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"I only tend to go to smaller gigs, I don't like big crowds. I generally pay around £20. I guess it helps that the music I am into and the people I want to see generally don't do huge gigs or arenas. " I much prefer a smaller venue, better atmosphere | |||
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"How much music do you buy? Tour tickets and merchandise are pretty much the only way to make money in the music industry now. Granted, the old boys get a steady trickle in from the royalties but for new bands writing new music they rely on fractions of a percent from streaming services. Unless you strike lucky with an advert or a film score you’re fucked. Try and see as many acts live as you can and as many differnt types of music. Local gigs are usually less than a tenner. I went to stones over the summer for £100. Think of the cost of not going, how would you have felt if you’d have woken up the day after the gig you missed to find out one had died and you missed your last ever chance." I’m on catch up at the moment because so many of the bands I really would have like to have seen are now defunct because of members dying or are too old now to gig. I should have seen them years ago. However I’m now of the view that if the opportunity to see a band I like is there, then within reason, the expense is worth it. | |||
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"I only tend to go to smaller gigs, I don't like big crowds. I generally pay around £20. I guess it helps that the music I am into and the people I want to see generally don't do huge gigs or arenas. I much prefer a smaller venue, better atmosphere" Very much agree. I'm off to a tiny venue tonight and it's about £17 including booking fees. Intimate gigs feel a bit more special. | |||
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"I only tend to go to smaller gigs, I don't like big crowds. I generally pay around £20. I guess it helps that the music I am into and the people I want to see generally don't do huge gigs or arenas. I much prefer a smaller venue, better atmosphere Very much agree. I'm off to a tiny venue tonight and it's about £17 including booking fees. Intimate gigs feel a bit more special." I've seen Foy Vance four times, each time in a quite small venue. He is so good live, but part of the charm is his interaction with the audience. | |||
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"I paid £27.50 for Heaven 17 tickets (I saw them last Friday) but then spent another £50 on merchandise " We know | |||
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"I only tend to go to smaller gigs, I don't like big crowds. I generally pay around £20. I guess it helps that the music I am into and the people I want to see generally don't do huge gigs or arenas. I much prefer a smaller venue, better atmosphere" Except for that one pillock who sings along too loud | |||
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"How much music do you buy? Tour tickets and merchandise are pretty much the only way to make money in the music industry now. Granted, the old boys get a steady trickle in from the royalties but for new bands writing new music they rely on fractions of a percent from streaming services. Unless you strike lucky with an advert or a film score you’re fucked. Try and see as many acts live as you can and as many differnt types of music. Local gigs are usually less than a tenner. I went to stones over the summer for £100. Think of the cost of not going, how would you have felt if you’d have woken up the day after the gig you missed to find out one had died and you missed your last ever chance." ^^^^ Primary douce of income in a downloading world. Me, I like the feel of hard copy, CD or whatever, so pay doubly so. Some venues (usually smaller) are better, but mechandising is still steep, and don't get me started about handling/shipping fop off fees.... | |||
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"I only tend to go to smaller gigs, I don't like big crowds. I generally pay around £20. I guess it helps that the music I am into and the people I want to see generally don't do huge gigs or arenas. I much prefer a smaller venue, better atmosphere Except for that one pillock who sings along too loud " Errrmmmm... yeah... so hate THAT guy... | |||
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"I only tend to go to smaller gigs, I don't like big crowds. I generally pay around £20. I guess it helps that the music I am into and the people I want to see generally don't do huge gigs or arenas. I much prefer a smaller venue, better atmosphere Except for that one pillock who sings along too loud Errrmmmm... yeah... so hate THAT guy... " | |||
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"I only tend to go to smaller gigs, I don't like big crowds. I generally pay around £20. I guess it helps that the music I am into and the people I want to see generally don't do huge gigs or arenas. " | |||
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"In the last few years I haven't minded paying daft money to see big bands like those I mentioned further up as they are unlikely to tour for much longer and bands like the Rolling Stones and AC/DC are not going to be repeated. I wouldn't expect to pay more than £40 for a young band who tour constantly though." | |||
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"Seem to be going up and up. Culture Club are touring again and the cheapest ticket £56 , God knows how much the Spice Girls are charging they were on tv last week and were utter shite. Wish the days of gigs with just a 1000 or less crowds for less than £20 would come back. No wonder all these old bands are coming back to tour " My sister saw culture club last week in Nottingham for free! She got an email from a website that she’s registered with offering free tickets for the first 500 people to respond. We saw guns n roses via the same site a few years ago too. When Bon Jovi announced their tour I looked at getting tickets for th Ricoh arena gig. When I saw that it would cost £120 each I decided I didn’t like them that much after all | |||
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"Seem to be going up and up. Culture Club are touring again and the cheapest ticket £56 , God knows how much the Spice Girls are charging they were on tv last week and were utter shite. Wish the days of gigs with just a 1000 or less crowds for less than £20 would come back. No wonder all these old bands are coming back to tour " I used to think concert prices where expensive until I worked a Beyonce concert and saw what it took to set up the stage etc. So much work and effort goes into these concerts. It took 5 days to set up for Beyonce... it's amazing to see what the tech guys do. | |||
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"Seem to be going up and up. Culture Club are touring again and the cheapest ticket £56 , God knows how much the Spice Girls are charging they were on tv last week and were utter shite. Wish the days of gigs with just a 1000 or less crowds for less than £20 would come back. No wonder all these old bands are coming back to tour My sister saw culture club last week in Nottingham for free! She got an email from a website that she’s registered with offering free tickets for the first 500 people to respond. We saw guns n roses via the same site a few years ago too. When Bon Jovi announced their tour I looked at getting tickets for th Ricoh arena gig. When I saw that it would cost £120 each I decided I didn’t like them that much after all " It wasn't entirely free - I had to pay a £3 booking fee I've had tickets for loads of events over the years. Cinema screenings, musicals, concerts, Shakespeare plays, circus etc. All either free or with a small booking fee. I would love to be able to afford to go to concerts but the prices are out of reach for me because I have a very limited income due to being a carer. Being offered freebies this way means I get to enjoy myself occasionally | |||
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"You can thank the Advent of digital music downloads for this!" You can also thank the fact that most people now seem to expect 'a show'- not just a band playing some tunes. They want a fantastic lightshow and amazing sound. They want to go to an arena or stadium gig and to be able to see the people on stage wherever they are in the venue. They also expect to be able to go home at the end of the night in one piece. All that technology (sound/lighting/video/set) costs hundreds of thousands and even seven figures in the case of some of the video walls and staging systems i've seen. The cost of shipping, building and crewing is also pretty huge- not to mention design, R&D, backroom staff, insurances etc Getting you through the show safe and sound also takes huge effort and resources from security teams- from making sure some d*unken numpty doesn't go round punching people to making sure you're not a victim of terrorism. The average tennancy duration of a large show from load in to load out is around 19 hours- most of these will use 40-400 people depending on the time of day (obviously increasing to the higher figure for the 6ish hours a venue is open)- you'll be enjoying the luxury of at least a minimum wage- so will they, people aren't cheap! The larger venues run at around 40-50% tennancy average- so they also need to make sure they have the cashflow year round through dark days, to keep operating for that one night a year your favourite band turns up...and everyone involved wants to be paid/make a profit or it just won't happen. Music isn't actully the biggest cost/profit ratio earner- comedy is the real money maker as the overheads are significantly reduced but the tickets for bigger acts aren't. If you really want to see bands for under £20, stick to the small venues, up and coming bands or go find your local buskers and drop them a couple of quid. If you want to see more than a few sticks of truss and some par cans, or not hear sound out of a mid range PA system that hasn't been acoustically mapped to the venue by and expert sound engineer given the best equipment and time to set up to the best ability, or not spend half the gig stood behind the 6ft4 bloke, catching the occasional glimpse of the band on stage, not a giant screen- pay what it costs to put on such a show...and finally, if you're happy to download or stream music for free- shut the fuck up whinging as you're effectively stealing money off the same bands you're complaining about | |||
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"I only tend to go to smaller gigs, I don't like big crowds. I generally pay around £20. I guess it helps that the music I am into and the people I want to see generally don't do huge gigs or arenas. I much prefer a smaller venue, better atmosphere Except for that one pillock who sings along too loud " ...or even worse, the individuals who constantly chatter throughout the performance. Grrrrrrrr. | |||
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"top californian band 'Here Lies Man' played in cardiff over the weekend for £11 .... such a bargain ... and they allow free acces to their music ... i bought the vinyl album as a result" here's the links for both albums https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoLRS13M378 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyh-V_icbA8 | |||
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"I paid £27.50 for Heaven 17 tickets (I saw them last Friday) but then spent another £50 on merchandise We know " | |||
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"You can thank the Advent of digital music downloads for this! You can also thank the fact that most people now seem to expect 'a show'- not just a band playing some tunes. They want a fantastic lightshow and amazing sound. They want to go to an arena or stadium gig and to be able to see the people on stage wherever they are in the venue. They also expect to be able to go home at the end of the night in one piece. All that technology (sound/lighting/video/set) costs hundreds of thousands and even seven figures in the case of some of the video walls and staging systems i've seen. The cost of shipping, building and crewing is also pretty huge- not to mention design, R&D, backroom staff, insurances etc Getting you through the show safe and sound also takes huge effort and resources from security teams- from making sure some d*unken numpty doesn't go round punching people to making sure you're not a victim of terrorism. The average tennancy duration of a large show from load in to load out is around 19 hours- most of these will use 40-400 people depending on the time of day (obviously increasing to the higher figure for the 6ish hours a venue is open)- you'll be enjoying the luxury of at least a minimum wage- so will they, people aren't cheap! The larger venues run at around 40-50% tennancy average- so they also need to make sure they have the cashflow year round through dark days, to keep operating for that one night a year your favourite band turns up...and everyone involved wants to be paid/make a profit or it just won't happen. Music isn't actully the biggest cost/profit ratio earner- comedy is the real money maker as the overheads are significantly reduced but the tickets for bigger acts aren't. If you really want to see bands for under £20, stick to the small venues, up and coming bands or go find your local buskers and drop them a couple of quid. If you want to see more than a few sticks of truss and some par cans, or not hear sound out of a mid range PA system that hasn't been acoustically mapped to the venue by and expert sound engineer given the best equipment and time to set up to the best ability, or not spend half the gig stood behind the 6ft4 bloke, catching the occasional glimpse of the band on stage, not a giant screen- pay what it costs to put on such a show...and finally, if you're happy to download or stream music for free- shut the fuck up whinging as you're effectively stealing money off the same bands you're complaining about " In a nutshell....this | |||
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"Wish the days of gigs with just a 1000 or less crowds for less than £20 would come back. " Tunbridge Wells Forum, 250 capacity with sweat running down the walls, tickets from £8 for a band you've never heard of (and probably won't ever again) to £15 for someone who's had a mention on NME or Kerrang. Admittedly this isn't much help to you up in the republic of Geordieland but at least you've got the football to look forward too | |||
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