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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Natural...

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

It definitely goes in cycles, but we are pushing the bike harder with our carbon emissions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Natural..."

Do you have some evidence for that theory?

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By *callycatMan
over a year ago

Mid Wales

Climate change...natural

Current speed of climate change...man made

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Natural..."
evolution

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We're not helping!..and the sheer greed of the human race will ensure our own self destruction!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We're not helping!..and the sheer greed of the human race will ensure our own self destruction! "
but that is evolution

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Natural...

Do you have some evidence for that theory?"

All the previous ice ages..

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london

A natural event that has been taking place for a Millenia, unfortunately helped along by mass deforestation and carbon emissions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We're not helping!..and the sheer greed of the human race will ensure our own self destruction! but that is evolution "
....yes evolution,but to the point where we just let the weak fend for themselves as we walk on by?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Natural..."

Liar.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"We're not helping!..and the sheer greed of the human race will ensure our own self destruction! but that is evolution ....yes evolution,but to the point where we just let the weak fend for themselves as we walk on by?"

And we help the weak ..

They grow strong..

We become the weak..

They walk on bye..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We're not helping!..and the sheer greed of the human race will ensure our own self destruction! but that is evolution ....yes evolution,but to the point where we just let the weak fend for themselves as we walk on by?

And we help the weak ..

They grow strong..

We become the weak..

They walk on bye.. "

Give me your tired and huddled masses and I'll piss on them...Great philosophy you've got their tom..

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


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Give me your tired and huddled masses and I'll piss on them...Great philosophy you've got their tom.. "

I have helped the weak..

Invited one into my home one Christmas and got repaid ..

He shagged my ex wife...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the current state of climate change is man made but don't worry, it is probably far too late to stop it so just live for the moment.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

As I said earlier, until we stop digging up carbon and burning it, which a lot of the "First World" countries have been doing for many years, then it will come back to haunt us. We now have the technology to provide alternative power for every person on the planet, but we choose to put our resources elsewhere. It's a sad indictment of modern humanity

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london

Mass deforestation to provide more grounds for breading livestock to be slaughtered and sold For human consumption

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london

The human races greed will be its own down fall

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Mass deforestation to provide more grounds for breading livestock to be slaughtered and sold For human consumption "

Actually soybeans are far worse than meat. We don't cut down the Amazon because it's a good place to raise cows.

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By *oney to the beeWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

Bit of both but people have agendas and love to push their own point on people so you never get the real truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wish it would hurry up and get here, freezing our arses off most of the year.

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place


"Mass deforestation to provide more grounds for breading livestock to be slaughtered and sold For human consumption

Actually soybeans are far worse than meat. We don't cut down the Amazon because it's a good place to raise cows. "

Ummm I think you’ll find that does happen

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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The natural process has been speeded up by mankind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can’t add a day every 4 years to our calendar and not have it eventually effect the seasons?

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london

Live stock or soybeans, plants and trees convert sunlight into energy, absorb carbon dioxide and give of oxygen, no plant life, no human life,

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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Check out the Venus Project

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Check out the Venus Project "

Why? Is there nothing on the comedy channel at the moment

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"Check out the Venus Project

Why? Is there nothing on the comedy channel at the moment "

No

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london

Will do, thanks

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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"Will do, thanks"

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Natural..."

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense.....

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Natural...

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense..... "

No. Because this is not the first global warming..dont let them brainwash you..

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Wish it would hurry up and get here, freezing our arses off most of the year."

So you want The Beast From The East Pt II

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"Natural...

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense.....

No. Because this is not the first global warming..dont let them brainwash you.. "

We're speeding it up though mate.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Natural...

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense.....

No. Because this is not the first global warming..dont let them brainwash you..

We're speeding it up though mate. "

Maybe... And we are like any other species on earth ..

Time limited

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Natural...

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense.....

No. Because this is not the first global warming..dont let them brainwash you..

We're speeding it up though mate.

Maybe... And we are like any other species on earth ..

Time limited "

No! We are not like any other species on Earth, we have control, at the moment, and we as humanity should be doing our best to preserve it for future generations of not only us, but all wildlife as a whole.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I did it "for the bants.."

#sorrynotsorry

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


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No! We are not like any other species on Earth, we have control, at the moment, and we as humanity should be doing our best to preserve it for future generations of not only us, but all wildlife as a whole."

Or shore up and preserve what we need. Essential animals like beef and pork.. some fish..and prawn. I like prawn

Lions and tigers are luxury items and only feed the tourist trade.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Natural...

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense.....

No. Because this is not the first global warming..dont let them brainwash you..

We're speeding it up though mate.

Maybe... And we are like any other species on earth ..

Time limited

No! We are not like any other species on Earth, we have control, at the moment, and we as humanity should be doing our best to preserve it for future generations of not only us, but all wildlife as a whole."

You can guarantee rhinos and tigers and other mega fauna will only be seen stuffed in museums by the end of the Century and future generations will think we were proper cunts to let them slip into extinction when we had a choice.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"I did it "for the farts.."

#sorrynotsorry"

I hope you pulled the cover over her head afterwards

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By *aenMan
over a year ago

Here and There


"Natural...

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense..... "

Self licking lollipop. Group think reviewing themselves.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

DNA will mean they can resurrect an extinct rhino..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"I did it "for the farts.."

#sorrynotsorry

I hope you pulled the cover over her head afterwards "

Tee hee!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"DNA will mean they can resurrect an extinct rhino.."

Like in Jurassic park..

I see so let's not get overly concerned about killing them all because if anyone wants one again we will grow one for them..

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


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No! We are not like any other species on Earth, we have control, at the moment, and we as humanity should be doing our best to preserve it for future generations of not only us, but all wildlife as a whole.

Or shore up and preserve what we need. Essential animals like beef and pork.. some fish..and prawn. I like prawn

Lions and tigers are luxury items and only feed the tourist trade. "

Yes, every person needs to eat purely to survive, but why are we sending rockets into outer space to survey things when people here on our own planet are dying of starvation every day....

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


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No! We are not like any other species on Earth, we have control, at the moment, and we as humanity should be doing our best to preserve it for future generations of not only us, but all wildlife as a whole.

Or shore up and preserve what we need. Essential animals like beef and pork.. some fish..and prawn. I like prawn

Lions and tigers are luxury items and only feed the tourist trade.

Yes, every person needs to eat purely to survive, but why are we sending rockets into outer space to survey things when people here on our own planet are dying of starvation every day...."

Who is this 'we' you speak of? Starvation is hardly a prevalent concern in the UK today! Do give me the bs about food banks either.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Food banks

Build them and they will come

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"We" is humankind in general, we seem to have done our best to destroy what is available to us rather than safeguard it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Milankovitch Cycle.

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


""We" is humankind in general, we seem to have done our best to destroy what is available to us rather than safeguard it. "
Read some Noam Chomsky mate ....I agree with you btw

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


""We" is humankind in general, we seem to have done our best to destroy what is available to us rather than safeguard it. "

Humankind?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's predominantly due to human influence, as the evidence clearly shows. Natural cycles happen but the current phase isn't one of them.

We are so beyond the point when this was settled that it's tragic that it's being asked by any responsible politicians

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


""We" is humankind in general, we seem to have done our best to destroy what is available to us rather than safeguard it.

Humankind?"

Get yer Missus to buy you a Dictionary for Christmas

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


""We" is humankind in general, we seem to have done our best to destroy what is available to us rather than safeguard it.

Humankind?

Get yer Missus to buy you a Dictionary for Christmas "

Just enjoy what we have now...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""We" is humankind in general, we seem to have done our best to destroy what is available to us rather than safeguard it.

Humankind?

Get yer Missus to buy you a Dictionary for Christmas

Just enjoy what we have now...

"

Here today gone tommorow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Live stock or soybeans, plants and trees convert sunlight into energy, absorb carbon dioxide and give of oxygen, no plant life, no human life, "

Most of Earth's oxygen comes from tiny ocean plants called phytoplankton.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


""We" is humankind in general, we seem to have done our best to destroy what is available to us rather than safeguard it.

Humankind?

Get yer Missus to buy you a Dictionary for Christmas

Just enjoy what we have now...

Here today gone tommorow. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

liverpool wavertree picton clock


"Live stock or soybeans, plants and trees convert sunlight into energy, absorb carbon dioxide and give of oxygen, no plant life, no human life,

Most of Earth's oxygen comes from tiny ocean plants called phytoplankton."

Seen a thing today on what would the earth be like now if we never decimated the whale population ....check it out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We're not helping!..and the sheer greed of the human race will ensure our own self destruction! but that is evolution ....yes evolution,but to the point where we just let the weak fend for themselves as we walk on by?"
evolution is about the life process, natural disasters and phenomena, over populating, over cultivating etc evolution will be man contributes little to it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"DNA will mean they can resurrect an extinct rhino.."

Doesn't that statement contradict your suggestion that peer reviewed science is wrong?

Well done on agreeing scientists were right about man-made accelerated climate change.

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

bolton


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No! We are not like any other species on Earth, we have control, at the moment, and we as humanity should be doing our best to preserve it for future generations of not only us, but all wildlife as a whole.

Or shore up and preserve what we need. Essential animals like beef and pork.. some fish..and prawn. I like prawn

Lions and tigers are luxury items and only feed the tourist trade. "

This , ladies and gentleman is a proud example of the education system, well done Hahahaha

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"

No! We are not like any other species on Earth, we have control, at the moment, and we as humanity should be doing our best to preserve it for future generations of not only us, but all wildlife as a whole.

Or shore up and preserve what we need. Essential animals like beef and pork.. some fish..and prawn. I like prawn

Lions and tigers are luxury items and only feed the tourist trade.

This , ladies and gentleman is a proud example of the education system, well done Hahahaha "

Education has taught us to question..

.

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

bolton


"

No! We are not like any other species on Earth, we have control, at the moment, and we as humanity should be doing our best to preserve it for future generations of not only us, but all wildlife as a whole.

Or shore up and preserve what we need. Essential animals like beef and pork.. some fish..and prawn. I like prawn

Lions and tigers are luxury items and only feed the tourist trade.

This , ladies and gentleman is a proud example of the education system, well done Hahahaha

Education has taught us to question..

. "

Maybe I’m one of the lucky few that picked up some common sense along the way and kept the tinfoil helmets off my head

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Natural...

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense.....

No. Because this is not the first global warming..dont let them brainwash you.. "

Oh. OK.

So if I say I believe the overwhelming scientific consensus based on virtually all available peer reviewed scientific data....

The explanation that makes most sense to you is that I have been brainwashed?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Natural...

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense.....

No. Because this is not the first global warming..dont let them brainwash you..

Oh. OK.

So if I say I believe the overwhelming scientific consensus based on virtually all available peer reviewed scientific data....

The explanation that makes most sense to you is that I have been brainwashed? "

Yes but it's not your fault

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Climate change seems very similar to religion - thousands of expert say something exists, millions of people believe it and millions of people don't give a shit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I said same thing earlier in a similar post. Climate change has been happening throughout earths history. As a species we have been here only a blink of a eye.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

So let's enjoy it while we can

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Climate change seems very similar to religion - thousands of expert say something exists, millions of people believe it and millions of people don't give a shit."

Sure. If you ignore the fact that one is backed up by a ton of science, and one isn’t.

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Natural...

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense.....

No. Because this is not the first global warming..dont let them brainwash you..

Oh. OK.

So if I say I believe the overwhelming scientific consensus based on virtually all available peer reviewed scientific data....

The explanation that makes most sense to you is that I have been brainwashed?

Yes but it's not your fault"

Blimey. I feel a bit foolish now for being so weak minded.

So let me get this straight - all the science is part of what? Some massive global conspiracy? To make us recycle stuff, use reusable coffee cups, and switch off our TVs at night?

Because that makes sense....

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


""We" is humankind in general, we seem to have done our best to destroy what is available to us rather than safeguard it. "

Well when it comes to environmental policy then I agree with a 'we' policy. But hunger and space exploration are national issues. North Korea does indeed divert money that could buy food, into rocket programmes. That's not a process I feel I have much part in.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Companies use science to convince the masses ..

Don't let them suck you in.

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

bolton


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Companies use science to convince the masses ..

Don't let them suck you in.

"

Exactly... science.... whereas Facebook conspiracy theorists in the mums basement are the ones we need to trust, I’m with you haha

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"

Companies use science to convince the masses ..

Don't let them suck you in.

Exactly... science.... whereas Facebook conspiracy theorists in the mums basement are the ones we need to trust, I’m with you haha "

Join the club....

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

And back to the original point...

The climate has never stood still and man will never control.it despite the mad scientist claims

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By *agermeisterMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"Natural..."

Science doesn't give a shit what you think

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Natural...

Science doesn't give a shit what you think

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report"

And neither does the business or people

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Landmark report

Today's news and tomorrow's chip wrappings

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"And back to the original point...

The climate has never stood still and man will never control.it despite the mad scientist claims"

Yep , totally agree with you . Of course it’s natural .

When the world wasn’t inhabited by humans there was cataclysmic climate change . The world was covered in ice and it warmed up . Totally natural unless there were ancient beings with fridges ( unnecessary then but who knows ) and dinosaur farts emitted massive co2 to mess up the atmosphere .

It’s a big con and the mugs are the ones sucked in by it .

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Roll on a few thousand or million years..

Scientists say that the world is cooling... Sea levels will fall..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The planet is trying to cure itself, plan is let humans reproduce until they poison themselves. When they are all dead, the increased CO2 will fead plant life which will make for lots of oxygen and move on with it's life without that pesky human infestation.

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Companies use science to convince the masses ..

Don't let them suck you in.

"

So companies want us to use stuff for longer, and recycle and reuse stuff....

Rather than go our and buy or use more of their stuff?

Got it!

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"And back to the original point...

The climate has never stood still and man will never control.it despite the mad scientist claims

Yep , totally agree with you . Of course it’s natural .

When the world wasn’t inhabited by humans there was cataclysmic climate change . The world was covered in ice and it warmed up . Totally natural unless there were ancient beings with fridges ( unnecessary then but who knows ) and dinosaur farts emitted massive co2 to mess up the atmosphere .

It’s a big con and the mugs are the ones sucked in by it ."

Ah, sinis this period of warming exactly the same as other periods of warming?

Or is it different?

If it’s the same, what’s your source?

If it’s different, what are the differences?

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By *ky19Man
over a year ago

Plymouth OYO Hotel


"Natural...

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense.....

Self licking lollipop. Group think reviewing themselves."

This. Group think is absolutely rife, with the power ending up with those who take one side, with the others being frozen out.

The meeting in 1989 led by Steven E Jones in which it was decided cold fusion wasn't feasible was essentially decided by a show of hands, and I agree that the way it was carried out was a great example of group think/popularity winning the day.

Scientific consensus often doesn't appear to be much more than just politics in the scientific community. And they tend to get led by the money far more than I feel comfortable with.

And when a consensus leans one way, the system is then biased heavily against anyone who differs, often getting shut down before they start. Everyone has to toe the line.

Science (in general) often isn't as scientific as it's cracked up to be.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

It's all a conspiracy by western governments to stall the industrialisation of developing economies such as India, China and the African nations. We can't let them become "world players" now can we......

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over a year ago


"It's all a conspiracy by western governments to stall the industrialisation of developing economies such as India, China and the African nations. We can't let them become "world players" now can we......"

China will over take the US economy in less than 15 years.

China is the world leader in renewables and solar power farms.Its a boom industry for China.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"It's all a conspiracy by western governments to stall the industrialisation of developing economies such as India, China and the African nations. We can't let them become "world players" now can we......

China will over take the US economy in less than 15 years.

China is the world leader in renewables and solar power farms.Its a boom industry for China.

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So they're too late to stop China. Or China is driving the industry...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's all a conspiracy by western governments to stall the industrialisation of developing economies such as India, China and the African nations. We can't let them become "world players" now can we......

China will over take the US economy in less than 15 years.

China is the world leader in renewables and solar power farms.Its a boom industry for China.

So they're too late to stop China. Or China is driving the industry... "

There is no conspiracy.Solar farms make economic sense compared to fossil fuels and countries like India and China are investing heavily.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I remember those Scientists telling us GM pest resistant food would be our saviour.. wrong.. insects and pests now love them... Myxi in rabbits.. wrong... Even bees escaping in S.America..

Of course the consensus is never wrong

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"As I said earlier, until we stop digging up carbon and burning it, which a lot of the "First World" countries have been doing for many years, then it will come back to haunt us. We now have the technology to provide alternative power for every person on the planet, but we choose to put our resources elsewhere. It's a sad indictment of modern humanity "
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I work in the sector, we don't, were not even close, the bit we do helps though and given time we'll get somewhere close but until somebody gets cold fusion up and running which is an engineering problem not a technical one we're never getting off hydro carbons, let alone nuclear, or wind turbine or pv.

All of which I hate to point out will have a c02 output still.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread"

We can't be saved

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

We can't be saved"
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I'll reserve my opinion until one of these climate worriers get back to me on the specifics, last time I asked for specifics somebody just rattled on about throwing somebody off a roof

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

We can't be saved.

I'll reserve my opinion until one of these climate worriers get back to me on the specifics, last time I asked for specifics somebody just rattled on about throwing somebody off a roof "

Reducing CO2 won't stop climate change, only a matter of time until it changes to the extent that the planet will be inhabitable. Catastrophe is inevitable

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

We can't be saved.

I'll reserve my opinion until one of these climate worriers get back to me on the specifics, last time I asked for specifics somebody just rattled on about throwing somebody off a roof

Reducing CO2 won't stop climate change, only a matter of time until it changes to the extent that the planet will be inhabitable. Catastrophe is inevitable "
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Yes I know that, I think there taking on a near term timetable ie 50-100+ years.

Frankly I haven't got 50 years left in me so it worries me naught

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

We can't be saved.

I'll reserve my opinion until one of these climate worriers get back to me on the specifics, last time I asked for specifics somebody just rattled on about throwing somebody off a roof

Reducing CO2 won't stop climate change, only a matter of time until it changes to the extent that the planet will be inhabitable. Catastrophe is inevitable .

Yes I know that, I think there taking on a near term timetable ie 50-100+ years.

Frankly I haven't got 50 years left in me so it worries me naught "

Sucks the dinosaurs got longer

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Do you think someone could ask people to stop burning rainforests for palm oil and farmland?

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

We can't be saved.

I'll reserve my opinion until one of these climate worriers get back to me on the specifics, last time I asked for specifics somebody just rattled on about throwing somebody off a roof

Reducing CO2 won't stop climate change, only a matter of time until it changes to the extent that the planet will be inhabitable. Catastrophe is inevitable .

Yes I know that, I think there taking on a near term timetable ie 50-100+ years.

Frankly I haven't got 50 years left in me so it worries me naught

Sucks the dinosaurs got longer "
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Yes I guess they did!.

If only there'd spent there 200 million years doing something useful like building an anti meteor defense system there'd still be here today.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"Do you think someone could ask people to stop burning rainforests for palm oil and farmland?"
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Would that cure the problem?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you think someone could ask people to stop burning rainforests for palm oil and farmland?"

No everyone loves Nutella and orangutans went down an evolutionary cul de sac .

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

We can't be saved.

I'll reserve my opinion until one of these climate worriers get back to me on the specifics, last time I asked for specifics somebody just rattled on about throwing somebody off a roof "

My bad, I credited you with the ability to follow a simple enough analogy.

Let me know which bit you didn’t follow and I’ll do my best to explain it more clearly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And back to the original point...

The climate has never stood still and man will never control.it despite the mad scientist claims"

Back to my original reply.

You'd allow a scientist to resurrect a rhino from DNA so therefore trust science. Therefore you trust scientists to tell you their research is correct, and you support the claim man-made acceleration of climate change.

You keep asking for specifics? Where is the 'resurrect rhinos from DNA' specific, OP? Don't have it? Then you support man-made acceleration of climate change, simples.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

We can't be saved.

I'll reserve my opinion until one of these climate worriers get back to me on the specifics, last time I asked for specifics somebody just rattled on about throwing somebody off a roof

My bad, I credited you with the ability to follow a simple enough analogy.

Let me know which bit you didn’t follow and I’ll do my best to explain it more clearly. "
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No I just wanted specifics to the problem YOUR telling people about?.

So I'll ask you again (even though I've asked you and others many times already).

What do we need to do to solve this problem?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

natural but accelerated.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

The current cycle is exacerbated by man. Without human input we would not be seeing anything like the current changes, nor the anticipated ones.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

We can't be saved.

I'll reserve my opinion until one of these climate worriers get back to me on the specifics, last time I asked for specifics somebody just rattled on about throwing somebody off a roof

My bad, I credited you with the ability to follow a simple enough analogy.

Let me know which bit you didn’t follow and I’ll do my best to explain it more clearly. .

No I just wanted specifics to the problem YOUR telling people about?.

So I'll ask you again (even though I've asked you and others many times already).

What do we need to do to solve this problem?

"

I've told you before, you need to become vegan, don't have any more children and constantly remind your neighbours that you drive an electric car because "you wanted to be part of the solution and not part of the problem".

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By *agermeisterMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread"

Seeing as you are too lazy to read the links I post;

Carbon pollution has to be reduced by 45% by 2030.

How? Well if you really don't know

Stop deforestation

Greater use of renewable energy

Reduce fossil fuel extraction inc. fracking

Reduce fossil fuel consumption - tighter industry regs

Use car less - more hybrid/electric use

Less children

Reduce nimal products in diet/go vegan

Increase carbon capture and storage

Stop buying useless shot

Reuse, recycle etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Common sense really.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

Seeing as you are too lazy to read the links I post;

Carbon pollution has to be reduced by 45% by 2030.

How? Well if you really don't know

Stop deforestation

Greater use of renewable energy

Reduce fossil fuel extraction inc. fracking

Reduce fossil fuel consumption - tighter industry regs

Use car less - more hybrid/electric use

Less children

Reduce nimal products in diet/go vegan

Increase carbon capture and storage

Stop buying useless shot

Reuse, recycle etc

"

My personal opinion:

Stop deforestation - good idea

Greater use of renewable energy - good long term idea

Reduce fossil fuel extraction inc. fracking - undecided

Reduce fossil fuel consumption - tighter industry regs - good long term idea

Use car less - more hybrid/electric use - good long term idea

Less children - nope

Reduce nimal products in diet/go vegan - nope

Increase carbon capture and storage - good idea

Stop buying useless shot - good idea

Reuse, recycle etc - good idea

Not bad for a frothing-at-the-mouth neo-con

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Common sense really. "

If I kill two vegans, does that mean i can have an extra child?

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

Seeing as you are too lazy to read the links I post;

Carbon pollution has to be reduced by 45% by 2030.

How? Well if you really don't know

Stop deforestation

Greater use of renewable energy

Reduce fossil fuel extraction inc. fracking

Reduce fossil fuel consumption - tighter industry regs

Use car less - more hybrid/electric use

Less children

Reduce nimal products in diet/go vegan

Increase carbon capture and storage

Stop buying useless shot

Reuse, recycle etc

"

It’s got nothing to do with being too lazy to read the links you post .

It’s because some of us don’t give a fuck about bullshit , scientific bullshit at that .

Science does a great job of proving what it wants us to believe . It’s certainly works as one can clearly see in threads like this .

And before anyone asks me for evidence or facts that back up my statement , I can’t be arsed to final any . Because no scientists have been been paid to come up with scientific evidence to prove me right . But that doesn’t mean I’m not

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

Seeing as you are too lazy to read the links I post;

Carbon pollution has to be reduced by 45% by 2030.

How? Well if you really don't know

Stop deforestation

Greater use of renewable energy

Reduce fossil fuel extraction inc. fracking

Reduce fossil fuel consumption - tighter industry regs

Use car less - more hybrid/electric use

Less children

Reduce nimal products in diet/go vegan

Increase carbon capture and storage

Stop buying useless shot

Reuse, recycle etc

It’s got nothing to do with being too lazy to read the links you post .

It’s because some of us don’t give a fuck about bullshit , scientific bullshit at that .

Science does a great job of proving what it wants us to believe . It’s certainly works as one can clearly see in threads like this .

And before anyone asks me for evidence or facts that back up my statement , I can’t be arsed to final any . Because no scientists have been been paid to come up with scientific evidence to prove me right . But that doesn’t mean I’m not "

So what is your logic here? If scientists have funding from someone, the data / evidence is automatically false?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Usually....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So what is your logic here? If scientists have funding from someone, the data / evidence is automatically false? "

Not so much false, just that if you want to research a topic that goes against the establishment perception, you won't get funding so the research doesn't get done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So scientists tell you there's a comet coming, and you'll rush out to see it at night.

But they tell you that global warming is real and man made, but that's inconvenient for me so it's a lie? Doh!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" So scientists tell you there's a comet coming, and you'll rush out to see it at night.

But they tell you that global warming is real and man made, but that's inconvenient for me so it's a lie? Doh! "

Astronomy and climatology are two very different branches of science

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" So scientists tell you there's a comet coming, and you'll rush out to see it at night.

But they tell you that global warming is real and man made, but that's inconvenient for me so it's a lie? Doh!

Astronomy and climatology are two very different branches of science "

And your point?

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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Reading this thread back I'm afraid we're all doomed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" So scientists tell you there's a comet coming, and you'll rush out to see it at night.

But they tell you that global warming is real and man made, but that's inconvenient for me so it's a lie? Doh! "

Nope, they are not wrong that climate change is happening. It's no longer called global warming by the way. And they are not wrong in saying that any pollution we create will affect that change.

But that is not saying that we can stop it by changing our habits. Pollution per person is massively down on 60+ years ago, but persons are up, the air is still cleaner in many parts of the world but climate is still changing.

Nobody is actually finding an answer mostly because nobody is really looking.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

Seeing as you are too lazy to read the links I post;

Carbon pollution has to be reduced by 45% by 2030.

"
.

I haven't read anything you've posted I'll be honest but I'm going to ask you for specifics again, reducing c02 by 45% in 11 years will save us from this climate disaster will it?.

Is that a global reduction in c02 of 45% or just a UK one?.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


" So scientists tell you there's a comet coming, and you'll rush out to see it at night.

But they tell you that global warming is real and man made, but that's inconvenient for me so it's a lie? Doh!

Astronomy and climatology are two very different branches of science

And your point? "

I think the problem is that many people seem to like yo choose which science they accept.

The other problem is that science evolves...in many cases there might not be a definitive answer or that answer will change as we know more.

Unlike religion ... scientists revise their theories as new information or evidence comes to light.

As to the original question. Climate changes are part of a natural cycle BUT I am satisfied that the current situation gas been greatly worsened by human actions.

Nita

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

We can't be saved.

I'll reserve my opinion until one of these climate worriers get back to me on the specifics, last time I asked for specifics somebody just rattled on about throwing somebody off a roof

My bad, I credited you with the ability to follow a simple enough analogy.

Let me know which bit you didn’t follow and I’ll do my best to explain it more clearly. .

No I just wanted specifics to the problem YOUR telling people about?.

So I'll ask you again (even though I've asked you and others many times already).

What do we need to do to solve this problem?

I've told you before, you need to become vegan, don't have any more children and constantly remind your neighbours that you drive an electric car because "you wanted to be part of the solution and not part of the problem". "
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I don't have any children and at my age I doubt I ever will, there is zero chance of me becoming vegan along with about 90% of the rest of the world but yes I do have an electric car, alas I also have a petrol car for those longer distance commutes.

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

bolton


"So what is your logic here? If scientists have funding from someone, the data / evidence is automatically false?

Not so much false, just that if you want to research a topic that goes against the establishment perception, you won't get funding so the research doesn't get done.

"

So what about the small sectors of science that shows global warming was always going to be inevitable, should we trust them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So what is your logic here? If scientists have funding from someone, the data / evidence is automatically false?

Not so much false, just that if you want to research a topic that goes against the establishment perception, you won't get funding so the research doesn't get done.

So what about the small sectors of science that shows global warming was always going to be inevitable, should we trust them?"

We are currently leaving the current ice age. For 85% of the time this planet has existed there has been no ice at the north or south poles. Therefore we are currently and have always lived in an ice age.

That bit is natural, we are allegedly speeding it up, so I and I suspect many of you have switched to low energy light bulbs to save electricity, while some idiot decided we should use that spare electricity to power cars, thereby nullifying 10 years of reducing electricity demand.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

So in the interests of research seen as none of the leftist could be arsed giving me specifics, a quick Google, well that just gives various media headlines the older headlines read something along the lines of 40% reductions by 2070 followed by newer ones of 70% reductions by 2040 followed by very recent ones of zero yes zero emissions by 2030.

Oh it's all getting a bit tedious now.

So I googled the Paris agreement, not much there except some promises to stop temperature going above 1.5 degrees but no actual science on how to achieve that.

So then I googled again and it turns out the official scientific guidance is... Wait for it net zero by 2050!!

Are these people even living in the real world?.

That's just not even remotely possible.

No wonder nobody wanted to give me specifics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But zero by 2050 will not stop climate change, even if it was achieved.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Oh my days how I laughed, net zero emissions.

So to clarify we have to completely and utterly rebuild pretty much every infrastructure in the entire world while we all eat bamboo and never plough a field!.

Oh and invent something majorly massive to capture carbon and store it for nearly ever and do all this without using anything that produces c02 like cars boats trains planes diggers, earth movers, tractors, trucks, any electric that's made from gas, build every wind turbine without using hydro carbons, transport them and fit them by men on horseback while we also slaughter 350 million cattle worldwide incase they fart!!.

You bunch of leftist tits and your utopian ideas.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"So in the interests of research seen as none of the leftist could be arsed giving me specifics, a quick Google, well that just gives various media headlines the older headlines read something along the lines of 40% reductions by 2070 followed by newer ones of 70% reductions by 2040 followed by very recent ones of zero yes zero emissions by 2030.

Oh it's all getting a bit tedious now.

So I googled the Paris agreement, not much there except some promises to stop temperature going above 1.5 degrees but no actual science on how to achieve that.

So then I googled again and it turns out the official scientific guidance is... Wait for it net zero by 2050!!

Are these people even living in the real world?.

That's just not even remotely possible.

No wonder nobody wanted to give me specifics"

In the interests of fairness, there are other benefits to parts of the agenda. For example, the quality of our air is fucking awful in pretty much every city in the UK. Neither of us would choose to buy a house that was built on our near landfill so more recycling is pretty good. I believe the omega 3 content of salmon is about half what it used to be, I don't know that cutting plastic out the ocean would directly solve that, but i know that fish and plastic don't mix. Broadly speaking, our economy meets our basic needs before 2pm so a few jobs for the boys in some nice tech industries to improve batteries and shit like that wouldn't hurt the old GDP. Other than going vegan and not having kids, most their suggestions were pretty good things to do anyway.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"But zero by 2050 will not stop climate change, even if it was achieved."
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No that's right, it just slows it to it's natural rate, what a crock of utter leftist bullshit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But zero by 2050 will not stop climate change, even if it was achieved..

No that's right, it just slows it to it's natural rate, what a crock of utter leftist bullshit "

What is the natural rate? Every vodka drinker knows the last 10% of an ice cube melts a lot quicker than the first 10%

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"But zero by 2050 will not stop climate change, even if it was achieved..

No that's right, it just slows it to it's natural rate, what a crock of utter leftist bullshit

What is the natural rate? Every vodka drinker knows the last 10% of an ice cube melts a lot quicker than the first 10% "
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I wouldn't know, I'm a whisky drinker

What I do know is that if they even attempted to implement half those things, well there going to need alot more gulags.

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By *reland8Man
over a year ago

sandyford


"Natural..."

You are using this site all wrong....

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By *agermeisterMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

Seeing as you are too lazy to read the links I post;

Carbon pollution has to be reduced by 45% by 2030.

.

I haven't read anything you've posted I'll be honest but I'm going to ask you for specifics again, reducing c02 by 45% in 11 years will save us from this climate disaster will it?.

Is that a global reduction in c02 of 45% or just a UK one?."

Globally. And your reply is going to be depressingly ptedictable

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

Seeing as you are too lazy to read the links I post;

Carbon pollution has to be reduced by 45% by 2030.

.

I haven't read anything you've posted I'll be honest but I'm going to ask you for specifics again, reducing c02 by 45% in 11 years will save us from this climate disaster will it?.

Is that a global reduction in c02 of 45% or just a UK one?.

Globally. And your reply is going to be depressingly ptedictable"
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Oh no I've already looked it up myself thanks.

It's zero emissions within 31 years 80% within 16 years.

Good luck and bon voyage

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By *agermeisterMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"So in the interests of research seen as none of the leftist could be arsed giving me specifics, a quick Google, well that just gives various media headlines the older headlines read something along the lines of 40% reductions by 2070 followed by newer ones of 70% reductions by 2040 followed by very recent ones of zero yes zero emissions by 2030.

Oh it's all getting a bit tedious now.

So I googled the Paris agreement, not much there except some promises to stop temperature going above 1.5 degrees but no actual science on how to achieve that.

So then I googled again and it turns out the official scientific guidance is... Wait for it net zero by 2050!!

Are these people even living in the real world?.

That's just not even remotely possible.

No wonder nobody wanted to give me specifics"

Do you not read anything I posted directly aimed at you?

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

This is the least worrying problem I've ever had the misgivings to read about.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


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What is the natural rate? Every vodka drinker knows the last 10% of an ice cube melts a lot quicker than the first 10% "

Exactly this.. of course the ice is melting faster...there is bugger all left...

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"So in the interests of research seen as none of the leftist could be arsed giving me specifics, a quick Google, well that just gives various media headlines the older headlines read something along the lines of 40% reductions by 2070 followed by newer ones of 70% reductions by 2040 followed by very recent ones of zero yes zero emissions by 2030.

Oh it's all getting a bit tedious now.

So I googled the Paris agreement, not much there except some promises to stop temperature going above 1.5 degrees but no actual science on how to achieve that.

So then I googled again and it turns out the official scientific guidance is... Wait for it net zero by 2050!!

Are these people even living in the real world?.

That's just not even remotely possible.

No wonder nobody wanted to give me specifics

Do you not read anything I posted directly aimed at you?"
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Oh and by the way you only posted once directly at me and it was this.

Seeing as you are too lazy to read the links I post;

Carbon pollution has to be reduced by 45% by 2030.

How? Well if you really don't know

Stop deforestation

Greater use of renewable energy

Reduce fossil fuel extraction inc. fracking

Reduce fossil fuel consumption - tighter industry regs

Use car less - more hybrid/electric use

Less children

Reduce nimal products in diet/go vegan

Increase carbon capture and storage

Stop buying useless shot

Reuse, recycle etc.

All about as specific and useless as if expect from an over emotional leftist without a clue what he's talking about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All about as specific and useless as if expect from an over emotional leftist without a clue what he's talking about.

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Why is it leftist? It's the right wing that is making all the empty gestures, smart meters, reduced vacuum wattage, reduction on internal combustion engines etc.

Not that these things are bad, just unquantified and potentially pointless.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

This thread will close soon as it will get too big and on balance most agree,even the scientists, that climate change is a natural cycle..

Maybe it's because the sun gets hotter and cooler..

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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Unbelievable Jeff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This thread will close soon as it will get too big and on balance most agree,even the scientists, that climate change is a natural cycle..

Maybe it's because the sun gets hotter and cooler..

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Well yes it does that regularly, but that isn't it, the warmth of the sun is not convection, it's infrared energy interacting with the planets atmosphere. The cycle is a long game probably played out through the universe. You probably don't want to be here in the coming Oxygen rich years, think 12' cockroaches etc.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"All about as specific and useless as if expect from an over emotional leftist without a clue what he's talking about.

Why is it leftist? It's the right wing that is making all the empty gestures, smart meters, reduced vacuum wattage, reduction on internal combustion engines etc.

Not that these things are bad, just unquantified and potentially pointless."
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Because there's an entire leftist agenda behind climate change, it's got nothing to do with the science and everything to do with utopia,I mean we've just done the numbers its utterly pointless, even if everything they say is correct, we're never going to achieve anything close to the solution, problems that don't have Solutions but require you to think of the world differently are the calling card of the leftists, it's about changing mind sets because the reality is they don't want you to stop driving or flying or buying stuff, that's crazy talk, what they want is you to feel bad about doing all that stuff, people that feel bad about themselves tend to turn to the dark side (leftism) for redemption, it's a trick they learnt from religion, and one of the reasons why nearly all leftists are atheists, meet the new God, same as the old God.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All about as specific and useless as if expect from an over emotional leftist without a clue what he's talking about.

Why is it leftist? It's the right wing that is making all the empty gestures, smart meters, reduced vacuum wattage, reduction on internal combustion engines etc.

Not that these things are bad, just unquantified and potentially pointless..

Because there's an entire leftist agenda behind climate change, it's got nothing to do with the science and everything to do with utopia,I mean we've just done the numbers its utterly pointless, even if everything they say is correct, we're never going to achieve anything close to the solution, problems that don't have Solutions but require you to think of the world differently are the calling card of the leftists, it's about changing mind sets because the reality is they don't want you to stop driving or flying or buying stuff, that's crazy talk, what they want is you to feel bad about doing all that stuff, people that feel bad about themselves tend to turn to the dark side (leftism) for redemption, it's a trick they learnt from religion, and one of the reasons why nearly all leftists are atheists, meet the new God, same as the old God.

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That's just daft... right wing politics brings in all the pointless legislation, Right wing USA created the 2008 financial crash, yet you claim that it's left wing politics that should be blamed because they are not God botherers

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"All about as specific and useless as if expect from an over emotional leftist without a clue what he's talking about.

Why is it leftist? It's the right wing that is making all the empty gestures, smart meters, reduced vacuum wattage, reduction on internal combustion engines etc.

Not that these things are bad, just unquantified and potentially pointless..

Because there's an entire leftist agenda behind climate change, it's got nothing to do with the science and everything to do with utopia,I mean we've just done the numbers its utterly pointless, even if everything they say is correct, we're never going to achieve anything close to the solution, problems that don't have Solutions but require you to think of the world differently are the calling card of the leftists, it's about changing mind sets because the reality is they don't want you to stop driving or flying or buying stuff, that's crazy talk, what they want is you to feel bad about doing all that stuff, people that feel bad about themselves tend to turn to the dark side (leftism) for redemption, it's a trick they learnt from religion, and one of the reasons why nearly all leftists are atheists, meet the new God, same as the old God.

That's just daft... right wing politics brings in all the pointless legislation, Right wing USA created the 2008 financial crash, yet you claim that it's left wing politics that should be blamed because they are not God botherers "
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The devil tricks you easily friend.

I think you'll find that was bill Clinton

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


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That's just daft... right wing politics brings in all the pointless legislation, Right wing USA created the 2008 financial crash, yet you claim that it's left wing politics that should be blamed because they are not God botherers "

Pure delusion. I appreciate the left have no regard for the truth and rewriting history is a prerequisite to making left wing beliefs seem tolerable. But that is the biggest whopper I've read in 2018.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester


"

That's just daft... right wing politics brings in all the pointless legislation, Right wing USA created the 2008 financial crash, yet you claim that it's left wing politics that should be blamed because they are not God botherers

Pure delusion. I appreciate the left have no regard for the truth and rewriting history is a prerequisite to making left wing beliefs seem tolerable. But that is the biggest whopper I've read in 2018. "
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Exactly, the credit modernization act.

Credit default swaps were immune to regulation, it's what the entire banking crises was caused by, add to that he also passed legislation that forced banks to lend mortgages to people who couldn't afford them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I said same thing earlier in a similar post. Climate change has been happening throughout earths history. As a species we have been here only a blink of a eye. "

We have been here but the blink of an eye but we have negatively impacted the biosphere a hell of a lot in that short time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

That's just daft... right wing politics brings in all the pointless legislation, Right wing USA created the 2008 financial crash, yet you claim that it's left wing politics that should be blamed because they are not God botherers

Pure delusion. I appreciate the left have no regard for the truth and rewriting history is a prerequisite to making left wing beliefs seem tolerable. But that is the biggest whopper I've read in 2018. "

Bush was running the USA when toxic debt caused a banking collapse. I have no idea what proportion of left or right wing politicians are religious, but suspect it's proportionately similar. Climate change has been happening for centuries, it and reactions to it are neither left or right wing.

Pretty sure the % balance between oxygen and carbon dioxide isn't claiming any political doctrain either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mass deforestation to provide more grounds for breading livestock to be slaughtered and sold For human consumption

Actually soybeans are far worse than meat. We don't cut down the Amazon because it's a good place to raise cows. "

I believe most of the Soy and similar crops are grown to fed to the cattle. Even though there is plenty of areas of grassland that cattle could graze. It's more profitable to fed them Soy.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"

That's just daft... right wing politics brings in all the pointless legislation, Right wing USA created the 2008 financial crash, yet you claim that it's left wing politics that should be blamed because they are not God botherers

Pure delusion. I appreciate the left have no regard for the truth and rewriting history is a prerequisite to making left wing beliefs seem tolerable. But that is the biggest whopper I've read in 2018.

Bush was running the USA when toxic debt caused a banking collapse. I have no idea what proportion of left or right wing politicians are religious, but suspect it's proportionately similar. Climate change has been happening for centuries, it and reactions to it are neither left or right wing.

Pretty sure the % balance between oxygen and carbon dioxide isn't claiming any political doctrain either. "

That's your evidence! Bush was in charge!! Go read the financial services modernization act, educate yourself on credit default swaps and why CDOs were invented in the first place. It's almost impossible to be a demoract and a Christian and the last leader of the lib dems basically had to quit because of thought crimes against political correctness. You'd be hard pressed to find someone on the Labour front bench that isn't divorced. There are very few religious people on the left for some fairly fundamental reasons. Hence they create their own religions like veganism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I said same thing earlier in a similar post. Climate change has been happening throughout earths history. As a species we have been here only a blink of a eye.

We have been here but the blink of an eye but we have negatively impacted the biosphere a hell of a lot in that short time."

We did a bit, but I think you are being a bit disingenuous to lichens. Without them there would be no soil, no plant's little oxygen, so basically no biosphere for us to play with. Credit where it's due and all that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok... so are you saying that climate change is God's punishment for the Labour government not going to church and not paying sufficient note to the sanctity of marriage?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How much c02 do we need to cut and in what time scale to save us from this catastrophe?.

Nobody gave me an answer on the last thread

We can't be saved.

I'll reserve my opinion until one of these climate worriers get back to me on the specifics, last time I asked for specifics somebody just rattled on about throwing somebody off a roof

Reducing CO2 won't stop climate change, only a matter of time until it changes to the extent that the planet will be inhabitable. Catastrophe is inevitable "

I went to the Maldives on honeymoon 10 years ago because they would be underwater in 10 years. Funny that not a single inhabited island has changed a jot isn't it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As usual the right ringers want to watch the earth burn because it's the will of God...The tree huggers are making up climate change to nudge everyone to become vegans and a stuffed lion is better than an alive one because it's "conserved " by conservatives,

The religious right in the forums are like just like Isis...

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

More hyperbole from the sanctimonious hypocrites of the left.

None of them will have cut there emissions by 45% not one, none of them will be walking to They're next meet, none of them are walking around in charity clothing, in fact the only saving there doing is the travel on not having a job!.

Nobody on the right wishes to see the earth burn we just want realistic options, if the only solution to climate change is utterly destroying every economy in the world well we'd rather take are chances on the science being wrong or use our genius, innovation and hydro carbons to mitigate the worst of it.

The tree huggers are the worst of all, they produce nothing in terms of money to mitigate climate change, live off the taxes of those that do and STILL emit c02 of they're own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The right can't cobble togeather one single climate change policy yet relentlessly foam at the mouth about conservationists and environmentalist and lefty tree huggers .

A bettter example of wilful ignorance in the face of scientific data you will not see.

A beautiful and delicious example of Ignorance .

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


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I went to the Maldives on honeymoon 10 years ago because they would be underwater in 10 years. Funny that not a single inhabited island has changed a jot isn't it. "

That's an inconvenient truth for the consensus. Lots of marketing opportunities in this science lark...

Hope you enjoyed your hol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Natural..."

I always struggled from the transition autumn to winter so now. Guaranteed to get sick or on the brink for weeks. Its very annoying considering this is my most work active time of the year.

Oh did I mention I work in a hospital? why do I do this to myself?

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It is what it is.

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over a year ago

I do love how this degenerated into politics, nothing to do with science or physics just left or right wing politics.

Interesting that Vegans have been put up as the latest group to disapprove of, the right always has to have a group to blame, be that those bloody immigrants who didn't get here until 1067 or later, bloody left wing workers who don't want to work in dangerous places without safety gear, bloody women who want equal pay, bloody single parent families, or bloody vegans (can you use bloody and vegan together?)

Bottom line is it's happening, CO2 is going to rise, ice will melt giving perfect conditions for Convolvulus to take over the planet, which will consume massive quantities of CO2 and make an oxygen rich environment which will knock back the fast growing and give way to trees and air breathing animals.

Wonder if it will be bloody socialist plants that gets the blame for that

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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"I do love how this degenerated into politics, nothing to do with science or physics just left or right wing politics.

Interesting that Vegans have been put up as the latest group to disapprove of, the right always has to have a group to blame, be that those bloody immigrants who didn't get here until 1067 or later, bloody left wing workers who don't want to work in dangerous places without safety gear, bloody women who want equal pay, bloody single parent families, or bloody vegans (can you use bloody and vegan together?)

Bottom line is it's happening, CO2 is going to rise, ice will melt giving perfect conditions for Convolvulus to take over the planet, which will consume massive quantities of CO2 and make an oxygen rich environment which will knock back the fast growing and give way to trees and air breathing animals.

Wonder if it will be bloody socialist plants that gets the blame for that

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

Armchair scientists. Fascinating how so many don’t just have personal views, but actually know!!! Righteo

Personally I think it’s natural but a lot of people have got very rich off the back of believing otherwise. As a positive, it has brought about more energy efficient products.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"Natural...

So all the peer reviewed scientific days is wrong, and random people on Internet forums are right?

Because that makes the most sense.....

No. Because this is not the first global warming..dont let them brainwash you..

Oh. OK.

So if I say I believe the overwhelming scientific consensus based on virtually all available peer reviewed scientific data....

The explanation that makes most sense to you is that I have been brainwashed? "

Let's put the peer review process etc to one side for a second.

If people are brainwashing you, to what end?

I mean, I can understand why the petrochemical industry might want you to ignore the evidence, but why would environmentalists wish you to do so?

Is there big money in recycling stuff and renewable energy?

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"So what is your logic here? If scientists have funding from someone, the data / evidence is automatically false?

Not so much false, just that if you want to research a topic that goes against the establishment perception, you won't get funding so the research doesn't get done.

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What research isn’t getting done? Surely it’s exaxtly the same topic and the same research?

What research do you think isn’t getting done that should be?

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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All comes down to money ....A man made concept ....if only we had more money , we could save the world ....I,ll get me coat

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By *agermeisterMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Actually if we had less money and stopped buying useless shit then the environment would be better off.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"So what is your logic here? If scientists have funding from someone, the data / evidence is automatically false?

Not so much false, just that if you want to research a topic that goes against the establishment perception, you won't get funding so the research doesn't get done.

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So, from your experience of the funding process - which of your research proposals have been turned down and why do you think that is?

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By *ensualbicockMan
over a year ago

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"Actually if we had less money and stopped buying useless shit then the environment would be better off."

I was being sarky

Check out Venus project .

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