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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

This on Radio 4 today: if you could bring about paradise on earth but you had to torture one child to achieve it, would you?

Personally, i think if you had to sink to that level of depravity then it wouldn't be much of a paradise.

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By *bsolutebeginnersCouple
over a year ago

Planet Ork

No and it doesn’t seem to be a lighthearted question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No and it doesn’t seem to be a lighthearted question "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As in first world torture like taking away their iPhone?

How old would the child have to be? There is a little Justin beiber wannabe terrorising our village that I'd quite happily string up by his toenails for the greater good of the planet

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By *etite HandfulWoman
over a year ago

Chester

Some sick minds about to come up with something like that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some sick minds about to come up with something like that. "

I know, i was marvelling at the fact that this would come up as a topic for debate on esteemed Radio 4 too.

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By *tirluvMan
over a year ago

the right frame of mind -London

How is this any different to the Brexit vote then? Oh the fallacy of binary decisions like these!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only if it's tickle torture! And I'd stop before they wet themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have a watch of a film called 'Circle'

Although it's not about achieving world peace by torturing a child, it does make you question how you would react in a life or death situation where a child is also involved..... self preservation? It's a good watch and makes you question yourself

Q x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Have a watch of a film called 'Circle'

Although it's not about achieving world peace by torturing a child, it does make you question how you would react in a life or death situation where a child is also involved..... self preservation? It's a good watch and makes you question yourself

Q x"

I'll keep an eye out for it.

If people can get over their initial shock i think it makes for an interesting debate. Of course every sane person would say they would never do such a thing but if it really comes down to the crunch who knows.

After all, there are plenty of people in this world who've done far worse for far less gain.

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

Jeez Louise!If this is your light hearted question I wouldn't want to catch you in a bad day!

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts


"No and it doesn’t seem to be a lighthearted question "

Agree .... to me, light hearted would be along the lines of, "why do people drive to the gym to go on a treadmill"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No and it doesn’t seem to be a lighthearted question

Agree .... to me, light hearted would be along the lines of, "why do people drive to the gym to go on a treadmill""

It makes a change from the perennial 'kiss, fuck, avoid' threads.

You can make it fun or you can join in with a serious post, it's up to you.

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet


"No and it doesn’t seem to be a lighthearted question

Agree .... to me, light hearted would be along the lines of, "why do people drive to the gym to go on a treadmill"

It makes a change from the perennial 'kiss, fuck, avoid' threads.

You can make it fun or you can join in with a serious post, it's up to you."

Even Ghengis Khan would struggle to make child torturing fun...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Paradise is an unachievable ideal anyway. Save the child and dance in the flames of anarchy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No and it doesn’t seem to be a lighthearted question

Agree .... to me, light hearted would be along the lines of, "why do people drive to the gym to go on a treadmill"

It makes a change from the perennial 'kiss, fuck, avoid' threads.

You can make it fun or you can join in with a serious post, it's up to you.

Even Ghengis Khan would struggle to make child torturing fun..."

There's been a couple of good examples so far.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have a watch of a film called 'Circle'

Although it's not about achieving world peace by torturing a child, it does make you question how you would react in a life or death situation where a child is also involved..... self preservation? It's a good watch and makes you question yourself

Q x

I'll keep an eye out for it.

If people can get over their initial shock i think it makes for an interesting debate. Of course every sane person would say they would never do such a thing but if it really comes down to the crunch who knows.

After all, there are plenty of people in this world who've done far worse for far less gain."

Exactly, me and the hubby differed completely on how we would have been in the final moments of the film, it made for some interesting conversation afterwards lol

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Paradise is an unachievable ideal anyway. Save the child and dance in the flames of anarchy. "

It's a hypothetical

A variant on the large man and train or the your standing at a train junction on one track there are 100 adults the other one child you have to be proactive to save the 100 ,

You would obviously be guilty of killing the child if you change the direction but responsible for saving 100 however , how does your mind evaluate inaction , are you guilty of killing 100 or because it would just happen you have zero responsibility for their deaths ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Have a watch of a film called 'Circle'

Although it's not about achieving world peace by torturing a child, it does make you question how you would react in a life or death situation where a child is also involved..... self preservation? It's a good watch and makes you question yourself

Q x

I'll keep an eye out for it.

If people can get over their initial shock i think it makes for an interesting debate. Of course every sane person would say they would never do such a thing but if it really comes down to the crunch who knows.

After all, there are plenty of people in this world who've done far worse for far less gain.

Exactly, me and the hubby differed completely on how we would have been in the final moments of the film, it made for some interesting conversation afterwards lol"

I think it might be on Netflix. Don't tell me what happens.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some days it's just a bit to read a light hearted thread

Save the child every time. The world can take it's chances

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Paradise is an unachievable ideal anyway. Save the child and dance in the flames of anarchy.

It's a hypothetical

A variant on the large man and train or the your standing at a train junction on one track there are 100 adults the other one child you have to be proactive to save the 100 ,

You would obviously be guilty of killing the child if you change the direction but responsible for saving 100 however , how does your mind evaluate inaction , are you guilty of killing 100 or because it would just happen you have zero responsibility for their deaths ?

"

That's a good point about zero responsibility or is just a means of alleviating guilt.

So you opt for torture knowing that your own family will benefit but you know you can't live with the shameful deed. Do you go ahead with it knowing that ultimately it will bring about your own demise? Do you view this as a sacrifice worth making? And back to my original point, can a paradise brought about by such an act truly be viewed as a paradise at all?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Paradise is an unachievable ideal anyway. Save the child and dance in the flames of anarchy.

It's a hypothetical

A variant on the large man and train or the your standing at a train junction on one track there are 100 adults the other one child you have to be proactive to save the 100 ,

You would obviously be guilty of killing the child if you change the direction but responsible for saving 100 however , how does your mind evaluate inaction , are you guilty of killing 100 or because it would just happen you have zero responsibility for their deaths ?

That's a good point about zero responsibility or is just a means of alleviating guilt.

So you opt for torture knowing that your own family will benefit but you know you can't live with the shameful deed. Do you go ahead with it knowing that ultimately it will bring about your own demise? Do you view this as a sacrifice worth making? And back to my original point, can a paradise brought about by such an act truly be viewed as a paradise at all?"

They take all the trees and put them in a tree museum

They take paradise and put up a parking lot...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have a watch of a film called 'Circle'

Although it's not about achieving world peace by torturing a child, it does make you question how you would react in a life or death situation where a child is also involved..... self preservation? It's a good watch and makes you question yourself

Q x

I'll keep an eye out for it.

If people can get over their initial shock i think it makes for an interesting debate. Of course every sane person would say they would never do such a thing but if it really comes down to the crunch who knows.

After all, there are plenty of people in this world who've done far worse for far less gain.

Exactly, me and the hubby differed completely on how we would have been in the final moments of the film, it made for some interesting conversation afterwards lol

I think it might be on Netflix. Don't tell me what happens."

It is, don't get confused with the film called The Circle. No spoilers from me, i think it's a thought provoking film

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No no no no no!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Of course, the trickier part of the dilemma is this:

Someone, you have no idea who, has done the deed and you now find yourself living in paradise. Are you happy to go on living knowing how you got there thus condoning his actions?

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

Bloody hell! That’s a light hearted question?!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Bloody hell! That’s a light hearted question?!!

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By *apmanMan
over a year ago

Holmfirth

We don't live in paradise.

People, including children, are tortured every day, in all corners of the planet.

Usually thoughtlessly, or through lack of care, sometimes deliberately.

If I had the chance to stop all suffering by one act of cruelty, I would take it.

And relentlessly quote Mr Spock 'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few'

There you go. Lighthearted at the end.

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place


"We don't live in paradise.

People, including children, are tortured every day, in all corners of the planet.

Usually thoughtlessly, or through lack of care, sometimes deliberately.

If I had the chance to stop all suffering by one act of cruelty, I would take it.

And relentlessly quote Mr Spock 'The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few'

There you go. Lighthearted at the end.

"

A very utilitarian approach. Jeremy Bentham would be proud.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Depends what the biy has done to me if he attacked one if my kids happily if inocent fuck the lotif ya were screwed

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By *apmanMan
over a year ago

Holmfirth


"A very utilitarian approach. Jeremy Bentham would be proud.

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Not sure he would, but philosophy was never my strong suit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP.... did you manage to watch that film?

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

That’s so human, we titre children every day just seeking victories in pointless wars, I hate to say it but we humans could never achieve paradise!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was there an option to torture more children for extra paradiseness?

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

No fucking way... what sicko on BBC radio 4 thought this little gem out ..he or she should be sacked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd love to hear what a really dark question would be, if this is light hearted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No fucking way... what sicko on BBC radio 4 thought this little gem out ..he or she should be sacked"

It’s the bbc what do you expect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some sick minds about to come up with something like that. "

Some sick minds at radio 4

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd love to hear what a really dark question would be, if this is light hearted "

Yeah don’t even go there, you’d be damaging your own mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't we torture a few politicians instead? They are very child like and I am very creative.

Hee hee

Xxx

(I know....that was naughty)

Nessa

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"OP.... did you manage to watch that film? "

Not yet but it's definitely on my list of things to do.

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By *entileschiWoman
over a year ago

Norwich

I couldn't live with myself if I had to torture anyone to create paradise.

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