FabSwingers.com forum: Why are Europeans always the heroes?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .

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By *ensuallover1000Man
over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

Overt EU propaganda

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

Various reasons.

Because Tom Cruise or Daniel Day or the Tarzan guy are/were popular actors who can sell a film/ bring in an audience/ bring in the dollars.

Because these films were made at a time when thinking outside the box and getting someone "authentic" wasn't even a consideration.

And because at the end of the day Hollywood is still run by white guys to make money from people who (by and large and as box office dollar attests) still prefer films about white guys.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Is Tom Cruise European?

I definitely think he would have made a shit James Bond anyway.

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By *ensuallover1000Man
over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

"Various reasons.

Because Tom Cruise or Daniel Day or the Tarzan guy are/were popular actors who can sell a film/ bring in an audience/ bring in the dollars.

Because these films were made at a time when thinking outside the box and getting someone "authentic" wasn't even a consideration.

And because at the end of the day Hollywood is still run by white guys to make money from people who (by and large and as box office dollar attests) still prefer films about white guys.

Amen sister - Hollywood has a long and dubious history of choosing not who may be best at portraying a given leading role, but rather which actor is presently most popular and subsequently bankable.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Basically it's always the Ruskies that are made out to be the bad guys with their henchmen. All hell breaks loose, then good guy runs off with fit babe.

#jamesbondworld

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Basically it's always the Ruskies that are made out to be the bad guys with their henchmen. All hell breaks loose, then good guy runs off with fit babe.

#jamesbondworld"

Didn't see casino royale then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Black panther did pretty well

Although I'm fairly bored of the marvel films, tend to like ambiguous ones if I'm honest, don't see many thought provoking ones though

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Basically it's always the Ruskies that are made out to be the bad guys with their henchmen. All hell breaks loose, then good guy runs off with fit babe.

#jamesbondworld"

Honestly it’s always the Muslim boogie man that’s the villain now a days....

It’s becoming so predictable.... I’ve stop watching most action movies...

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Basically it's always the Ruskies that are made out to be the bad guys with their henchmen. All hell breaks loose, then good guy runs off with fit babe.

#jamesbondworld

Honestly it’s always the Muslim boogie man that’s the villain now a days....

It’s becoming so predictable.... I’ve stop watching most action movies..."

It matters little about their religious beliefs, but the main thing is if they can do a convincing foreign accent, even I can walk like an Egyptian ffs

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

Give "The Raid" or "Train to Busan" a watch, not a single European hero in sight, but plenty of heroics

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

Because the books they are based on are aimed at western audiences and they think we need a western hero to identity with.

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

...and Jesus is generally depicted as a European

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

The last samurai was loosely based on a true story, that's why he was a European...

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

"...and Jesus is generally depicted as a European"

Swedish Jesus!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Is it the same in China, Argentina or Nigeria? If you watch a film from those countries, do they "always have" a European hero?

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."

Tom Cruise wasn't the last samurai though. It was the story of a European who met the Last Samurai, Katsumoto and went on to study with him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is Spiderman from Europe?

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By *hips n FursMan
over a year ago

Huddersfield

"Is it the same in China, Argentina or Nigeria? If you watch a film from those countries, do they "always have" a European hero?"

Now now Clem....that makes too much sense

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Is it the same in China, Argentina or Nigeria? If you watch a film from those countries, do they "always have" a European hero?

Now now Clem....that makes too much sense

I fear you might be right. What a load of Bollywoods...

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Is Spiderman from Europe?"

Don't be silly, he comes from the planet called Loft

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By *nvercoupleCouple
over a year ago

Inverness

"...and Jesus is generally depicted as a European

Swedish Jesus!"

No it was Irish Jesus. He said one little thing as a joke when d*unk and a whole religion sprouted up from it.

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By *nvercoupleCouple
over a year ago

Inverness

Jesus christ you can't say d*unk on the forums?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."
Tom Cruise is American is he not?

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By *agermeisterMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."

La Longe Carabine or Hawkeye as you call him wasn't a Mohican

The Tarzan books were a reaction to the Victorian notion that 'modern' industrial man was physically (and hence morally) weak and a long way from the physical prowess ideal embodied in the Ancient Greeks. The beginning of the modern Olympic Movement was another example of this fear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .Tom Cruise is American is he not? "

I think the OP ment White European heritage

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Safe, formulaic pap that pleases Americans and others but especially doesn't shas much risk for film financing.

And the racist worldview shown by Trump is alive in many still

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"Jesus christ you can't say d*unk on the forums? "

You've got to be pissed if you need to say slightly inebriated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Safe, formulaic pap that pleases Americans and others but especially doesn't shas much risk for film financing.

And the racist worldview shown by Trump is alive in many still"

Or ya know we just like to envision ourselves as the hero...

Hollywood is an industry with a majority white european audiance of course the majority or characters or going to embody that...

As a poster above said the bollywood amd Nigerian film industries do not have very many white faces

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Is it the same in China, Argentina or Nigeria? If you watch a film from those countries, do they "always have" a European hero?"

My dear Clem ...... Argentinaian films will have European heroes my friend....

Remember this is the country most of the Nazi’s went to after WW2... so they have a large population of people derived from German and Italian heritage....

I’m sorry I can’t comment about films from Nigeria or China..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Is it the same in China, Argentina or Nigeria? If you watch a film from those countries, do they "always have" a European hero?

My dear Clem ...... Argentinaian films will have European heroes my friend....

Remember this is the country most of the Nazi’s went to after WW2... so they have a large population of people derived from German and Italian heritage....

I’m sorry I can’t comment about films from Nigeria or China.. "

So do you think there should be more Europeans in Bollywood films?

Do you think the Chinese should stop making films with Chinese people in them as hero's? Or do you just have a chip on your shoulder about Europeans in European films?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Tom Cruise isn't fecking European. Don't try and pass him off as one of ours. He was born in the city the OP is in!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's almost like Hollywood just wants to make money by casting white dudes in lead roles - haven't they heard of political correctness? James Bond should be Jane Bond and be portrayed by a one-legged black lesbian in a wheelchair. That'll get bums on seats

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"It's almost like Hollywood just wants to make money by casting white dudes in lead roles - haven't they heard of political correctness? James Bond should be Jane Bond and be portrayed by a one-legged black lesbian in a wheelchair. That'll get bums on seats

It worked well when they did it for Ghostbusters. What a blockbuster smash that film was.

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By *ensuallover1000Man
over a year ago

Somewhere In The Ether…

Talking of Bollywood; They’re producing some awesome action stars at the moment.

Check out Tiger Shroff and Vidyut Jamwal (loads of clips of these guys in action on YouTube) - both amazing stars

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."

Hollywood bias, basically.

Americans, rather than Europeans, are usually the heroes.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .

Hollywood bias, basically.

Americans, rather than Europeans, are usually the heroes. "

U571

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."

How long has Tom Cruise been European?

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By *uiet LightMan
over a year ago

Brighton

"Give "The Raid" or "Train to Busan" a watch, not a single European hero in sight, but plenty of heroics

Train To Busan, a bit off the wall in placed, but some great action set pieces

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By *hedark_knightMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I thought Americans were always the heroes

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .

Hollywood bias, basically.

Americans, rather than Europeans, are usually the heroes.

U571

And Saving Private Ryan, along with virtually every other WW2 film ever made.

Apparently the Americans won the war single handedly.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I guess it's because most Hollywood film producers/ directors/ writers are white Christian European.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like Kevin Costner in Robin Hood or Mel Gibson in Braveheart, those famous Europeans ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .

Hollywood bias, basically.

Americans, rather than Europeans, are usually the heroes.

U571

And Saving Private Ryan, along with virtually every other WW2 film ever made.

Apparently the Americans won the war single handedly.

In fairness they played a significant role!!

Guess they make the film's to appeal to the market that's most likely to make them money regardless of accuracy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .Tom Cruise is American is he not?

I think the OP ment White European heritage

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ahhhh the western culture

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions .

Hollywood bias, basically.

Americans, rather than Europeans, are usually the heroes.

U571

And Saving Private Ryan, along with virtually every other WW2 film ever made.

Apparently the Americans won the war single handedly.

In fairness they played a significant role!!

Guess they make the film's to appeal to the market that's most likely to make them money regardless of accuracy."

Significant meaning a 70th minute substitute that comes on and scores a penalty

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By *imbo59seMan
over a year ago

North Norfolk area

"I just finished watching the last Samurai and I just realized Tom Cruise was the last samurai...

Then I realized Hawkeye was the last of the Mohicans and Tarzan was the biggest hero in Africa.....

Can anyone Enlighten me on this phenomenon?

I think I know the answer I would just like people’s opinions ."

The last of the Mohicans was actually Uncas, after the death of Chingachgook who, I believe, was his son, hence the last of the Mohicans !

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