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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Has anyone watched panorama about the universal credit crisis and how its effecting the people who are on it from single parent’s and couples and the housing rent in how its paid? do you think it should be scraped?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just had a convo with a mate who was telling me about this...and yes I do after hearing about some of the poor buggers who were on this show.

It's inhumane what is happening to them but no doubt I'll hear from people who think it's a fair system..

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By *otBunsHunWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"Has anyone watched panorama about the universal credit crisis and how its effecting the people who are on it from single parent’s and couples and the housing rent in how its paid? do you think it should be scraped? "
single parent here on UC...I've never worked as hard to be so skint....

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

The concept of 6 benefits rolled into one is good the reality is not so good.

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

Not watched it but yeah they're taking the piss with this UC.

My friend has just been taken off ESA and put on UC and has no money now, she's using a food bank for the next few weeks at leas while waiting on crappy payments.

Funny thing is she's just been diagnosed with diabetes and has ulcers in her feet so can't walk and has been moved to this benefit for some reason.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

A lady at work is a single mum of a couple of kids and holds down two jobs, I find it hard with one job and no kids. She is now going £200 a month worse of.

I feel for her, she's clever, good at her job and well organised. She was almost in tears today explaining her situation. She spent the weekend trying to rearrange her budget which is difficult when it's all used and you're going to get less.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then you have the 60+s who are not computer savvy...it this is the only way they will correspond with then...no phone calls allowed...it just shows the contempt they thing of the unfortunate. ...

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I think it should be suspended from further expansion across the UK as a minimum, if not scrapped. My gut feel is that Its so fundamentally wrong that it should go. People put into desperate poverty, their homes at risk and lost, needing to borrow money. And it's a benefits cut for many people - who have already suffered benefit freezes and cuts for years. This alone should be the conservative governments 2018 Poll Tax that shames them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think UC is a good system. Just stop paying claimants housing benefit directly. Pay it straight to landlord.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

"I think UC is a good system. Just stop paying claimants housing benefit directly. Pay it straight to landlord. "
. From what the programme said and what I know the housing benefit part of UC is causing the biggest problems so yes paying it straight to the landlord or even going back to what was before UC and having to make a separate claim would be better after all I am sure no one wants to see someone made homeless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think UC is a good system. Just stop paying claimants housing benefit directly. Pay it straight to landlord. . From what the programme said and what I know the housing benefit part of UC is causing the biggest problems so yes paying it straight to the landlord or even going back to what was before UC and having to make a separate claim would be better after all I am sure no one wants to see someone made homeless "

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

And there’s lays one of the biggest problems with uc. ..people can get sanctions for very dubious reasons...air in being 10 minutes late..which could get Thier benefits withdrawn for weeks of even months..but they still got there rent paid as why would we want people homeless...but under uc they stop paying the rent too! It's a totally out of date system before it arrives fully."
. It’s suppose to be the way forward Ian Duncan Smith brainchild but unless you are confident on using a computer to check on a daily basis you will struggle with it.Throw in language issues , mental health issues , no access to a PC or smartphone although you can go into a jobcentre and use one of their computers could lead to all sorts of difficulties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

Robbing the poor again .

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By *ugs and JunkCouple
over a year ago

Bellshill

I worked for DWP for 13 years and was there when they started to roll out UC. It was pointed out by the staff actually doing the job that it wouldn’t work and that it would be detrimental to claimants but as with everything in DWP the decisions are never made by anyone with knowledge of the benefit system. The union also tried to fight bringing it in but were blocked by parliament.

It’s purely a cost cutting scheme made by the very people who claim thousands a month in expenses who wouldn’t know what it was like to actually have to budget your money.

Mrs

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

"I worked for DWP for 13 years and was there when they started to roll out UC. It was pointed out by the staff actually doing the job that it wouldn’t work and that it would be detrimental to claimants but as with everything in DWP the decisions are never made by anyone with knowledge of the benefit system. The union also tried to fight bringing it in but were blocked by parliament.

It’s purely a cost cutting scheme made by the very people who claim thousands a month in expenses who wouldn’t know what it was like to actually have to budget your money.

Mrs"
. As I said in a earlier post the concept is good of 6 benefits rolled into one but unfortunately it’s not a one size fits all.In my area UC full service rolled out last year and most of the claimants are not happy with it.I have worked for DWP and previous names for 18 years and I see the problems it’s causing first hand with the most vulnerable claimants.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

the worst thing about universal credit is you got to have a computer to keep checking. i feel sorry for those who do not know how to use one and those who are vulnerable.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

"the worst thing about universal credit is you got to have a computer to keep checking. i feel sorry for those who do not know how to use one and those who are vulnerable.

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. Unfortunately yes you have to be checking it everyday or every other day and doing what is in your to do list other wise problems come up.Many claimants forget there username and password so I always help them reset them and update their to do list

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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

Torries are great aren't they -bless em

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

How many people are going to be homeless by Xmas due to most landlord not taking on people on universal credit?

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By *ngelina4uWoman
over a year ago

Camberley/Middleton

"How many people are going to be homeless by Xmas due to most landlord not taking on people on universal credit?"

So should landlords take them on anyway?

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By *xMFM3sumsxxWoman
over a year ago

SouthWest Lancashire

"How many people are going to be homeless by Xmas due to most landlord not taking on people on universal credit?"

A lot of landlords ask for a guarantor if people are on benefits.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"How many people are going to be homeless by Xmas due to most landlord not taking on people on universal credit?

So should landlords take them on anyway? "
i do not know i just saying it because most families on uc depend on it to pay it but seem they not willing since the change.

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By *upremexMan
over a year ago

liverpool. huyton. near yewtree

It's a good idea to put them all together but what a mess this government has made of it all its unbelievable" and now should be stopped and sorted out and then roll it out, it's a bloody disgrace at the moment and also shows who is paying the heavy cost of this (let's save money and hit the poor hard and fast). I work and have seen lots of people hit so hard.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It wasn't designed to help people as a safely net but to make it easier to pay them less, whilst controlling them much more. It's a sociopaths dream, when you see the human suffering that's being caused, whilst telling gullible voters that it's working and for their own and everyone's benefit. It follows on from the hatred they stoked by demonizing the disabled and benefits claimants. Divide and conquer - some sheep are happy to be mind-controlled.

Too many of the basic aspects of this system are completely wrong - it's not fit for purpose

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