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"Some sick minds about to come up with something like that. " I know, i was marvelling at the fact that this would come up as a topic for debate on esteemed Radio 4 too. | |||
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"Have a watch of a film called 'Circle' Although it's not about achieving world peace by torturing a child, it does make you question how you would react in a life or death situation where a child is also involved..... self preservation? It's a good watch and makes you question yourself Q x" I'll keep an eye out for it. If people can get over their initial shock i think it makes for an interesting debate. Of course every sane person would say they would never do such a thing but if it really comes down to the crunch who knows. After all, there are plenty of people in this world who've done far worse for far less gain. | |||
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"No and it doesn’t seem to be a lighthearted question " Agree .... to me, light hearted would be along the lines of, "why do people drive to the gym to go on a treadmill" | |||
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"No and it doesn’t seem to be a lighthearted question Agree .... to me, light hearted would be along the lines of, "why do people drive to the gym to go on a treadmill"" It makes a change from the perennial 'kiss, fuck, avoid' threads. You can make it fun or you can join in with a serious post, it's up to you. | |||
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"No and it doesn’t seem to be a lighthearted question Agree .... to me, light hearted would be along the lines of, "why do people drive to the gym to go on a treadmill" It makes a change from the perennial 'kiss, fuck, avoid' threads. You can make it fun or you can join in with a serious post, it's up to you." Even Ghengis Khan would struggle to make child torturing fun... | |||
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"No and it doesn’t seem to be a lighthearted question Agree .... to me, light hearted would be along the lines of, "why do people drive to the gym to go on a treadmill" It makes a change from the perennial 'kiss, fuck, avoid' threads. You can make it fun or you can join in with a serious post, it's up to you. Even Ghengis Khan would struggle to make child torturing fun..." There's been a couple of good examples so far. | |||
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"Have a watch of a film called 'Circle' Although it's not about achieving world peace by torturing a child, it does make you question how you would react in a life or death situation where a child is also involved..... self preservation? It's a good watch and makes you question yourself Q x I'll keep an eye out for it. If people can get over their initial shock i think it makes for an interesting debate. Of course every sane person would say they would never do such a thing but if it really comes down to the crunch who knows. After all, there are plenty of people in this world who've done far worse for far less gain." Exactly, me and the hubby differed completely on how we would have been in the final moments of the film, it made for some interesting conversation afterwards lol | |||
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"Paradise is an unachievable ideal anyway. Save the child and dance in the flames of anarchy. " It's a hypothetical A variant on the large man and train or the your standing at a train junction on one track there are 100 adults the other one child you have to be proactive to save the 100 , You would obviously be guilty of killing the child if you change the direction but responsible for saving 100 however , how does your mind evaluate inaction , are you guilty of killing 100 or because it would just happen you have zero responsibility for their deaths ? | |||
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"Have a watch of a film called 'Circle' Although it's not about achieving world peace by torturing a child, it does make you question how you would react in a life or death situation where a child is also involved..... self preservation? It's a good watch and makes you question yourself Q x I'll keep an eye out for it. If people can get over their initial shock i think it makes for an interesting debate. Of course every sane person would say they would never do such a thing but if it really comes down to the crunch who knows. After all, there are plenty of people in this world who've done far worse for far less gain. Exactly, me and the hubby differed completely on how we would have been in the final moments of the film, it made for some interesting conversation afterwards lol" I think it might be on Netflix. Don't tell me what happens. | |||
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"Paradise is an unachievable ideal anyway. Save the child and dance in the flames of anarchy. It's a hypothetical A variant on the large man and train or the your standing at a train junction on one track there are 100 adults the other one child you have to be proactive to save the 100 , You would obviously be guilty of killing the child if you change the direction but responsible for saving 100 however , how does your mind evaluate inaction , are you guilty of killing 100 or because it would just happen you have zero responsibility for their deaths ? " That's a good point about zero responsibility or is just a means of alleviating guilt. So you opt for torture knowing that your own family will benefit but you know you can't live with the shameful deed. Do you go ahead with it knowing that ultimately it will bring about your own demise? Do you view this as a sacrifice worth making? And back to my original point, can a paradise brought about by such an act truly be viewed as a paradise at all? | |||
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"Paradise is an unachievable ideal anyway. Save the child and dance in the flames of anarchy. It's a hypothetical A variant on the large man and train or the your standing at a train junction on one track there are 100 adults the other one child you have to be proactive to save the 100 , You would obviously be guilty of killing the child if you change the direction but responsible for saving 100 however , how does your mind evaluate inaction , are you guilty of killing 100 or because it would just happen you have zero responsibility for their deaths ? That's a good point about zero responsibility or is just a means of alleviating guilt. So you opt for torture knowing that your own family will benefit but you know you can't live with the shameful deed. Do you go ahead with it knowing that ultimately it will bring about your own demise? Do you view this as a sacrifice worth making? And back to my original point, can a paradise brought about by such an act truly be viewed as a paradise at all?" They take all the trees and put them in a tree museum They take paradise and put up a parking lot... | |||
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"Have a watch of a film called 'Circle' Although it's not about achieving world peace by torturing a child, it does make you question how you would react in a life or death situation where a child is also involved..... self preservation? It's a good watch and makes you question yourself Q x I'll keep an eye out for it. If people can get over their initial shock i think it makes for an interesting debate. Of course every sane person would say they would never do such a thing but if it really comes down to the crunch who knows. After all, there are plenty of people in this world who've done far worse for far less gain. Exactly, me and the hubby differed completely on how we would have been in the final moments of the film, it made for some interesting conversation afterwards lol I think it might be on Netflix. Don't tell me what happens." It is, don't get confused with the film called The Circle. No spoilers from me, i think it's a thought provoking film | |||
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"We don't live in paradise. People, including children, are tortured every day, in all corners of the planet. Usually thoughtlessly, or through lack of care, sometimes deliberately. If I had the chance to stop all suffering by one act of cruelty, I would take it. And relentlessly quote Mr Spock 'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few' There you go. Lighthearted at the end. " A very utilitarian approach. Jeremy Bentham would be proud. | |||
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"A very utilitarian approach. Jeremy Bentham would be proud. " Not sure he would, but philosophy was never my strong suit. | |||
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"No fucking way... what sicko on BBC radio 4 thought this little gem out ..he or she should be sacked" It’s the bbc what do you expect | |||
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"Some sick minds about to come up with something like that. " Some sick minds at radio 4 | |||
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"I'd love to hear what a really dark question would be, if this is light hearted " Yeah don’t even go there, you’d be damaging your own mind | |||
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"OP.... did you manage to watch that film? " Not yet but it's definitely on my list of things to do. | |||
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