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By *dam and slut OP   Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

So you have spent ages researching the people who message you, reading all their messages of Hi how are you, wot u into then, sorting out all the wannabes, the plain fruit cakes, the ones who haven't read your profile fully and bingo you get messages from one's who are exactly the type you believe you would like to meet

Now the fun starts, here's my mobile number, can we have more pictures, what are her limits, boundaries, does she take anal ( for some reason it's always anal ), is she ok for bondage, you are interested so don't mind a little ping pong of messages.

Where when why who what how etc etc etc

They ask may I speak with her, just to confirm she is real/willing and you agree, pass the phone a little convo starts, Not a long convo because you don't want to spoil the excitement, everyone is happy phone passed back to me

Ok..I ask when can you come round to meet...ummmm ( the damn pause ) well let me look in my diary .. I can't make this week, or the next

It's gone from super excited, she's damn hot to well I can't make next week or the week after..I wouldn't mind if it was just one person writing to me for a meet but it's 3...all super excited blah blah blah..

So..from now on I think I should start a PayPal account..a booking fee of sorts..then they get it back after an actual successful meet.

That should sort out the time wasters..

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate

I wouldn't call someone a timewaster just because they can't meet in the next week or two. Just get them to tell you when they can meet.

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By *oney to the beeWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

Some people are busy others just talkers there is little you can do about that apart from telling them if they are not serious or can't make time for you than its a thanks for your time and bye.

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By *dam and slut OP   Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Some people are busy others just talkers there is little you can do about that apart from telling them if they are not serious or can't make time for you than its a thanks for your time and bye. "

Very true, I think I am more annoyed at the amount of effort I and others put in researching the mail I or we get from our profile or advertised meet request.

Trying to speed read the many messages, deleting the ones that obviously don't match needs, responding to the ones that do... phone calls, the who what where when how etc..They give you an impression they are super excited to meet you fairly quickly...then they are not available.

Hence my comment...the idea of booking fee...maybe fab could organise it.

You see someone you like, make an arrangement to meet, pay a small fee. If you don't turn up or change your mind. You lose your fee..simples

Stops the time wasters

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Fab will never organise a "booking fee". Its against site rules to ask for money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fab will never organise a "booking fee". Its against site rules to ask for money."

I'm fairly sure it would be against the law as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always take a “non refundable” booking fee...

... the longer the meet the higher the fee

It works

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I generally get an outline expectation of meet time-frames early on, so that it ensures we're all fairly well matched. A lot of people expect very rapid meets - NOW - or there are people who enjoy the discussion of meets and potentially have limited interest in actually meeting. Once you get the likely timing set, you can then organise things accordingly, including discussions at approptiate points beforehand to finalise the details.

People just have different expectations and personal availabilities, so assuming others are time-wasters, because you're not matched in these ways, isn't helping you.

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

So ask them to come back to you when they are free and leave it at that. You sound like you have done all the checks so obviously believe they are genuine.

If discussing meets we always establish early on what weekend we are looking at.

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By *umptuous DuoCouple
over a year ago

Teesside

We have a hard time organising meets due to work commitments, the male half frequently gets calls from work to jump on a flight the next day and then be away for weeks on end, then when you contact the prospective meet and tell them you now can’t make it they think you are just time wasters and are just messing people around, however luckily for us we have verifications which we like to think shows we are genuine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like a lot of effort for little return. I don't ever do any kind of sex chat before a social. I sort a social within 2 weeks of first message then go from there.

If they aren't happy with that we're just not compatible so no point me wasting their time, they can meet someone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If your messages are as long as your opening thread have they reached the end yet

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I don't think a booking fee approach would work, nor would Fab ever endorse it, and in fact if you tried to do it for yourselves, you'd potentially be in breach of site rules and liable for a ban.

The thing is you're looking for a very specific dynamic of which, as I'm sure you're aware, there are a lot of ill informed participants out there - a lot of whom may be very good at talking the talk, but when it comes to walking the walk don't have what it takes and so back out.

That said not being free within the space of a couple of weeks isn't always possible for some, especially within your target age ranges where they're likely to have family responsibilities etc - so maybe you need to change your thinking and expectations around that - as others have suggested rather than you setting the dates, ask when they'd be free and come to a mutually agreeable date/time

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By *etLikeMan
over a year ago

most fundamental aspects


"If your messages are as long as your opening thread have they reached the end yet "

I think it’s more likely that there is a correlation between length of messages and likelihood of meeting. I much prefer to build up a picture of prospective meets before setting a date. I think the OP seems the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Booking dot com.

I prefer things to be less overtly transactional

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im in

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By *dam and slut OP   Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

JuxtapositionING response..


"I don't think a booking fee approach would work, nor would Fab ever endorse it, and in fact if you tried to do it for yourselves, you'd potentially be in breach of site rules and liable for a ban.

Reply

Agree with a perhaps..The idea of a booking system would deter those who just playbgames at the expense of genuine people who, book baby sites, book cabs, book hotel rooms, turn up at clubs waiting for non appearing meets...If it comes to fees, then perhaps fab could build that into there platform much like silver and gold members have that option..

Juxtaposition

The thing is you're looking for a very specific dynamic of which, as I'm sure you're aware, there are a lot of ill informed participants out there - a lot of whom may be very good at talking the talk, but when it comes to walking the walk don't have what it takes and so back out.

Reply

The ill informed you mention of have already been exposed in the research, the ping pong memos, the telephone calls, the who what why when where and how conversation to establish the genuinely experience, the dynamics of people. Of course there are this who have read books, know the language, but by asking deeper questions it soon becomes apparent who is not experienced, a wannabe.

Juxtaposition

That said not being free within the space of a couple of weeks isn't always possible for some, especially within your target age ranges where they're likely to have family responsibilities etc - so maybe you need to change your thinking and expectations around that - as others have suggested rather than you setting the dates, ask when they'd be free and come to a mutually agreeable date/time "

Reply..

As mentioned in my earlier reply and by another person..The event has been posted, dated area scene etc in the meeting/event listing...Eg.

date 30/11/18..post code, type of play/scene..club meet/gangbang/your place/our place/dogging etc etc..that's established, so if someone replies to the advert they have already know what's on offer

Then they write to you to see if they meet your needs requirements. .emails are exchanged..questions asked..The ping pong..that leads to phone calls..and as mentioned the who when why how's why where are established..and agreed..

The person who already said yes to the meet presses a confirmation button on fab...If that person then fails to turn up of change their mind, wishes to pull out..It's highlighted..and fab make the money..

That fee system much like the silver, gold membership process..

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"So you have spent ages researching the people who message you, reading all their messages of Hi how are you, wot u into then, sorting out all the wannabes, the plain fruit cakes, the ones who haven't read your profile fully and bingo you get messages from one's who are exactly the type you believe you would like to meet

Now the fun starts, here's my mobile number, can we have more pictures, what are her limits, boundaries, does she take anal ( for some reason it's always anal ), is she ok for bondage, you are interested so don't mind a little ping pong of messages.

Where when why who what how etc etc etc

They ask may I speak with her, just to confirm she is real/willing and you agree, pass the phone a little convo starts, Not a long convo because you don't want to spoil the excitement, everyone is happy phone passed back to me

Ok..I ask when can you come round to meet...ummmm ( the damn pause ) well let me look in my diary .. I can't make this week, or the next

It's gone from super excited, she's damn hot to well I can't make next week or the week after..I wouldn't mind if it was just one person writing to me for a meet but it's 3...all super excited blah blah blah..

So..from now on I think I should start a PayPal account..a booking fee of sorts..then they get it back after an actual successful meet.

That should sort out the time wasters..

"

So they are coming to you? Would you be available tomorrow of you were going to theirs?

S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"JuxtapositionING response..

I don't think a booking fee approach would work, nor would Fab ever endorse it, and in fact if you tried to do it for yourselves, you'd potentially be in breach of site rules and liable for a ban.

Reply

Agree with a perhaps..The idea of a booking system would deter those who just playbgames at the expense of genuine people who, book baby sites, book cabs, book hotel rooms, turn up at clubs waiting for non appearing meets...If it comes to fees, then perhaps fab could build that into there platform much like silver and gold members have that option..

Juxtaposition

The thing is you're looking for a very specific dynamic of which, as I'm sure you're aware, there are a lot of ill informed participants out there - a lot of whom may be very good at talking the talk, but when it comes to walking the walk don't have what it takes and so back out.

Reply

The ill informed you mention of have already been exposed in the research, the ping pong memos, the telephone calls, the who what why when where and how conversation to establish the genuinely experience, the dynamics of people. Of course there are this who have read books, know the language, but by asking deeper questions it soon becomes apparent who is not experienced, a wannabe.

Juxtaposition

That said not being free within the space of a couple of weeks isn't always possible for some, especially within your target age ranges where they're likely to have family responsibilities etc - so maybe you need to change your thinking and expectations around that - as others have suggested rather than you setting the dates, ask when they'd be free and come to a mutually agreeable date/time

Reply..

As mentioned in my earlier reply and by another person..The event has been posted, dated area scene etc in the meeting/event listing...Eg.

date 30/11/18..post code, type of play/scene..club meet/gangbang/your place/our place/dogging etc etc..that's established, so if someone replies to the advert they have already know what's on offer

Then they write to you to see if they meet your needs requirements. .emails are exchanged..questions asked..The ping pong..that leads to phone calls..and as mentioned the who when why how's why where are established..and agreed..

The person who already said yes to the meet presses a confirmation button on fab...If that person then fails to turn up of change their mind, wishes to pull out..It's highlighted..and fab make the money..

That fee system much like the silver, gold membership process..

"

Wow so if people change their mind they get charged?! Force them into fucking when they don't want to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you have spent ages researching the people who message you, reading all their messages of Hi how are you, wot u into then, sorting out all the wannabes, the plain fruit cakes, the ones who haven't read your profile fully and bingo you get messages from one's who are exactly the type you believe you would like to meet

Now the fun starts, here's my mobile number, can we have more pictures, what are her limits, boundaries, does she take anal ( for some reason it's always anal ), is she ok for bondage, you are interested so don't mind a little ping pong of messages.

Where when why who what how etc etc etc

They ask may I speak with her, just to confirm she is real/willing and you agree, pass the phone a little convo starts, Not a long convo because you don't want to spoil the excitement, everyone is happy phone passed back to me

Ok..I ask when can you come round to meet...ummmm ( the damn pause ) well let me look in my diary .. I can't make this week, or the next

It's gone from super excited, she's damn hot to well I can't make next week or the week after..I wouldn't mind if it was just one person writing to me for a meet but it's 3...all super excited blah blah blah..

So..from now on I think I should start a PayPal account..a booking fee of sorts..then they get it back after an actual successful meet.

That should sort out the time wasters..

"

If you want to meet right now, there and then, maybe it’s best you put that in your opening message so the women who can’t meet at the drop of a hat don’t waste your time or theirs.

I’ve been called a “time waster” on another site because I told him I had to wait to get my shift times before arranging. Some of us have commitments that come before sex. You just never know.

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By *ookworm258Man
over a year ago

Wythenshawe

Supposing OP you had an issue, e.g. child was taken ill. Does this mean that the person you were going to meet has to pay the "fee" or would you as meet is not occuring

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This booking fee thing is a recipe for disaster.

Just accept the fact we all will get our time wasted atleast once, our diaries won’t always align, some get cold feet, some have commitments, last minute issue may arise.

Just move onto the next one. If you haven’t wasted money for a hotel etc, then the only issue is annoyance.

It’s only sex at the end of the day, there will always be someone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I must be a time waster because meeting people on here is my least priority in life.

Family, work and social commitments along side people who I see regular will always be my priority so it can often be weeks or months before I can even do a social as some on my friends list will confirm. That's life. If you want a booking fee I suggest you go to a site where you charge for your time. Because I for one wouldn't be happy on any site that does that

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By *dam and slut OP   Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be a time waster because meeting people on here is my least priority in life.

Family, work and social commitments along side people who I see regular will always be my priority so it can often be weeks or months before I can even do a social as some on my friends list will confirm. That's life. If you want a booking fee I suggest you go to a site where you charge for your time. Because I for one wouldn't be happy on any site that does that

yep you must be...because you would have read, the advert, gone through the process, decided the who what why when's were not for you and already decided you couldn't make it...be of accepting the meet..so why reply to this post wouldn't you..so why bother replying with such a negative troll like mindset

Adsm"

If anyone looks like a troll here it’s you.

Do you honestly think Fab would ever do a booking fee feature? Ridiculous.

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By *dam and slut OP   Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Some good replies..but hey..It was an idea to help people make more responsible decisions.

Of course things do happen in peoples lives that force them to change plans, here's the thing, when you hit that booking of an airline ticket, that train ticket that cinema ticket, that theatre ticket and you cannot attend how many times did you get a refund..even a full refund..that's it, it was only an idea.

Enjoy your evening...Warmest

Adam

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some good replies..but hey..It was an idea to help people make more responsible decisions.

Of course things do happen in peoples lives that force them to change plans, here's the thing, when you hit that booking of an airline ticket, that train ticket that cinema ticket, that theatre ticket and you cannot attend how many times did you get a refund..even a full refund..that's it, it was only an idea.

Enjoy your evening...Warmest

Adam"

That's a fair point. It would help if a hotel was booked and they cancelled. Unless you meant Fab got the money in which case it wouldn't help.

Can re-sell tickets to concerts if you can't make it. Ooh now there's an idea. re-selling meets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some good replies..but hey..It was an idea to help people make more responsible decisions.

Of course things do happen in peoples lives that force them to change plans, here's the thing, when you hit that booking of an airline ticket, that train ticket that cinema ticket, that theatre ticket and you cannot attend how many times did you get a refund..even a full refund..that's it, it was only an idea.

Enjoy your evening...Warmest

Adam

That's a fair point. It would help if a hotel was booked and they cancelled. Unless you meant Fab got the money in which case it wouldn't help.

Can re-sell tickets to concerts if you can't make it. Ooh now there's an idea. re-selling meets. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be a time waster because meeting people on here is my least priority in life.

Family, work and social commitments along side people who I see regular will always be my priority so it can often be weeks or months before I can even do a social as some on my friends list will confirm. That's life. If you want a booking fee I suggest you go to a site where you charge for your time. Because I for one wouldn't be happy on any site that does that

yep you must be...because you would have read, the advert, gone through the process, decided the who what why when's were not for you and already decided you couldn't make it...be of accepting the meet..so why reply to this post wouldn't you..so why bother replying with such a negative troll like mindset

Adsm

If anyone looks like a troll here it’s you.

Do you honestly think Fab would ever do a booking fee feature? Ridiculous."

Ooh I've never been called a troll before . And you removed the post why is that OP? I can assure you I'm not a troll but its a damn right ridiculous idea that would put a lot of decent people off fab. And it does happen. One previous meet of mine it took us about a year to finally hook up due to stuff in each of our lives. It's not instashag of that's what your after I suggest you do a meet now rather than all the phone call etc etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must be a time waster because meeting people on here is my least priority in life.

Family, work and social commitments along side people who I see regular will always be my priority so it can often be weeks or months before I can even do a social as some on my friends list will confirm. That's life. If you want a booking fee I suggest you go to a site where you charge for your time. Because I for one wouldn't be happy on any site that does that

yep you must be...because you would have read, the advert, gone through the process, decided the who what why when's were not for you and already decided you couldn't make it...be of accepting the meet..so why reply to this post wouldn't you..so why bother replying with such a negative troll like mindset

Adsm

If anyone looks like a troll here it’s you.

Do you honestly think Fab would ever do a booking fee feature? Ridiculous.

Ooh I've never been called a troll before . And you removed the post why is that OP? I can assure you I'm not a troll but its a damn right ridiculous idea that would put a lot of decent people off fab. And it does happen. One previous meet of mine it took us about a year to finally hook up due to stuff in each of our lives. It's not instashag of that's what your after I suggest you do a meet now rather than all the phone call etc etc "

and im still waiting waaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some good replies..but hey..It was an idea to help people make more responsible decisions.

Of course things do happen in peoples lives that force them to change plans, here's the thing, when you hit that booking of an airline ticket, that train ticket that cinema ticket, that theatre ticket and you cannot attend how many times did you get a refund..even a full refund..that's it, it was only an idea.

Enjoy your evening...Warmest

Adam

That's a fair point. It would help if a hotel was booked and they cancelled. Unless you meant Fab got the money in which case it wouldn't help.

Can re-sell tickets to concerts if you can't make it. Ooh now there's an idea. re-selling meets. "

Thats almost a bit kinky. You've just been bought on ebay and your re booked fate is sealed. Who will it be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I just skip the middle man and sell myself?

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