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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

What a horrid country this has become.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a horrid country this has become. "

Just watching this, I thought it was America at first! Very sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is that from the clip on the news ... can't believe the guy just sat there filming it !!

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By *ovelifelovefuntimesMan
over a year ago

Where ever I lay my hat

We have a generation which seems to have no respect for any form of authority, whether it be the police, other emergency services, teachers or older members of society. Very sad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a horrid country this has become. "

Are you talking about the "kung-fu kick" story? If so, a police spokesman is lambasting the public for just filming it and not stepping in to help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whys that worse than a normal person being assaulted?

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By *rincess PhoenixWoman
over a year ago

Southampton

I was more shocked no one helped! I've worked for the police and have family and friends still in the job and it's got to the point that you worry about them every time they go on duty

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By *rincess PhoenixWoman
over a year ago

Southampton

"Whys that worse than a normal person being assaulted?"

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Is that from the clip on the news ... can't believe the guy just sat there filming it !! "

Yes that's probably the worst part for me. He's not filming for evidence, more his own entertainment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was more shocked no one helped! I've worked for the police and have family and friends still in the job and it's got to the point that you worry about them every time they go on duty"

Perhaps if they give members of the public body armour, cs spray, a baton, training and a promise that they wouldn't be prosecuted for "assaulting" the attackers, a member of public might step in? That's if they haven't got a wife/husband and kids who love and rely on them.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"I was more shocked no one helped! I've worked for the police and have family and friends still in the job and it's got to the point that you worry about them every time they go on duty"

A motorcyclist helped. Without him there would have been no arrests imo.

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

Seen that video, the police undoubtedly need more funding but they also need to be recruiting a more robust type of officer who has the powers to deliver a robust response to attackers like them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whys that worse than a normal person being assaulted?"

I don't think it's worse at all. The police are people after all ....

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

" a promise that they wouldn't be prosecuted for "assaulting" the attackers"

I think that's the crux of the matter.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Whys that worse than a normal person being assaulted?

I don't think it's worse at all. The police are people after all .... "

The police shouldn't expect to be assaulted while they're at work, as none of us should.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whys that worse than a normal person being assaulted?

No one is saying it's worse but they were doing their job, pulled over a car and 3 men kicked the living daylights out of a male and female officer did a flying kick to her chest and she almost got hit by a bus"
its disgusting i agree i just dont see why the special attention a bloke got his knees blown out at the bottom of my exes street didnt even make local news

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Terrible. Seems it’s fine that the first response to this is whip out your phone and yell “worldstar”

Luckily the Officers were not seriously injured.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Is that from the clip on the news ... can't believe the guy just sat there filming it !! "
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Not only that but he was actively entertained by it!.

Beyond staggering but then who expects anything different from London these days.

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By *ocks99Man
over a year ago

Reading

" a promise that they wouldn't be prosecuted for "assaulting" the attackers

I think that's the crux of the matter."

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

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By *randmrsminxyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

Have watched it . If that happened in the states or Spain France or Germany were the police are all armed . There would be 3 less scroats breathing God's good air.

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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

Well it certainly makes a change from them assaulting innocent victims in the street or in custody under stop and search powers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well it certainly makes a change from them assaulting innocent victims in the street or in custody under stop and search powers."

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"What a horrid country this has become.

Are you talking about the "kung-fu kick" story? If so, a police spokesman is lambasting the public for just filming it and not stepping in to help

..and then another actually saying not to "unless it's safe" whatever that means.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Have watched it . If that happened in the states or Spain France or Germany were the police are all armed . There would be 3 less scroats breathing God's good air. "

3? Bit much to shoot the guy filming really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a horrid country this has become.

Are you talking about the "kung-fu kick" story? If so, a police spokesman is lambasting the public for just filming it and not stepping in to help

..and then another actually saying not to "unless it's safe" whatever that means.

And if you do step "when it's safe" you'll have non-stop sleepless nights whilst awaiting the trial where you're legally obliged to give evidence in front of the scrotes who will be making sure they remember your face for when they've completed their 10 minutes community service.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn’t have helped either to be honest. It’s not my job to risk my life detaining criminals, plus the way the justice system is, if I hurt one of them in any way I’d get done for assault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a horrid country this has become.

Are you talking about the "kung-fu kick" story? If so, a police spokesman is lambasting the public for just filming it and not stepping in to help

..and then another actually saying not to "unless it's safe" whatever that means.

Oh and the fact that as a witness ur named on all the court docs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a horrid country this has become.

Are you talking about the "kung-fu kick" story? If so, a police spokesman is lambasting the public for just filming it and not stepping in to help

..and then another actually saying not to "unless it's safe" whatever that means.

Oh and the fact that as a witness ur named on all the court docs "

There's really not much incentive to help, is there?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair it makes a change from police assaulting people and abusing thier power. Not condoning this behavior but the police reguarly assault and murder people especially in America

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was more shocked no one helped! I've worked for the police and have family and friends still in the job and it's got to the point that you worry about them every time they go on duty"

I hat eto have to say it but they nee dto be able to protect themselves and that's by being armed im afraid

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

I'd have waded in and helped the police, as I have in the past when I've seen someone getting an undeserved kicking.

I can't help thinking the majority of people who go round gobbing off about hating the police would find they get left alone if they behave themselves.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"To be fair it makes a change from police assaulting people and abusing thier power. Not condoning this behavior but the police reguarly assault and murder people especially in America "

Oh yeah, and in China to. And I'm a bit suspicious of the Columbian police force truth be told. I guess they do deserve it after all..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was more shocked no one helped! I've worked for the police and have family and friends still in the job and it's got to the point that you worry about them every time they go on duty"

I have family in the job too, I worry too. x

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By *good-being-badMan
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

"Have watched it . If that happened in the states or Spain France or Germany were the police are all armed . There would be 3 less scroats breathing God's good air. "

Or three scroats that are now armed.

I've not seen the clip

I'd not step in.. three against me, I'd lose.. three against three I might still lose , those odds are not good..

More often than not the police advise Joe public not to intervene and leave it to the police.

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By *hamboy69Man
over a year ago

huddersfield

Maybe if the Police spent less time investigating so called hate crime and persecuting motorists there would be a little more sympathy for them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All it takes for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe if the Police spent less time investigating so called hate crime and persecuting motorists there would be a little more sympathy for them

Seriously???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whys that worse than a normal person being assaulted?"

It isn't but it's indicative of where we are as a country and where we're going, if they'll do that to the police just think what they'll do an oap! Bar-stewards should be be locked up, preferably somewhere in the outer Hebrides, cue hand wringing, guardian reading Corbynistas!

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"Maybe if the Police spent less time investigating so called hate crime and persecuting motorists there would be a little more sympathy for them

More people are dirctly killed in this country by motorists, than by any other type of criminal.

I personally think they are a valid target for police activity.

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By *apmanMan
over a year ago

Harpenden

"All it takes for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing...."

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By *oney to the beeWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

"Maybe if the Police spent less time investigating so called hate crime and persecuting motorists there would be a little more sympathy for them

More people are dirctly killed in this country by motorists, than by any other type of criminal.

I personally think they are a valid target for police activity."

Are there? It wouldn't surprise me if there were I do know there are a lot of defective unsafe cars on the road and probably more uninsured so I don't think there is anything wrong with the police watching motorists.

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By *hamboy69Man
over a year ago

huddersfield

"Maybe if the Police spent less time investigating so called hate crime and persecuting motorists there would be a little more sympathy for them

More people are dirctly killed in this country by motorists, than by any other type of criminal.

I personally think they are a valid target for police activity.

Police watching motorists no problem bad driving is the cause of accidents not speeding

Most Police officers admit that speed cameras contribute little or nothing to road safety but are happy to prosecute motorists doing slightly over the speed limit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whys it now about driving

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was more shocked no one helped! I've worked for the police and have family and friends still in the job and it's got to the point that you worry about them every time they go on duty"

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By *hamboy69Man
over a year ago

huddersfield

"I was more shocked no one helped! I've worked for the police and have family and friends still in the job and it's got to the point that you worry about them every time they go on duty

I completely understand I mean those 24 officers who took part in the raid on Cliff Richards house were really putting themselves in all sort of danger

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"Whys it now about driving

Because someone made a statement that needed attention.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"To be fair it makes a change from police assaulting people and abusing thier power. Not condoning this behavior but the police reguarly assault and murder people especially in America "

This is going to be a full on

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

why would the public step in? number 1 if ya kicked fuck out of em you would end up gettin nicked. and number 2 didnt the head of the met stay in his car and drive away wen his own officer was getting stabbed outside parliment. so its ok for public to put emself in danger but head of the met is not allowed to.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

Let's hope the police start using the deaf ear, when these fillers need help.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Well it certainly makes a change from them assaulting innocent victims in the street or in custody under stop and search powers."

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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

"Whys it now about driving

Because someone made a statement that needed attention."

Something to do with Rodney king me thinks.

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By *hrobbermanMan
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

Police need to be on the beat, on the street and facing down violent crime. That is what we pay them for. That is why they can get pensioned off after 25 years with an exceptional pension scheme and lump sum.

I do not expect ANY Police Officers to be spending ANY time online checking dislikes on Facebook relationship status of gender confused or for monitoring homophobic comments on YT. That is simply nonsense.

The real world has moved on. Catch up officers! London's teen death rate for violent crime in 2018 had overtaken New York's by April this year. Drug dealers as young as 10 running areas. Never mind sending two officers to deal with a situation. Send six... forget about Facebook Thought Crimes by the d*unk - get out there and arrest the criminals destroying the civil life of Britain.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

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By *ingdong11Man
over a year ago

emsworth

"Well it certainly makes a change from them assaulting innocent victims in the street or in custody under stop and search powers."

Go wobble your head man , stop and search has gone massively and knife crime has grown massively .

They need more stop and search , if you have nothing to hide it’s a minor hindrance .

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By *ingdong11Man
over a year ago

emsworth

Gone down massively that should read .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The police simply need training. If every police officer was reasonable training it martial arts and was physical fit they would stand a much better chance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was involved in an incident with an armed robber earlier this year he was restrained on the floor by an off duty police officer and members of the public, it took police 40 minutes to arrive, the robber became ill and died the next day, one of the public helping the police officer was arrested and is still waiting to see if there will be charges. Why would anyone step in and help when potentially your breaking the law yourself? I wouldn't do it again

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By *hamboy69Man
over a year ago

huddersfield

"why would the public step in? number 1 if ya kicked fuck out of em you would end up gettin nicked. and number 2 didnt the head of the met stay in his car and drive away wen his own officer was getting stabbed outside parliment. so its ok for public to put emself in danger but head of the met is not allowed to."

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Comments on this thread appall me

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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

"Comments on this thread appall me "

Glad you clarified that/ retracted your ealier post -I was baffled by wtf "commenys" were -thought you had issues with a sub sect of communist thought or sumfin?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think in the heat of the moment. I would step in and assist especially as the officer was in a vulnerable position and attacked, however the fact the law can be flipped around against you if that assailant gets injured is ridiculous. It really does make people think twice about being public spirited.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only step in if you are able to control the situation otherwise stay back and find others to help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me "

Which views in particular?

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

We simply need more funding for the force, then we will get more police on the force.

Budgets have been slashed over there years, now we are paying the price for those cuts.

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By *erby DomCouple
over a year ago

Ashbourne(ish) and Chesterfield(ish)

"Glad you clarified that/ retracted your ealier post -I was baffled by wtf "commenys" were -thought you had issues with a sub sect of communist thought or sumfin?"
It is totally understandable why you were baffled, the letters y and t are just so far apart on the keyboard that it would be hard to work out what the typo could possibly mean. Oh, and it would be "commeys" BTW

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By *ficouldMan
over a year ago

a quandary, could you change my mind?

Pleased to see members of the public did step in after a while, yes lots just drove past. I think it we all need to step in to help another person that needs our help, once one person makes the move it motivates others to step in. Yes society is going wrong.

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By *agermeisterMan
over a year ago

Leeds

"Well it certainly makes a change from them assaulting innocent victims in the street or in custody under stop and search powers.

Go wobble your head man , stop and search has gone massively and knife crime has grown massively .

They need more stop and search , if you have nothing to hide it’s a minor hindrance ."

You'd know would you? Being white an that?

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By *erby DomCouple
over a year ago

Ashbourne(ish) and Chesterfield(ish)

It is a sad world where people would just stand by and let that happen. Just standing around and videoing it is terrible.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Glad you clarified that/ retracted your ealier post -I was baffled by wtf "commenys" were -thought you had issues with a sub sect of communist thought or sumfin?"

It's just my fat fingers.... You'll be able to decipher them soon lol

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?"

Yours to be honest

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

I can’t believe some of the idiotic comments on here , mainly for effect I’d guess . So the next time some scrote has stole your car or mugged a member of your family . Don’t phone the police .

As for stop and search , I’m sorry but if you’ve done or are doing nothing wrong . Then stop and search should not be an issue . Get over instead of hiding behind race or human rights cards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest "

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

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By *erby DomCouple
over a year ago

Ashbourne(ish) and Chesterfield(ish)

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives? "

Did they have knives?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I can’t believe some of the idiotic comments on here , mainly for effect I’d guess . So the next time some scrote has stole your car or mugged a member of your family . Don’t phone the police .

As for stop and search , I’m sorry but if you’ve done or are doing nothing wrong . Then stop and search should not be an issue . Get over instead of hiding behind race or human rights cards "

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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

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By *erby DomCouple
over a year ago

Ashbourne(ish) and Chesterfield(ish)

As for stop and search , I’m sorry but if you’ve done or are doing nothing wrong . Then stop and search should not be an issue . Get over instead of hiding behind race or human rights cards "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives? "

Like I said I wouldn't expect you too help but if I seen a female cop getting kicked in the face like that yes I would help I wouldn't think twice About it. But it's not wise for anyone to just jump in the mix

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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

"It is totally understandable why you were baffled, the letters y and t are just so far apart on the keyboard that it would be hard to work out what the typo could possibly mean. Oh, and it would be "commeys" BTW"

Yep they are aren't they -bout as far apart as the limits of your imagination.

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By *erby DomCouple
over a year ago

Ashbourne(ish) and Chesterfield(ish)

"Yep they are aren't they -bout as far apart as the limits of your imagination."
LOL, cocked that one up didn't you.

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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

"Yep they are aren't they -bout as far apart as the limits of your imagination.LOL, cocked that one up didn't you."

Stuck for ideas of your own again are we?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Oh lord... Look what a typo has started

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives? "

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

"Oh lord... Look what a typo has started

Typos are the devils work don't ya know!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that."

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that."

Why didn't the female cop have her baton out??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed. "

Did you watch the video? There were other people there and there was shouting heard on the film. It didn't stop them though. Funny that. If you're a police officer with any sense, you would always consider the hypothetical chance that the scrotes are armed.

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By *carlet_heavenWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the sticks

"Is that from the clip on the news ... can't believe the guy just sat there filming it !!

Yes that's probably the worst part for me. He's not filming for evidence, more his own entertainment. "

The film 'Nightcrawler' captures this concept brilliantly imho...carnage has filtered into our society as entertainment

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

I don't get all the anger at the guy filming it.Thats just standard today.

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over a year ago

"I don't get all the anger at the guy filming it.Thats just standard today.

It could be very valuable evidence.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I don't get all the anger at the guy filming it.Thats just standard today.

So you'd be happy getting a kicking and someone just standing there filming it?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I don't get all the anger at the guy filming it.Thats just standard today.

It could be very valuable evidence."

If permissable.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation. "

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?"

I don't know but I wouldn't fucking film it that's for sure. Until I'm there I couldn't say for sure what I'd do but I don't think I'd walk by without trying to help. Phone for help, call for help, see if there is something I could do.

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence? "

Yes, Google it

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much "

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

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By *kyblue1878Couple
over a year ago

Southport

Some ridiculous and disgraceful comments on this. Just hope you're not on the receiving end and crying for assistance, whether from police or public spirited citizens. Condoning the filming as normal nowadays beggars belief. It doesn't make it right! Society is crumbling and respect seemingly an old fashioned word that hasn't been passed by down to some people.

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By *erby DomCouple
over a year ago

Ashbourne(ish) and Chesterfield(ish)

"Some ridiculous and disgraceful comments on this. Just hope you're not on the receiving end and crying for assistance, whether from police or public spirited citizens. Condoning the filming as normal nowadays beggars belief. It doesn't make it right! Society is crumbling and respect seemingly an old fashioned word that hasn't been passed by down to some people."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

Kind of feel that when someone attacks another poster based on their gender you are probably losing the argument...

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

Kind of feel that when someone attacks another poster based on their gender you are probably losing the argument... "

It was lost way before then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen the footage and truth be told I probably wouldn't have stepped in simply because I wouldn't have been any help with that level of force. I'm not a complete coward, I've stepped in before and I'd do it again but I'm sensible enough to make my own risk assessment before doing so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree that we need authority in society to stop certain "scrotes" for derailing the status quo. I also agree that the police service is a necessary thing. I am though from Northern Ireland where I have seen and experienced first hand the long arm of the law crashing down unjustly, the result of a rage filled pig taking out his own lives anger and frustration on an unarmed 16 year old boy caught up in an idiotic situation, completely restrained and absolutely no danger to anyone or himself. Was it justified to kick the absolute shite out of me, leave me in hospital, lock me up then kick the fuck out of me again oh and then FUCKING CHARGE MY ASS WITH A PERMANENT CRIMINAL CONVICTION. No it wasn't.

Fuck the police

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=51t1OsPSdBc

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By *amelhunterMan
over a year ago

newcastle

"I was more shocked no one helped! I've worked for the police and have family and friends still in the job and it's got to the point that you worry about them every time they go on duty

I hat eto have to say it but they nee dto be able to protect themselves and that's by being armed im afraid"

No not at all, conserative government need to stop reducing police nimbers and funding.

You take 20,000 police officers away and things like this happen.

And believe me im no fan of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why should people hope they're not on the receiving end and crying for assistance from the police? That's their job! We, as tax-payers, pay them to do a job and expect them to do it. You wouldn't order 4 pints of milk and accept it when the milkman only leaves two, would you? I'm certainly not blaming individual coppers, it's not their fault, but they represent the police service and that's just what it is, a service, not a force anymore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree to a certain degree yes I would of helped female copper but at the end of the day police should be able to handle them self and not be overpowers that easily

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

Kind of feel that when someone attacks another poster based on their gender you are probably losing the argument... "

What argument are you talking about, I made a statement, not an argument.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"I don't get all the anger at the guy filming it.Thats just standard today.

It's also evidence for the prosecution.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is that from the clip on the news ... can't believe the guy just sat there filming it !!

Yes that's probably the worst part for me. He's not filming for evidence, more his own entertainment. "

Who would that muppet call for help if someone caused him grief etc oh yes the police

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is that from the clip on the news ... can't believe the guy just sat there filming it !!

Yes that's probably the worst part for me. He's not filming for evidence, more his own entertainment.

Who would that muppet call for help if someone caused him grief etc oh yes the police "

They get paid to help

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By *randmrsminxyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"Maybe if the Police spent less time investigating so called hate crime and persecuting motorists there would be a little more sympathy for them

Persecuting motorist lol if your car is legal and you drive within the law then no worries . It's surprising that that old chestnut cones out when they have been nicked for speeding

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I don't get all the anger at the guy filming it.Thats just standard today.

It's also evidence for the prosecution.

Complete with their laughing and gleeful commentary. Disgusting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that? "

It was based on this part of your post "I don't know but I wouldn't fucking film it that's for sure. Until I'm there I couldn't say for sure what I'd do but I don't think I'd walk by without trying to help. Phone for help, call for help, see if there is something I could do."

You've basically said that you would do nothing to help that hadn't already been done, if you watched and listened to the video. You wouldn't help physically, yet you feel other members of the public should risk there lives, but you won't. You're just a hypocrite trying to hide that fact behind bluster. And that makes you a keyboard warrior

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure I'd have stepped in and helped physically unless I could find something to aid me to be honest. I don't want my 2 kids to grow up without a dad based on me helping people who should be able to handle a situation. Would I want help if I was in that situation.... Of course I would...

But the truth behind the matter and the comments made by 2 ex police officers on 5 Live today mean that when you make drastic police cuts as part of an austerity programme, when your officers are sometimes having to patrol alone, when the youth of today are not given enough "stuff" to keep them occupied or indeed put of poverty.... This is what yo get.... We need to look at the root cause not just the fact that this is a terrible occurrence....

And people need to have a reality check on how They feel about the police in this thread

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is that from the clip on the news ... can't believe the guy just sat there filming it !!

Yes that's probably the worst part for me. He's not filming for evidence, more his own entertainment.

Who would that muppet call for help if someone caused him grief etc oh yes the police

They get paid to help "

And so they should , sometimes a thankless job

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By *erby DomCouple
over a year ago

Ashbourne(ish) and Chesterfield(ish)

"Not sure I'd have stepped in and helped physically unless I could find something to aid me to be honest. I don't want my 2 kids to grow up without a dad based on me helping people who should be able to handle a situation. Would I want help if I was in that situation.... Of course I would...

And people need to have a reality check on how They feel about the police in this thread"
Well said, I couldn't agree more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site. "

I said nothing about laughing whilst filming, I find that abhorrent too, but you said you wouldn't even "fucking film it" even though there was a chance that your video evidence could identify an assailant, albeit a slim chance? That at least would be doing something, but you wouldn't even do that and you're having a go at me? Seriously??

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

"I agree that we need authority in society to stop certain "scrotes" for derailing the status quo. I also agree that the police service is a necessary thing. I am though from Northern Ireland where I have seen and experienced first hand the long arm of the law crashing down unjustly, the result of a rage filled pig taking out his own lives anger and frustration on an unarmed 16 year old boy caught up in an idiotic situation, completely restrained and absolutely no danger to anyone or himself. Was it justified to kick the absolute shite out of me, leave me in hospital, lock me up then kick the fuck out of me again oh and then FUCKING CHARGE MY ASS WITH A PERMANENT CRIMINAL CONVICTION. No it wasn't.

Fuck the police

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=51t1OsPSdBc"

Sounds like you are carrying an awful lot of anger and rightly so , from what you’ve said . Does this still go on in Northern Ireland ? So are all police pigs and scum in your eyes ? What about all 16 yr olds

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

I thought it was illegal to not assist a police officer who was being attacked?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you."

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

You actually avoided my question "what would you do" by answering what you wouldn't do and telling me you'd do what everyone else on the video had already done and basically be as much use as a chocolate teapot. Have you got an answer, or would you just like to exchange pop trivia knowledge?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

I said I wouldn't do nothing. That was a direct answer to your question of are you expecting me to tell you exactly what sort of hold I'd put someone in?

I've explained TWICE that I don't know at this exact moment of time, sat on my soda, what I would do. No one can. But I have said TWICE that I would try to do something. Perhaps it is what people in the video did as well, I never said that no one did anything to help.

I merely questioned your assertion that there is a risk of someone being prosecuted for assault if they attempted to help. An assertion you have failed to back up when questioned about it other than 'Google it'.

I'm sorry you feel threatened by having your comments questioned. I'm sorry that your response to being question is to call do done a 'keyboard warrior'. I'm sorry you can't argue better than that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck the police

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=51t1OsPSdBc"

So from an encounter with one complete arsehole you decided the others are all the same?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

I said I wouldn't do nothing. That was a direct answer to your question of are you expecting me to tell you exactly what sort of hold I'd put someone in?

I'm sorry you feel threatened by having your comments questioned. I'm sorry that your response to being question is to call do done a 'keyboard warrior'. I'm sorry you can't argue better than that. "

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought it was illegal to not assist a police officer who was being attacked?"

It is an offence to fail to assist an officer when requested, but no-one ever gets prosecuted for it because it can clearly be unreasonable in some cases.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

I said I wouldn't do nothing. That was a direct answer to your question of are you expecting me to tell you exactly what sort of hold I'd put someone in?

I'm sorry you feel threatened by having your comments questioned. I'm sorry that your response to being question is to call do done a 'keyboard warrior'. I'm sorry you can't argue better than that.

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh."

Learnt from the best Mr Sham

Wasn't that what you did when calling me a keyboard warrior?! I think so! When you point one finger, three point back at you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" a promise that they wouldn't be prosecuted for "assaulting" the attackers

I think that's the crux of the matter.

Common law states you can use reasonable force in the circumstances for self defence of yourself or another this provides the protection

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

I said I wouldn't do nothing. That was a direct answer to your question of are you expecting me to tell you exactly what sort of hold I'd put someone in?

I'm sorry you feel threatened by having your comments questioned. I'm sorry that your response to being question is to call do done a 'keyboard warrior'. I'm sorry you can't argue better than that.

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh.

Learnt from the best Mr Sham

Wasn't that what you did when calling me a keyboard warrior?! I think so! When you point one finger, three point back at you! "

You only have three fingers? That must affect your banjo playing

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By *rincess PhoenixWoman
over a year ago

Southampton

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives? "

No they didn't!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

No they didn't!"

Not this time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" a promise that they wouldn't be prosecuted for "assaulting" the attackers

I think that's the crux of the matter.

Common law states you can use reasonable force in the circumstances for self defence of yourself or another this provides the protection

Correct. Along with S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act and even the Human Rights Act, Article 2.

It's about using reasonable force, loads of legal protection.

What it boils down to is that you want to live in an ordered society or you don't. The UK Police has many flaws but it's what stands between order and chaos. However, it only works with the consent and support, both moral and physical, of the populace.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree to a certain degree yes I would of helped female copper but at the end of the day police should be able to handle them self and not be overpowers that easily "

From the video they were hardly over powered so easily - there was 2 of them against 3 offenders who didn’t NO matter what want to be arrested- you could be a 7th dan master or a street sweeper you ain’t never going to win the fight- so many factors to consider it’s not as simple as they weren’t strong enough hard enough to over power 3 little boys !! It’s completely different from fighting in the ring ! If you think otherwise then.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" a promise that they wouldn't be prosecuted for "assaulting" the attackers

I think that's the crux of the matter.

Common law states you can use reasonable force in the circumstances for self defence of yourself or another this provides the protection

Correct. Along with S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act and even the Human Rights Act, Article 2.

It's about using reasonable force, loads of legal protection.

PACE doesn’t apply to the everyday Joe.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

I said I wouldn't do nothing. That was a direct answer to your question of are you expecting me to tell you exactly what sort of hold I'd put someone in?

I'm sorry you feel threatened by having your comments questioned. I'm sorry that your response to being question is to call do done a 'keyboard warrior'. I'm sorry you can't argue better than that.

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh.

Learnt from the best Mr Sham

Wasn't that what you did when calling me a keyboard warrior?! I think so! When you point one finger, three point back at you!

You only have three fingers? That must affect your banjo playing

Try again..... Didn't quite get there that time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" a promise that they wouldn't be prosecuted for "assaulting" the attackers

I think that's the crux of the matter.

Common law states you can use reasonable force in the circumstances for self defence of yourself or another this provides the protection

Correct. Along with S.3 Criminal Law Act, PACE Act and even the Human Rights Act, Article 2.

It's about using reasonable force, loads of legal protection.

PACE doesn’t apply to the everyday Joe. "

Only by being on the receiving end..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a horrid country this has become.

Are you talking about the "kung-fu kick" story? If so, a police spokesman is lambasting the public for just filming it and not stepping in to help

Not quite. He said that some public will help, they aren’t asking anyone to do that but they are asking the public to not sit filming the police being assaulted or to post it on social media mocking the officers, thinking it is funny when they could have suffered life threatening injuries.

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"What a horrid country this has become.

Are you talking about the "kung-fu kick" story? If so, a police spokesman is lambasting the public for just filming it and not stepping in to help

Exactly this.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

When it gets to the point of the public getting ‘entertained’ by seeing police officers getting their heads kicked in by criminals , you know society has sunk to a level lower than we ever realised it could get .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

I said I wouldn't do nothing. That was a direct answer to your question of are you expecting me to tell you exactly what sort of hold I'd put someone in?

I'm sorry you feel threatened by having your comments questioned. I'm sorry that your response to being question is to call do done a 'keyboard warrior'. I'm sorry you can't argue better than that.

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh."

Yet when you insult Evie or anyone else that tries to disagree with you on a thread that's different I assume?

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"When it gets to the point of the public getting ‘entertained’ by seeing police officers getting their heads kicked in by criminals , you know society has sunk to a level lower than we ever realised it could get .

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

Agreed!

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By *ingdong11Man
over a year ago

emsworth

"Well it certainly makes a change from them assaulting innocent victims in the street or in custody under stop and search powers.

Go wobble your head man , stop and search has gone massively and knife crime has grown massively .

They need more stop and search , if you have nothing to hide it’s a minor hindrance .

You'd know would you? Being white an that?"

Yes .

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

absolutely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

I said I wouldn't do nothing. That was a direct answer to your question of are you expecting me to tell you exactly what sort of hold I'd put someone in?

I'm sorry you feel threatened by having your comments questioned. I'm sorry that your response to being question is to call do done a 'keyboard warrior'. I'm sorry you can't argue better than that.

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh.

Yet when you insult Evie or anyone else that tries to disagree with you on a thread that's different I assume?

What on earth are you banging on about?

You think calling someone a keyboard warrior is an insult? Don't be so fragile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

I said I wouldn't do nothing. That was a direct answer to your question of are you expecting me to tell you exactly what sort of hold I'd put someone in?

I'm sorry you feel threatened by having your comments questioned. I'm sorry that your response to being question is to call do done a 'keyboard warrior'. I'm sorry you can't argue better than that.

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh.

Yet when you insult Evie or anyone else that tries to disagree with you on a thread that's different I assume?

What on earth are you banging on about?

You think calling someone a keyboard warrior is an insult? Don't be so fragile

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh.

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By *lbert_shlossedMan
over a year ago

Manchester

I'd have taken a running kick to the head of the criminal being held on the ground firstly.

That's an instant knock out leaving two police officers and myself to deal with the second one, once he'd seen his mate down he'd more than likely have ran but if he wants a 1 on 3 I'd be willing to take those odds.

Unless we stand upto this behaviour as one we're doomed as a country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

I said I wouldn't do nothing. That was a direct answer to your question of are you expecting me to tell you exactly what sort of hold I'd put someone in?

I'm sorry you feel threatened by having your comments questioned. I'm sorry that your response to being question is to call do done a 'keyboard warrior'. I'm sorry you can't argue better than that.

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh.

Yet when you insult Evie or anyone else that tries to disagree with you on a thread that's different I assume?

What on earth are you banging on about?

You think calling someone a keyboard warrior is an insult? Don't be so fragile

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh."

Wow Estella you're so clever and popular - swoon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

I said I wouldn't do nothing. That was a direct answer to your question of are you expecting me to tell you exactly what sort of hold I'd put someone in?

I'm sorry you feel threatened by having your comments questioned. I'm sorry that your response to being question is to call do done a 'keyboard warrior'. I'm sorry you can't argue better than that.

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh.

Yet when you insult Evie or anyone else that tries to disagree with you on a thread that's different I assume?

What on earth are you banging on about?

You think calling someone a keyboard warrior is an insult? Don't be so fragile

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh.

Wow Estella you're so clever and popular - swoon

True story.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Yes, how extremely clever of you.

Thanks, I thought so

had a little chuckle to myself while I wrote it

How about for you, The Specials "Do Nothing", or the Dionne Warwick classic "Walk on By"?

I said I wouldn't do nothing. That was a direct answer to your question of are you expecting me to tell you exactly what sort of hold I'd put someone in?

I'm sorry you feel threatened by having your comments questioned. I'm sorry that your response to being question is to call do done a 'keyboard warrior'. I'm sorry you can't argue better than that.

Are you a politician? This is a typical "I have no answer" answer, followed by an insult. Meh.

Yet when you insult Evie or anyone else that tries to disagree with you on a thread that's different I assume?

What on earth are you banging on about?

You think calling someone a keyboard warrior is an insult? Don't be so fragile

And what was insulting in my post to you?

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over a year ago

Keyboard warrior, keyboard warrior, keyboard warrior ner ner,ner ner

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over a year ago

"Keyboard warrior, keyboard warrior, keyboard warrior ner ner,ner ner"

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"Keyboard warrior, keyboard warrior, keyboard warrior ner ner,ner ner

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over a year ago

"Keyboard warrior, keyboard warrior, keyboard warrior ner ner,ner ner"

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"[Ironic laughter stifled by poster at 20/11/18 23:41:44]"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did they not have pepper spray or was the attack too quick x

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By *lem-H-Fandango OP Man
over a year ago

salisbury

"Did they not have pepper spray or was the attack too quick x"

https://youtu.be/w7YX2TcslVg

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By *uck-RogersMan
over a year ago

Oakhill

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

"
Sam Cooke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did they not have pepper spray or was the attack too quick x

https://youtu.be/w7YX2TcslVg"

I'm not watching it. It makes me squeamish x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Sam Cooke "

I don't think facts really matter to this poster. But, juvenile hilarity aside, let's just hope that the 2 police officers are ok and that the assailants get appropriate punishment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Sam Cooke

I don't think facts really matter to this poster. But, juvenile hilarity aside, let's just hope that the 2 police officers are ok and that the assailants get appropriate punishment."

Bring back you get the shit kicked out of you in the cells if you behave like that. Too much pussy footing about with the public has caused this x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Sam Cooke

I don't think facts really matter to this poster. But, juvenile hilarity aside, let's just hope that the 2 police officers are ok and that the assailants get appropriate punishment."

For someone so intent on facts, you’re making assumptive subjective generalised opinions about another poster, how about you follow your own preaching?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Sam Cooke

I don't think facts really matter to this poster. But, juvenile hilarity aside, let's just hope that the 2 police officers are ok and that the assailants get appropriate punishment.

Bring back you get the shit kicked out of you in the cells if you behave like that. Too much pussy footing about with the public has caused this x"

I;m really not sure how to solve the mess that Austerity has caused with law and order. But I'm pretty certain that making the police less accountable really won't help.

If the police "kick the shit out of prisoners" they deserve to lose their jobs and get sent down, Same as I would if I "kicked the shit out of someone" while doing my job. And believing that isn't going soft on criminals, it;s not being some liberal snowflake, it's expecting the police to be judged on and adhere to the same standards of behaviour and conduct as you would anyone else in life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Sam Cooke

I don't think facts really matter to this poster. But, juvenile hilarity aside, let's just hope that the 2 police officers are ok and that the assailants get appropriate punishment.

For someone so intent on facts, you’re making assumptive subjective generalised opinions about another poster, how about you follow your own preaching? "

Fact. In the singular. Reading correctly can be the key to understanding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow this escalated!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Sam Cooke

I don't think facts really matter to this poster. But, juvenile hilarity aside, let's just hope that the 2 police officers are ok and that the assailants get appropriate punishment.

For someone so intent on facts, you’re making assumptive subjective generalised opinions about another poster, how about you follow your own preaching?

Fact. In the singular. Reading correctly can be the key to understanding.

I agree. You pluralised, I read that and used it.

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By *kmale201633Man
over a year ago

Southampton

"Well it certainly makes a change from them assaulting innocent victims in the street or in custody under stop and search powers."

Have family ties within the force, the latest tactic criminals - we are talking junkies etc have is to bite inside of mouth till it bleeds and spit in the face of the policeman. Makes me emotional when I think what could actually happen to people I love due to this....then I read your comment.

We can all only hope one day in your hour of need, when you really need the police to help you they just walk past with a smile on their face.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Comments on this thread appall me

Which views in particular?

Yours to be honest

So you would step in and help 2 fully trained and kitted police officers if they were trying to arrest a couple of guys with knives?

Did they have knives?

How would you know if they didn't, until one found its way between your ribs? Given the prevalence of knife-related crimes these days, I wouldn't take the chance. My life is worth more than that.

Oh I see. You've changed the angle from about this incident to a hypothetical one.

Who says intervening has to be physical? More often than not assailants will scatter if shouted at or disturbed.

Oh... So we're back focused on the film then? No longer a hypothetical situation.

Ok then, you tell me - you've stood there and screeched at them and it's had no effect - what would YOU do then?

Your comments regarding prosecution for assault when helping... Can you provide any evidence?

Yes, Google it

So no then. Thought as much

I must confess, you're the first female keyboard warrior I've ever encountered

Good for you

I'm not being a keyboard warrior, just questioning your comments. It's called having a debate.

Am I supposed to be offended that you've called me that?

I didn't say I would do nothing. I said I dudnt know what I would do in that situation. No one can. But I wouldn't film it and laugh. I wouldn't stand and watch and do nothing.

You can try and twist what ever way you feel. I know my integrity better than some random dude on a sex site.

You're like chuck Berry mate....twisting the night away

Sam Cooke

I don't think facts really matter to this poster. But, juvenile hilarity aside, let's just hope that the 2 police officers are ok and that the assailants get appropriate punishment.

Bring back you get the shit kicked out of you in the cells if you behave like that. Too much pussy footing about with the public has caused this x

I;m really not sure how to solve the mess that Austerity has caused with law and order. But I'm pretty certain that making the police less accountable really won't help.

Your right. Don't wait till they are in the cells. Do it in the street in front of every one with no repocussions. See if people gain a bit of respect then x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds a very damaged viewpoint to think that kicking the shit out of someone garners respect from anyone.

Or a complete misunderstanding of what the word respect means.

Either way, it’s quite sad.

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