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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't quite get the "underground movement in men's rights" bit! Do you mean that more and more men are not having relationships/getting married because of the potential pit falls if it all goes pear shaped?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God forbid a man should have to pay for his children’s upbringing!!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Imagine having to contribute towards the cost of raising their kids... What is this world coming to?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"God forbid a man should have to pay for his children’s upbringing!!"

Ooo snap!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A woman also looses in a divorce. There are no winners, only the solicitors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*hums Fleetwood Mac*

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above. "

If there is, i do hope they mention it in their profiles.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"God forbid a man should have to pay for his children’s upbringing!!

Ooo snap! "

Agree a man should pay for their children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol I wish someone would tell my ex that's he's supposed to be on the losing side!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only thing I got, or wanted from my ex husband, when we split, was the divorce. What percentage of marriages actually end up spliting everything or blokes pay child support?! Marry someone you actually like, that you can trust n not just someone ya got up the stick, that might help!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A woman also looses in a divorce. There are no winners, only the solicitors."

Hear you, sister, money grabbing bar-stewards!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Maybe they should have thought of their life long responsibilities of kids before fucking their wife?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"*hums Fleetwood Mac*"

Dum, dum dum dum, dum dum dum,der dum dum, dum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry, bit ranty!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"A woman also looses in a divorce. There are no winners, only the solicitors."

Everyone loses, but I would prefer to be in a woman's shoes, if their are children involved, every day of the week. You will get 60 percent of the property and 80 percent of time with the children.

It's one area where equality has gone too far the other way.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Why wouldn’t you want to be with your kids?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A woman also looses in a divorce. There are no winners, only the solicitors.

Everyone loses, but I would prefer to be in a woman's shoes, if their are children involved, every day of the week. You will get 60 percent of the property and 80 percent of time with the children.

It's one area where equality has gone too far the other way.

"

Grass always seems greener eh? I read that as her getting the majority of both the financial liabilities and childcare responsibilities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Or the alternative view....isn't it just as risky for a woman?

Relationships always take two people, to make them or to break them.

And kids they are forever....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maybe they should have thought of their life long responsibilities of kids before fucking their wife? "

Women have a responsibility to choose their partner and who they have kids with. They choose what cock enters into her and if they are wearing protection. Why is it always the man's fault.

Just saying lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's just logic kicking in with a lot of them really, given the way the legal system works?

Not sure why it would be underground though ha!

And as a result, yes, I'd logically expect more of a rise in single lads on here (think the ratio has gone from about 7 to 1 to 11 to 1 men to women in the last few years) more posts from blokes begrudging and whining that they can't get meets and the reverse to happen on dating sites where every new bloke joining them gets pounced on by hordes and where women will doubtless be grieving that they can't get a relationship for love nor money.

And unless the legal system alters in any way there'll be a much bigger rise in bisexuals of both sexes, partly due to a much more tolerant society and partly due to this.

Just using logic!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's just logic kicking in with a lot of them really, given the way the legal system works?

Not sure why it would be underground though ha!

And as a result, yes, I'd logically expect more of a rise in single lads on here (think the ratio has gone from about 7 to 1 to 11 to 1 men to women in the last few years) more posts from blokes begrudging and whining that they can't get meets and the reverse to happen on dating sites where every new bloke joining them gets pounced on by hordes and where women will doubtless be grieving that they can't get a relationship for love nor money.

And unless the legal system alters in any way there'll be a much bigger rise in bisexuals of both sexes, partly due to a much more tolerant society and partly due to this.

Just using logic! "

Fair logical assessment

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By *winkleFairyCouple
over a year ago

UK

Ok then you spend your life on your own on the chance that things might not work out... Talk about a glass is empty perspective on life!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ok then you spend your life on your own on the chance that things might not work out... Talk about a glass is empty perspective on life! "

Some men are, extreme men going their own way, are using robot sex toys. Agree it is sad and they will miss out on some amazing experiences.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

No we just need to go to Russia and get our wives from there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seems a wee bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Sad and lonely but a little bit richer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Seems a wee bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Sad and lonely but a little bit richer. "

Money never made anyone richer...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Seems a wee bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Sad and lonely but a little bit richer. "

Exactly.... not sure it's worth joining the "underground movement"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Seems a wee bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Sad and lonely but a little bit richer.

Money never made anyone richer..."

Exactly! Financially wealthier but lacking in fulfillment.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above. "

There are men like you describe everywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do these free thinking radicals have a secret meeting place and a password/handshake? Do you get badge?

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By *hite1100Man
over a year ago

Hither Green


"No we just need to go to Russia and get our wives from there "

I know someone who has done that.

To be fair she seems like a nice enough girl and has an established career in her own right, but he earns a hell of a lot more than she does and she’s living in his flat.

I don’t think the fact she’s Russian makes any difference - it would be the same if he had married a British woman (although she’s far better looking than most Brits).

I got into trouble for dancing too enthusiastically with her at their wedding and was frogmarched to my bedroom at that point before things turned nasty .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A woman also looses in a divorce. There are no winners, only the solicitors.

Everyone loses, but I would prefer to be in a woman's shoes, if their are children involved, every day of the week. You will get 60 percent of the property and 80 percent of time with the children.

It's one area where equality has gone too far the other way.

"

That's not a fact at all. Every divorce is different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont get divorced then.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral


"No we just need to go to Russia and get our wives from there

I know someone who has done that.

To be fair she seems like a nice enough girl and has an established career in her own right, but he earns a hell of a lot more than she does and she’s living in his flat.

I don’t think the fact she’s Russian makes any difference - it would be the same if he had married a British woman (although she’s far better looking than most Brits).

I got into trouble for dancing too enthusiastically with her at their wedding and was frogmarched to my bedroom at that point before things turned nasty . "
He's a smart guy. I bet be couldn't blame you really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dont get divorced then. "

Or don't get married

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

Some women are happy to be free and see the back of their ex, wanting NOTHING from them.

Some want what is the easiest for everyone

Some will exchange their "luxury" to a difficult life financially, but still only ask for the bare minimum to support the kids, so that the father can still do the holidays etc with the children. They will do everything they can to make sure the father and kids have epic times when they're together, even if it means she goes without.

Some are just money grabbing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a underground movement in men's rights..."

You've misspelled boys'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above. "

I take issue with the basis for this argument.

"Quite a risk for a man..."

A greater risk for a woman.

We risk dying in childbirth- show me how a man can do that.

We consistently have a lower income and career prospects become limited by being the primary care giver. Long term poor financial outcome that a man doesn't.

He only becomes a part time dad if he wants to, courts promote 50/50 parental access- not a greater "risk" then in reality.

It's a cop out. Promoted by people who don't want to be open to a relationship because it doesn't suit their agenda.

By all means don't have a relationship, but don't bullshit me that it's the "risk" factor.

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By *ruebameMan
over a year ago

from the womb and tryout to get back

Sorry like but money and assets are material that you can gain back in time the only real person/people that loose out is the children unless you can still have a good relationship with the ex as for loosing it's a split down the middle and why shouldn't it be just my opinion

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above.

I take issue with the basis for this argument.

"Quite a risk for a man..."

A greater risk for a woman.

We risk dying in childbirth- show me how a man can do that.

We consistently have a lower income and career prospects become limited by being the primary care giver. Long term poor financial outcome that a man doesn't.

He only becomes a part time dad if he wants to, courts promote 50/50 parental access- not a greater "risk" then in reality.

It's a cop out. Promoted by people who don't want to be open to a relationship because it doesn't suit their agenda.

By all means don't have a relationship, but don't bullshit me that it's the "risk" factor."

I hear what you are saying, but in reality courts don't promote 50 50 childcare. That is a myth. I have seen good honourable men go through divorce and the solicitors actually say it is a floored system.

Imagine the situation, you own the 100k home, your partner puts nothing in and you marry and have 2 children. He then has an affair, you go to court, you get kicked out of your house, see your children once a fortnight, struggle financially for the next 14 years until the children are 18 and then have to sell the house and give your partner 60 per cent. You can't argue that is fair.so whether you like it or not it is a financial risk, that men are weighing up now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Prenup......

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage


"There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above.

I take issue with the basis for this argument.

"Quite a risk for a man..."

A greater risk for a woman.

We risk dying in childbirth- show me how a man can do that.

We consistently have a lower income and career prospects become limited by being the primary care giver. Long term poor financial outcome that a man doesn't.

He only becomes a part time dad if he wants to, courts promote 50/50 parental access- not a greater "risk" then in reality.

It's a cop out. Promoted by people who don't want to be open to a relationship because it doesn't suit their agenda.

By all means don't have a relationship, but don't bullshit me that it's the "risk" factor.

I hear what you are saying, but in reality courts don't promote 50 50 childcare. That is a myth. I have seen good honourable men go through divorce and the solicitors actually say it is a floored system.

Imagine the situation, you own the 100k home, your partner puts nothing in and you marry and have 2 children. He then has an affair, you go to court, you get kicked out of your house, see your children once a fortnight, struggle financially for the next 14 years until the children are 18 and then have to sell the house and give your partner 60 per cent. You can't argue that is fair.so whether you like it or not it is a financial risk, that men are weighing up now. "

Wait now for the “well he shouldn’t have had an affair” bite back..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sorry like but money and assets are material that you can gain back in time the only real person/people that loose out is the children unless you can still have a good relationship with the ex as for loosing it's a split down the middle and why shouldn't it be just my opinion "

Agree children, should come first and there should be a fair split of assets. Father's are important as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"*hums Fleetwood Mac*

Dum, dum dum dum, dum dum dum,der dum dum, dum. "

Loving you. Is it the right thing to do?

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)


"Do these free thinking radicals have a secret meeting place and a password/handshake? Do you get badge?"

Sounds like a clique to me, steer clear!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above. "

I know there are that sort of men who don't want to pay at all for their offspring.

The laughable party is the perception its harder for some scroat with a ball bag who has a child then fucks off. Its easy to see why many women think men live in cloud cuckoo land reading this.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"Prenup......"

Problem fucking solved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Prenup......

Problem fucking solved. "

Or never cohabit or marry... I won't be doing either again, if only my reasons were as simple as a crappy husband lol

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

More for me.

Go as far away as they want.

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By *zamiWoman
over a year ago

LONDON


"God forbid a man should have to pay for his children’s upbringing!!"

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By *r MoriartyMan
over a year ago

The Land that time forgot (Norfolk)

Pre nups aren't legally binding in the UK are they? Unless it's changed they weren't a few years ago. In the US they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ANDA2Couple
over a year ago

Henley Arden


"Why wouldn’t you want to be with your kids? "

Most fathers do want that. Unfortunately the courts give preference to woman on access and who the children reside with. Therefore the mother has major control over the fathers access and time with his children.

BTW that’s a fact as a google will illustrate.

Saying that I’m not in agreement with the OP post.

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By *roticGoddessXXWoman
over a year ago

Richmond


"Everyone loses, but I would prefer to be in a woman's shoes, if their are children involved, every day of the week. You will get 60 percent of the property and 80 percent of time with the children.

It's one area where equality has gone too far the other way."

60% of the funds for 80% of the work? You DO realize that kids are a full time job and a half, and are bloody expensive???

Besides providing a roof over their heads, food, clothes and age appropriate toys and entertainment, there's the time expense of dr and dentist appointments, school meetings, play dates (oh joy, more kids!). Mum is also chauffeur, button and hole mender, cleaner, therapist, cook, nurse. She has no choice but to take time off work to stay home when kids are sick, and struggle emotionally seeing her kids suffering!

IF mothers were paid even 80% for all they do, no one could afford it. Yet we do it, and it's worth it.

Maybe I've grown up and raised my kids in old fashioned communities, but I have yet to see more than 1 or 2 men EVER who put that amount of effort into their kids.

POOR fathers who have to pay 60% of joint assets after divorce.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above. "

Shame isnt it. It all becomes such an insular way of living. Despite sites like this it isnt easy to get sex or comfort from another without the relationship aspect, and we all need a bit of contact with another.

If more men come on here thinking it will solve their problems there will be dissapointment.

I think it is quite a modern way for both men and women to be now, especially if a relationship has already gone wrong, to just go it alone to avoid the pitfalls. I can see both the benefits and the drawbacks.

Sad also that our emotional lives are driven by the monetary gains or losses that may happen down the line. But then who wants to be homeless I guess

Humans are a nuisance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above.

I take issue with the basis for this argument.

"Quite a risk for a man..."

A greater risk for a woman.

We risk dying in childbirth- show me how a man can do that.

We consistently have a lower income and career prospects become limited by being the primary care giver. Long term poor financial outcome that a man doesn't.

He only becomes a part time dad if he wants to, courts promote 50/50 parental access- not a greater "risk" then in reality.

It's a cop out. Promoted by people who don't want to be open to a relationship because it doesn't suit their agenda.

By all means don't have a relationship, but don't bullshit me that it's the "risk" factor.

I hear what you are saying, but in reality courts don't promote 50 50 childcare. That is a myth. I have seen good honourable men go through divorce and the solicitors actually say it is a floored system.

Imagine the situation, you own the 100k home, your partner puts nothing in and you marry and have 2 children. He then has an affair, you go to court, you get kicked out of your house, see your children once a fortnight, struggle financially for the next 14 years until the children are 18 and then have to sell the house and give your partner 60 per cent. You can't argue that is fair.so whether you like it or not it is a financial risk, that men are weighing up now. "

But that's not true. It isn't a myth. And if they are so good and honourable, then they wouldn't want their children to move out of the family home! If the men were the primary care givers then it would be natural for the woman to move out wouldnt it- but as this is rarely the case, courts tend to try and put the childrens' needs first.

Courts do promote 50/50 childcare Unless there is a record of abuse or drug dependency. So you are arguing from a position that doesn't exist any longer.

And most people buy a house together- your imaginary scenario is flawed- possibly by your own experience.

The real losers are the children. The real "winners" are the legal teams.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My son is priceless.

Whatever may happen in a relationship my child would have always come first.

He's an adult now, with his own life but he still does.

When our children become weaponised in any relationship failure then they are the ones who suffer most.

Is there anything we would ever not give up to protect them?

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By *irkydirkyMan
over a year ago

Stevenage

I’m single, never married, no kids.. absolutely having a smashing time and loving life, come join the underground movement lads, it’s fantastic

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

I find some peoples' sense of priority baffling.

Money and property seem incredibly important. You can't take it with you, you know.

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish


"A woman also looses in a divorce. There are no winners, only the solicitors.

Everyone loses, but I would prefer to be in a woman's shoes, if their are children involved, every day of the week. You will get 60 percent of the property and 80 percent of time with the children.

It's one area where equality has gone too far the other way.

"

I sure as hell never got 60% of anything!

And let’s be honest - not all dads would actually want custody of the kids in a break-up situation! It’s all some dads can do to reliably see their kids every couple of weeks!

As any full time (or rather - 80%) single mum or dad will tell you - it’s bloody hard work and a pretty thankless task - and precious few of us are rolling in money!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some women are happy to be free and see the back of their ex, wanting NOTHING from them.

Some want what is the easiest for everyone

Some will exchange their "luxury" to a difficult life financially, but still only ask for the bare minimum to support the kids, so that the father can still do the holidays etc with the children. They will do everything they can to make sure the father and kids have epic times when they're together, even if it means she goes without.

Some are just money grabbing

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone loses, but I would prefer to be in a woman's shoes, if their are children involved, every day of the week. You will get 60 percent of the property and 80 percent of time with the children.

It's one area where equality has gone too far the other way.

60% of the funds for 80% of the work? You DO realize that kids are a full time job and a half, and are bloody expensive???

Besides providing a roof over their heads, food, clothes and age appropriate toys and entertainment, there's the time expense of dr and dentist appointments, school meetings, play dates (oh joy, more kids!). Mum is also chauffeur, button and hole mender, cleaner, therapist, cook, nurse. She has no choice but to take time off work to stay home when kids are sick, and struggle emotionally seeing her kids suffering!

IF mothers were paid even 80% for all they do, no one could afford it. Yet we do it, and it's worth it.

Maybe I've grown up and raised my kids in old fashioned communities, but I have yet to see more than 1 or 2 men EVER who put that amount of effort into their kids.

POOR fathers who have to pay 60% of joint assets after divorce."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, I must be living in a parallel universe. Your idea of divorce certainly doesn't resemble my experience!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above. "

No idea what you're talking about so.

What mens rights movement?

What part of it is underground?

What do you mean by going their own way? Having kids and f'ing off to leave the woman to look after them, men have been getting better and better at that since the 50s with no men's rights underground movement.

In general men really don't need much help with anything post divorce short of in some, rare, cases child access.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above.

No idea what you're talking about so.

What mens rights movement?

What part of it is underground?

What do you mean by going their own way? Having kids and f'ing off to leave the woman to look after them, men have been getting better and better at that since the 50s with no men's rights underground movement.

In general men really don't need much help with anything post divorce short of in some, rare, cases child access. "

It is one of the negative effects of the increased infantalism of society, this childlike self-centeredness. It is not exclusive to men, but the OP is one of the ways it manifests itself in males.

(Not to say infantalism doesn't habe some benefits - People don't have to go out and earn to support their family at 14 anymore, and this is a good thing)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A woman also looses in a divorce. There are no winners, only the solicitors.

Everyone loses, but I would prefer to be in a woman's shoes, if their are children involved, every day of the week. You will get 60 percent of the property and 80 percent of time with the children.

It's one area where equality has gone too far the other way.

"

Weird neither of my divorces went even slightly like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above.

I take issue with the basis for this argument.

"Quite a risk for a man..."

A greater risk for a woman.

We risk dying in childbirth- show me how a man can do that.

We consistently have a lower income and career prospects become limited by being the primary care giver. Long term poor financial outcome that a man doesn't.

He only becomes a part time dad if he wants to, courts promote 50/50 parental access- not a greater "risk" then in reality.

It's a cop out. Promoted by people who don't want to be open to a relationship because it doesn't suit their agenda.

By all means don't have a relationship, but don't bullshit me that it's the "risk" factor.

I hear what you are saying, but in reality courts don't promote 50 50 childcare. That is a myth. I have seen good honourable men go through divorce and the solicitors actually say it is a floored system.

Imagine the situation, you own the 100k home, your partner puts nothing in and you marry and have 2 children. He then has an affair, you go to court, you get kicked out of your house, see your children once a fortnight, struggle financially for the next 14 years until the children are 18 and then have to sell the house and give your partner 60 per cent. You can't argue that is fair.so whether you like it or not it is a financial risk, that men are weighing up now. "

Perfectly fair, he broke the marriage and she took care of the kids. What a sad odd outlook on life.

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury


"There is a underground movement in men's rights, I have seen on YouTube about men going their own way. Basically some men, have decided that being involved in a relationship with a woman is too risky e.g a man has a divorce and loses 60 per cent of everything he owns, has to pay child maintenance and then becomes a part time dad. Quite a risk for a man compared to a woman.

Interested in your thoughts and if their will be an increase in men on these sites, due to the above. "

Every divorce is different, I got nothing out of mine and became homeless with two children under 7 and never received any child maintenance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m single, never married, no kids.. absolutely having a smashing time and loving life, come join the underground movement lads, it’s fantastic "
Same and it’s fecking amazing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The financial settlements laws surrounding divorce are balanced and fair in my experience. Age, length of time together, children and the wealth you have jointly accumulated are the factors. Who was in the wrong and emotion doesn't come into it. Some people lose sight of this and let bitterness cloud their opinions.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"I’m single, never married, no kids.. absolutely having a smashing time and loving life, come join the underground movement lads, it’s fantastic Same and it’s fecking amazing "

For balance;

I'm divorced with a child who I see regularly. I don't regret anything about it, or lifes struggles before, during or after my marriage.

"Single guy with reasonable job does whatever he wants" sounds like quite a boring novel....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Interesting, that from the general tone, there is a lack of empathy and understanding to why men are going their own way. The impact on children not having a father involved except at weekends.

It feels as the general view is it is all men's fault, I respect women too much to let them paint themselves as weak victims, where both sexes can be equally bad.

Thanks for the comments and lively debate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Interesting, that from the general tone, there is a lack of empathy and understanding to why men are going their own way. The impact on children not having a father involved except at weekends.

It feels as the general view is it is all men's fault, I respect women too much to let them paint themselves as weak victims, where both sexes can be equally bad.

Thanks for the comments and lively debate.

"

I don't think that was the general tone at all. The general tone was most people disagreed with you and know nothing about a men's rights movement under ground, overground or cockwombling free.

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