of first things to do.?? "Your funny....pmsl | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope . I don’t believe the earth is flat . I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ? Your comment about fuel shows you don't understand how spaceflight works. There's no air, so no drag. If the engines were firing constantly for six months, the spacecraft would be accelerating constantly for six months. It would be travelling far too fast to land on Mars, or even enter Martian orbit; it would go screaming past the planet at a literally astronimical velocity. After separating from the launch rocket, the Insight spacecraft's engines only made six short burns, to put it on the correct course to make its rendevous. The rest of the time, it was just coasting along." That’s why I started the thread , I don’t get how it can travel at the speed of a bullet for six months and land so precisely millions of miles away . I guess I’m just thick , but my brain can’t fathom it . | |||
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" That’s why I started the thread , I don’t get how it can travel at the speed of a bullet for six months and land so precisely millions of miles away . I guess I’m just thick , but my brain can’t fathom it ." No gravity | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope . I don’t believe the earth is flat . I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ? Your comment about fuel shows you don't understand how spaceflight works. There's no air, so no drag. If the engines were firing constantly for six months, the spacecraft would be accelerating constantly for six months. It would be travelling far too fast to land on Mars, or even enter Martian orbit; it would go screaming past the planet at a literally astronimical velocity. After separating from the launch rocket, the Insight spacecraft's engines only made six short burns, to put it on the correct course to make its rendevous. The rest of the time, it was just coasting along. That’s why I started the thread , I don’t get how it can travel at the speed of a bullet for six months and land so precisely millions of miles away . I guess I’m just thick , but my brain can’t fathom it ." The mathematics isn't all that complicated in the grand scheme of things. Newton and Kepler had the fundamentals of it down centuries ago. | |||
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"Why don't they point the camera towards earth and take a picture..put the flat earth theory to bed. ..?? There are no pictures of the earth from space .? Why not ? Surely it would be one of first things to do.??
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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t ." I think Lister, Rimmer, Kryton and the Cat got there before them
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"Who the hell would want to go live on Mars anyway. It would be like live at the North Pole with only a blanket to keep you warm and that's on a hot day on Mars." People who are dying or death row convicts offered 2nd chance. Also there are a few people who genuinely don't care and would be willing to go and spend a life sentence on mars. | |||
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It's cold outside......"Nice one, I have actually met Robert Llewellyn and he is a really nice guy | |||
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"the himawari satellite takes pics of the earth every 10 minutes...but NASA is fake...so are all these other space agencies..it's a mass deception that involves billions of people.......and you get killed if ya spill the beans. "That reminds me of the guy who tried to investigate the moon landings, going to Edgar Mitchell's house and ending up literally getting kicked in the ass by him haha. The funny thing was, in the kerfuffle and haste to leave as he and his cameraman were kicked out, they forgot to take the microphones or switch them off, and later on heard Mitchell's son ask him "You want me to call the CIA? Have them waxed?" That's a bit harsh!  (I do like that smiley) | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope . I don’t believe the earth is flat . I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ? " Newton's first law of physics tells us "A body in motion remains in motion unless it is acted on by an external force". In the vacuum of space, there is no external force acting on an object to slow it down. The only fuel required is to accelerate the craft in the first place and then slow it at the other end. Cal | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope . I don’t believe the earth is flat . I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ? Newton's first law of physics tells us "A body in motion remains in motion unless it is acted on by an external force". In the vacuum of space, there is no external force acting on an object to slow it down. The only fuel required is to accelerate the craft in the first place and then slow it at the other end. Cal " you've seen the film. ' martian ' to | |||
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"No. It’s the real deal. No fake news here. " not sky or cnn or the Sunday sport then | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope . I don’t believe the earth is flat . I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ? " First of all you obviously don't understand how they did it. It doesnt use fuel it uses momentum from gravity The space station is travelling at 18000 mph I think .do you think that's fake? No object on the moon can be seen with a telescope They are photographed by probes | |||
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"And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . There’s no resistance in space. It reaches the velocity required using fuel. Then it literally keeps going as there is nothing to stop it. " Funny how my 10 year old has no problem understanding this | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope . I don’t believe the earth is flat . I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ? " But you've just proved you don't know how they did it. It takes off gets to speed and stop using fuel for 98% or more of the journey other than minor course corrections, there is nothing to slow it down, most of the electricity is generated from the unlimited and unobstructed solar power. Then when it gets there it uses fuel to slow down and land. Solar power on Mars is also very easy with such little atmosphere other than at night. It really isn't very hard to understand. | |||
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"The best thing about science is that it doesn't need you to believe in it to be true
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"The best thing about science is that it doesn't need you to believe in it to be true
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Not all science is true tho..."Which is why it's constantly being tested, peer-reviewed, and changed
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"Who the hell would want to go live on Mars anyway. It would be like live at the North Pole with only a blanket to keep you warm and that's on a hot day on Mars." We only know what they tell us...the realjimmyroberts...u tube | |||
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Which is why it's constantly being tested, peer-reviewed, and changed
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Which is why it's constantly being tested, peer-reviewed, and changed
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"Why don't they point the camera towards earth and take a picture..put the flat earth theory to bed. ..?? There are no pictures of the earth from space .? Why not ? Surely it would be one of first things to do.?? "You ever used google earth?? | |||
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"Why don't they point the camera towards earth and take a picture..put the flat earth theory to bed. ..?? There are no pictures of the earth from space .? Why not ? Surely it would be one of first things to do.??
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"I hear it helps you work rest and play . " Enough of your waffle Mars Bar man, do you have any intelligible input on the subject at hand? | |||
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"The government would have us believe lots of nonsense from global warming to Mars travel.. if they fo visit mars then my question is whether they have self defense weapons in spaceships like pistols or lazers. Also who is to say that the ancient civilization never came from space ..." Somebody who failed at science. If I was your teacher I'd be ashamed | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost "That's our frontal lobes for you wanting to discover more | |||
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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t . So what's your conspiracy theory then? This should be funny. " I don’t have a conspiracy theory . So I’m sorry I don’t have anything there to amuse you . I just ( as you point out on your next post ) , don’t really understand it all . As I said , it’s difficult to see the point of it in the first place . We learned nothing from the moon landings apart from how old a few rocks were . If the information we have thus far in Mars is true , it’s minus 83 degrees , has no water , nothing grows there , and once you’re there it’s unlikely you could come back . And what the fuck would you do for over six months on a spaceship ? Look forward to the new life on Mars ? It’s not exactly a pleasant prospect is it ? And remember , we knew all this before this landing , if we believe it happened . When I was a kid at school , David Bowie asked if there was life on Mars . We had no idea , but it was just a fantasy then . We weren’t taught about splitting atoms , creating speed in space , zero gravity and it’s effect on propulsion etc.... or at least if we were taught it , I certainly don’t remember it or understand it . And other than a bit of ridicule from a few swingers on this site , it hasn’t troubled me at all . So I won’t be losing any sleep over my obvious lack of knowledge . | |||
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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t . So what's your conspiracy theory then? This should be funny. I don’t have a conspiracy theory . So I’m sorry I don’t have anything there to amuse you . I just ( as you point out on your next post ) , don’t really understand it all . As I said , it’s difficult to see the point of it in the first place . We learned nothing from the moon landings apart from how old a few rocks were . If the information we have thus far in Mars is true , it’s minus 83 degrees , has no water , nothing grows there , and once you’re there it’s unlikely you could come back . And what the fuck would you do for over six months on a spaceship ? Look forward to the new life on Mars ? It’s not exactly a pleasant prospect is it ? And remember , we knew all this before this landing , if we believe it happened . When I was a kid at school , David Bowie asked if there was life on Mars . We had no idea , but it was just a fantasy then . We weren’t taught about splitting atoms , creating speed in space , zero gravity and it’s effect on propulsion etc.... or at least if we were taught it , I certainly don’t remember it or understand it . And other than a bit of ridicule from a few swingers on this site , it hasn’t troubled me at all . So I won’t be losing any sleep over my obvious lack of knowledge . "And there, in the last sentence, we have the nub of the problem. | |||
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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t . So what's your conspiracy theory then? This should be funny. I don’t have a conspiracy theory . So I’m sorry I don’t have anything there to amuse you . I just ( as you point out on your next post ) , don’t really understand it all . As I said , it’s difficult to see the point of it in the first place . We learned nothing from the moon landings apart from how old a few rocks were . If the information we have thus far in Mars is true , it’s minus 83 degrees , has no water , nothing grows there , and once you’re there it’s unlikely you could come back . And what the fuck would you do for over six months on a spaceship ? Look forward to the new life on Mars ? It’s not exactly a pleasant prospect is it ? And remember , we knew all this before this landing , if we believe it happened . When I was a kid at school , David Bowie asked if there was life on Mars . We had no idea , but it was just a fantasy then . We weren’t taught about splitting atoms , creating speed in space , zero gravity and it’s effect on propulsion etc.... or at least if we were taught it , I certainly don’t remember it or understand it . And other than a bit of ridicule from a few swingers on this site , it hasn’t troubled me at all . So I won’t be losing any sleep over my obvious lack of knowledge . "If Mars in its ancient history ever had organic matter on it, there is a chance that there would be huge untapped mineral resources. If so, this would pay for further missions and research. Of the nearest possible places to get to with current technology, Mars has the atmosphere most conducive to sustaining human life. The other close alternative, Venus, is a shithole with temps at over 400 degrees. Similar to Syria | |||
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"My point is whether manned space flight crew have weapons and what are their intention to use them .. if they found an alien species would they kill it and take it back in the interests of science. Some very uncomfortable questions here And If don't rule out that ancient civilization arrived on spacecraft..there are lots of books about this" Lasers on space craft? I think you have watched too many star wars films. There are no little green men flying around between earth and mars. There may be life out of our solar system but certainly nothing in it. Our solar system is so large a human will not live long enough to travel out. There is no evidence of life off earth. Mans greatest discovery one day will be we are either alone or we are not On a similar subject any one ever seen the people who push this ancient aliens myth on history channel? | |||
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"No. It’s the real deal. No fake news here. then why has the word conspiracy got ‘CON’ at the beginning? That means something for sure. "CON means ‘with’. You’re welcome Steve. Latin innit bruv. That mars photo was something else. Can’t get the trains to run on time but we can.....sort of fing | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since???" Youve pretty much answered your own question. If it had been a fake Russia/the then Soviet Union had the means to prove that it were a fake. The KGB had a number of operatives embedded throughout NASA. They also had the tech to track and monitor the US moon missions. If they had been in anyway faked the Russians would have produced the evidence for the world to see in order to discredit the Americans. | |||
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"It's all real. There are missions into space. You can go look at the rockets at Kennedy space center. It's not a big expensive pointless hoax. The world is round, evolution is real, astrophysics is real. The pyramids and ancient Egyptian/mayan civilization is probably older than people first believed. (I think) Another question. Who actually built the pyramids? How many men and years would it have taken to build just 1 of them. Im sure more than the life expectancy of most men at that time period" Quite possibly, your average medieval Cathedral took 40 odd years to be built which was the life span of many at the time (hasnt it taken 100 years plus for the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona to be built? ). I'm pretty sure your Egyptians didnt stop the moment the first worker passed away due to old age saying 'well that's it chaps best stop now, even if we are 20 years short of doing the pointy bit' | |||
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"It's all real. There are missions into space. You can go look at the rockets at Kennedy space center. It's not a big expensive pointless hoax. The world is round, evolution is real, astrophysics is real. The pyramids and ancient Egyptian/mayan civilization is probably older than people first believed. (I think) Another question. Who actually built the pyramids? How many men and years would it have taken to build just 1 of them. Im sure more than the life expectancy of most men at that time period Quite possibly, your average medieval Cathedral took 40 odd years to be built which was the life span of many at the time (hasnt it taken 100 years plus for the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona to be built? ). I'm pretty sure your Egyptians didnt stop the moment the first worker passed away due to old age saying 'well that's it chaps best stop now, even if we are 20 years short of doing the pointy bit' " The estimates are that the Great Pyramid at Giza took about 20 uears to build. Monumental construction in Egypt benefited from the fact that the country had a comparatively large population who had very little to do for several months of the year, because the Nile had flooded all the farmland. | |||
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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t . So what's your conspiracy theory then? This should be funny. I don’t have a conspiracy theory . So I’m sorry I don’t have anything there to amuse you . I just ( as you point out on your next post ) , don’t really understand it all . As I said , it’s difficult to see the point of it in the first place . We learned nothing from the moon landings apart from how old a few rocks were . If the information we have thus far in Mars is true , it’s minus 83 degrees , has no water , nothing grows there , and once you’re there it’s unlikely you could come back . And what the fuck would you do for over six months on a spaceship ? Look forward to the new life on Mars ? It’s not exactly a pleasant prospect is it ? And remember , we knew all this before this landing , if we believe it happened . When I was a kid at school , David Bowie asked if there was life on Mars . We had no idea , but it was just a fantasy then . We weren’t taught about splitting atoms , creating speed in space , zero gravity and it’s effect on propulsion etc.... or at least if we were taught it , I certainly don’t remember it or understand it . And other than a bit of ridicule from a few swingers on this site , it hasn’t troubled me at all . So I won’t be losing any sleep over my obvious lack of knowledge .
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As I mentioned in an earlier post , the odd bit of ridicule from a few on a swinging site isn’t gonna make me lose any sleep "No ridicule, just suggesting that their are alot of things that 99.99% of us haven’t a clue as to how it actually works. It doesn’t mean it is just magic or it didn’t happen | |||
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"It's all real. There are missions into space. You can go look at the rockets at Kennedy space center. It's not a big expensive pointless hoax. The world is round, evolution is real, astrophysics is real. The pyramids and ancient Egyptian/mayan civilization is probably older than people first believed. (I think) Another question. Who actually built the pyramids? How many men and years would it have taken to build just 1 of them. Im sure more than the life expectancy of most men at that time period Quite possibly, your average medieval Cathedral took 40 odd years to be built which was the life span of many at the time (hasnt it taken 100 years plus for the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona to be built? ). I'm pretty sure your Egyptians didnt stop the moment the first worker passed away due to old age saying 'well that's it chaps best stop now, even if we are 20 years short of doing the pointy bit' The estimates are that the Great Pyramid at Giza took about 20 uears to build. Monumental construction in Egypt benefited from the fact that the country had a comparatively large population who had very little to do for several months of the year, because the Nile had flooded all the farmland." New evidence has also recently come to light as to how they were built. A chief architect of the time's tomb has been discovered and the original theory that they used huge ramps to drag the blocks to the upper levels has been confirmed by pictographs and hieroglyphs found in the tomb. The images show most of the workers are in traditional Egyptian clothing of the times showing that they were citizens and very few slaves, who were depicted differently. | |||
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"I’m fairly sure there are laser reflectors on the moon left there by the Apollo missions that’s fairly substantial evidence to say that the USA went there and that it wasn’t faked otherwise it will be quiet embarrassing for America when someone inevitably goes back to the moon and find nothing there" Yes. They measure the distance between the Earth and Moon. There's no way the moon landings were faked. | |||
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" I think it was Sir Isaac Newton that invented gravity. " Blimey, what happened before he invented gravity? Must have been a lot of floating around in medieval times... | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? In terms of humans not setting foot on the moon since Apollo 17, Congress funding was dramatically reduced after the 'race' was run. Once it either becomes commercially viable to return, or a necessary stepping stone to Mars, we will return. I think the international space station will fullfill that role now. " Probably in part, yes, but I have read articles where for certain things they will be eventually doing on Mars they need to test them out on the moon first. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? In terms of humans not setting foot on the moon since Apollo 17, Congress funding was dramatically reduced after the 'race' was run. Once it either becomes commercially viable to return, or a necessary stepping stone to Mars, we will return. I think the international space station will fullfill that role now. Probably in part, yes, but I have read articles where for certain things they will be eventually doing on Mars they need to test them out on the moon first." Also, the ISS is surprisingly not scheduled to be operational for all that much longer. I think I heard something like 2026 or something like that (might be wrong though). I doubt we'll get humans to Mars before 2030. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??
I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction.
Not debating the money spent on the supremacy for space and yes you make some valid arguments in support. But nevertheless I will always be of the opinion that it never actually happened. It's been widely debated for years as to whether it actually occurred. Always will be another unanswered question
No worries . It is, of course, your right to believe whatever you want, no matter the evidence/common sense to the contrary. You might like to know that over the years, pretty much all the conspiracy theories have been scientifically and robustly debunked, but I doubt that will sway your opinion
About the only question I still have is why most, if not all, of the Apollo astronauts who went to the moon didn't get cancer, given the lethal radiation they would have been exposed to being beyond the Van Allen belts. I must admit that I've not seen a convincing argument for that.
flattards and moodtards often like to use the van allen belts as the go to that no space travel is possible..
despite it being van allen who actually did the work to get the astronauts into space by calculating the intensity and the amount of time the spacemen would travel through it... though flattards etc, will often cite "but duhhh van allen beltshhhh!!!"
I honestly am getting sick of conspiracies that actually make no sense...flat earth, moon hoaxing, chemtrails etc etc...
the costs to hide such amazing 'features', would be utterly pointless for a start..and thats just to shut up a few million people for a start.
and you really gotta ask yourself when a youtube 'scientist' dmarble...asks why the sky is blue, but space looks black..you know you're in trouble when he has several thousand idiots thinking this guy knows shit."Wow, nice tone! I was actually referring to radiation (cosmic rays, solar flares etc.) beyond the Van Allen belts (hence my use of the word 'beyond'), but maybe the journey to the moon and back was short enough for them not to have been exposed too much and they possibly had to time the trips for period of low solar flare activity. By asking the question above I certainly wasn't suggesting I think they never went there - in fact all my comments on this thread have strongly said otherwise. I'd suspect the above issue would be a major factor on a journey to Mars though. I wonder how they'll protect the crew? | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??
I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction.
Not debating the money spent on the supremacy for space and yes you make some valid arguments in support. But nevertheless I will always be of the opinion that it never actually happened. It's been widely debated for years as to whether it actually occurred. Always will be another unanswered question
No worries . It is, of course, your right to believe whatever you want, no matter the evidence/common sense to the contrary. You might like to know that over the years, pretty much all the conspiracy theories have been scientifically and robustly debunked, but I doubt that will sway your opinion
About the only question I still have is why most, if not all, of the Apollo astronauts who went to the moon didn't get cancer, given the lethal radiation they would have been exposed to being beyond the Van Allen belts. I must admit that I've not seen a convincing argument for that.
flattards and moodtards often like to use the van allen belts as the go to that no space travel is possible..
despite it being van allen who actually did the work to get the astronauts into space by calculating the intensity and the amount of time the spacemen would travel through it... though flattards etc, will often cite "but duhhh van allen beltshhhh!!!"
I honestly am getting sick of conspiracies that actually make no sense...flat earth, moon hoaxing, chemtrails etc etc...
the costs to hide such amazing 'features', would be utterly pointless for a start..and thats just to shut up a few million people for a start.
and you really gotta ask yourself when a youtube 'scientist' dmarble...asks why the sky is blue, but space looks black..you know you're in trouble when he has several thousand idiots thinking this guy knows shit.
Wow, nice tone! I was actually referring to radiation (cosmic rays, solar flares etc.) beyond the Van Allen belts (hence my use of the word 'beyond'), but maybe the journey to the moon and back was short enough for them not to have been exposed too much and they possibly had to time the trips for period of low solar flare activity. By asking the question above I certainly wasn't suggesting I think they never went there - in fact all my comments on this thread have strongly said otherwise.
I'd suspect the above issue would be a major factor on a journey to Mars though. I wonder how they'll protect the crew?"You're nearly right. Radiation levels beyond the atmosphere aren't constant; as long as you're not in the path of the radiation stream from an event like a solar flare, getting to and from the moon isn't a problem. NASA used the best information available at the time to avoid that, but in the end they were rolling the dice every time; the odds of getting caught were pretty low, but definitely not zero. Getting to Mars is a whole other story. The probability of being caught in a radiation burst goes up the longer your journey. Any sensible mission planner would have to assume the ship would be hit, and include a way for the crew (and the ship's systems) to survive it. | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . I do believe in the moon landing , you can see stuff left up there through a telescope . I don’t believe the earth is flat . I just can’t see how and why all this is going on with Mars . What’s the point ? How , why , and to what end ? " The ship only needs fuel to escape the earth's atmosphere and gravity, after that, it's pre determined trajectory is such thst passes other planitary bodies closely using tbeir pull ov gravity to accelerate it. As it's travelling through a vacuum theirs no "drag" can go indefinitely. To answer why do it, fuck knows lol | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??
I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction.
Not debating the money spent on the supremacy for space and yes you make some valid arguments in support. But nevertheless I will always be of the opinion that it never actually happened. It's been widely debated for years as to whether it actually occurred. Always will be another unanswered question
No worries . It is, of course, your right to believe whatever you want, no matter the evidence/common sense to the contrary. You might like to know that over the years, pretty much all the conspiracy theories have been scientifically and robustly debunked, but I doubt that will sway your opinion
About the only question I still have is why most, if not all, of the Apollo astronauts who went to the moon didn't get cancer, given the lethal radiation they would have been exposed to being beyond the Van Allen belts. I must admit that I've not seen a convincing argument for that.
flattards and moodtards often like to use the van allen belts as the go to that no space travel is possible..
despite it being van allen who actually did the work to get the astronauts into space by calculating the intensity and the amount of time the spacemen would travel through it... though flattards etc, will often cite "but duhhh van allen beltshhhh!!!"
I honestly am getting sick of conspiracies that actually make no sense...flat earth, moon hoaxing, chemtrails etc etc...
the costs to hide such amazing 'features', would be utterly pointless for a start..and thats just to shut up a few million people for a start.
and you really gotta ask yourself when a youtube 'scientist' dmarble...asks why the sky is blue, but space looks black..you know you're in trouble when he has several thousand idiots thinking this guy knows shit.
Wow, nice tone! I was actually referring to radiation (cosmic rays, solar flares etc.) beyond the Van Allen belts (hence my use of the word 'beyond'), but maybe the journey to the moon and back was short enough for them not to have been exposed too much and they possibly had to time the trips for period of low solar flare activity. By asking the question above I certainly wasn't suggesting I think they never went there - in fact all my comments on this thread have strongly said otherwise.
I'd suspect the above issue would be a major factor on a journey to Mars though. I wonder how they'll protect the crew?
You're nearly right. Radiation levels beyond the atmosphere aren't constant; as long as you're not in the path of the radiation stream from an event like a solar flare, getting to and from the moon isn't a problem. NASA used the best information available at the time to avoid that, but in the end they were rolling the dice every time; the odds of getting caught were pretty low, but definitely not zero.
Getting to Mars is a whole other story. The probability of being caught in a radiation burst goes up the longer your journey. Any sensible mission planner would have to assume the ship would be hit, and include a way for the crew (and the ship's systems) to survive it."That all makes sense. Thanks. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit" Amen to that | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??
I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction.
Not debating the money spent on the supremacy for space and yes you make some valid arguments in support. But nevertheless I will always be of the opinion that it never actually happened. It's been widely debated for years as to whether it actually occurred. Always will be another unanswered question
No worries . It is, of course, your right to believe whatever you want, no matter the evidence/common sense to the contrary. You might like to know that over the years, pretty much all the conspiracy theories have been scientifically and robustly debunked, but I doubt that will sway your opinion
About the only question I still have is why most, if not all, of the Apollo astronauts who went to the moon didn't get cancer, given the lethal radiation they would have been exposed to being beyond the Van Allen belts. I must admit that I've not seen a convincing argument for that.
flattards and moodtards often like to use the van allen belts as the go to that no space travel is possible..
despite it being van allen who actually did the work to get the astronauts into space by calculating the intensity and the amount of time the spacemen would travel through it... though flattards etc, will often cite "but duhhh van allen beltshhhh!!!"
I honestly am getting sick of conspiracies that actually make no sense...flat earth, moon hoaxing, chemtrails etc etc...
the costs to hide such amazing 'features', would be utterly pointless for a start..and thats just to shut up a few million people for a start.
and you really gotta ask yourself when a youtube 'scientist' dmarble...asks why the sky is blue, but space looks black..you know you're in trouble when he has several thousand idiots thinking this guy knows shit.
Wow, nice tone! I was actually referring to radiation (cosmic rays, solar flares etc.) beyond the Van Allen belts (hence my use of the word 'beyond'), but maybe the journey to the moon and back was short enough for them not to have been exposed too much and they possibly had to time the trips for period of low solar flare activity. By asking the question above I certainly wasn't suggesting I think they never went there - in fact all my comments on this thread have strongly said otherwise.
I'd suspect the above issue would be a major factor on a journey to Mars though. I wonder how they'll protect the crew?
You're nearly right. Radiation levels beyond the atmosphere aren't constant; as long as you're not in the path of the radiation stream from an event like a solar flare, getting to and from the moon isn't a problem. NASA used the best information available at the time to avoid that, but in the end they were rolling the dice every time; the odds of getting caught were pretty low, but definitely not zero.
Getting to Mars is a whole other story. The probability of being caught in a radiation burst goes up the longer your journey. Any sensible mission planner would have to assume the ship would be hit, and include a way for the crew (and the ship's systems) to survive it."I did read proposed solution which involved parking the Mars rocket in a moon orbit and create a shield around it using cut and shaped moon Rock, allowing for much thicker shielding than could economically lifted into space from earth alone. | |||
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"I did read proposed solution which involved parking the Mars rocket in a moon orbit and create a shield around it using cut and shaped moon Rock, allowing for much thicker shielding than could economically lifted into space from earth alone. " I'm not sure how that would work. You'd have to either leave the ship in orbit over the moon, which would leave it exposed to solar flares etc while you mined, shaped and installed the rock for the shield, or prefabricate the shield, which would require either maintaining a habitat on the moon or using some hugely advanced robitics to do the work. And all if that would have to be shipped up from Earth in any case. Probably better to just build the shield on Earth, you'd have vastly superior facilities. | |||
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"I did read proposed solution which involved parking the Mars rocket in a moon orbit and create a shield around it using cut and shaped moon Rock, allowing for much thicker shielding than could economically lifted into space from earth alone. I'm not sure how that would work. You'd have to either leave the ship in orbit over the moon, which would leave it exposed to solar flares etc while you mined, shaped and installed the rock for the shield, or prefabricate the shield, which would require either maintaining a habitat on the moon or using some hugely advanced robitics to do the work. And all if that would have to be shipped up from Earth in any case. Probably better to just build the shield on Earth, you'd have vastly superior facilities. " set up a hab unit, digging up the rock for the shield frees up space for the underground part of a moon station, when enough material (many multiple tons if not hundreds) then send up the mars craft for its shielding. | |||
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"The Americans fake pretty much everything. The moon landings totally farcical. Closest they got to stepping foot on the moon is Universal studios. All bullshit Don’t agree at all! Where is that evidence? The Americans were behind the Russians. Russia sent the first man into space. We are all entitled to an opinion. Just answer 1 question. Why has it never happened again since??? Cost. Are you serious lol. Couldn't think of a better response? Considering the so called billions America spends on their space program and you say cost
I have to ask if you're the one who's serious. The amount of money the US Congress was pumping into NASA in the 60s to beat the Soviets to the moon dwarfs the current budget.
Exactly my point and the Russians actually bettered them by putting the first man in space. What would be the trump card. Oh landing on the moon.
Yes i believe there have been expeditions on the moon with technology far greater these days. But still doesn't answer the question why man has never stepped on the moon since the alleged event?
What has been found there rather prevents man from repeating the so called feat?
Umm.. because nowhere near the same amount of money is being spent since the objective was achieved. So.... again....cost.
Also, the Soviets were ahead initially while the Americans squabbled internally over who (Navy, Air force, Civilian etc.) was going to get the funding to develop the technology etc. I think NASA itself was only formed after Sputnik went up and the US started to take things seriously. The Soviets, however, cut corners and took massive risks ( even by space program standards) to grab headline achievements. Once the massive US funding kicked in to achieve JFKs target, there was no way the Soviets could compete.
I still think you are all missing the point. The question asked was if the Americans are fake. Would you trust a country that has assassinated their own president??
I don't personally think I'm missing any point. You originally asked why they haven't been back to the moon. That was answered, although clearly not to your satisfaction.
Not debating the money spent on the supremacy for space and yes you make some valid arguments in support. But nevertheless I will always be of the opinion that it never actually happened. It's been widely debated for years as to whether it actually occurred. Always will be another unanswered question
No worries . It is, of course, your right to believe whatever you want, no matter the evidence/common sense to the contrary. You might like to know that over the years, pretty much all the conspiracy theories have been scientifically and robustly debunked, but I doubt that will sway your opinion
About the only question I still have is why most, if not all, of the Apollo astronauts who went to the moon didn't get cancer, given the lethal radiation they would have been exposed to being beyond the Van Allen belts. I must admit that I've not seen a convincing argument for that.
flattards and moodtards often like to use the van allen belts as the go to that no space travel is possible..
despite it being van allen who actually did the work to get the astronauts into space by calculating the intensity and the amount of time the spacemen would travel through it... though flattards etc, will often cite "but duhhh van allen beltshhhh!!!"
I honestly am getting sick of conspiracies that actually make no sense...flat earth, moon hoaxing, chemtrails etc etc...
the costs to hide such amazing 'features', would be utterly pointless for a start..and thats just to shut up a few million people for a start.
and you really gotta ask yourself when a youtube 'scientist' dmarble...asks why the sky is blue, but space looks black..you know you're in trouble when he has several thousand idiots thinking this guy knows shit.
Wow, nice tone! I was actually referring to radiation (cosmic rays, solar flares etc.) beyond the Van Allen belts (hence my use of the word 'beyond'), but maybe the journey to the moon and back was short enough for them not to have been exposed too much and they possibly had to time the trips for period of low solar flare activity. By asking the question above I certainly wasn't suggesting I think they never went there - in fact all my comments on this thread have strongly said otherwise.
I'd suspect the above issue would be a major factor on a journey to Mars though. I wonder how they'll protect the crew?
You're nearly right. Radiation levels beyond the atmosphere aren't constant; as long as you're not in the path of the radiation stream from an event like a solar flare, getting to and from the moon isn't a problem. NASA used the best information available at the time to avoid that, but in the end they were rolling the dice every time; the odds of getting caught were pretty low, but definitely not zero.
Getting to Mars is a whole other story. The probability of being caught in a radiation burst goes up the longer your journey. Any sensible mission planner would have to assume the ship would be hit, and include a way for the crew (and the ship's systems) to survive it.
That all makes sense. Thanks."Jack Swigert, of bone cancer in 1982 and Alan Shepard of leukemia in 1998. Leukemia is the form of cancer most closely associated with exposure to large amounts of ionizing radiation, though we have no way to know if Shepard's case resulted from the relatively modest radiation to which he was exposed during Apollo 14. https://phys.org/news/2016-12-american-astronauts-dead.html you might see many have died of heart problems.. As for those going to the moon..they received less radiation than those nearer the earths orbit..but who knows it might be too early to tell what may cause their death if it is indeed space related. Apologies at the tone..I just find some things worrying...space deniers etc...are even claiming the challenger disaster astronauts are actually alive...the claims have been substantiated with pictures of brothers/sisters of the unfortunate astronauts. Now thats a bit fucking disgusting. | |||
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"One tiny bit of space rock hitting the LEM in 1969 at the speed it was travelling would have went through the millimetres-thick Aluminium hull like a bullet through a piece of paper. The Moon is peppered with rocks, space-dust and meteoric debris constantly. And those pieces are travelling VERY fast through the Moon's non atmosphere. The FABRIC unpressurised suits the astronauts wore could not operate in the vaccuum of space. Let alone withstand the onslaught of changing heat and cold (from hundreds of degrees in the direct heat of the sun to absolute zero in shadows). They didn't carry enough power to run any kind of air-conditioning, cabin pressure or heating in the LEM. Remember... out of the Sun's direct rays the Moon plummets to -273 Celcius. Immediately. You die immediately... you don't play golf like Alan Shepard of Apollo 14 apparently did. I'm not saying NASA didn't send rockets up into space or land something on the moon. They just didn't send teams of men there 50 years ago. It's that simple. Those are mock-ups filmed on Earth. Hard to admit but watch some of that "footage" it is only believable because that is what we have been told to believe. Regular earth Gravity filmed and slowed down by a factor of a third. Watch again - it is pitiful... they just didn't imagine we'd be able to examine it in detail years later and see the obvious fakery. They couldn't send men to the Moon and bring them back in 1969 and they still cannot. NASA currently admits it cannot get people beyond Low Earth Orbit. The Moon Technology from 1969 - 1972 which enabled the USA to get men to the Moon and back SIX times without losing a life... has been "lost" apparently. That is a good enough admission for me." Yep , that makes sense . So to travel 140,000,000 miles in six months and to not meet a single bit of debris seems highly unlikely too doesn’t it ? | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . " Here’s the thing, due to space having no atmosphere & the laws of physics, specifically momentum, they wouldnt need much fuel at all. The momentum the ship would carry once breaching the atmosphere into outer space would likely be enough, since it faces no resistence or drag of any kind meaning it can consistently be at its terminal velocity. Now, also given that the speed of sound is 767mph & planes can smash through that barrier whilst in earths atmosphere & the speed of a bullet is 1700mph I dont find it improbable (& neither do Nasa) that something in space could have & maintain a terminal velocity in excess of that. Science. | |||
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"One tiny bit of space rock hitting the LEM in 1969 at the speed it was travelling would have went through the millimetres-thick Aluminium hull like a bullet through a piece of paper. The Moon is peppered with rocks, space-dust and meteoric debris constantly. And those pieces are travelling VERY fast through the Moon's non atmosphere. The FABRIC unpressurised suits the astronauts wore could not operate in the vaccuum of space. Let alone withstand the onslaught of changing heat and cold (from hundreds of degrees in the direct heat of the sun to absolute zero in shadows). They didn't carry enough power to run any kind of air-conditioning, cabin pressure or heating in the LEM. Remember... out of the Sun's direct rays the Moon plummets to -273 Celcius. Immediately. You die immediately... you don't play golf like Alan Shepard of Apollo 14 apparently did. I'm not saying NASA didn't send rockets up into space or land something on the moon. They just didn't send teams of men there 50 years ago. It's that simple. Those are mock-ups filmed on Earth. Hard to admit but watch some of that "footage" it is only believable because that is what we have been told to believe. Regular earth Gravity filmed and slowed down by a factor of a third. Watch again - it is pitiful... they just didn't imagine we'd be able to examine it in detail years later and see the obvious fakery. They couldn't send men to the Moon and bring them back in 1969 and they still cannot. NASA currently admits it cannot get people beyond Low Earth Orbit. The Moon Technology from 1969 - 1972 which enabled the USA to get men to the Moon and back SIX times without losing a life... has been "lost" apparently. That is a good enough admission for me." I'm trying to find something, anything, in that screed that isn't wrong. Maybe some of the vowels are ok. | |||
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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t ." Technically it’s been travelling through millions of miles of a vacuum, the only terrain it’s encountered is when it landed on Mars. | |||
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"I’ve been spending way too much time researching all this and more for the last couple of days . From knowing next to nothing at the start , I’m now in a position of still knowing next to nothing . The reality is this . NASA tell us gravity and the pull of zero gravity will propel a ship at over 15,000 mph for over six months at this speed . All we have to do is aim it and allow for the pull of gravity that will happen when it gets close to anything up there . Since it’s about 140 million miles away , it seems odd that it doesn’t come into contact with anything at all . And even odder that radiation doesn’t affect it , but it doesn’t , and after six months of traveling at 15.000mph , it gets to Mars and uses technology from here to slow down sufficiently to land on a planet 140 million miles away . And takes a selfie to prove it’s there . Pretty marvelous isn’t it ? But it makes you wonder how we lost a plane traveling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing doesn’t it ? Just a few hundred miles and 38 minutes from where it took off , in our orbit , on a flight path etc..... yet we can keep tabs on a spacecraft traveling for six months at 15,000 mph for 140,000,000 miles , in an unknown environment that no one has travelled in except NASA . Then land it using remote control from here . I’m still none the wiser , and I’m now beginning to think the moon landing may have been fake too . " Thats a pretty poor take on the basis that as humans we’ve mapped more of the moon than we have the oceans on earth, meaning in essence that if something crashed on the moon we’d have more chance of finding it than something crashing into the sea. | |||
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"One tiny bit of space rock hitting the LEM in 1969 at the speed it was travelling would have went through the millimetres-thick Aluminium hull like a bullet through a piece of paper. The Moon is peppered with rocks, space-dust and meteoric debris constantly. And those pieces are travelling VERY fast through the Moon's non atmosphere. The FABRIC unpressurised suits the astronauts wore could not operate in the vaccuum of space. Let alone withstand the onslaught of changing heat and cold (from hundreds of degrees in the direct heat of the sun to absolute zero in shadows). They didn't carry enough power to run any kind of air-conditioning, cabin pressure or heating in the LEM. Remember... out of the Sun's direct rays the Moon plummets to -273 Celcius. Immediately. You die immediately... you don't play golf like Alan Shepard of Apollo 14 apparently did. I'm not saying NASA didn't send rockets up into space or land something on the moon. They just didn't send teams of men there 50 years ago. It's that simple. Those are mock-ups filmed on Earth. Hard to admit but watch some of that "footage" it is only believable because that is what we have been told to believe. Regular earth Gravity filmed and slowed down by a factor of a third. Watch again - it is pitiful... they just didn't imagine we'd be able to examine it in detail years later and see the obvious fakery. They couldn't send men to the Moon and bring them back in 1969 and they still cannot. NASA currently admits it cannot get people beyond Low Earth Orbit. The Moon Technology from 1969 - 1972 which enabled the USA to get men to the Moon and back SIX times without losing a life... has been "lost" apparently. That is a good enough admission for me. Yep , that makes sense . So to travel 140,000,000 miles in six months and to not meet a single bit of debris seems highly unlikely too doesn’t it ? " People vastly underestimate how big space is, and how little is out there. | |||
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"So apparently NASA has sent a ship to Mars , at speeds faster than a bullet , and it’s got there , landed , and now it’s taking selfies before drilling into the planet and sending us the info it gets . Does anyone else think it’s a complete load of bollocks ? I mean seriously , it’s been travelling for over six months through millions of miles of unchartered terrain , yet there it is . In my best Victor Meldrew voice “ I don’t believe it “ , and I really don’t . So what's your conspiracy theory then? This should be funny. I don’t have a conspiracy theory . So I’m sorry I don’t have anything there to amuse you . I just ( as you point out on your next post ) , don’t really understand it all . As I said , it’s difficult to see the point of it in the first place . We learned nothing from the moon landings apart from how old a few rocks were . If the information we have thus far in Mars is true , it’s minus 83 degrees , has no water , nothing grows there , and once you’re there it’s unlikely you could come back . And what the fuck would you do for over six months on a spaceship ? Look forward to the new life on Mars ? It’s not exactly a pleasant prospect is it ? And remember , we knew all this before this landing , if we believe it happened . When I was a kid at school , David Bowie asked if there was life on Mars . We had no idea , but it was just a fantasy then . We weren’t taught about splitting atoms , creating speed in space , zero gravity and it’s effect on propulsion etc.... or at least if we were taught it , I certainly don’t remember it or understand it . And other than a bit of ridicule from a few swingers on this site , it hasn’t troubled me at all . So I won’t be losing any sleep over my obvious lack of knowledge .
And there, in the last sentence, we have the nub of the problem.
That assumes there’s a problem though "Time was when ignorance and lack of education was a matter of personal shame. Ever since the dreadful Jade Goody, it seems to have become a badge of honour. | |||
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" Time was when ignorance and lack of education was a matter of personal shame. Ever since the dreadful Jade Goody, it seems to have become a badge of honour." Don't agree with much in the forums but ain't that the truth. | |||
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"One tiny bit of space rock hitting the LEM in 1969 at the speed it was travelling would have went through the millimetres-thick Aluminium hull like a bullet through a piece of paper. The Moon is peppered with rocks, space-dust and meteoric debris constantly. And those pieces are travelling VERY fast through the Moon's non atmosphere. The FABRIC unpressurised suits the astronauts wore could not operate in the vaccuum of space. Let alone withstand the onslaught of changing heat and cold (from hundreds of degrees in the direct heat of the sun to absolute zero in shadows). They didn't carry enough power to run any kind of air-conditioning, cabin pressure or heating in the LEM. Remember... out of the Sun's direct rays the Moon plummets to -273 Celcius. Immediately. You die immediately... you don't play golf like Alan Shepard of Apollo 14 apparently did. I'm not saying NASA didn't send rockets up into space or land something on the moon. They just didn't send teams of men there 50 years ago. It's that simple. Those are mock-ups filmed on Earth. Hard to admit but watch some of that "footage" it is only believable because that is what we have been told to believe. Regular earth Gravity filmed and slowed down by a factor of a third. Watch again - it is pitiful... they just didn't imagine we'd be able to examine it in detail years later and see the obvious fakery. They couldn't send men to the Moon and bring them back in 1969 and they still cannot. NASA currently admits it cannot get people beyond Low Earth Orbit. The Moon Technology from 1969 - 1972 which enabled the USA to get men to the Moon and back SIX times without losing a life... has been "lost" apparently. That is a good enough admission for me. Yep , that makes sense . So to travel 140,000,000 miles in six months and to not meet a single bit of debris seems highly unlikely too doesn’t it ? People vastly underestimate how big space is, and how little is out there." Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space. Douglas Adams, | |||
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"I didn’t say I didn’t know how they did it . I simply asked if anyone else thought it was not for real . And I don’t understand how a solid object like the ship they’ve sent can move at speeds exceeding a bullet for over six months . The fuel required for such a feat would be overwhelming . Here’s the thing, due to space having no atmosphere & the laws of physics, specifically momentum, they wouldnt need much fuel at all. The momentum the ship would carry once breaching the atmosphere into outer space would likely be enough, since it faces no resistence or drag of any kind meaning it can consistently be at its terminal velocity. Now, also given that the speed of sound is 767mph & planes can smash through that barrier whilst in earths atmosphere & the speed of a bullet is 1700mph I dont find it improbable (& neither do Nasa) that something in space could have & maintain a terminal velocity in excess of that. Science." I just read that NASA reckon they will soon be able to get there in three days ! Something called DEEP , worth a read . No engines , photonics propulsion . 60,000km per SECOND they reckon . So the Millenium Falcon in Star Wars will be in a spot of bother if we decide to challenge it to a race won’t it ? | |||
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